Loving Our Catholic Neighbors with Dr. James White - Night 1

April 26, 2024

[@jimnewl]

We Catholics have the living Christ and we have true peace with God. We also understand perfectly well the difference between the true Gospel and the gospel that you preach. It is you who require our help and charity and not the other way around.

[@ogmakefirefiregood]

That's neat. What is the Gospel? How do I get eternal life?

[@chrslrpg]

​@@ogmakefirefiregoodChrist himself warns " MANY WILL COME IN MY NAME ....WILL LEAD MANY ASTRAY". please ask your priest whether he is the Christ, pls ask him what is called in his ordination,- he is called "Alterchrstus" so basically you have thousands of christ. Ain't that false gospel? False teaching? Pls tell me what happened in history of Roman Catholic inquisition. That history wasn't very Chris like.

[@joelc-gc1hq]

No sir ,we require nothing from those who follow a fallen son of Adam who excepts the title holy father.you catholics with your rosary is clear vain repetition which mathew 6:7 warns against. Nothing is apostalic with your church, Peter was married but your pedophile papacy forbids it. Smh

[@borneandayak6725]

Viva Cristo Rey 😊😊😊

[@ogmakefirefiregood]

@@chrslrpg um... I don't have a priest. But hey, thanks.

[@borneandayak6725]

Love you too all Protestant brothers and sisters in Christ. We hope you all will in communion with the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church in the future...amen 😊😊😊

[@bersules8]

This has nothing to do with christian charity or ecumenical work. This is: "YOU IDIOTS ARE REALLY LETTING ME DOWN! WHY CAN'T YOU BE MORE LIKE ME? IT'S YOUR FAULT ALL THESE PROTESTANTS ARE BECOMING CATHOLIC!"

[@EricAlHarb]

The One, Holy, Catholic and Orthodox Apostolic Church. Amen!

[@timboslice980]

I just converted last year! Ive never felt closer to christ and more welcomed. It truly feels like a family! I listened to james white, john macarthur, doug wilson, and RC for 10 years. Believed everything they said about rome. Finding NONE of that was true was one of the top factors in my conversion. Watch the conversion story of his sister to the church and youll see why he has so much animosity for us.

[@annb9029]

Is that on line

[@timboslice980]

@@annb9029 Yes! Type in Patty Bonds baptist who became catholic. Its on the coming home network

[@aadschram5877]

@@annb9029 Yes, see the Journey Home program episode with Patty Bonds interviewed by Marcus Grodi.

[@bersules8]

NOV JAN FEB Previous capture 19 Next capture 2011 2012 2013 About this capture Abba's Little Girl HomeMy ConversionOut of DarknessTestimoniesJustification To the one from whom much was despoiled and plundered, the gaze of God goes most directly, and the holiest help He gives. ~Marie Hosdil~ Out of Darkness Out of Darkness - Rough Draft Chapter One - The Darkness I can still feel it if I close my eyes and allow my mind to drift back to my little room upstairs in our farm house. I can still feel the collision of mixed emotions that seized my heart and soul all at once. I remember how hard it was to breathe and how I felt paralyzed inside and couldn’t respond in accord with the violent emotions that were literally tearing my soul apart He was my daddy, my Pastor, that man who all the people in our church and our neighborhood held in high esteem. He was the husband my mother spoke of with respect and reverence. He was the man who adored me and treated me like a princess. Now he was doing things that every fiber of my being knew was wrong; yet he was telling me it was right and natural. He was invading my body and my soul and yet I could not say a word or raise my hard to push him away. I felt powerless. My mind was screaming “NO” while my body submitted to his wishes I also remember looking at my mother and thinking, “Please, stop him. Protect me from him. Tell him no!” But even though I could tell she was not in full agreement with what he was doing, and though I know he hid most of what he did from her, she never refused to give him full reign. She stepped aside and let him destroy me. She chose loyalty to him over me

[@michellecheriekjv4115]

Jesus wasn't enough? You needed something more? Like What?

[@leslieebert7656]

Twenty-five minutes in, and not one word about loving one's neighbor. So far it's all James White loving the sound of his voice. I've rarely heard so much arrogance, mockery, and condescension from a so-called pastor. Keep it up, Dr White -- you're adding to the numbers of us Catholics.

[@douglasmcnay644]

Ad hominem attacks don't invalidate the truth of what he is teaching. It was true before he was born and will be true long after he, you, and all the rest of us are no longer on this earth. It is true because it is God's word, pure and undefiled by the traditions of men, which sadly cannot be said of Roman Catholicism.

[@koraegis]

If you follow catholic theology you’ll end up in hell. #bible

[@josephmeyer7796]

Where does the Bible charge that Sola Scriptura is the one and only infallible teaching? I would charge that there is more proof of the Bible teaching that there is more than one infallible teaching source that we should follow. White has never and will never be able to demonstrate that Sola Scriptura can stand up to it's own argument. It is simply not in the Bible. ​ @@koraegis

[@goatsnstangs]

Truth will hurt most unbelievers.

[@goatsnstangs]

​@@koraegis 100% correct

[@SignumMagnificumChristi]

After watching the 2 debates, I can say that this is the perfect speech to persuade again an audience that saw you loose 2 debates right at their church.

[@patriotexx]

As a Catholic I am so sick of Protestants misrepresenting my faith and then critique their own falsehoods, 500 years is enough. The vast majority of Christians believe in Baptism (not just faith), a vast majority venerate the saints, a vast majority believe we can sin yet are still saved if we repent as the Lords prayer says, a vast majority also believe in their church traditions. Stop bashing on the majority of Christians use the energy to save poor lost souls.

[@thebanneredmare9190]

That is what we are trying to do, reach lost souls

[@ChristisLord2023]

So, by your argument, if we meet others who are confused about scripture we shouldn't try to correct it because others could have the same problem. Basically what you said is "Stop bashing Catholics because some of you are srong too.".

[@patriotexx]

@@ChristisLord2023 That is not my argument, a huge majority of Christians have very similar beliefs as i said. Catholics, Orthodox, and many Protestants also. This preachers views are a minority and there seems to be a hatred towards other churches that disagree, which again are the vast majority of Christians. He even said there is a huge variety of views within the Catholic church or any other, instead of making the schism worse we should try to reconcile. The title is loving our Catholic neighbors, it should be bashing on the vast majority of Christians who hold similar different beliefs.

[@borneandayak6725]

Viva Cristo Rey 😊😊😊

[@Adam-ue2ig]

This is called ad populum fallacy...claiming something is true because of a majority or popular opinion.

[@Zenkai251]

Does James White not understand the difference between official Church teaching and pious theories and ideas? Just because a lot of people thought purgatory lasted a long time doesn't mean it was official teaching. Purgatory might go on a long time or it might not. We simply don't know. The Church hasn't officially taught one way or the other.

[@Jerome616]

He’s always eager to tell us what we believe it seems…

[@mac3441]

James White clearly understands very little about Catholicism, yet thinks himself an expert.

[@james43258]

A lot of love here. 😂

[@BryceCarmony]

What random protestant Church are we supposed to join?

[@thisisforgod868]

With over 35,000 Protestant denominations you certainly have soooo many options . Just pick the one that best suits your lifestyle and beliefs, and you have your custom made church . And if you aren’t pleased with it after some time , you are free to go to any other denominations. The sky is the limit.

[@joeypuvel1228]

Oh that’s easy just pick one and then test it against the scriptures. I hope you have time on your hands, lol.

[@sharondavidson7412]

Exactly.

[@patriotexx]

My converted from Methodist Baptist neighbor said he chose that one because it was the shortest drive and convenient, I asked him how he enjoyed the name and doctrinal changes that they did shortly after and he did not seem to care much. I am not sure how one can operate that way but many do. As a Catholic I feel closest to traditional Lutheran or Anglican churches, but they can vary wildly or change rapidly so its just a crap shoot.

[@justinpickup603]

Which sect of Roman Catholicism are we to join? Rad Trads? Sedevecantists? German liberal bishops? Charismatic Renewal? Etc.

[@leftfielder216]

This message is as focused and logical as his debate performance was.

[@distractionbeast778]

James White is just an insulting man. He is not ignorant, but stubborn. I pray that God soften his ego and heart so he can accept the Church.

[@SabbatarianCalvinist]

That’s right, instead of praying he accepts Christ, you pray he accepts the Church lol.

[@mooretristan719]

Yikes. I dont know that I heard a single word about love for neighbor here. Oh Blessed Mother, pray for this man your servant, that he may learn charity and be humbled into the Church of your Son.

[@koraegis]

Yeah truth sounds like hate to them who are in darkness. Watch it again. He is lovingly warning you that if you follow Roman catholic theology you’ll end up in hell. It’s a doctrine of man and demons.

[@dr.mofongo9001]

Calvinism: “Jesus might have died for you.” But they claim to have “peace with God”.

[@jeremynethercutt206]

Thank you Dr. White, God bless you brothers and sisters! May we reach the mission field and stand on the truth of Gods Word! May we be equipped and lead by the Holy Spirit, be a soul saver with the words of Jesus Christ, may God effectually call his sheep to himself by use of his means! Soli Deo Gloria!

[@Nolongeraslave]

​@@sonsofpolaris6102some comments are just so unreasonable they are annoying.

[@claytonhall989]

Catholic here and fifteen seconds in the talk is about sharing the gospel with Catholics which shows how little some Protestants understand Catholicism. By extension, I would also say Christianity, but I will stop there. The gospels are read from at EVERY. SINGLE. MASS.

[@sammiller8640]

Yeah but it’s always the same passages. I never see verse-by-verse expository preaching in catholic churches.

[@claytonhall989]

@@sammiller8640It isn’t. If a given Catholic never read the Bible and only attended mass on Sunday, they would go through the entire Bible within 3 years.

[@patriotexx]

The Catholic church has a much deeper and thorough understanding of scripture. Protestant churches have a much more superficial and not as correlative of understanding or interpretation that can wildly vary from church to church. With that said it does not always translate to parishioners, a Protestant might often know scripture chapter and verse, but might have a very superficial knowledge of how it correlates to the Old/New Testament or sacraments.

[@gto2111]

@@sammiller8640 That's a lie, its not the same passage. Different Psalm, different NT and OT passages. Since you go verse by verse, why do you lie? The devil is a liar. Why are you following your father, the father of lies?

[@gto2111]

@@sammiller8640 I used to go to a presbyterian church. They do verse by verse. And they still misinterpret the bible on many different topic. Are you Baptist?

[@Jerome616]

Gotta love Calvinists. He actually accused a majority of Protestants of supporting the Papacy…. They look at everyone else with suspicion. Wild 54:00

[@Jerome616]

Also, it’s completely nonsensical to keep telling Catholics the mass does not perfect you, thus it is not legitimate. Excuse me James but, are you without sin ? Are you perfected and have ceased your sin nature? Pretty sure the answer is no. These arguments cut right back against you James.

[@koraegis]

@@Jerome616he is still in the flesh. He is being perfected. The righteousness of Christ is imputed to him. Justified. Now James has right standing before God.

[@Jerome616]

@@koraegis so when then does he become perfected, since he claimed that Christ’s sacrifice makes you perfect.?

[@koraegis]

@@Jerome616 The order of salvation. Predestination Election Calling Regeneration Faith Justification Adoption Sanctification Preservation Glorification

[@koraegis]

@@Jerome616 he did not claim that he was already perfect. But we do have right standing before God now since Christ's righteousness was imputed to us. Irresistible grace. The imputed righteousness of CHRIST upon His believers per 2 Cor 5:21. He made the one who did not know sin to be sin on our behalf, in order that we could become the righteousness of God in him. 2 Corinthians 5:21 LEB

[@TruthHasSpoken]

Questions for FBC. If you want to Evangelize Catholics, then the starting point is answering the questions below. - Show who in the first 1,500 years of Christianity interpreted scripture as you do, that the bread and wine in the bread of life discourse and Jesus saying THIS IS MY BODY, are symbolic or figurative only - Explain how could Christendom have error'd so fast, so universally on this point? - Explain why one should follow the fallible gospel of James White (and FBC) and not all of Christendom for those first 1,000 plus years? - Explain why one should not trust our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who said the Church is the Pillar of Truth, that the Church is the Bulwark of Truth, and that the Church is where the manifold wisdom of God is made known? - Explain how Jesus was undependable and that he lied when he said that he would lead his church to ALL truth? - Do you feel Jesus is not powerful enough nor faithful enough to mean what he said? - Admit that you are fallible - Admit that since you are fallible, you could be in error with your personal and fallible interpretation of scripture, and the Catholic Church right. 52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us *his flesh* to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you *eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood,* you have no life in you; 54 he who eats *my flesh* and drinks *my blood* has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For *my flesh* is food indeed, and *my blood* is drink indeed. 56 He who eats *my flesh* and drinks *my blood* abides in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who *eats me* will live because of me.

[@BryceCarmony]

Listened to the entire thing and didn't realize white was a once saved always saved free gracer

[@mac3441]

His entire presentation didn’t even address the topic. This was just a rant. Brother likes to hear himself talk. The trouble is all it does is demonstrate 1. How hateful he is, and 2. How very little he knows about Catholicism.

[@sharondavidson7412]

For as long as he's been doing this, I find it amusing that he still can't explain the Catholic faith accurately.

[@mac3441]

@@sharondavidson7412 it’s because he already thinks he’s an expert and therefore has nothing else to learn. He only relies on his own understanding. The trouble is pretty much everything he “knows” is wrong.

[@johnchung6777]

Amazing wow to think that Catholic’s don’t know or have the scriptures that’s insane,the Catholic Church has had the scriptures for over 2024yrs. I don’t understand when Protestants say that they have to teach Catholics the Bible and about Jesus that’s ridiculous and absurd who man what’s next

[@motorTranz]

"For, There is one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity-the man Christ Jesus,". I Timothy 2: 5 "For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast.". Ephesians 2: 8-9

[@justenhug632]

1 Timothy 2:5 is a bad verse to quote to go against praying to saints, etc. First off, you are taking half a sentence and creating a doctrine. That is not good hermeneutics. If you read the full sentence it says, “there is one mediator between God and man, that is Jesus Christ our lord, who gave himself for the ransom of all.” Now there are a couple ways you can interpret this. For the sake of longevity, I’ll provide two. One is straight forward, only Jesus can be our mediator and nobody else. But this is then dependent on semantics on how you define mediator. Does that mean, any prayer whatsoever? But this interpretation falls short because then scripture asks us to pray for one another. Thus meaning we are mediating between Jesus and the person we pray for. Second interpretation that is the most logical, is taking the full sentence instead of just 2:5, you include “who gave himself for the ransom of all” this we can interpret that there is ONLY ONE mediator who gave himself for the ransom of all. NOT that there is ONLy one mediator between god and man in general. Just that Jesus is the only mediator who gave himself for the ransom of all. Hope this helps clear that passage up.

[@petros-estin-petra-]

Prots keep skipping the first verse of the very same chapter of I Timothy. ‭[1] First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, *intercessions* , and thanksgivings be made for all people All your objections break down to that you don't believe in the resurrection. BuT tHeYrE DeAd

[@bersules8]

You got your azz whooped, JW.

[@rickbruno3975]

I am Catholic. I recently attended a non-denominational Christian church with two good friends. I ask in sincerity, when Jesus said, "This is my body, this is my blood, do this in memory of me." why do Protestants not conclude that He meant it? Or do they? Thanks.

[@therealAZLN]

>goes 0-2 against the based bearded cowboy man >preaches on John 6 and “loving your Catholic neighbor” >does not cook at all Glad to hear you’re recovering, James, but I’m not sure after taking back to back Ls that you are in any position to teach on John 6 and loving your Catholic neighbor.

[@ChristisLord2023]

Losses? I suppose if your standard is the opinions of men then Dr White lost, if the standard is what scripture actually says then those L's are on the other side.

[@therealAZLN]

@@ChristisLord2023 I mean, Mistuh White engaged in some shady debate tactics in the second debate. “I’m not gonna talk about infallibility, I’m not gonna talk about the assumption of Mary, I’m not gonna talk about Feducia Supplicans…” except he did, and Jimmy read Mistuh White like a book. When your arguments are so predictable (because Mistah White has been using them for 30 years and won’t shut up about old debates) that your opponent has prepared rebuttal slides in advance, you know your argument is poor.

[@ChristisLord2023]

@@therealAZLN if only we could see that kind of consistency with Rome's arguments. I suppose that since scripture hasn't changed the arguments don't need to. I have seen RCC apologists use 6 different arguments against his and still haven't seen any of them able to show any proof or accurately handle the text of scripture. About the only thing Jimmy said that was worth listening to was "Great news! You're not anathama anymore" and even that was in contrast to Rome's known position on these matters. I think I'll watch it again, I could use some comedy from Jimmy's used car salesman showmanship.

[@therealAZLN]

@@ChristisLord2023 Sure is a damn sight better than Mistuh White’s grumpy, smug, presumptuous, and seething hatred for anything Catholic-adjacent that makes him refuse to agree with something Pope Benedict XVI said that he would agree with. You know, just because Pope Benedict was Catholic. Jimmy was forthright, magnanimous, and charitable. Mistuh White was grumpy, rude (he interrupted Jimmy several times), dismissive, and dishonest. Hardly someone I’d want to represent me if I were a Protestant.

[@therealAZLN]

@@ChristisLord2023 have you ever considered then, that there’s at least 6 different ways to break down Mistuh White’s tired old arguments, and that you’re automatically dismissing them because you’ve already decided that there’s no possible way the Catholic position could ever be right?

[@younis9819]

As a Catholic, I have desired to reach out to Protestants for the sake of their soul.

[@joshuastelly9129]

Can anyone here point me to where he starts talking about loving your Catholic neighbor because he seems to just be debating again his same old topics. Thanks in advance.

[@matthewbroderick6287]

The false and fallible teachings of James White, have made me a stronger Catholic Christian, thank you James! Holy Scripture teaches we must cooperate with God's saving grace and repent and bear fruit and forgive others and love one another and keep the commandments and persevere to the end to be saved! James White says none of this is True. Holy Scripture teaches we shall each be held accountable for every careless word we have uttered and shall each be judged as we have judged others and we shall each be liable to judgment if angry with others and we shall each receive recompense for BOTH the good AND THE BAD we have done in the body, and we must all strive for that holiness without which no one shall see the Lord! James White says none of this is True! Praying for his conversion! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!

[@Wgaither1]

Please stop lying Matthew

[@matthewbroderick6287]

@Wgaither1 please provide evidence where I lied? You will need to provide this "evidence " where I lied to Jesus Christ on judgment day! You are in my prayers as you journey toward Truth! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!

[@Wgaither1]

@@matthewbroderick6287 The part where you say Protestants make you a stronger catholic. I don’t by it

[@matthewbroderick6287]

@Wgaither1 James White indeed has made me a stronger Catholic Christian, as the false and fallible teachings of James White that include faith ALONE, since Holy Scripture doesn't teach FAITH ALONE, for even if one has ALL FAITH, but does not LOVE, IT IS USELESS, for it is by WORKS and NOT BY FAITH ALONE that we are JUSTIFIED! You did bear false witness against me though! I forgive you! You are in my prayers as you journey toward Truth! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink!

[@Wgaither1]

@@matthewbroderick6287 you know very well the Protestant teaching on faith alone, doesn’t mean Protestants don’t love. Please stop misrepresenting what Protestants believe on faith alone. You are bearing false witness. As Jimmy Akin said stop quarreling over words

[@patquint3291]

The Reformation 500 Years Later:12 Things You Need to Know, Dr. Benjamin Wiker, 2017

[@jonnyy4088]

Searched 'nun burning hand'.I also remember 'padre pio' claiming to watch souls thank him on the way up from the grave.Where there's life,there's hope though unless they are reprobate.

[@dawidkozinski5945]

Oh the irony :D

[@The_noticing]

Bruh, does Catholic answers have bots the deploy to comment on videos associated with James White?

[@vaekkriinhart4347]

20:57 "Romans is dangerous" :) I still recall when I read Romans and how FREE it made me feel. What a book! Every Christian should familiarize themselves with it thoroughly. Don't listen to prevalent, armenian, watered down commentary on chapter 9; for when they attempt to make sense of it, they blatantly omit verses that contradict their traditions. They will attempt to steer it all back to YOU and what you must do. Read it for what it says, and let it speak for itself. It is so freeing to know GOD is in control! Be free!

[@EricAlHarb]

What do you mean?

[@WilliamNoelle]

Same propaganda and misinformation. I have decided to leave James White to God.

[@koraegis]

May the scales be removed from your eyes

[@DaedalusProject]

For someone who has talked to Catholics for so long, you’d think he’d aim his attacks at what we actually believe and not torch the series of straw men he fabricates.

[@thebanneredmare9190]

Thank you, Pastor James is always a blessing to me.

[@thisisforgod868]

And to many others. He is leading countless of us to the one, true church that Jesus himself founded more than 2,000 years ago - the Catholic Church.

[@bsg111987]

This man is filled with a demonic presence. We should pray for his deliverance and repentance.

[@DoDopapaJohn]

Protestantism is not biblical, apostolic, and christian.

[@Wgaither1]

Says who

[@DoDopapaJohn]

@@Wgaither1 you

[@Wgaither1]

@@DoDopapaJohn nope

[@DoDopapaJohn]

@@Wgaither1 we are both right

[@joshuasalcedo3630]

So I don't really have a dog in this hunt. I a humble servant of Yahusha Hamashiach my lord and Savior just seek his truth through the Holy spirit. One thing I noticed about the good doctor is his intellectual dishonesty. He references hebrews 10 , now if the good doctor would continue to the end of chapter 10 he would self defeat his purpose and statement. No my brother. Once saved NOT always saved. Yall listen to his hebrews reference then analyze his point.... then read on through the end of chapter 10 into verse 26-31 , Paul makes it extremely clear the good doctor is either mistaken or being intellectually dishonest, because a professor of theology and church history WOULD HAVE TO KNOW THIS. Yah bless you brothers and sisters in Christ, all praise and glory to aba YAH and his son Yahusha our Hamashiach. Amen

[@koraegis]

What a legendary exposition 🙂

[@joejones9694]

Never have I heard such ignorance presented with such arrogance. This is a steady stream of half truths designed to get this congregation worked up. I will pray tonight’s rosary for James White’s conversion to Christs one true church.

[@younis9819]

Damage control after getting destroyed in two debates

[@ferventprayer8987]

God bless your ministry brother. ✝️

[@gregorypizarro9403]

It’s funny how James white won’t call Catholics as brothers but calls those who reject the two wills of Christ as brothers. Literally is open to heresy that was dealt with in the 8th century. Hypocrisy at it’s finest

[@jasonwilliamson8027]

The Bible is not infallible or inerrant

[@protector9513]

It is strange how much catholic church doctrine is changing

[@Jerome616]

Nothing wrong with it changing in a good way. The real issue is if it contradicts itself in substantial ways.

[@vaekkriinhart4347]

In those recent debates with Jimmy Akin, it appeared to me that Akin was trying to get converts, not to really debate the issues. He was selling himself and his religion, in my view. He had pre- planned displays for the rebuttals. His rebuttals weren't rebuttals at all but a continuation of his catholic presentation. How can anyone have pre- planned slide optics for rebuttals before even hearing what was said? It made no sense. He was selling himself and presenting a view of catholicism that omitted the dogmas and ritual sacraments Dr. White had brought up; and then claimed that Dr. White promised not to address those things- which was a lie, I found out. edit* ps. 33:25 Dr. White talks about some of this, I just now discovered.

[@timothykoconas2377]

Dr. white has a doctorate from a non-accredited diploma mill. I'm not sure why he spends so much time bashing other denominations. I guess he considers it his job. I think he would be better of teaching his beliefs with regard to faith.

[@legomon]

These Catholics are sad they can’t accept that akin lost twice in a row

[@timboslice980]

Lol thats the first ive heard…. Even most Protestants say james white lost both those debates. Jimmy got him to admit sola scriptura wasnt expected, commanded, or even existed for the early church. Jimmy listed apostolic traditions that james white accepts, personally i think if you feel like james white won, then either you have no brain, youre just a cheerleader, or you didnt watch the debate. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt though, tell me… which of jimmys arguments did you find the most compelling? Was it that SS wasnt possible? Was it that the phrase word of god was proven to refer to oral preaching vastly more than its referred to as scripture? JW complained that Jimmy didnt debate like guys from 30 years ago, complained that he had slides prepared for all of Jame’s highly predictable defense, complained that he wouldnt go off topic, and had a competely bitter spirit throughout. Catholicism is exploding in popularity and guys like James White are one of the main reasons! If he really wanted to stop people from becoming catholic, he should just not speak about it. His position is so flawed and his estimation of Rome is so wrong that he’s just sending more people to the church. Myself included! I promise you i listened to this man for over a decade! He’s dead wrong about the church

[@marteld2108]

You were watching the wrong debate.

[@timboslice980]

@@marteld2108 Nope… jimmy akin defeated him 2 in a row. 1st on sola scriptura being a made up, non biblical doctrine. Second on how a christian is justified. I assume you think im getting the trent horn debate mixed up but its not. Jimmy simply continued to lay a foundation on that can of worms that trent opened. James White said sola scriptura was NOT possible until all of scripture was given to the church and even then it took ages for the full bible to be available. The number he gave in the trent horn debate was at least 500ad. So let me add to that….. the coptic orthodox broke away from the church in the 400’s. They dont use or ever used sola scriptura. The eastern orthodox broke away 600 years later…. Still no knowledge or use of sola scriptura. Jump ahead to the council of florence in the 1400s. The orthodox accepted papal authority at that council but when they returned home, they found themselves beaten excommunicated and murdered. Still not one mention of sola scriptura… not until the reformation does that doctrine even appear in history! So if sola scriptura isnt taught in scripture, wasnt taught by the early church, wasnt taught by any of the orthodox, and only appears when Martin Luther got crushed in a debate with Johann Eck. Anyone with a modicum of common sense can see sola scriptura is a man made tradition invented by martin luther because he couldnt handle being rebuked in a debate. Anyone with google can look this stuff up. Its basic church history.

[@mac3441]

When you accept White’s representation of Catholicism as true, I could see how you’d think that. It just requires you to believe a lie.

[@sharondavidson7412]

LOL!

[@IHS333]

He comes acros snarky and condescending