Low-Cost Feature-PACKED Game Controllers - EasySMX M05 and M10 for iPhone and Android!

[@GameTechTalk]

**Can they be modded for tablets?** I opened the controllers to see if they were using a similar system to GameSir, not quite. There is a coil but it is utilized exclusively for the retraction mechanism. The communications are handled through a ribbon cable, much like nearly every telescopic controllers. Modding still is a possibility, but nowhere near as simple and convenient.

[@Zetler]

This video saved me a shit ton of money. Instead of buying Steamdeck or a pricey Razer Kishi or Gamesir G8, I bought the M10 for peanuts and streamed Steam games at 1080p ultra in silky smooth 60 FPS. For home use this setup is amazing.

[@GameTechTalk]

Happy to have been of assistance! Thanks for the kind words 😊

[@RetroGamerBB]

Kashi is junk compared to the m05 & m10. Gamesir has more hits than misses.

[@Hydro-Ponik]

Bet you the M10 doesn't last more then 40 mins game time cuz it charges your phone while you plug it in and play. Also you can't map anything on screen with M10, just cloud gaming and Xbox ultimate.

[@louieg8825]

@@Hydro-Ponik can you help me what cheap mobile phone gamepad would you recommend? my first choise is the D8 pro, thank you.

[@Hydro-Ponik]

@@GameTechTalk it don't work on Motorola RAZR flip phone.

[@RetroGamerBB]

I'm looking for a usbc controller that has the feel and ergos of the xbox 360 controller. Is there anything close to

[@GameTechTalk]

Galileo G8 and G8+. Razer Kisha Ultra. (Not yet release) EasySMX M15 and abxylute S9.

[@travel.w.p]

I wouldn’t have thought about factoring which controller draws less power from my phone battery ! Smart indeed ! Now let me get that street fighter game installed :D

[@GameTechTalk]

Hadou-can!

[@ashtaron23]

Have you tried using a type c headset if it works in the usb c pass through port?

[@GameTechTalk]

It does not, I didn’t try a headset per say but I did try a usb-c to 3.5mm and that would’ve worked all the same if it was supported.

[@ashtaron23]

@@GameTechTalk thanks. I guess I'd have to stick to using Bluetooth once I get one.

[@mattdavis9601]

I'm not sure why I missed this review initially; but, better late than never. You said at the end of this video that you were taking a couple steps back to enable you to take many steps forward. Mission accomplished. You've came a long way in the four months since this review was first published.

[@GameTechTalk]

I am of the belief that the universe selects vessels to reach out to one another. And that a few times in our lives, we get to be that messenger for somebody else. Today, you've been that person for me. Matt, be it by fluke or by some sort of "bigger than life" intervention, you left this comment at a moment that I absolutely needed to hear, and be reminded of. For all the time you spend interacting with me, for always bringing value with the comments you make in so many refreshing ways. I am extremely grateful for your presence and for the kind words you have brought me. Thank you Matt.

[@oscargarciapicu]

I was wondering which one is better m05 or gamesir x2s ??? I want it to emulate with dolphin, ppsspp

[@GameTechTalk]

Personally, I would go EasySMX M05 over the GameSir X2s. Two great controllers but EasySMX takes the crown when comparing these two.

[@EeK9X]

Hey, Klef! Found your channel after looking for reviews of the M10. Congrats on the videos, all with great production and very informative! I’d love to see a latency test/comparison between the EasySMX M05, M10, Gamesir G8 Galileo and the G8+, if possible. I’m especially curious about the differences between a direct connection, through Lightning and USB-C (particularly on iOS devices, since I’m an iPhone user with an older 13 Pro Max), and Bluetooth. Is that something you’d be interested in doing? I’d really look forward to seeing it!

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you very much for the kind words! The struggle would be to get the latency on both Android and iOS. If such a tool exist, I wouldn't know where to look, nor where to start. So I benchmark on PC and hope that the data carries over to Android and iOS. With that said, I'm setting myself up little by little to test latency at hardware level but that won't be for a good while still.

[@tuen9222]

I disagree about the M10. I have tested it thoroughly and personally I find it uncomfortable for long sessions, if you play in bed, and compared to other telescopic gamepads it tires your hands due to the position of the abxy action buttons, that is exactly the problem in my opinion. Furthermore, the abxy action keys are too small, badly positioned too low and the click of the buttons is too soft, in the long run even here when you have to do so many key presses it becomes tiring. Another problem is the housing for placing the smartphone, you are forced to remove the cover if it is too thick, but even if it is thin the type-c port barely fits, you have to push it and force it to enter. For everything else it's excellent, but it's a shame that maybe I'll resell it, maybe the easysms M05 is better, maybe it has better made abxy action buttons. And in this regard, I must say that the Razer Kishi V2, I had in the past, was much better in terms of feedback than those keys (although I am a fan of soft membrane keys), those of the Kishi are excellent microswitches, better than the backbone ones too. I will most likely get the Kishi V2 Pro also because of the 3.5 mm jack input. I have many other telescopic gamepads and I use the BSP D6, gamesir G8, BSP D8, Backnone ps edition a lot. The one I use the most is the BSP D6, I find the action keys and ergonomics here to be perfect.

[@GameTechTalk]

Hey, comfort is definitely the most subjective aspect there is. With that said, I still favor the M05 to the M10 but based off of all I tested, I could make do with the M10 despite it not being my go to. For me Kishi V2 and V2 Pro are abysmal controllers and while yes, I can play with them, I will quickly dislike my experience. But I'm glad you provided your feedback, someone may have similar experiences to yours and be able to relate with your preferences, that's what my channel is all about, bringing like minded gamers to share their opinions so that we can all make better informed decisions when indulging in our gaming peripherals. Thanks for sharing your inputs my dude, it is greatly appreciated! :)

[@michaelsmelt5218]

Galileo G8 or this one brother?

[@GameTechTalk]

EasySMX's small telescopic controllers are really good but the Galileo G8 is on a category of its own. I'd go G8 personally.

[@michaelbenny659]

Homer cup is my new favorite cup Also, better kishi v2 is a bold claim

[@GameTechTalk]

You got taste... when it comes to cups! 😂 Joking aside, no point in pretending, the V2/V2 Pro was not a great solution in my subjective opinion. With that said, I do believe the M10 to be objectively better on all front but 3.5mm jack and software.

[@terribletimes902]

Kishi v2 is among the worst. Instead of actually improving on the Kishi v1 design, which Gamevice did with the Gamevice Flex, they decided to make a bad copy of the Backbone, a controller that is already outdated in this market because Backbone is very slow to update the design. A bad copy two years too late.

[@段宏-y9o]

小鸡作大了，x3pro就换个散热器加个手握就上市，国内卖价近500，就是作死的，米墨s3，百事得上市对小鸡市场冲击很大，小鸡应该尊重用户，不是加个配件就骗傻子的时代了

[@GameTechTalk]

你好！在游戏配件第三方市场，小吉颇受欢迎。我不知道他们叫小吉，我们叫他们GameSir。 我很高兴能够测试 X3 Pro，并且我很快就会评测 Memo S3 的平板电脑版本。感谢您观看我的视频，非常感谢！

[@rodrigointeriores02]

Whats is APP mapping for Iphone 15 TIPo c?

[@GameTechTalk]

There is not screen mapping on iOS unfortunately. Or if there is, I have never heard of such a solution.

[@Dus306]

watched all your video's on these controllers and decided on the m05 after your tier list vid. Thanks for the coupon code. Subscribed too

[@GameTechTalk]

Dang! Thanks a great deal for your trust and you will not be disappointed, it's good stuff. Let me know how you like it when you get it! Welcome aboard 😊

[@CF-vb5gf]

I don't know what should I buy the gamesir x2s, easysmx M05, or easysmx M10.

[@GameTechTalk]

Personally, my vote is on M05.

[@CF-vb5gf]

@@GameTechTalk Thanks for your answer! ☺️And this M05 has compatible on all android devices because my phone is Poco C65 type C. Also this M05 is durable than Gamesir X2S?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@CF-vb5gf It's hard to speak on durability but I can't say I find one has considerable superior quality over the other, in terms of feel at least. The M05 advantage seems more feature based. As for M10, I'd say quality seem and feel better than the two, plastic wise, button feel, etc. But in terms of feature and ergonomics, the M05 remains vastly superior.

[@The_SUN1234]

what phone is in M10?

[@GameTechTalk]

M10 is the one that is black whereas the white one is the M05.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Really nice video. I think the M10 is the better choice because of the hall effect thing... honestly, I am kinda traumatized with the goddamn drift, I lost so many PC controllers through the years because of this. Never tried hall effect, I think this is a rather new tech, right? So who knows if this thing is really more durable or not... but between a new gimmick compared to the old one who broke time and time again, hell, I will try something new. On a side note, I wish there was a controller out there who can spoof/mimic/copy the "dualsense" vibrations, for example the Ghost of Tsushima port takes advantage of this gimmick... so, dualsense + hall effect + a turbo function, that's all I need and I just can't find a controller like this

[@GameTechTalk]

I’d love for that too but while there are controllers using the same “haptic” type of rumble, it still is not as valuable without access to the “data line” so having both would indeed be killer to have. AFAIK, that is not available on the market outside of proprietary or licensed controllers.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

@@GameTechTalk I searched a bit more and another person pointed out the Apex 4, I saw a video of a brazilian guy testing the "haptic feedback" and it seems like Flydigi were able to spoof the triggers feedback (they get stuck, they vibrate, etc), but the vibration on the controller itself is not working (he tested Last of Us and Forbidden West). So the spoof is not quite there it seems, the most expensive chinese controller can't do it properly. Curious, the PS5 is already 4 years old and the chinese were not able to reverse engineered this particular gimmick. The controller can be recognized as a "dualsense" (using a external app by the way), but the vibration don't work 100% I wonder how the Nintendo "HD rumble" feels like, another kind of vibration that I never experienced (most likely it will be underwhelming, both gimmicks, but I remain curious)

[@alaaeddine7465]

M05 or bsp d8 ? I wanna buy one now

[@GameTechTalk]

Hmmm that’s a tough one. I think I would ultimately say the BSP D8 and ideally go Pro if you can. Both great picks either way.

[@alaaeddine7465]

@@GameTechTalk really ? I thought the m05 build and overall quality looks much better

[@GameTechTalk]

@@alaaeddine7465 I would say so but the BSP-D8 Pro is by no means a bad controller, its just a controller that doesn’t have a quality up there on every single one of its aspects, neither does the M05 despite being overall superior (quality wise). It also isn’t VASTLY superior, just a little from where I stand. With that said, the features on the BSP are easily unrivalled in that face-off. So with features into account, and because I would favor a « larger » controller, I’d say D8. But if you favor portability and small form factor, then M05. I hope this makes sense.

[@akhi4seven]

The m10 vs Kishi v2 which one weighs more and feels more premium? And out of those 2 how do they compare to the weight and feel of the backbone 2nd gen? Thank you

[@GameTechTalk]

I do not own the 2nd gen backbone but my understanding is that the only change is better case compatibility. So I'll assume that weight is nearly identical. M10 is 145g, Backbone USB-C is 139g. Kishi V2 Pro is 137g. Feel wise, the plastic feels ever so slightly better on Kishi v2 than EasySMX M10 but its so close you could think its a v1/v2 of the same product. M10 has better ergonomics and sticks as well as buttons in my humble opinion. As for Backbone, it feels better than both, definitely more than the Kishi v2, not as much when compared to the M10. Hence why I rate the M10 higher, its 95% to the Backbone but it's 1/3 of the price. Cheers!

[@akhi4seven]

@@GameTechTalk thank you boss 👍🏼

[@SickandTiredofmyLife]

Does the gyro in warzone mobile still works even if the controller is connected?

[@GameTechTalk]

Quite frankly, I didn't even know Warzone Mobile could be controller with gyro! Because it operates under X-Input, that which I'm pretty certain, gyro should technically stop working. I might try it in the morning as I am now on the verge of collapsing but I wanted to respond, best to assume that it doesn't work, if I test anything different, I'll let you know, cheers!

[@mogran5407]

I've bumped upon your channel today and decided to subscribe😊 not only very specific about game controllers but highly early adaptive. I have been looking for a reviewer who is able to utilize aliexpress for a up to date video, and it seems I have found the guy

[@GameTechTalk]

Welcome aboard and thank you for your suscription! I greatly appreciate

[@stardebrisx9]

Sadly, the right trigger has issues and triggers the right stick to go right and a lot of Android games simply do not support gamepads. I am returning it since it's not worth the price for the issues it has with many of the games.

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahhh dang, sorry to hear. EasySMX is usually very good with quality control, seems like the one you owned got through the net somehow. About gamepad support, some things are better on Android, some better on iOS. One thing for sure, with the rise of handhelds, telescopic controllers are also on the mega rise, Apple noticed, so did Android. And I think with those changes, the picking of controller options will only get better. Maybe give the market a year or two to mature a bit and revisit your options, I'm sure you'll find in due time and hopefully, I'll be there to make a video about the devices that interest you with gaming! 😊 Cheers :)

[@stardebrisx9]

@@GameTechTalk Yeah, the reason for getting this one is that I am moving back to Android. I have a Backbone with an iPhone which works VERY well. But so far my experience on Android with this is not that amazing. I might try getting the same one again to see if it's a defect, otherwise I might get the backbone with USB C.

[@Fractured_Nexus]

Have you been able to test the Vibration Function on other games besides SP!NG? If so, has it worked for you? I recently purchased a M05, and I find the only game that would use the Vibration was indeed SP!NG. Games like Genshin, Honkai, and Emulators seem to not recognize it despite being able to support the Vibration Function. What has your experience been?

[@GameTechTalk]

The one issue with mobile controllers now having rumble is that it is such a brand new move. With a slew of problems to have to deal with like MFi, games having proper rumble data tracks, the rumble being directed to the controller (as opposed to the phone/tablet), it will probably be a few years before the market has standardized rumble to "just work" when it's expected to. Games developers have their parts in that as well, some will eventually patch things out, some won't. So to your point, yes it's very inconsistent if and how it will work. Android is doing a bit better these days despite having had rumble support after Apple did though. That is mainly due to how hardware drivers are handled on Android but on iOS, Apple also has to do a fair amount of work themselves. They've been good with gaming lately so who knows, we might see that solution fixed sooner rather than later. Time will tell!

[@Fractured_Nexus]

@@GameTechTalk Thank you for such an insightful response! I didn’t realize it is such a new feature on the market! Even looking into MFi, and delving deeper, this is absolutely a new generation of technology for mobile we are looking at. It will be exciting to see it unfold! I also agree that it will be up to developers to some extent, especially Apple allowing said technology to work, let alone be natively supported, as we still do not have access to JIT Support as they consider it a security risk, a very needed feature for certain applications to run at their best. However given Apples surprisingly positive reception to gaming and the push even they have given, I have no doubt we will see a lot of progress this year! Exciting times for IOS users! I for one am ready to have my phone be my replacement to the PSP I carry everywhere! Lastly, I recently discovered that IOS actually has an app for the M05, it’s called MooWii Gaming and it actually allows for full customization of the controller! It’s admittedly a little outdated, but I found it to be a useful tool to test the vibration, and even allows for buttons to be added to a list that when pressed, will run the vibration! If you ever have the time I would definitely check it out as it can change a lot! The tool is under “Game Station” if you press “go to” upon having the app locate the controller. Thank you for the reply! I subscribed and definitely look forward to more content in the future!

[@GameTechTalk]

@@Fractured_Nexus Oh dang, you blessed me today!! I will definitely look that app up and yeah, here I was dropping mild info but you are as versed on the subject! Always fun to meet a fellow hardware enthusiast! I'm with you 100%, Apple has been giving much deserved attention to gamers lately and it's exciting to see how that'll pan out! I was too busy to update to the beta channel but I'm excited to see Game Mode and that iPhone to iPad/MacOS screen streaming feature, especially for gaming purposes!

[@abigaellemercierdieu796]

😎 Thanks 👌🏽

[@GameTechTalk]

Pleasure is all mine!

[@retrolunchtime]

I love my kishi but it broke, I hope this is a good modern replacement

[@GameTechTalk]

That double-time treatment, thanks! 😊 I wish EasySMX would make the M05 readily available on Amazon. Of the two (if you replaced your Kishi), which one would you pick?

[@retrolunchtime]

@@GameTechTalk I’m stuck in an iPhone 14 with lightning for the next few years, but I love Ppsspp and folium for 3ds. So likely the $35 USD M10 with lightning

[@GameTechTalk]

@@retrolunchtime I saw that while making the description! The Amazon deal does make it quite a bargain.39$ + a discount coupon if anyone sees this! That does change my perspective a bit.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@vk_filem Well Kishi V1 is membrane face buttons. But if you want tactile and muted, GameSir X2s is your best bet. If you want membrane and muted, though it has a lot more lacking, the BSP-D3 is actually quite muted in terms of buttons (but also quite cheap). If you don't mind a bit of sound but want better quality, the EasySMX models (both of them are great), same with Galileo G8. I hope this helps! I have them all so if you have more questions, ask away, cheers!

[@Shadeamous]

I hope my iphone with case fits in the white one it looks thin enough

[@GameTechTalk]

I use a thin case on the iPhone and it works but it's the thinnest I could find, I don't know about any thicker as I haven't had other cases to test it with.

[@Shadeamous]

@@GameTechTalk bought the white controller off temu for 30$ hope its good and fits

[@gregorybolivar5712]

Another Awesome content...To enjoy... Indeed..🤓🧐

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you greatly! Lots of good things coming and this is the first step in that direction!

[@muhammadasyraf9691]

What game u play shooting game?

[@GameTechTalk]

It's Call of Duty Warzone Mobile, I mostly play it for testing purposes but honestly, it's pretty fun

[@sandinogatchalian3730]

It does not support CODM.

[@GameTechTalk]

Indeed, someone asked on a different video if Backbone was my only wired telescopic controller that worked with CODM and to my surprise, it was. Also, technically the M05 does have Bluetooth so you could plug it in and use Bluetooth but it would be cheating-ish. Cheers

[@emiliev]

😊

[@93goose]

Gamesir vs this?🤔

[@GameTechTalk]

Give me a couple hours, I got a video that will answer this very question coming out on the channel! 😁

[@93goose]

@@GameTechTalk ty! 😁

[@mem2769]

👌🏽👌🏽