Lowest Lift Needed to Run 37s on The Jeep Gladiator Rubicon | Inside Line

[@rodaragones3902]

I really appreciate your video because I’m considering to replace my tires with 37 inch without a lift. You answered all my questions and concerns about this subject. I’m glad that you’re happy about your modifications

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

The math is absolutely brutal on Long wheelbases. The fact is you can take a gladiator with 35-in tires and a 2-in lift and you are still not going to beat the break over angle of a stock Renegade Trailhawk. (I don't have a renegade but I definitely would not diss the Renegade). You didn't but a lot of people do.

[@yesihavebedbugs2786]

I hope you are ashamed of yourself. Trying to use facts and logic on social media? The utter gall of you, for shame. 😂😂😂

[@HeadHonchoMofo]

Nice video, good info. I'm in NC myself, been here 6.5 yrs. Recently purchased a 2021 gladiator. I'm looking forward to my first off road/camping trip to Uwharrie this year.

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

3 inch lift with 37 inch tire will put you at a 28.5° breakover. In general , I've seen that when you're getting to about 30 degrees or better on all the angles then life is pretty darn good. It feels like a general rule : the 30° mark . The thing I think about also is your approach angle doesn't usually get you stuck ... your departure angle doesn't usually get you stuck.. those angles are really worrying about damage to the front or the back but you're not going to get stuck, usually. Getting stuck is about to break over angle. If you get turtled in some mud you're going to have a bad day. Goes without saying.

[@jonathang1986]

What a fantastic video. I ordered a Bronco 9 months ago but my stock Gladiator was driving me nuts. This allows me to save some cash and drive a great-looking Gladiator for the next 7-12 months while I wait on the Bronco. Thanks!

[@DrivingLine]

Glad it helped!

[@kevinthomson6324]

Always been a fan of the low lift and big tires look.

[@DrivingLine]

Us too!

[@RCWildvideos]

I did the 1.5 Teraflex spacer upfront and a 3/4" space in the rear. That kept some rake and added a little more room in all the fenders. Plus you get a tiny bit of extra belly clearance.

[@travisprater7932]

I was thinking this same thing. I want to do something inexpensive until I can save up for a good 3.5” lift but I also want to put a decked in the bed.

[@derekpb6394]

Great organized video from opening to closing, it has made my choice on new wheels a more confidant choice, prior to this I was looking at some 37s with a 4.3 back spacing and it looked well so looking at a 5.7 back spacing I would be more nervous with prior to seeing your videos. I'm trying to get my clearance with keeping my CG low and focusing on the tire now... Have: 2019 JLUR with 2.5" Teraflex sport ST2 lift, track bar etc. Adding AEV Bora Dual sport with ideally some Micky Thompson Baja Boss A/T (waiting patiently for them) or Deegen's 37x12.50R17LT but the tire tree is bare of late... So still waiting...

[@chrishunt5291]

I just did the 1.5 on the front and. 75 in the rear. 37s going on tomorrow on stock JL rubicon wheels with a 1.5 in wheel.spacer .

[@Darkzee604]

Wow great job Driving Line! You really put together a great video. Lots of basic information and more. First video seen, look forward to seeing more.

[@DrivingLine]

Thank you!

[@daringries]

Awesome video!!! Thanks 👍👍👍👍👍 Wonder if this would be the same with the eco diesel. Just test drove one yesterday and I was super impressed!

[@tman1129]

There will still be at least a half inch forward rake with the full 1.5 inch kit installed. If you really think you're going to tow or haul, get a $125 helper air bag kit for the rear, you then get no squat under load, AND spring rate adjustability on the trail with a compressor!

[@vancegreening]

Great review, I just added the 1.5 teraflex in the front and 3/4” daystar in the rear and am loving this setup so far. Would love to see a video on the Suron! I’ve been interested in them for some time now.

[@holdencross7534]

Did you have to regear?

[@vancegreening]

@@holdencross7534 you don’t need to regear for a lift. I have 3.73 gears and plan on running 35’s without regearing but I also have a manual.

[@davidvvvvv1876]

What tires did you end up with? I just added the same to my rubicon JT. Thinking I'm just going to do smaller 37s. Bfg k02s

[@Adrian-rn1ym]

@@davidvvvvv1876 I have a 22 gladiator rubicon 6 mt and I just put 37 inch bfg all terrains on it. And I love it ,they ride so much better than the 33 falkens .much quieter and track really well on road. I really don’t even find the stock gearing that bad. S

[@oldasiandude76]

Does this set up require any geometry corrections? Track bar or control arms replaced?

[@Undeniablesmirk]

Awesome video! I feel like i heard that i wanted to be heard. My plan for 2022 jl rubicon is 2.5” metalcloak lift up with 37” tires. I found out that there wont be rubbing fender or front bumper throughout your video! Thanks a lot.

[@4lowfleep664]

Good info. Im Going to try 37s on my 2020 JL. Wish me luck

[@Mike_E_44]

Great video! I'm beyond this point with my rig but still watched this for information/learning purposes. Well done.

[@gregbeasley2657]

Really been enjoying the Gladiator series , great work "Ollie"

[@DrivingLine]

Thanks Greg!

[@drainbamage13]

Since you've got both the project glad and the family hauler glad, I was curious about your opinion on 35s vs 37s for just a general, well-rounded, sort of "jack of all trades" tire setup. I've been waiting to swap wheels/tires until the stock Wild Peaks run out their life and I'd like to do it just once. Mostly mud/sand for off-roading... occasional light towing... lots of time w/ the bed loaded but usually pretty light... we're a family of beach bums from Florida currently living in Holly Ridge. 6MT Glad Rubi Really enjoy your videos - keep at it! Genuinely appreciate your pragmatism and the thoughtful consideration that goes into each decision!

[@DrivingLine]

Thanks! I just got back from a 500 mile trip with my family in the Gladiator on 37s. We hit some trails in Uwharrie and did a bunch of tourist stuff. If we were not going wheeling ,I would not have taken it. The extra lift and larger tires makes a big difference on the trails. For daily driving, I prefer the Gator one on 35s. It's much easier for the family to get in and out of. A 35 fits fine in the stock spare location and the 4.10 gears are fine with that setup. For what it sounds like you are doing, I would go 35s.

[@bane1240]

Been watching your vids for a little over a year and great content in all of them. This one in particular though I think will serve as the inspiration for me on what I will do, short term, for my 2023 High Altitude with the Capability Package (Steel front Rubicon bumper and FF camera). Just picked it up on 3/7/24 after an exhaustive search. Was between that and the Mojave and for the price difference and initial investment, and that it was local vs 7 hours away from me (the Mojave I was considering), the HA won out. Anyway, the approach here is what I am going to do as well, level the front out 1-1.5" and the rear 0-.5" just to fit 35/12.5/17 w/ 0-negative 6 to 12 offset wheels. I believe that will allow me to run that size tire for very little out of pocket while I figure out my long term suspension plan. With the HA having less fender flare clearance, I will go w/35's vs 37's as 37's on my Gladiator would require much more change to allow it to work at all. Likely Clayton package at some point but wheels and tires are more important now. Thanks and keep up the great content!

[@daringries]

And still probably fits in most garages.. The look is great- however I think the tires are a little bit too wide for me..

[@bachoban]

Great video, That's exactly what i want to do with my future gladiator, I am waiting for the HEMI engine from Jeep.

[@heymikes]

Don't wait. Supercharge the 3.6, more torque and horsepower than a 5.7L Hemi.

[@zacharyfike1071]

I went with those 35/11.5/17's on OE wheels on my JT Rubi because of your video. I was grabbing belly all over Uwharrie also. I think if i want to wheel Dickie Bell or more i'll take the JLUR.

[@DrivingLine]

That's still my favorite tire on these with no lift and stock wheels. It was wild how much that extra wheelbase makes this thing hit. Much different than the JL for sure. - Ali

[@reynoldlambert]

Love all your content! Keep them coming!

[@DrivingLine]

Thank you!

[@tryfourlo]

I love real world builds

[@AV8R_1]

Did you put the 1" up front only, or in the rear too? IMO, aftermarket flares will give you a better overall result. They're cheaper than a lift, allow significantly more clearance, and don't come with the headaches and warranty problems of an aftermarket suspension modification.

[@DrivingLine]

There's only a 1-inch spacer up front. Nothing in the rear.

[@mdanielswv42]

Killer video showing capability

[@AllTerrainFamily]

I like that you did with a cheap spacer lift. Smart way to see what exact lift amount you need. Do you think a more complex lift with longer coils and either control arms or bracket drops would change the axle articulation enough to make it better? Worse? I wonder if that would even work with only 1 inch of lift. I guess you could get more down travel.

[@DrivingLine]

I like the stance, but I'm going to add a little more lift to keep the belly for dragging so much. I don't expect to get a lot more travel out of it without stepping up to a coilover setup. I'm thinking a basic 2.5-3 inch kit with a set of lower control arms should work fine for my needs. I'm just hoping the aftermarket shock valving will be better than stock.

[@MichaelSamman]

Thanks for an informative video. I'm installing Road Armor Stealth fender flares on my Mojave. I know I get an inch higher lift than the Rubicon up front so based on your video I should be fine, thoughts? I'm not going to be doing any rock crawling, just some light trails and post winter NJ roads (potholes).

[@DrivingLine]

I don't have much experience modifying the Mojave platform. My gut is that you will still need some sort of bump stop extension up front for going off-road. The type of front bumper you have could be an issue if it's full width.

[@travisprater7932]

Great set up for someone like me that is impatient to get 37's on there rig while I save up for a proper lift. But I think I'm going to run the 1.5" spacers in the front and a .75" in the rear to bring the whole thing up a little more since I also want to throw in a decked system and a steel front bumper.

[@valorkennels]

did you end up running 37s wuth the leveling kit?

[@travisprater7932]

@@valorkennels I did not. I ended up finding a set of 35's from a friend for a really good price. So I've been running those while I save up for a 4.5" long arm kit and 38's.

[@angelsuarez17]

Awesome content. Appreciate the details on this setup 👌

[@rami3860]

Great info & review!

[@DrivingLine]

Thank you!

[@MarkHourshad]

Great vid Ali!

[@DrivingLine]

Thank you!

[@eziocomparini7068]

Nice, when will you do a video on the electric bike?

[@DrivingLine]

I haven't really thought too much about that. I guess I need to start compiling more riding footage of it! - Ali

[@AlexCruz-qo6lr]

Great advice. Thanks for your great work!

[@Ali_Mansour_Editor]

Thank you.

[@traviolisupreme]

Excellent video 🙂👍

[@Ali_Mansour_Editor]

Thank you!

[@emennet]

Your videos are extremely helpful. Thank you so much, sir!

[@DrivingLine]

Thank you!

[@randomstuff3672]

I feel like this would work really well on the 2 door Rubi I just ordered.

[@michaellyden9839]

Why did you pick 2dr over 4dr I'm considering the same haven't made up my mind

[@randomstuff3672]

@@michaellyden9839 Because 4 drs suck. LOL. Ive had a lot of vehicles in my life and Im getting rid of the one four door for a two door jeep. They are just too long and big 90% of the time. 2 doors are more fun to drive on the street and easier to park and lighter weight and peppier and look better. 4 dr is more practical every once in a while but not enough for me to want to lug that extra weight and length everywhere and all the time. 4 drs climb great but for hard core wheeling they almost require 2.5-3” of lift and true 37” tires and gears at a min. With 2 drs I think I can get by with 315 tires good skids and no regear.

[@BenLeBlanc1]

Nice. Basically everyone online seems to have the rubicon- I would personally like to know what is the setup for a sport to run 35s

[@TheHitSquadOffroad]

I hear most are doing about a 2 inch lift. I'm going with a 4.5 Rock Krawler lift on my Overland, but I'm not sure if I'm going to regear to run 37s or just hold off and run 35s until I'm ready to upgrade to dana 60s so I can run 40s, but that will be years down the road most likely.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

He did a video a few months back about running 35s with no lift. Good technical detail on offsets.

[@lamoscapeluda]

Is it really necessary to unbolt the track bar for the install? Thanks. Great video!

[@DrivingLine]

No, but it will make it easier to re-install the passenger side spring. Thank you.

[@AlanTrades]

You don't have to add shock extenders or new control arms?

[@DrivingLine]

Not with this small of a spacer.

[@anthonynanna3759]

Been watching EVERY possible video to see about doing 37's on my 2020 Gladiator Rubicon with just a leveling kit. 90% on road and 10% would be trails and two tracks (no real flexing at all). Any idea if this would work with the factory rubicon wheels?

[@DrivingLine]

You may need to put wheel spacers on to keep the tires from rubbing the control arms, but I have seen a few Gladiators with stock wheels and 37s. Keep in mind, most 37x12.50 tires are technically too wide for the stock wheel.

[@BigDThatsMe]

Great video. Thanks

[@deweyvarner6963]

Great video and great information! Good job and love your gladiator.I wish I would have bought the soft top Mojave instead of my hard top!

[@veronicaoliver7293]

Awesome 👌

[@pparks72]

Thanks for the video. I am also in NC(eastern) and interested in upgrading my JT. I would like to do the work myself, however I have limited mobility and would need trustworthy shop. Do you know any in NC?

[@Ali_Mansour_Editor]

Low Range 4x4 is one of the best shops in eastern NC. They are located in Wilmington. Anything I can’t do myself, I use them for.

[@pparks72]

@@Ali_Mansour_Editor thank you

[@Lohkay]

I was considering the AEV wheels and 37's as well. My only concern was about a loss of turning radius. Did you have to adjust your steering stops? No rubbing on sway bar or control arms?

[@DrivingLine]

No rub on my sway bar or control arms. I have not adjusted my steering stops. Everything steering-wise is still stock. - Ali

[@nyclifeguardmoe]

I’m wondering if that extra 1/2” that you left out would have helped you preform better and reduced the rubbing you had

[@DrivingLine]

It doesn’t make a big difference. I also felt like it make the Jeep nose high more than level.

[@nyclifeguardmoe]

@@DrivingLine I would go with your advice and just raise my truck the 1”, even though I’m running 35s

[@pchappy2.0]

I want to know what time of year/day that you went to Dickey Bell and there wasn't anyone on the trails lol! Wanting to take my wife out in her Wrangler next season and not have her feel rushed because a bunch of people are out.

[@DrivingLine]

Almost anytime of the year Monday through Thursday you can have that place to yourself. Summer months can be hit and miss with crowds of people, but it’s usually not bad during the week.

[@pnikitin]

hmm interesting, shouldn't you also add some extensions to shock absorber after installing those spacers ?

[@Ali_Mansour_Editor]

For 1-inch, it’s not necessary. TeraFlex does offer a shock upgrade kit with this kit however.

[@co4x4]

I understand this video is older but IF YOU WOUL BE SO KIND could you tell me if I did the fender chop by installing the ADVENTURE LAB led turn signals would that allow me to run the 37's as well without doing what you just showed here in the video? Thank you! Cheers from Denver Colorado

[@DrivingLine]

If you split your fenders, you will have ample room. I have a video on the channel where I split the fenders on this Jeep.

[@nickdigeronimo7224]

Hey guys, great video's, I have 2021 Gladiator Rubicon here, I was thinking of adding the AEV 2" spacer lift N0921000AB, with the Teraflex 1057000 1.75” Wheel Offset while running the the same 37s on the stock wheel, and stock front fender, what are your thoughts?

[@DrivingLine]

Thanks. While we have not tested that specific setup, on paper, your proposed combo should work. You'll be a little out of spec width-wise with that tire on the stock wheel, but other than that, you should be in the clear. The only thing that could be an issue is the front bumper.

[@kalonzo315]

Did you end up doing it? I have 2021 Gladiator Rubicon too, it’s still a stock. I’m ready to get lift and battling on 35’s or 37’ I love to do Moab, not too crazy challenges, and go to the mountains and camp. So I wonder if 35’a would do or 37? Lots of driving or roadtrip to go those destination.

[@oldasiandude76]

Great video. I was curious, I have a Mojave. Since the Mojave comes an inch higher stock, I could probably run 37s and it would be the same as your Rubicon. Thanks for your reply in advance.

[@DrivingLine]

I haven’t tested this setup with a Mojave. My gut is you still need to add the 1 inch bump spacer at the front axle. Beyond that, everything else should be the same.

[@oldasiandude76]

@@DrivingLine and that's just to prevent the tire from going into the front fender correct?

[@DrivingLine]

Correct

[@MrHand-ih4sz]

Just an added thing not too many folks think about. The spare tire. I have a factory 2 inch lift and 35's on 17 inch rims. The 35 inch spare squeezes in just fine where the stock spare was. Not sure if a 37 would slip in there or not. May seem like a minor thing, but toting a 37 inch spare in the bed all the time would sure rub me the wrong way. Anyone tried to fit a 37 spare?

[@DrivingLine]

I've seen some 37s fit and others rub. It depends on the tire and wheel. Most of the time the issue is the tire rubs on the rear track bar. You could go with a Rock Krawler 4-link conversion and possibly get away with a 37- or 38-inch tire in the stock location. If you don't have the tow group, you might be able to inch the tire reward as well. There are a lot of factors to consider. If you're going to hit the trail, I don't think the stock spare location is a smart spot for a 37.

[@JeepinNation]

Nice video. About how much lift you think it would take to avoid the scraping. I'm running a 2.5" ReadyLift spacer lift on mine with Rubicon front springs as well. Sitting on 315 70 17 BFGs right now but I'm shopping for 37's right now. Looking hard at the Kanati Trail Hogs. I'm in NC as well, I'm guessing you are also. For reference I got a Max tow. I'm was contemplating a 3.5" spacer lift with 37's but I may just throw them on there and see where I'm at

[@DrivingLine]

Yep! I'm in Wilmington, NC. I haven't done much testing with non-Rubicon platforms, so I'm not entirely sure 3.5 inches will be enough to keep it from rubbing the fenders on the trail. On-road, I'm sure you'd be fine. Most lift's that I have been looking at for my Rubicon say you need 3-inchs for 37s, but obviously, you can get with much less. I think the ticket will be making sure your bump stops are tall enough to keep the tire's out of the fenders. If you didn't want to go any higher, you could always get a set of Rubicon flares or some from the aftermarket and keep the lift you have. I've been seeing more Gladiator Rubicon flares pop up on marketplace lately. Best of luck either way!

[@phistry810]

I am thinking about only going with the 1” instead of the 1.5” on my JTR. Does it get it pretty level this way? I don’t mind a little rake but don’t want to do the install twice if I need to go 1.5”. Keeping the stock wheels / tires for now also. Great video!

[@DrivingLine]

Thanks. It's pretty level with just the 1-inch. Adding the 1.5 makes it appear nose-high to me. I think you would be happy with the look of just the 1-inch.

[@phistry810]

@@DrivingLine Thanks!

[@phistry810]

@@DrivingLine Would it make a difference if I had after market wheels or use wheel spacers that push the tire out? Then would the bump stops be needed with the 1”?

[@johnmorgan8033]

I'm running 37" with no lift and no scraping of the frame or liners.

[@DrivingLine]

We tested this same setup with no lift as well. Worked fine on the street, but it rubbed heavily on the front fenders when we flexed it.

[@MachineGunMike]

Wow

[@6252e]

R u running the pentastar with those tires? If so any issues with the larger tires.

[@DrivingLine]

Yes. I have the 3.6 L V6. I’ve never had an issue with this engine, thankfully.

[@kenlchambers]

Hey Ali, you still have the Teraflex .5 inch spacer you want to part with? I just need a little more space up front. Thanks.

[@DrivingLine]

I’m holding onto it just in case I need it.

[@AdventurousRedJeep]

How do you feel about the 4.56 gearing option with 37’s Do you think it will still keep 8 gear?

[@DrivingLine]

It would depend on how l true to size the tire is and how heavy it is. I would recommend going with 4.88 at least. There have been times with 4.88s and 37s on the interstate that I wished I had even more gearing.

[@jason8795]

Ali, would a 1" spacer lift change the castor at all?

[@DrivingLine]

Yes. It does change it slightly, but I honestly don’t remember the exact amount. It’s not so much that you would need a lower control arm.

[@RogerJG21]

question I got a 2021 Gladiator Rubicon, I'm getting a Mopar 2" lift kit, and I want to get set of BlackRhino Arsenal Wheels 17x9.5 with 4.5" backspacing -18 with and I wanted to get 35" Nitto Ridge Grappler Tire 37x12.50R17LT I called 4 different Jeep Dealers to get the job done everyone tells this 37" will rub we tried putting 37" and they all rub. why are they saying that when I see you with no lift using 37"

[@DrivingLine]

With 4.5 inches of backspacing, you may experience rubbing on the fenders with 37s. The wheels I am running have more backspacing, which keeps them tucked further inside of the wheelwells. You can run 37s with 2-inches of lift, but you might want to look at a different wheel with more backspacing.

[@zacharywood88]

Would there be excessive rubbing with the factory plastic rubicon bumper. If I ran the same setup otherwise?

[@DrivingLine]

No. Works fine. I have tested it that way as well.

[@AlanTrades]

What are the wheel specs and tire dimensions? Would it fit without the spacers you think? You don't need to change the gearing with the larger tires?

[@DrivingLine]

The wheel has 5.72 inches of backspacing. It’s a 37x12.50 Nitto Trail Grappler. It is recommended to do gears with 37s. I ended up doing 4.88 gears.

[@AlanTrades]

@@DrivingLine thanks! Whats the brand of the wheel, and what are the offsets?

[@DrivingLine]

The wheels from AEV. The offset is +25mm

[@Glogang-ei1sz]

You think on a rubicon with 40s and a 4 inch lift and stock fender is good

[@DrivingLine]

I believe you would still rub off-road. If you pull the inner and lower portion of the flare, it would probably work fine.

[@continuethejourneytransame1054]

What would the stance be if running stock rubicon rims with this tires? Would tire poke out more or stay stuffed under the way you are running?

[@DrivingLine]

The tire would be under the fender a little more on the stock wheel.

[@robrobinson584]

Any idea how mopar 2in lift and 37s on a willys would work. Seems like all I can find is on Rubicons

[@DrivingLine]

I honestly don’t know. There’s a lot of factors in play. The wheel’s backspacing along with the type of tire will make a huge difference. I’m going to guess that it’s still going to rub, but how much is hard to say.

[@randycarter4529]

I got a Sport S model with the MAX TOW. Do you think 35s and the Mopar 2 inch lift will work with the factory fenders?

[@Ali_Mansour_Editor]

I haven’t tested that setup. Based off of other non-Rubicon Gladiators I have come across, most seem to have good luck with 2.5 inches and 35s. My guess is the Mopar lift will give you a touch more than 2 inches of lift and include 2-inch bump stop landing pads. If you rub, I imagine it would be very little. Of course, much of that is going to depend on your tire and wheel package.

[@SkyHawk2729]

I have 2022 Gladiator Rubicon. Im not worried about hauling anything. So do you think the full 1.5 would level the jeep better or the 1in will level better?

[@DrivingLine]

I prefer the look of the 1 inch over the 1.5. If you have a winch, add the .5. Without it, the extra .5 makes it look a touch nose high to me.

[@SkyHawk2729]

@@DrivingLine I dont have a winch and dont think ill end up installing one. So i guess 1in it is. Thanks brother.

[@SkyHawk2729]

@@DrivingLine If i do the 1in with 35s do you think it will still look ok? Im hoping they wont look too small.

[@tonystark19631]

For pure street driving, this would be an adequate lift to run 37's? Does this apply to a Sport trim with Max Tow? It has the same axles, but not the same shocks right?

[@DrivingLine]

Max tow is same axle width, but the highline flares on the Rubicon make the real difference here. You will need a small lift or highline flares from a Rubicon to do the same as you see here on a Sport.

[@Redneck_Wizard]

Why don't you just try off-roading some weekends if you have a rig like that?

[@tonystark19631]

@@Redneck_Wizard I would love to take it on a trail. Nothing too crazy. I'm just too time limited. I know 99% of my time is just city driving.

[@transws6am]

anyone hear any issues with spacers and going off road?

[@kevenboudreaux3204]

Do you have a link for the spacer kit and bump stock for a JL rubicon running 35 x 12.5?

[@DrivingLine]

I think this is what you are looking for: teraflex.com/news_items/teraflex-releases-all-new-jl-jeep-wrangler-and-jlu-jeep-wrangler-unlimited-1-5-performance-spacer-lift-kits

[@trackstar1able]

Ali if I do this on my rubicon gladiator with the ave Pinter wheels will the stock plastic bumper work or will it rub?

[@DrivingLine]

You'll most likely rub on the back part of the plastic bumper. You can removed the plastic panels on each side of the bumper, which will free up a little room. However, I think you will still get into the bumper a fair amount when the tire is stuffed and turned off-road.

[@paulmercado328]

don't you need shock extensions for this set up?

[@DrivingLine]

No.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

I thought you had a Gator Gladiator. Did you buy a new one?

[@Ali_Mansour_Editor]

I still have the Gator one. I traded my JL Wrangler in on this one. I didn’t plan on owning two of these things, but it was a great deal. I wasn’t driving the JL as much and I didn’t want to bash up my Gator one as it’s my primary daily driver.

[@rd9865]

When you put your 37 inch tires on did you regear??

[@DrivingLine]

I am now running 4.88 gears, but in this video I was still running the stock 4.10s.

[@phistry810]

I reached out to Teraflex Bc I’m planning on doing just the 1” spacer but with 35s and they said I wouldn’t need the bump stops. What do you think? Thanks!

[@DrivingLine]

Yes. You can run without the bump stops with 35s.

[@phistry810]

@@DrivingLine Thank you!

[@chrisball1916]

I was looking at the same AEV wheels on my granite JLUR. What color combo did you go with?

[@Ali_Mansour_Editor]

It’s the satin black wheel with the onyx ring.

[@chrisball1916]

@@Ali_Mansour_Editor thanks! I've heard the onyx ring matches the granite good

[@Ali_Mansour_Editor]

@@chrisball1916 it really does. I debated on doing the main portion of the wheel with that color, but I was a little nervous that it would look a bit off. Holding the ring next to the truck however, it really looks pretty spot on.

[@chrisball1916]

@@Ali_Mansour_Editor thanks for the great information! Definitely helps my decision. Just wish they weren't so damn expensive lol

[@michaelmccann8624]

What wheels are on this setup in this video?

[@DrivingLine]

They are 17 inch AEV Borah DualSport wheels.

[@MrDerekSheppard]

People have been running 37's with no lift perfectly fine....tf?

[@worldwide2986]

Did you do a alignment after ?

[@DrivingLine]

No. The toe didn’t change. Only had to adjust the drag link a touch to get the steering wheel straight.

[@TheLakeShow323]

So a 2.5 mopar lift to run 37s would be absolutely no rubbing?

[@DrivingLine]

I haven't tested that kit, but I would assume that it comes with taller bump stops in the front given it's a 2.5 lift. With my same AEV/Trail Grapplers combo and that lift height, you should be fine.

[@stephencarbajal5657]

I have the same wheels and the mopar 2" but 37 BF KM3, no rubbing. Looks proper too

[@Wrangzilla]

I have an AEV 2.5 lift on my JLUR with 37’s and don’t have any rub. It’s actually the perfect height for me...

[@markgosser9578]

@@stephencarbajal5657 I did a 2” lift with 35” tires and regret doing due to tires look small in wheel well. Installing 37” soon.

[@stephencarbajal5657]

@@markgosser9578 I bet you did, like I said 37's look proper.

[@johnniemeyer3139]

How bad is it on 37s and 410 gears is it livable ? How much of a difference is it from 35?

[@DrivingLine]

I don't like it. Running 35s is fine, but the step up to 37s has made it tough for it to keep 7th and I rarely see 8th gear. I will be re-gearing it soon.

[@johnniemeyer3139]

@@DrivingLine thank you ! It’s not what I wanted to hear but what I needed to hear.

[@Wrangzilla]

It’s not that bad with the auto, it’s a dog with the manual. You do lose 8th a lot, but it’s not that bad. I also see about 17.8mpg in the summer and 15.8 now in the winter, but I drive fairly conservative.

[@AlanTrades]

What kind of bike is that

[@DrivingLine]

It's a Sur-Ron Light Bee X.

[@m2003h]

The lift I see guy's doing is 4.5 inch

[@DrivingLine]

That’s a lot of lift for 37s. I moved to a 3-inch lift from JKS. Worked great with 37s and even better when I axle swapped and moved up to 40s.

[@FRWD_FXLRST]

Just remove the bottom of the fender flares.

[@DrivingLine]

That would definitely solve the rubbing problem for sure.

[@KP-wi3vc]

What gears are you planning?

[@Ali_Mansour_Editor]

4.88s from Nitro Gear.

[@KP-wi3vc]

@@Ali_Mansour_Editor gotcha. Why did you pick 4.88 over 5.13? Seems pretty divided opinion

[@Ali_Mansour_Editor]

@@KP-wi3vc I was on the fence as well. Ultimately, I live in the coastal plains and I think the 4.88s will give me the best balance of power and fuel economy for what I use the Jeep for. It’s honestly not that big of a difference between the two. If I lived in a place with more elevation, I would go with the 5:13.

[@iVisual.sambonkowski]

American and its Allied forces won WWII, both in Europe and the pacific, driving on Jeep Willys. they drove it in the thick jungles of SE Asia, the endless deserts of North Africa, the high mountains and stony rivers of Western Europe. They could have chosen any tire size. They choose 32”. It had 32” tires. The American crushed the Nazies and the Japanese Emperial armies riding a Jeep with 32” tires. Surely if it was good enough for them, it should be good enough for you guys while you play around with your Jeeps, unless of course the massive tires size is designed to compensate for some other size issues…

[@andyparker7615]

Stop thinking you know whats best for everybody! You do not! Sounds like some dumb shit a democrat would say!

[@humanresourcecompany5597]

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[@Ali_Mansour_Editor]

Hello Ali from Turkey!

[@changito2080]

So essentially a stock mojave will run 37s just like this??

[@DrivingLine]

Yes, but you will still need to bump stop the front.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

Just buy the Mojave. It sits a inch higher than the Rubicon.

[@DrivingLine]

Then you don't get the front locker, electric sway bar disconnect, or rear bed protection. Sure, the shocks on the Mojave are awesome, but seems like a big trade off if you are actually going to use it on the trail...

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

@@DrivingLine correct, you don't get the sway bar disconnect. But I did get the bed protection on mine.

[@phillyb4588]

Why this seems silly

[@DrivingLine]

Sometimes it's fun to be silly.