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StarCraft 2: FIGHTING CO-OP COMMANDERS!

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April Fools in StarCraft 2 Co-op. Sudden but inevitable.
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Previous mutation mission: goo.gl/RnAjFr
Amon's corruption is overtaking everything and everyone. Soon even your closest ally will betray you. It's clear no one can be trusted. There is only one option left: destroy them before they destroy you.
In this video I try out at least one game with most of the available Commanders. I decide to play Karax, Raynor, Alarak, Zagara, Stukov, Nova and Swann on the Steppes of Betrayal.
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StarCraft 2 is a military science fiction real-time strategy video game developed and released by Blizzard Entertainment for Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X. Legacy of the Void is the third and final part in the StarCraft 2 triology.
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@daburgerbandit1598
@daburgerbandit1598 7 жыл бұрын
This taught me just how much Amon must hate dealing with co-op players.
@ayoubp7689
@ayoubp7689 7 жыл бұрын
1v1 CO OP needs to be a thing man, it's better than normal mode
@makaramuss
@makaramuss 7 жыл бұрын
is it even co op like this :P
@biladusan
@biladusan 7 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, you help the ally.... by killing them.
@pancutirimicuaro
@pancutirimicuaro 7 жыл бұрын
Not that great since some of the comander are way more OP
@witchhat6829
@witchhat6829 7 жыл бұрын
it'll be a nightmare to balance it
@tonisuikki9934
@tonisuikki9934 7 жыл бұрын
+Verit Ance Who said it needs to be perfectly balanced? Take for example the old IMAB LEAGUE. That was fun even with a lot of balance issues.
@KingOfBlades27
@KingOfBlades27 7 жыл бұрын
Mission failed: You murdered your ally! xD
@randomthings8732
@randomthings8732 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Sorta8
@Sorta8 3 жыл бұрын
- Destroy Your Enemy! Mission Failed : you murdered your ally!
@5pentafive15
@5pentafive15 7 жыл бұрын
1. Choose Raynor. 2. Summon Hyperion. 3. Marine spam.
@JR-cr2zg
@JR-cr2zg 7 жыл бұрын
Wrong order, bro! 1. Choose Raynor 2. Spam marines 3. Calldown Duskwings, and Hyperion
@5pentafive15
@5pentafive15 7 жыл бұрын
They both work, I think...
@geckonerd3734
@geckonerd3734 5 жыл бұрын
@@JR-cr2zg I think the Hyperion should come first. It can appear anywhere on the map. Duskwings can only appear where you have vision.
@Nurk0m0rath
@Nurk0m0rath 5 жыл бұрын
@@geckonerd3734 And orbital drop pods don't need vision. Spam marines into the enemy's base and use them as vision for the dusk wings.
@geckonerd3734
@geckonerd3734 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nurk0m0rath Oh that's right! I totally forgot about that!
@thundersoul6795
@thundersoul6795 7 жыл бұрын
I love how "winning" fails the mission because "You murdered your ally". :D
@WXVA9
@WXVA9 7 жыл бұрын
Opponent at 19:15 didn't leave; you killed all his buildings! He didn't have time to gg!
@thedislikebutton9819
@thedislikebutton9819 3 жыл бұрын
Even before that I was thinking Lowko just F5 Karrigan to death but even that wasn't necessary
@CrazyDriver666
@CrazyDriver666 7 жыл бұрын
Weakest is Artanis. You give shields for your enemy xD
@wilfridberjot7860
@wilfridberjot7860 7 жыл бұрын
Валентин Жарков Yeah but is logical Artanis work with honor and don't betray... (Somewhere Zeratul is turning inside his grave)
@WaveDaBreaker
@WaveDaBreaker 7 жыл бұрын
Валентин Жарков my first game was me Karax vs an artanis😂 we both used spear of arum powers but all our probes survived😂
@albertbergquist2113
@albertbergquist2113 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's bugged in that the normal Ally abilities still is active even as enemies, as the ability to build on your opponents creep ... Still i like the idea, it could be fun with some small tweaks (like all abilities being 50% as effective)
@WaveDaBreaker
@WaveDaBreaker 7 жыл бұрын
It's not a bug,it's a feature ;)
@marcinkrocki8114
@marcinkrocki8114 7 жыл бұрын
eh, i won almos all arty games. 3gate +zealot rush :D
@adrianmalinowski1073
@adrianmalinowski1073 7 жыл бұрын
Pick Alarak Pylon rush Profit $$$
@sikamika9
@sikamika9 7 жыл бұрын
there is a faster commander
@FrostGiant91
@FrostGiant91 7 жыл бұрын
early expand and gg
@tonisuikki9934
@tonisuikki9934 7 жыл бұрын
This should be a normal map in the co-op pool. This is so sick and would love to play in the future aswell :O
@philip8498
@philip8498 7 жыл бұрын
well the commanders are not meant to fight each other its all about cheese and some commanders like Nova or alarak are just stupidly overpowered I dont think that many people would play this
@iglidor
@iglidor 7 жыл бұрын
Nova OP? How? She feels quite slow and has no early devastating abilities like banshee drop or apocalisk. With so much cheese, games are decided by time your hero unit spawns. Same problem for Kerrigan.
@philip8498
@philip8498 7 жыл бұрын
well as soon as nova spawns she can kill everything because shes cloaked with defense drones 4 marines and griffin airstrike Thats really really powerful
@tonisuikki9934
@tonisuikki9934 7 жыл бұрын
+Fußballgott TheDevilOP Its already not balanced, but its there so why not add it to somewhere else for the people who continue playing it? Also, I would believe cannon rush is faster than nova spawn timer. There are many op things in it of course, but hey who cares its fun for what it is ^^
@philip8498
@philip8498 7 жыл бұрын
Well i think it Would be very fun to continue playing that Too but it is very brutal playing against some commanders
@NagiShia
@NagiShia 7 жыл бұрын
I was the Nova that u went up against and you are puré evil :P still i was suprised playing against u and i just wanted to Try out the mode lol well it was Gg when i didint fly away with My stuff, did not think about it lol
@NagiShia
@NagiShia 7 жыл бұрын
Notice me lowko :P
@starkillerisbetterthanturt4191
@starkillerisbetterthanturt4191 7 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late but can you give proof?
@cranberry6460
@cranberry6460 6 жыл бұрын
Haha feels bad man
@user-vw2lr7ig8x
@user-vw2lr7ig8x 6 жыл бұрын
Sure.......
@surfyplayer8231
@surfyplayer8231 5 жыл бұрын
Rasmus Sundberg are you German?
@archangelliam7079
@archangelliam7079 3 жыл бұрын
Zealots: "My life for Aiur!" Lowko's probe: "Imma end this man's Career"
@SmoothyyAegwynn
@SmoothyyAegwynn 7 жыл бұрын
19:16 He didn't leave. He lost because he had no buildings left.
@haibigboy
@haibigboy 7 жыл бұрын
Which cheese does Switzerland have? Emmental Which cheese does Italy have? Casu Marzu Which cheese does the Netherlands have? Lowko
@Leap623
@Leap623 7 жыл бұрын
"I need to be ready for his Kerrigan" "He just left" Does Lowko not understand the loss conditions for a 1v1?
@JagDBD
@JagDBD 7 жыл бұрын
well you see when they leave you win there is no other way to win a game of sc2
@atomic5353
@atomic5353 6 жыл бұрын
no its the last structure, the spawning pool got killed
@SpacecraftNoob
@SpacecraftNoob 5 жыл бұрын
@@JagDBD you clearly dont know how the game works either...
@JagDBD
@JagDBD 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpacecraftNoob you heard of a joke before?
@user-zm3wq9eq8q
@user-zm3wq9eq8q 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpacecraftNoob WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSHHHH
@hammurabitheawesome674
@hammurabitheawesome674 7 жыл бұрын
The ending was golden. "What???" Lowko makes pokerface "Nothin."
@TheSquidPro
@TheSquidPro 3 жыл бұрын
I like to think this is how real Starcraft war plays out with stealthed ships bombing you non stop.
@cyronx1724
@cyronx1724 7 жыл бұрын
I love how it went from thinking over each leader's strengths and whatever and then turned into a cheese festival. Too good! xD
@sujezz
@sujezz 7 жыл бұрын
I really hoped someone would make that a thing where you can battle not as a race but as a commander.
@Spencer-qm6lj
@Spencer-qm6lj 7 жыл бұрын
scrolling through KZbin subs is like a minefield on April 1 you never know what's real or not ;-;
@TheOwlMan8850
@TheOwlMan8850 7 жыл бұрын
Spencer Nilsen True dat
@NathanCassidy721
@NathanCassidy721 7 жыл бұрын
Spencer Nilsen Tell me about it. One of the videos I have is Episode 1 of Freeman's Mind 2 and a bunch of people are confused on whether it's legit or not.
@tudorracheru1157
@tudorracheru1157 7 жыл бұрын
Spencer Nilsen good thing that lowko is legit
@justinthompson6364
@justinthompson6364 7 жыл бұрын
+Malphite the Shard of the Monolith Nah, it's all an elaborate prank with the Map editor and video editing software for the scorescreen. xD
@tudorracheru1157
@tudorracheru1157 7 жыл бұрын
Justin Thompson lol
@jasonpolinga2294
@jasonpolinga2294 7 жыл бұрын
Lowko you have got to do a gameplay for this mutation on every hero. Please.
@jasonpolinga2294
@jasonpolinga2294 7 жыл бұрын
Nvm haha
@rasmasyean
@rasmasyean 7 жыл бұрын
Lowko, you should make one where you don't invade each other's main and just let the minerals run out. This is a good opportunity to what the armies can do to each other in a drawn out game. It would also be fun to watch!
@rasmasyean
@rasmasyean 7 жыл бұрын
Or play a no calldown game. That might actually be interesting. :)
@sarahIcommented
@sarahIcommented 7 жыл бұрын
SPOILERS: Alarak kills them all.
@balenar3028
@balenar3028 7 жыл бұрын
You can rush without call downs try using swann and just rush with ten scv to build flaming Betty's in their base
@adrian3482
@adrian3482 7 жыл бұрын
I did about 20 of these against nearly all other commanders (including Raynor and Karax) as Abathur. Won every game. Just drop a few mines in his base. Drop a few spine crawlers on the creep the mines make to take out survivors. With Abathurs mastery spine crawlers morph in just a few seconds.
@Ranindoras
@Ranindoras 7 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard at the Airstrike at the last game. That was hillarious! Ballanced or not, this should be a permanent feature, it would be super interesting to see a meta game evolve from this! ;)
@ItsOver97
@ItsOver97 7 жыл бұрын
I hope this mutation becomes a real thing, like a pvp commander vs commander
@zaklarc6441
@zaklarc6441 6 жыл бұрын
every one rush early trash technique its pathetic , there's no fun to see this
@Scried256
@Scried256 4 жыл бұрын
It's Over! There is a coop 4v4 in arcade
@animewanderer41
@animewanderer41 7 жыл бұрын
And you always complain about how people immediately cheese when they recognize you XD
@mozxz
@mozxz 6 жыл бұрын
Fight fire with Pylon rushes and a Apokalisk =)
@hexadecimal5236
@hexadecimal5236 4 жыл бұрын
His Cheese is so funny tho.
@blitzkrieg8776
@blitzkrieg8776 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly Coop commanders in a melee match would be fun, might have to make it a 2vs2 though considering some of their abilities are primarily support.
@ThornMu
@ThornMu 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a 2v2 Objective Co-Op, not actually fighting each other (literally unable to damage each other unless they are in your base, then you can damage them via Attack command to prevent body blocking), but competing for which team can complete the objective better/faster. Both teams do want to complete the objective, because if it fails, everyone fails, but the team that does the most/best gets a bonus.
@Nitroso_0
@Nitroso_0 5 жыл бұрын
OMG dude i'm in tears!!! That was golden, "Pure evil" You are the best.
@aurelianolorente7674
@aurelianolorente7674 7 жыл бұрын
this needs to be a thing, it would be unbalaced as hell, but so fun
@callslightning
@callslightning 7 жыл бұрын
Love the Firefly reference in the mutation title! :D
@Lark88
@Lark88 7 жыл бұрын
Lets see if i can take this from memory.... Stegosaurus: ...And we shall call it ...This Land T-rex: And I think I will call it your grave! Stegosaurus: Ah! Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! T-rex: Mine is an evil laugh!
@C10Build
@C10Build 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, those were GREAT! I would have loved to see some of their faces, especially when the Griffin Strike evaporated all those probes. Freaking funny as S&#%&#%T!!!!
@LowkoTV
@LowkoTV 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like such a bully.
@traveler1238
@traveler1238 6 жыл бұрын
you should xD you should ^^
@darwinrodriguez5485
@darwinrodriguez5485 4 жыл бұрын
Co-op player: being nice to Lowko Lowko: *So anyway, I started cheesing*
@Mercurysama
@Mercurysama 7 жыл бұрын
Had the most fun in month with this. But to be honest: Its cheese, cheese, cheese. Played ~ 20 games with this co-op today and only the guys, which played it first time tried the "normal" build-up. And they lost. Badly. My first game started with "no cheese" from my opponent and 10 seconds later he sky-bombed my mineral-line to bits. "Thats my way of cheese". Well... in my opinion Swann is one of the beste. Why? - Build factory not in your base, together with one supply depot. - send 3-4 workers to turret-attack your enemys base. At this time, you got sky-bombed or cannon rushed. Mostly you can run for your money. If not, you still have the factory. - In most cases, the enemy kills your turret attack, but he uses up his special abilitys. - Send in one worker or one unit from factory to get vision, send in the Ares to murderkill everything. Your laser will help. You also can fly around your factory to get vision. If you didnt kill everything, stay low wait for next Ares drop... And i wont even start with Raynor... build 2 barracks, assault-drop from orbit, and if you realy, realy want him dead... wait for banshees... and maybe your big bad battleship to yamato-gun the last guy in the rubble of the enemy base. Ballanced? Hell no. Funny? Oh my god, yes.
@Unrated7
@Unrated7 7 жыл бұрын
Okay that first match I was actually laughing out loud!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@NagiShia
@NagiShia 7 жыл бұрын
Unrated 7 i got destroyed in that match lol
@Unrated7
@Unrated7 7 жыл бұрын
Ha! Looked like a ton of fun for sure!
@operationstratos1013
@operationstratos1013 7 жыл бұрын
Unrated 7 This mode stinks of Cheese! XDXDXD
@idarwik8608
@idarwik8608 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to tobu and watching lowko is a vibe on another level
@ExceedProduction
@ExceedProduction 5 жыл бұрын
With Karax, you can potentially snipe your opponents entire stock of drones with one lucky shot. Literally a 1 second win.
@Med2881
@Med2881 7 жыл бұрын
OMFG This co-op was amazing I CAN'T BELEVE I MISSED OUT PLAYING IT!!!!!! :''''(
@deathcraft2299
@deathcraft2299 7 жыл бұрын
Med2881 me too
@MrShinydude
@MrShinydude 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so sad I wasn't playing SC2 coop when this happened. This video made it look so fun.
@wilfridberjot7860
@wilfridberjot7860 7 жыл бұрын
I remember when lowko was asking what will happen if commander were playable in classical game... well this is the answer
@renatocorreaarrieche
@renatocorreaarrieche 6 жыл бұрын
One way it could be done in order to not make it absurdly cheese is fill the map with hostile npc. There will be real engagement and plenty of evolution for players.
@WXVA9
@WXVA9 6 жыл бұрын
The sound effect for the Griffin Airstrike plus the ridiculous number of bombs is fucking hilarious.
@jwmmitch
@jwmmitch 2 жыл бұрын
Dude! That air strike on the mineral line was the perfect way to end it
@TheOwlMan8850
@TheOwlMan8850 7 жыл бұрын
OMG THIS MUTATION IS AMAZING
@twodudeplayingame6704
@twodudeplayingame6704 7 жыл бұрын
This was by far the best video ive seen from your channel
@kylecampbell2164
@kylecampbell2164 7 жыл бұрын
21:34 I was just waiting for cliff jumping zerglings to run right past the wall :P
@Chaod789
@Chaod789 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that infest building and apocalysk, your reaction was friggin hilarious.
@benb1422
@benb1422 4 жыл бұрын
NO WAY THIS WAS 3 YEARS AGO jesus im so old
@bananas6984
@bananas6984 7 жыл бұрын
With swann u could rush defense in ur opponents base since multiple scvs can work on one structure
@terithrow3214
@terithrow3214 Жыл бұрын
i love it. please make more contents like this one because its more fun that the usual 3 races
@xblafren
@xblafren 7 жыл бұрын
MMM the SC1 music is the BOMB in the background.
@aaronisaiah84
@aaronisaiah84 7 жыл бұрын
@lowko, just did this week brutal mutation in 1 try. 1 advice if u using Zerg or stukov in particular, ur overlords will drop like flies. So it's best if u build 2 command centers to replace losses.
@shermuhammadkhan3383
@shermuhammadkhan3383 7 жыл бұрын
this video was amazing ! , always wanted to see a co-op commander face-off , and this was like my dream come true , had exams so i couldn't play it myself ( actually I'm relatively new to starcraft too , xD ) love your content lowko , been watching​ you for almost a year now , this was just hilarious , keep up the good work man !
@halonut96
@halonut96 7 жыл бұрын
And this is why I play karax
@SeriousApache
@SeriousApache 5 жыл бұрын
Playing against Raynor... Me: "He must know that Hyperion does not require vision to call down" Lowko: 12:46
@feaglor
@feaglor 7 жыл бұрын
the most fun I had in a long time
@williamjubi
@williamjubi 4 жыл бұрын
Wish they'd make General Warfield for this mode. His arm cannon would be a cool feature. Also, a call back to the first SC with General Duke in his tank would be cool too.
@QuestionableObject
@QuestionableObject 6 жыл бұрын
It's a shame they won't be able to do another of these without banning some commanders, everyone'll just know that Karax is unbeatable, just orbitals your mineral line and makes it so you can't do anything. Maybe a 2v2 mode could be possible.
@ThaChicken
@ThaChicken 7 жыл бұрын
Lowko, you really lacked that sneaky side that made this mutation so incredibly fun. Like with raynor, simply cheesing with 3 racks at the start and non-stop drops is pretty much almost unstopable. Swann, you can use multiple SCV's to build things. So you can literally use 5 SCVs to build your factory almost instantly, nobody has anything out and then take those same SCVs to the enemy base and build some flaming betty's in their fund line in just a few seconds and with karax, well, at least you saw you can 1 shot their base right at the start :D
@zxKAOS1
@zxKAOS1 4 жыл бұрын
17:14 oh that's cute... Drones still benefit from Karax' Unity Barrier :D
@damiendurakovic843
@damiendurakovic843 5 жыл бұрын
That last cheese was disgustingly amazing. I laughed my ass off.
@Grazzxx
@Grazzxx 5 жыл бұрын
they need to make this 1v1 and 2v2 all year long
@WereWade
@WereWade 7 жыл бұрын
How deviously fun! Now I wish I had played a "Coop" game yesterday. Thanks for the laughts and game!
@zeelavader5373
@zeelavader5373 7 жыл бұрын
i wish this was a everyday thing u can do wwith co-op commanders :(
@AlarakTheHighLord
@AlarakTheHighLord 7 жыл бұрын
they need to make this an official game mode
@xelnagaprime_1071
@xelnagaprime_1071 4 жыл бұрын
Melee mods buddy
@dogman_2733
@dogman_2733 7 жыл бұрын
One guy tried cannon rushing me as Artanis, I was playing Nova. He built a few cannons but I got the 700 minerals and landed my marines with a defensive drone. He immediately left.
@JD867
@JD867 7 жыл бұрын
Won against Vorazun as Stukov. The DT's walked in, but I made 5 missile turrets and two bunkers. Most of my defenses were rekt, but he stopped to engage them and ran out of time. Then the overlord dropped infestations on the Nexus and an Apocalysk erupted in his base, and it was all over.
@TheOwlMan8850
@TheOwlMan8850 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, get it? LADDER map? STTEPPES of betrayal?
@jmmendoza6553
@jmmendoza6553 7 жыл бұрын
Lowko my friend MY INTERNET CANT HANDLE HD QUALITY
@TrairFrair
@TrairFrair 7 жыл бұрын
very entertaining view, so glad you tried a variety of commanders and... approaches. that nova bomb run was epic, and the orbital bombardment
@cronk3468
@cronk3468 4 жыл бұрын
They should do Co Op versus. They should make a versus mode utilizing the abilities/upgrades from the Campaigns. They should use all of the game's potential.
@kirkbjr
@kirkbjr 6 жыл бұрын
The reaction to the Apocalisk was priceless...I had to rewind and watch again lol
@CRX2200
@CRX2200 7 жыл бұрын
That was a lot more fun than I would've thought :D
@Gunmetal_Wolf
@Gunmetal_Wolf 7 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge, you can over charge a warping in structure as Alarak. Unless that was changed in the recent patch. I haven't played him in a while but I seem to recall thinking "that's ... kinda weird and broken" But you don't get the full range due to limited vision.
@JP-nf6lx
@JP-nf6lx 7 жыл бұрын
This was one of lowkos best videos.
@Mr.Hydralisk
@Mr.Hydralisk 7 жыл бұрын
On SWANN, You need to spam on his base Combat Drop, Hellbat, Goliath and Devastation Turret. GG. (More weaker is probably ARTANIS, because It easy to evade Orbital Strike and Solar Bombardment)
@davidexley979
@davidexley979 7 жыл бұрын
He can sometimes do okay with warping in zealots into enemy base, but unfortunately he does give the other person invincibility shields at one health.
@Neoste
@Neoste 7 жыл бұрын
The only time when you're having fun when someone cheese
@rbotnevik
@rbotnevik 7 жыл бұрын
That griffin airstrike at the end was just to funny xD
@Nurk0m0rath
@Nurk0m0rath 7 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how Lowko keeps talking about having to survive until his army can get going, but doesn't actually focus on defense. The one time he does, it's against Kerrigan who can easily overpower early game defenses. He also ignores missile turret detection options when going against nova and vorazun. Honestly if they wanted to make this type of game fair and level the playing field between commanders, there would have to be a global cooldown on commander abilities that doesn't allow any commander-specific abilities to be employed for, say, 3-4 minutes. That includes Raynor's drop pods, Swann's laser drill, and everything orbital ability. Earlier cheese would then be limited to unit production the same as the regular game. But, even that doesn't *fully* cover balancing, because there are too many overpowered units and abilities, and certain commanders would simply be too strong. Kerrigan for instance would overwhelm opponents with fast, cliff-jumping +2 attack zerglings who can easily pop out before she does. The other alternative I can see is preventing players from leaving their own base (possibly with an expansion to take) for a certain period of time while each builds their base and forces for the fight ahead.
@blablub1990
@blablub1990 7 жыл бұрын
that was just awesome :D cant stop laughing when the mineral line gets blown up with one ability :D
@JC-dz5ur
@JC-dz5ur 7 жыл бұрын
backstab mode, activated. The reason Blizzard can have some outlandish units for co-op b/c it's Comp Stomp. But when they attempt PVP in this mode, they will have a nightmare on their hand. Standard RANKED games are as hard to balance as it is for regular units. Now imagine with all the outlandish units in Co-Op mode turn to PVP.
@jondeoliveira8248
@jondeoliveira8248 7 жыл бұрын
James Chau yes, but the SC2 multiplayer scene is dying already, so they might aswell do it and let people have fun with the OP.
@justinthompson6364
@justinthompson6364 7 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, some commanders depend on their ally to cover moments of weakness. I would have preferred 2v2.
@justinthompson6364
@justinthompson6364 7 жыл бұрын
I always thought it would be cool if certain select campaign units and maybe research could be included in melee.
@mylesprospero8105
@mylesprospero8105 7 жыл бұрын
19:16 he didnt left, you just destroyed all of the buildings
@knellycornnan5132
@knellycornnan5132 7 жыл бұрын
Many people are saying they wish this was this co-commands pvp was a thing. It technically is right now. There is multiple extension mods that allow such pvp and of course this mode.
@TheHawianer
@TheHawianer 6 жыл бұрын
what are the names of these mods of which you speak of???
@knellycornnan5132
@knellycornnan5132 6 жыл бұрын
Ground Unit Battles Faction Warfare and Allied Commanders are two of the best that I know of. Ground Unit Battles Faction Warefare has many more units than in co-op and is set in faction, but not hero. Its much more pvp focused and much newer. Allied Commanders Melee was actually released by Blizzard as a mod version of co-op then tweeked alot by the modding community with many variations of it existing. It is basically a replication of co-op, but more focused on PVE. There is also that mutator that allows people to do pvp.
@firedragon159
@firedragon159 4 жыл бұрын
quick tip, you can actually overcharge buildings while they are warping in as well.
@retrospect6904
@retrospect6904 6 жыл бұрын
"lowko your disgusting, that was gross" had me laughing pretty good
@snootbooper467
@snootbooper467 7 жыл бұрын
From the number of times he said it, I don't think Lowko anticipated anything
@axelistant
@axelistant 7 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! I've been waiting for this kind of mutation for so longggg.
@brandon7210
@brandon7210 5 жыл бұрын
i love the sc1 soundtrack so nostalgic
@truthert
@truthert 7 жыл бұрын
My first win was against a Raynor, who lifted off, and i was forced to make air to get him, but he was too late with the first banshee attack, because i had my second hatchery down already.
@unerkannterGeisteskranker
@unerkannterGeisteskranker 7 жыл бұрын
it is so unfair. It is my birthday and I am never be able to do all this Aprilfoolsday stuff. I have to clean and prep for the friends and family. just not fair.
@LowkoTV
@LowkoTV 7 жыл бұрын
That's too bad! But belated Happy Birthday!
@TheHawianer
@TheHawianer 6 жыл бұрын
This sounds dope af. i wanna see how fenix, dekha, and the horners handle this.
@TROWAPETER
@TROWAPETER 7 жыл бұрын
probably be a good idea to set some restrictions depending on the difficulty level chosen . something like random commander on brutal gonna make it more fun.
@YourPalHDee
@YourPalHDee 7 жыл бұрын
commander vs commander has been a mode I wanted for aaaaaages.
@essentialpassion
@essentialpassion 4 жыл бұрын
This is so cool, but to beat the imbalance they should make maps specifically for co-op pvp. Make the home bases inaccessible by any ground and air forces, including the call down hero units. It can be done by creating an air/ground block, which could be destroyed by killing a structure which is just outside the main base. The structure should be a 1x1 grid like a watch tower, with many hit points, which should give enough time for all the commanders to make an army/defense. The blockade only works for opponent units, so you can still get out in the map just not in opponent's home base. As armies grow they can destroy the blockade structure and win the game.
@countdeville4146
@countdeville4146 7 жыл бұрын
That first game was disgusting oh and by the way in the game were you made the DT joke the opponents name is german and translates roughtly to "Maneater" JK i liked it but karma got you on the second one and the third
@Jbn0s0rus
@Jbn0s0rus 7 жыл бұрын
Vengeance for Micbra!
@NagiShia
@NagiShia 7 жыл бұрын
Jbn0s0rus lol i know i Played bad, i should have flew away with My stuff. He cut the coop tho i killes alarak and his units, i think i could win that but i let him get the win. I am also not a pro so i knew from the begining that i would be destroyed
@NagiShia
@NagiShia 7 жыл бұрын
Clip not coop
@NewTypeDilemma01
@NewTypeDilemma01 7 жыл бұрын
My choices of highlights: 3:05 8:36 and 8:49 12:46 17:15 22:45 26:16 31:35 Also, I love how it says "Defeat" even though your objective is to actually eliminate the other player. If this were actually a full-time game mode, too many of the commanders would be broken, as demonstrated through your use of Stukov and Alarak. By guesswork alone, I'd say that Kerrigan, Abathur, Swann, and Nova (to a *far* lesser extent, depending on the opponent) are the only ones that *won't* seriously ruin your game right out of the gate; Kerrigan needs time to spawn, Swann's laser drill needs time to power up, Abathur doesn't have a lot of good early game units (though does have strong ground defense), and Nova is mineral intensive enough to where her bombing runs have little utility until late game (assuming you can survive that long).
@StigmADiabolicuM666
@StigmADiabolicuM666 7 жыл бұрын
Now this was a blast, took em long to put this out tho!
@laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
@laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag 6 жыл бұрын
OMG how could I miss this mode last year!
@NejatMolla
@NejatMolla 7 жыл бұрын
How to defeat early karax bullshit; - Pick kerrigan - Send 2 drones in the 2 corners of the map and then take expansions there - He's gonna come, cannon rush or whatever, he's gonna destroy your base and then be confused - When Kerrigan is out send her to his base and kill everything
@kadindarklord
@kadindarklord 5 жыл бұрын
There is a game mode ingame that requires a small purchase and friends on the app. It has this feature permanently. You can even go 3v3.
@geckonerd3734
@geckonerd3734 4 жыл бұрын
Looking back at this, Mengsk would be overpowered for this. Instant bunkers or even Dogs of War would be so powerful.
@keyemku6399
@keyemku6399 7 жыл бұрын
the worst is playing Artanis, using all of your orbital strikes, then realizing your passive ability shielded them all from death.
@arnehenkler8391
@arnehenkler8391 7 жыл бұрын
I totally wrecked Vorazun with Artanis. Built 3 Gateways and just kept on dropping Zealots in her base, before she could get any army up. Didn't even notice my shield on her probes.
@keyemku6399
@keyemku6399 7 жыл бұрын
Arne Henkler yeah, I actually managed to win against a level 14 alarak when i was level 6 artanis, it's just infuriating when it happens.
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