LS | ANOTHER REVERSE SWEEP IN THE FINALS? C9 vs TL ft. Nemesis and Crownie

[@sevenaries]

The amount of times I hear "the game's over" and then something happens and it's not over and then a misplay happens and they say "game's over" again

[@Vendrix86]

@@Weirdbrit LS also overexaggerates every fucking time. He thinks a single play means game is over. So overrated.

[@TheArrivalCyberse]

@@Vendrix86 He doesn't over exaggerate, all in all in a perfectly played game if they do everything right to the best of their capabilities then it should be over.

[@Vendrix86]

@@TheArrivalCyberse he does this every time though. He overexaggerates and is surprised every damn time game isn't over at 8 min. The guy is a moron.

[@TheArrivalCyberse]

@@Vendrix86 He's most likely doing it every game to either show how incompetent teams are at capitalizing on these situations or to add some extra flare to the stream because these tournaments can be fairly boring.

[@bohanxu6125]

LS is a good example of being at the bad end of dunning kruger curve...

[@NickMK]

"It's over team A wins" "Oh ok now it's over team B is gonna win" "No wait..."

[@noahdelacalzada7824]

"It's actually over, there's no coming back from this"

[@saki1333]

Found the bronze player

[@vitru9470]

First time watching LCS?

[@8spec]

*midlaner gets drafted* LS: cries

[@jakobj58]

it's over

[@rianrodrigues8195]

Every single time. Regardless of what champion it is.

[@svenvanveenschool]

@@rianrodrigues8195 Pretty sure he didn't say it when they picked the right Midlaner like tf? So not regardless of what champ.

[@th-mb6qs]

@@svenvanveenschool It's literally like 80% of the time..

[@alohaxgffgfg]

@@th-mb6qs to be fair, most midlane champs are absolute dogshit compared to those of other roles, especially in pro play

[@Ter0zak]

"in lck generally when the game is over is actually over" T1 throwing game 2 vs Afreeca the next day lol

[@danielnowak6504]

Every 60 seconds a minute passes in africa

[@jackbreuhaus6244]

@@danielnowak6504 Wrong meme use

[@_Aze]

"This is not good for GP, because of what happens, in a couple of minutes, I'm not even trolling" A few moments later Fudge: *dies*

[@ReZzTM]

isnt that because fudge sucks

[@ljjebi]

Fudge is always weakside

[@vitru9470]

I’m fudges Defense he played the Lane well however his jungles should have been pathing top instead he goes for a midgank into azir which amounts to nothing.

[@acsu96]

I like hearing Crownshot's opinions, he provides some different perspective on bot lane matchups and mindset in game when behind. Also on the whole I was disappointed by Fudge's play this tournament, but at least one of those Irelia plays was pretty hype, so maybe that's a glimpse into the Fudge hype from acad

[@tntkaboomsky7427]

I think fudge is still in his teens? I’m not sure what people expected from C9 overhyping him a bit but definitely a learning experience on his part. He has time to spare to go out a clap the top landers in NA I’m just miffed people were going all in on fudge for being a rookie

[@azelynhirano]

It just shows that Fudge might be more towards a carry Top player, and C9 management wants him to use the tournament to get used to other matchups

[@luminous3558]

@@tntkaboomsky7427 fudge isn't a rookie, he played and won 2 seasons of opl/ocs and even went to worlds. He is new to NA lcs but has plenty of experience both on stage and in a team environment. Him and perkz should both be playing better but they aren't for now. I hope they can ramp up as the season progresses because that team is really strong on paper.

[@davidwellmann4985]

feel like he got better over the tournament

[@Blako97]

While fudge wasn't great on the whole, in the first 4 games he did well. Got trolled by blaber giving double buffs to Camille G1. Had a solid G2 as karma game into a terrible draft. Did his job as a malphite in G3. Good irelia G4 and just blew it G5. Overall lock in sure he wasn't great. But finals was not due to him

[@austinmiller3495]

Love this content LS

[@arcticfoxes8034]

The fact that LS thought that first trade was winning for fudge in game 5 is ridiculous. It forced him to back with 0 gold, his wave wasn't in a good spot, even with the casters surviving he got zoned off a whole level worth of minions so he was permanently at a level disadvantage for the rest of the lane.

[@kretzschi5000]

LS makes his statements always based on how it should be but what he doesnt get is that things can go different. but what i didnt understand, in wich dimension is TLs Game 3 draft better than C9s even TL thought its doomed. if your Syndra and aphelios get oneshot by malph you cant do anything.

[@heyst13]

I think it’s cuz LS and Fudge practiced this exact trade before, and LS so pleased to see it happen in game he assumed it would be favourable

[@Reia.P]

@@kretzschi5000 I think without Olaf the C9 draft will be way weaker. GP can scale freely and get easy access to back line in teamfights, Aphelios Thresh should be very oppressive in lane and get ahead, Graves has smoke screen to stop the back line damages when Malphine ults in. But then the Olaf is such a strong pick that he can just run into Aphelios Syndra through peels and still have a Tahm backing him up. If not the Olaf Zoe will have a difficult time to look for angles then the team has very low damage overall. I think LS is often rating champs like Olaf, Renekton and Gnar too much lower than they should, giving the fact that they are easier to execute than on-paper stronger champs like GP but teams and players have harder time to utilize.

[@senji1912]

Clearly Top Diff . Seriously Alphari and CoreJJ doin so much work

[@darks02]

I don't even play league anymore but this is too entertaining

[@Joedirt32]

Same lol I rather keep my mental health than play leauge again, fun watching it though

[@Cutton_Candy76]

@@Joedirt32 and here i am. I installed the game today after watching all the T1 games for the past 1,5 years and I really enjoy it. 😂😂😂

[@keroroguns0867]

Same here, but that’s cuz my computer broke (well it’s a laptop so it was bound to happen). Well, don’t actually plan on playing again actually, I enjoy watching it more now.

[@Cutton_Candy76]

@@keroroguns0867 Ah, my system was broke too, but I upgraded it for like 400 500 bucks and now is fine and I can play lol. I also love to watch it, but playing it is something else!

[@nikolazivkovic114]

Same here man the game at one point becomes a mental torture and a toll on the body its not worth it but this shit is entertainung as fuck ls an nemesis are comedic duo

[@NickMK]

I gotta say, I got totally baited by the title. I didn't see the series live so I kept watching to see the reverse sweep. Well played LS

[@imsorrythankyouplease7613]

Any time the title of a video, article, etc. is a question, I assume the answer is No.

[@boshamburger123]

@@imsorrythankyouplease7613 same, it is a good rule of thumb to follow

[@rayaqin]

@@boshamburger123 don't search for 'is the Earth round' then

[@muffincopnoicingforme8220]

I never thought i'd hear people say the phrase "udyr is too strong" in pro play. And like aatrox before him, he gonna get a vgu. Everytime a former troll pick get play in pro it get a vgu. Fuckin wat riot

[@marmotank]

thats because they buff champions like crazy before giving a vgu, i guess because it wont have repercusions for long since its gonna get changed anyway

[@luminous3558]

Udyr is either op or useless, his design allows for nothing inbetween.

[@PB-hr3hy]

@@luminous3558 but isn't it the same for all champ? You win you are op you lose you are trash

[@yuumi1249]

@@luminous3558 Udyr can be ballanced if they lower his ms by 5 and AD by 3. Literally these 2 chages will do wonders. He clears way to fast and IS to fast to be kiteable.

[@luminous3558]

@@yuumi1249 Yes and if he is balanced then nobody will ever pick him again since you could play a champ with an actual kit instead.

[@aldarian7576]

18:54 This was so crazy, Syndra hit 6 the literal moment that Zoe went in, and was able to R her and trade back and ALMOSTTT kill, and then the GP would have 100% killed if Zoe hadn't RNG'd a Ghostblade out of literally every single other option in that scenario except maybe a second Stridebreaker.

[@jhiyu]

I dont know who edits these videos, but my lord, ur doing ur such a good job

[@EdelesTTRPG]

It says it at the start of the vid.

[@jhiyu]

@@EdelesTTRPG oooooh, im dumb, thanks! :/

[@ensiemen9836]

'its not lucky its minion RNG' RNG Random Number Generator

[@PhantomRAQ50]

Which can be manipulated (bc computers can't actually be random) but idk about this case

[@1611kenny]

@@PhantomRAQ50 they can be but its much easier to just use a seed like the system time for example.

[@grggarro1]

Can't blame him tbh, the word RNG has taken a meaning on it's own outside of being the acronym

[@SoundwaveSurfing]

*Uzi has entered the chat

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

i mean what else would you call it? minion targeting %? minion setups?

[@ajyee4754]

Captain flowers reaction at 17:04

[@D1L1vidz]

Right LS has been saying that his relationship with fudge doesn't affect the way he talks about him but fudge gets solo killed by gnar top lane (after the game 2 is over - fair enough) and he doesn't say a word but perkz takes a bad trade or messes up his lane and yet that is the biggest int in the world (just 1 example). Like if LS just came out and said "ya fudge is my friend and I am not going to flame/ heavily criticize him on stream then most reasonable people would be like fair enough, I think. I get that LS feels fudge is being targeted by the lcs "fans" heavily when he shouldn't be flamed so hard and I agree with him that at some stages it wasn't fudges fault for him falling behind but LS saying that he is not biased even a small bit is clearly not true.

[@maciejs100]

Who cares bruh. Thats why Nemesis and Crownie are there

[@D1L1vidz]

@@maciejs100 ya I suppose. I am basically just saying I wish he'd just come out and say it. As a perkz fan I'm also just a bit butthurt when he goes after my guy as hard as he does. Haha

[@KagedDJ]

@@D1L1vidz that’s fair, good on you recognizing you’re just emotional because he goes after your favorite player. That’s a rare quality.

[@youtubehero8633]

Perkz is world class talent and fudge is a rookie from academy. Its not unreal to hold perks to a higher standard this is a game he should win

[@ouroborus6951]

@@youtubehero8633 I would not say this makes a difference, if you would let play perkz with an Bronze Jungle and the Jungle gets behind I would agree but they are all pros and so you have to criticise all of them the same. But in the same you can not say something like, C9 only wins or looses because of one player a series. I mean maybe one game but not 5 games in a row.

[@matthewmoon6275]

Someone get a counter for how many times the phrase "It's over" was said in this video. Bet you it was more than the amount of times Tyler1 has typed /ff

[@rayaqin]

I think a counter would be a really good idea. Also another counter that counts contradictions and when they are wrong. Would be a good comedic choice imo.

[@Patraquashe]

OH BOY, OH MY! Time for another epic match commentary video.

[@mountingfailure2309]

Hope all LS stans saw his commentary on Irelia's lv 1 trade. He didn't know shit. He set up a pro-player for failure. He was so up his own ass, that until Irelia Bd he didn't even realise that the whole lane was fucked. And then when he did, it was all deflection. Can you remember one time he has admitted to being wrong? For making a mistake?

[@eduard_kuchynka]

i would like to know what elo are u playing in, Irelia is clearly winning the trade 9/10 times when she Qs the melee cs like that. Fudge clearly made small mistake which is the 1/10 scenario where clearly you can see he first canceled one of his AA which led to later proc of conc where the GP was out of range for another AA from Irelia which would have been buffed with her passive, healed him and on top of that it made him to click from to back so he was in awkward spacing alowing the GP to trade back with 2 Qs instead of 1Q therefore Fudge lost the trade copletely. But I guess you can't actaully go back and watch the small mistake because it really was abt 1 aa cancel and back click.

[@uxie6177]

@@eduard_kuchynka Yeah, the cancelled auto does make a pretty big difference there.

[@ge1ber919]

I have notice that LS never explains anything but its funny this content

[@yessum44]

Because if he had to rationalize everything then people could question him. That would ruin his "I know everything about the game and I'm never wrong" image.

[@ge1ber919]

@@yessum44 probably, yes

[@Elena-gj6ow]

It's been getting worse, it's all about playing up the emotion now. Just making hyperbolic statements for shock value. No real substance to this, sadly. Watching DL's costreams was refreshing, he'd at least explain his thought process, and even at times change his mind after thinking about it. I can't remember LS changing his mind once, ever lol. Always doubling down, but won't actually explain why. But hey, whatever makes you successful I guess.

[@luminous3558]

Because every situation requires way too much explaining to be fit for a stream. Viewers lack the basic understanding of most match ups and concepts so all that needs to be explained before any single situation can be looked at. Because viewers lack the gameknowledge to follow along the simplified explanations it becomes a "I trust LS and his understanding of the game" or a "I don't trust LS and think he is a poser just out for views". Nemesis and LS talked about this and how its a big issue multiple times on stream.

[@yessum44]

@@Weirdbrit DL makes just as many insightful comments as LS. LS just moans and groans about how bad everything is, DL actually points out thing that are done well and quickly explains why. His explanations take no longer than a few seconds. LS knows a lot about League, but most of the time he's complaining to be entertaining, not because there's a reason to complain.

[@NKVale]

Yo I got banned from the discord the day after I joined without saying anything. Any chance I’d be able to be unbanned?

[@ivailoivanov01]

THIS SERIES WAS SO GOOD

[@onlygalactic1744]

Love when he reviews games

[@MFeyBlizzard]

Next time could you include the draft phase? i think it would be very cool and learning

[@GodSpeed27000]

Why was kench the one farming bot lane when it was senna and kench?

[@heinzarniaung2915]

prob starving senna strat

[@richardt952]

Who did they say is the best top at 32:15?

[@alphonsolidi2563]

Rascal

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

from KT

[@MatrixWorker]

Good shit ls u should do this for all games u co str3am 💚💚💚

[@anomalyNC]

Tl and C9 again in the Finals. Is the all NA can do?

[@PB-hr3hy]

I meant what else do you expect? Top eSports or T1 or g2 in the finals?

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

@@Weirdbrit wouldn't it be closer to nothing achieved? i mean outside of domestic competition?

[@ghosthookcc2050]

take a shot every time one of them says "the game is over" or "its over"

[@viniciuslima8114]

how did c9 got 2nd drake in game 3, the video does not show, zoe dies and c9 takes drake (?)

[@proghostbusters1627]

People mocking the "it's over" not understanding he assumes semi-sound play xd

[@caleblol2340]

Is Max Waldo actually doing the drafts?

[@denisdebenis]

no

[@smitty7326]

thumbs up for the non-spoiler title

[@SrMonillo]

I like the... Somewhat in-depth analysis that your channel provides but your keyboard is like the fastest and sloppiest squid ever to be in existence...

[@LazyLee]

2020 was a rough year. 2021 may be worse. But I see the light at the end of the tunnel when I see enterpreneurs like Nemesis and Crownshot supporting smaller streamers without asking for anything in return. I have faith in humanity and I will now subscrime to them with my twitch prime. I encourage you to do the same.

[@Unbelievableone1987]

Ive been having nightmares with crying teddy bears lately ;)

[@raphaelambrosiuscosteau829]

So LS coaches Fudge huh? I thought why doesn't he criticize him. "Really small mistakes" btw

[@luminous3558]

He said fudge is the worst performing player on c9. Just because he doesn't flame him 24/7 like DL doesn't mean he is biased. People pushing narratives way too hard from just 1 meaningless tournament.

[@eduard_kuchynka]

i would like to know what elo are u playing in, Irelia is clearly winning the trade 9/10 times when she Qs the melee cs like that. Fudge clearly made small mistake which is the 1/10 scenario where clearly you can see he first canceled one of his AA which led to later proc of conc where the GP was out of range for another AA from Irelia which would have been buffed with her passive, healed him and on top of that it made him to click from to back so he was in awkward spacing alowing the GP to trade back with 2 Qs instead of 1Q therefore Fudge lost the trade copletely. But I guess you can't actaully go back and watch the small mistake because it really was abt 1 aa cancel and back click.

[@dawgyv72]

Idk man, this is all starting to feel like LS's meme of "I could literally say anything and you all think it's true even though it's absolutely false". I feel like these 3 guys really lost touch of the game, had some good knowledge before, but have absolutely no idea whats going on anymore but people still think they make sense.

[@Toromja]

???

[@flobbyrobbo2889]

What makes u think they have lost touch, most of the things they say are just logical things people dont do like not taking inhib for the sake of inhib

[@Reia.P]

Something logically true doesn’t mean that it is gonna be the reality. Because logics and analysis are, after all, very subjective. They always make statements like “A team has no chance of winning with this draft” “the game is over” but reality says no, because either they’re wrong, or because we’re not in a perfect world I don’t think most people lack the ability to do judgements ourselves anyways while times and times in history we are proven to be obedient to authorities and powerful figures no matter what. After all it’s not the controversy of the century but some random young dudes ranting on video games, if to put it in a bad way. Truth or not I found it entertaining, and that’s all I needed from them.

[@anomalyNC]

Crownie answer like a grade schooler answering his teachers question

[@Rodrigo-yq9yd]

keep it up with this content

[@danialhayati2779]

Edit is nice. Keep going

[@Johnherold121]

0:00 dude what's the point of blurring the scoreboard while leaving the map and the screen wide open? if you wanted to avoid spoiling, you'd blur everything

[@SrMonillo]

Everyone is getting launch-ed!

[@TJskillz169]

Know what... that first hook on Senna? that was actually disgustingly timed, and I can't blame tahm for not eating her in time. The minions infront of her were all at just the right hp as Kai'sa Q'ed, and the hook was already flying out before the minions were even dead. That was just grade A disgusting by CoreJJ.

[@GothPaoki]

Is that c9 Nuguri top????

[@PassivesAbseits]

The guys that flame pro players for trying something desperate in certainly lost games, are the same guys that stay in the fountain with both Summoners and Ult up in Solo Que and then go "Oh, but I got a 4-1-2 KDA, I played well"...

[@PassivesAbseits]

@@Weirdbrit Well... I'm talking base defense here, not the tier 2 turrets. Flashing to save our nexus turret is never "int"...

[@matustadi24degilim7]

So good content

[@nathanschader5408]

Fudge watched chovy’s ranked games

[@bohanxu6125]

LS is a good example of being at the bad end of dunning kruger curve...

[@mohamedmohsenkamel7818]

I think the main issue here is fudge like he is not that good and he is making blaber fall a lot because of him if they got a decent toplaner it will be better really

[@jakobj58]

Not gonna lie the constant gAMe oVeR calls piss me off. We are not talking about Korea but NA. It's never over in low elo.

[@luminous3558]

Bearded LS sure is something.

[@jackspinner4727]

If I got a dollar every time game over. I would teture

[@imsorrythankyouplease7613]

Retire?

[@MagGunDO17]

Vulcan is just the perfect misplay maker when he plays Tahm Kench First he kills his teammate by eating them (See this game around the 13:30 in game mark: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGHdeqNrf7GqY7M ) And now he doesn't eat them when it saves their life

[@MuffinMan2860]

I wonder, is banning udyr because of how good at everything he is a good ban? He seems to fit into engage comps disengage comps snowbally comps hmmm

[@atagor6812]

8:35 GNAZIR

[@zchob1935]

hope u have gud day

[@kyojindesu8167]

nemesis is making good jokes.

[@davidwilli5542]

Funny how ls says gnar is weird in the second game and then gnar is a hard carry

[@Vendrix86]

C9 loses, LS cries - great match.

[@ApexMemesClips]

Why do all the european pro's use "by the way" so weirdly

[@loxxovvoxxol2896]

Easy answer? English isn't their first language - they might be fluent, but might not have a full grasp of the English vocabulary (but, to be fair....neither do most native-English speakers) My guess is that things like 'by the way' closely translate to something they would often use in their first language for a variety of purposes.

[@Chromodar]

Alphari looking like the better EU import.

[@SuperElsalvadoreno]

It always feels like NA regresses every year. No matter what player comes or how good they are it always seems like they play to the competitions level.

[@heinzarniaung2915]

coaches??

[@tunic3471]

26:40 sanch wudnt have missed, true lmao

[@lorenzo249]

IT'S OVER IT'S OVER IT'S OVER IT'S OVER

[@SCGvidya]

what are they referring to "In GTO?" kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnzYlqtnpsiFnKM

[@Thisismaintv]

Ls: yup I agree

[@jackspinner4727]

So they all picked TL in draft. That’s why they “wanted” the game to be over. So there predictions would look right. Try to be unbiased buddies

[@jackspinner4727]

@@danielnizberg1754 true. I’m just talking about how they want there picks to win. I guess I would to.

[@jackspinner4727]

@@Weirdbrit yea I guess. And there not really announcing the game. They are just streaming their live reactions so I guess they can say what they want. The only thing I don’t like about ls is how often he talks in matter of fact ways. I guess until he is head coach of a team I won’t know how bad or great he is at analysis.

[@Legio__X]

I know LS and Nemesis are close and all but the Jokes about Nemesis not having a team/losing his job is kinda harsh. Even tho it’s a joke that’s gotta bother him.

[@PanIKlp259]

I mean nemesis had NA offers but ls told him to go as content creator rather than losing with a bottom tier team

[@fbiagent6456]

He's making more money right now.

[@Peyethon]

@LS_ruined_Fudge_KEKW

[@ssbclipsnow]

LS u need to put twitch chat on screen people wanna see reactions

[@senji1912]

twitch chat just stupid toxic for no reason . better to have focus on actual good content on the video

[@narrowpath1554]

@@senji1912 this

[@mooncakelol1680]

time to get food

[@imsorrythankyouplease7613]

NA

[@tysoncrosby3915]

So funny seeing LS get hyped for the reverse sweep just to have it crushed in game five. The TL hate and C9 bias was real here. Made the commentary difficult to watch. If you intend to "cast" and "analyze" games and play, leave your personal bias off screen.

[@svenvanveenschool]

Or find a different youtuber/ streamer if it bothers you. Some here don't mind and didn't even manage to take it serieus cuz it felt like he was disappointed in both teams anyway.

[@tysoncrosby3915]

@@svenvanveenschool I've hated LS's commentary for years. This popped up in my league of legends feed and I watched it to see if he had improved. He had not.

[@yessum44]

It's because he coaches fudge (and the other team-less players he's chatting with) so he's rooting for him to look good. It's why he always finds the bright spot in Fudges play despite him being trash. LS would shit on any other player that played like that.

[@tysoncrosby3915]

@@yessum44 which just lends itself more to my comment. I get it, he's invested in fudge as a player and probably a friend. But it just dulls the commentary when he can't be objective due to personal bias.

[@yessum44]

@@tysoncrosby3915 agreed. If his brand is that he shots on everyone that's fine, but be consistent. This was A+ shit talking material and he wasted it because of his bias.

[@stormshadow559]

Yea the DL stream is way better

[@supafas8711]

These videos would be more tolerable if nemesis wasn't apart of it

[@Wompond]

TFW LS is the reason C9 lost the series

[@J040PL7]

EZ 3-0 huh?

[@LifeWisdomTV]

damn perkz hard trolled game 2 loss getting hooked like that they woulda won that fight haard lol and then you get to see fudge ruin the last game ahahahaha classic gank top bro even with the classic tp back into lane udyr sits top waits for it has to flash out lol how does this still happen with the two best teams in the entire country irelia looked completely out champion picked by gangplank derp derp sit back and q irelia lol and udyr op

[@rancheng4982]

Bias LS toward clown9

[@Monotheist137]

Nemesis was better than Nisqy btw.

[@Sephiroxas]

hi

[@matheusklein7857]

COPIUM

[@stig5229]

gj

[@grantpolley]

LS aka (l)overreacting to (s)draft

[@albinkarllson7751]

ahaha

[@albinkarllson7751]

no first

[@albinkarllson7751]

3 rd