LS4 swapping a Pontiac Fiero! 400hp in such a small car will be hilarious lol

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[@18upbaddog]

your going to make me go to the barn and pull out one of my old fieros and start a new project

[@SniderTron3000]

Doooooooooiiiiiiiiit!!!!

[@towboatjeff]

You gotta do this if ya got a fiero or 2 laying around

[@spoze171]

You have fieros just laying around?

[@chevyP252]

Can I buy one?

[@budddove6480]

I think a good sounding/running engine with a lumpy N/A cam, is a perfect set up for fun in that car.

[@Blackinterceptor999]

And according to Richard's tests he can still turbo later on, if it's a good cam and makes power it will still make power under boost...Pretty much no reason not to make it sound absolutely gnarly.

[@budddove6480]

@@Blackinterceptor999 unless you pee sitting down.

[@JeffHucik]

Finishing up my LS4 / G96 (996) in my 81' Delorean as we speak. In my initial research stages I stumble across a lot of the Fiero swap material. Great thing about this engine is I think the Fiero and DeLorean guys are the only ones out there looking for them. Not super hard to find and not a ton of money. I'm really interested in throwing a turbo on mine probably after watching your video series. Great work!

[@davidjohnson8474]

I so remember back in the 80s when people were putting small block engines in these before LS engines were made!These new engines are so much smaller and will be so much easier to swap.Good luck with this should be Damn fun!!I almost bought one of these brand new in 86 or 87 and wanted to do this

[@stevenbean9706]

The guy who perfected the swap was killed in one, i built one fairly stock that went in the 6s in an 8th mile hope he puts wheelie bars and a cage in it they go over fairly easy if you run on a breezy day

[@neilbrown82]

They're not much smaller than a small block Chevy because these are gen 3 and 4 LS small blocks

[@charleswittmer2477]

V8 Archie bought a new 84 fiero and immediately started putting a sbc in it.

[@boosted0079]

I've seen several supercharged L67/32 swaps(3800 V6), and even turbo 3800s done to these Fieros, and they are incredibly crazy fast. I've been wanting to see an LS4 swapped Fiero for awhile now. Only heard talk about it, but no action lol. Trans is probably going to be the Achilles heel of this. Trans gets blown up a lot even behind the big V6 builds. Just don't throw a turbo on that LS and you'll probably be ok lol. Awesome bro

[@SniderTron3000]

Check out Pickardt Performance on Facebook or @_jestinn_ on instagram. They do a lot of LS Fiero builds

[@JRUTHLESS_GARAGE_AND_CUSTOM]

this will be a fun car. I've driven a North Star swaped Fireo. I had a customer years ago that kinda pioneered the north star swap do this same swap shortly after they were released. never got to drive in it but it looked fast and sounded great.

[@daltonhayes3694]

Ive seen a few north star swapped fierros

[@craigsoares2111]

LS6 intake will work fine with this and should flow decent enough it also clears the fiero decklid

[@jasonpetrich4141]

What's the point of ls swapping a fiero if you can't see that beautiful motor sticking out. That clearly should not be.

[@mikehagen3785]

My uncle did the v8 swap in the early 90s, with a healthy 355 sbc. It was a monster

[@Slowv8Fiero]

No it wasnt. No sbc swaps were monsters. None

[@calvincooley1074]

See my comment

[@redman715]

80 pounds lighter.Cletus sure would be proud of this one

[@perryturpin766]

Can we just take a second to realize just how fucking smart this man is?!

[@SniderTron3000]

Hahaha, its all stolen info from the internet

[@papatron-gr4wg]

Please don't day that again, his head will swell and we have to deal with it lmao

[@perryturpin766]

@@papatron-gr4wg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jasonpetrich4141]

If your gonna go through all the trouble of ls swapping a fiero!! I think it should get a tall tunnel ram style intake, so it can be seen!!! This car is gonna be very fun to drive, depending on how it handles maybe do an autocross event or time attack would be cool.

[@Blackinterceptor999]

Or one of those F1 style roof top scoops if there's one that will fit.

[@dannymccarty344]

Cool build! I put a jet engine in my Mustang last spring, and the chicks really dig me.

[@w41duvernay]

got to upgrade that transmission to a 5/6 spd trans. The later stock getrags have 3.7 final ratio gearing. When you get a trans, check to see what gearing it has to match the cam. What I am REALLY interested in is HOW you will do the exhaust around the subframe, or if you will keep a cat on it.

[@SniderTron3000]

No cat, we don't have inspections in Michigan so those are the first things to go lol The exhaust I'm thinking block hugger headers will out the pipes real close to where I need them to tuck under the oil pan

[@theANGRIERone]

It's like Christmas in November with all these SniderTron vids! Hope you and the family have a groovy Thanksgiving. Maybe have PapaTron torch the turkey this year. :D

[@papatron-gr4wg]

Tanks empty , fire departments 😊 happy

[@AjarZzzz]

Dude this is awesome. Im definetly happy to see the ls4 in a rear wheel. And what better channel than you and your badass dad. Good luck man cant wait to see what comes of this build.

[@smavtmb2196]

So glad your keeping the manual transmission.

[@thomasroberts1635]

A friend of mine worked for Pontiac for years as a service manager, He put a 409 in one . It to was a 4 speed. He actually raced it on road course tracks. Ol Stan ,he had a need for speed !!!

[@Flies2FLL]

I've heard Fiero V8 swaps are usually pretty squirrely.

[@lensrc7460]

There is a dude at the shop I worked at that was selling small block swap kits for Fieros years ago. It is how he got involved with the shop. HRE was researching a swap for a customer, and bought one of his kits. Also, he has jigs and cad files to recreate a Countach chassis. He was in the process of building a chassis for a replica when I had to leave work to care for my wife.

[@Marvyn555]

Back in 2000 I put a GM Performance Parts Ramjet 350 engine in a 1988 Fiero. It was a fun little car but it kept stripping all the teeth off 2nd gear in the 5-speed.

[@stevenbean9706]

The manual trannys dont last we used a transaxle from a caddy that had a universal housing then a 4000 stall tci converter

[@rustyjeep2469]

This just showed up in my suggestions... saved to playlist "Interesting" 😂🤙

[@pablotharpalo5685]

There's also a gent LS4 swapping a Corvair. You should check it out!

[@just4guitar558]

Would be a really fun ride just bone stock. 4-500hp will be tricky to keep tame. Should prove interesting content

[@chicagovasko]

Gonna need wheelie bars. Hellyeàh Brother!

[@ricodelnegro4010]

Fiero is one of my favorite fun cars of all time!!! Excited about this build too!!!

[@BDauto86]

Im Pretty stoked to see this project. Im a big fan of 3800sc having gtps in the past but I think the ls4 will be a riot. My Camaro is a stick car too so I couldn't see going auto with it, then ya gotta figure out what trans and clutch will hold 600+. I got an ar5 and LS3 stage 2 clutch/flywheel kit so hopefully it holds up alil bit. Just gotta worry about the 10bolt now. Lol

[@SniderTron3000]

Might have to try that NSX trans down the road lol

[@SlowWrx2018]

I have been wanting to see this done for so long!!

[@SniderTron3000]

It might take a second for me to gather all the parts but I'm hoping by spring to have it on the road

[@SlowWrx2018]

@@SniderTron3000 I’m excited to see the progress, I’ve been watching since the gold truck and I’m constantly coming back to see what you have going on in the garage

[@timothythomas1737]

Around 20 years ago I saw one with an lt1 in it. Looked factory!

[@racer193wr]

Brake and suspension should be a huge priority after you get the engine in it.. its going to be fun as hell in a crap your pants way every time you drive it. Wish there was a way to put the engine in a Fiero the right way and use a strong trammy. But that'd be a whole new car worth of work..

[@CondoreComputing]

Like the guy putting a supercharged Audi V8 and tranny in an MR2. Had to stretch the whole care, but he's done such a good job on it.

[@TheBBodyBuilder]

Awesome project…can’t wait to watch this one come together. That little Fiero with an LS and eventually a turbo will make a fun little toy.

[@1776cootsflybynight]

Yep, this channel is gonna grow quickly again. We need an O.G secret word

[@SniderTron3000]

Lol I'm drawing a blank on what it would be

[@ricktenter1631]

Hell yeah man, I’m stoked about this one!

[@Israel-ol7py]

Dude I had to come back just to comment again I can’t wait to see where this build is gonna go love from mount pleasant and Waterford

[@SniderTron3000]

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[@stevenbean9706]

Not the first time this has been done in the 90s the guy who built and perfected the v8 swap for these was killed in an accident when the fiero he was driving went up and caught wind under it and went over. A roll cage and wheelie bars are highly recommended i built one with an Is for a friend it was fairly stock except we had the transaxle built used a 4000 stall and it went 6:70 6:60s in an 8th mile that was a motor making mabe 450hp ! We also did a 69 or 68 VW beetle with a Cadillac 500 in the back that was another dangerous car if you want an even more fun project those beetles work a lot better with a v8 out back

[@eddiespagetti8395]

Only 400 hp ? This thing needs at least 750 hp to be a beast. Even those V6 ones can be done up to 400 . That V8 should push well over 500 if souped up. 400 HP is a start of beast mode. Sweet project forsure

[@jasonhooey5677]

706 heads for the win!!!!

[@richardbrowne1217]

LS4 swaping in a Pontiac Fiero? Shoot people use to use a Cadillac V8 swap in the Lamborginni kit cars by extending the frame 11 inches for the kit bodies on Pontiac Fieros. I know this idea is going to work really good!

[@BruceLee-xn3nn]

I've owned two of the v6 models. Theres not much room back there with the v6. You had to get under the car and reach up to change plugs on left bank.And the headers would crack on the v6.

[@davelowman3574]

These cars are fun as hell to drive,(especially in the snow) even with the 4 cylinder. With this setup it's going to be an absolute blast.

[@ChatGBTChats]

Ill be receiving a 1986-87 Shelby Charger from my father soon. Bringing it back to stock seems more difficult than it's worth since parts are impossible to find. I either want to K swap or LS4 swap cant decide yet. Its tiny like a fiero so this is a good example

[@bryanolson1823]

Ls4 King link up with him!!! Brandon furches is a great guy to work with!!!

[@SniderTron3000]

I would love to, but I can't imagine he would send me an oil pan for free and those things are $1100 without the starter. I might hit him up just to pick his brain though

[@zero2583]

Don't forget to upgrade brakes. Just did this swap and won't drive it bc it can't stop worth a piss. Opted for the ls9 cam and just sticking with the stock intake and dbw for now til the stopping issue is fixed, then it's turbo time. Also waiting to see your solutions for the alternator situation and clearance issue with the water pump with the passenger side deck hinge and finding the right length axles 🧐

[@fadedjate7230]

That's actually an awesome idea, since its basically a 5.3 with transverse motor mounts. This thing will be magnificent when its finished.

[@MRDIRTYBOY87]

Thats gonna be so dope, especially with the manual trans. #brickedup!

[@turtlehakes8543]

That looks like it is going to be a fun little car I just wondered if are going with manually transmission

[@whuffo]

Ponder on the transmission a bit. If you try this thing out to see what it'll do, it'll crack the case. The subframe is standard front drive GM size, so you have options.

[@user-cr3oe4jd4h]

Theres a guy called " v8 archie" that makes an adapter plate to mate a 350 cid to factory transmission. He might be able to help with some conversion parts.

[@classicstangbrn8964]

Back in the day Hot Rod magazine did a big block Chevy swap in a Fiero

[@fooquestionmark]

You're living my 18 year old Fiero owning dreams.

[@zerobudget2649]

I've been subbed for over a year now and I think this is going to be the best build you've done yet I'm going to watch every episode thanks brother

[@davidmillhollon486]

I have been watching your channel since you started , goldy hown and look at your channel know you are killing it with all your hard work I love your channel boss man keep it up, happy Thanksgiving to you and your family God's speed to you and your family.

[@markgrundvig3485]

I used to have a Fiero gt with a SBC motor, it put out about 450 hp. Most fun car ever.

[@nakedluck11]

The first v8 put in a fiero was built a few miles from where i went to high school

[@supercuda1950]

Should be a rocket. For quick delivery go Jegs or Summit. Delivery issues are mostly manufactured as are high gas prices.

[@cromedome2617]

I’m super interested in this build! I really am curious how you plan on making the engine fit.

[@A7xnightmare66]

They fit with no cutting necessary. Been done many times

[@T4BCSY]

Sounds like a plan. Pretty groovy plan though!

[@jagunn1972]

be sure to find where the pickup tube lands before you cut the pan.

[@sirtnfol8476]

the car looks cherry. gonna be awesome

[@claptrap673]

Cleaning the aluminum; Muriatic acid and a couple brushes when you think your done one do it more time

[@ericolsen67vw]

Not only hilarious. . . Dangerous, and a waste of time. . . I always dreamed of driving a purple fiero. Lol

[@tedjones450]

25 years ago I had a buddy that swapped in a 350 into a fiero, he kept blowing transmissions. We used to race behind work, and he would say to me that he just blew my doors of and I replied I just blew your trans. My car was and still is an 86 Mustang GT, his was a Fiero Black and Grey GT, the good old days

[@coryernewein]

Times like this I miss my old 2M6, I had some tasteful mods out back.

[@approachingtarget.4503]

Pssst! You could buy a sbc conversion from GM directly. Its been done a thousand times before.

[@SniderTron3000]

From GM directly? First I've heard of that. Link?

[@Doucettedon]

Back in the day we used to swap in the 3.8L

[@chriscoralAloha]

I was amazed when you said 27 2800 LBS. Heavy little girl.

[@SniderTron3000]

They girthy!

[@scorpio4713]

Oh, geez! Did you see that tree we almost hit? (friend) What makes you think we missed it? (driver) whatever do you mean? (friend) you think that's air you're breathing!? 😏😱...

[@SRMotoring]

I'm pretty pumped for this! I feel like there is going to be an LS powered vehicle in my garage soon.

[@MrJiblack]

"Frankenstein fiero",love it

[@jasonburleigh8731]

the stone hone is a much better option. due to the fact that it will completely flatten the side of the cylinder walls. The ball hone will ride in the depressions and just polish them, there is no resistance for a proper hone.

[@SniderTron3000]

I agree with that, but there's also the problem that if the cylinder does have any ridges, it could ride on the ridge until its honed down and wear into the surrounding areas. Idk if I'm explaining it right. I've also seen the stones fall off and gouge into the cylinder walls. But each of them definitely has its own advantages

[@jasonburleigh8731]

@@SniderTron3000 Very true, a valid point. Aside from that, 400 ponies in that fiero is going to be me saaweeet. Even at 2800 lbs, going to rocket down the street. ;)

[@turboslugfiero]

I have 407HP in my Fiero. (click on my logo to see) It's more than enough in a Fiero! You will need more brakes and a bit stiffer suspension in my opinion to keep the 400+ HP drivable😉 Plus, put good oil in the gearbox. It'll keep it alive a bit longer👍

[@2kbaby924]

what oil do you normally use in the trans?

[@turboslugfiero]

@@2kbaby924 Here in France the racers all use Motul 300 (75W90) competition gear oil. I haven't broken the Getrag yet!😉

[@2kbaby924]

@@turboslugfiero I thought you were supposed to use something thinner then gear oil? must be wrong

[@turboslugfiero]

@@2kbaby924 It's quite fluid oil, even when cold, but probably not easy to change gears when there's snow on the ground. It's synthetic gearoil, designed for the job and it works very well in a race situation when the gearbox can get quite hot. Thinner oils will not hold up. Like I said before, it's a race oil and it costs more than your average mineral gearoil. But for me, it does the job of keeping my Getrag 5-speed from blowing up! 😉

[@erick5598]

Loved my 09 Impala SS. Was a great motor, but the trans was trash though and is why I got rid of it.

[@SniderTron3000]

Trans, yeah. Motor just needed that dumb fucking DOD deleted lol

[@erick5598]

@@SniderTron3000 yeah. At least now those delete kits are cheaper than when I owned mine.

[@fbodyfanatics1997]

I've seen one with a Northstar out of a Cadillac

[@SniderTron3000]

Yeah, I considered that at one point. I saw some fairly cheap parts car but LS lol

[@jasonharwood1193]

Already did that in the 90s. Put a 350 in a V6 Feiro.

[@cowboy63645]

This is full of shenanigans and I’m here for it!! 🤘🤘

[@A7xnightmare66]

I’m putting a single turbo ls4 and gm f40 trans in mine right now!

[@dontkillme5368]

Yea we all know you pulled the BBK to see if you can run nitrous ports to it.

[@SniderTron3000]

🤫🤫🤫

[@sammorgan2390]

I'd love to see the finished product!!! I drove a fiero for years

[@dylanwallace1104]

Can't wait to see u rippin around in that fiero look forward to future videos on it.

[@jayallen408]

Between this and Cleetus here come The fieros time to shine 😎👍

[@narff1878]

That Muncie was upgraded to a 5 speed in the early 90s Cavalier/Sunbirds (J-Body), i've seen guys put a solid 450hp through it. The only really killer is torque, if you head north of 300lbs you'll want to be mind full of dropping the clutch, she'll loose her teeth faster then a meth addict.

[@whedanalexander3317]

Lol

[@jdrissel]

I knew a mechanic that put a GN engine and a Cadillac transaxle in a Fiero. If he put sticky tires on it it would pull the front wheels off the ground from a rolling 40 mph! You are going to be in that territory...

[@SniderTron3000]

Idk if I'll quite be there but it should be fun lol

[@pmscalisi]

@@SniderTron3000 a stock GNX only made about 280HP. You’ll be double that so I think you’re going to be surprised.

[@jasonketchum4052]

We used to do this back in the 80's but it had to be a Fieros GT an used a 350 which mounted up nicely. Cars were freaking scary fast .

[@charleswittmer2477]

I have se's and gt's not sure what you are talking about, the wings on a gt make it harder to lean over to work on, otherwise they are the same car except for the 88 which has the different rear cradle and suspension.

[@ezelk1337]

Put in the Sloppy Stage 2 cam. Gotta love the chop.

[@Blackinterceptor999]

With the lighter flywheel it should rev up and down a bit faster than the larger traditional LS cars...with the cam and heads I bet it's gonna sound insane....Imagine that thing with ITB's...

[@jessewait2931]

There is a guy on you tube thats putting one of these into a triumph and he made some sort of plate to mount the starter.

[@thegrandpumbaa]

+1 for keeping the stick.

[@hitmann8420021]

There's nothing worse than finding the perfect car and it's an auto lol

[@nathanielriedy262]

That's thing is gonna be so cool man I live down south and you see nothing like that here! The car it's self u don't see.

[@scottmorian9630]

Before they sold the parts for ls swaps I was using this style motors oil pan

[@RearEngineShop]

I approve of this! It’s going to be awesome!!!

[@tommydmot7725]

Been waiting for this to come about lol

[@craigsoares2111]

Definitely following along on this I have a 3800sc 4 speed fiero now and getting a Notchback 85 gt 4 speed and been thinking of going LS4 4 speed that would be totally fun I think for a intersection to intersection car 🤘😁🤘

[@cecilwilliams8646]

I had a 1985 Buick riviera with that engine

[@AshGTE]

Great video, thanks for the content. I subscribed to keep updated. 🔔 Over here in Europe American V8's aren't that easy to get hold of for cheap. The LS4 shares the same bellhousing pattern as the Cadillac Northstar though. The Northstar is actually affordable over here (about $1000 for a running engine, €600 for a HG failure) because they have the head bolt problems. This is easily fixed though with M12 head bolts or a stud kit. You can use a combination of Chevy, Jeep and ford off the shelf parts to create a RWD version. I was going this route with my project but an Mercedes OM606 turned up locally and I went superturbodiesel instead.

[@dustinclark9596]

I love it when you talk nerdy to me... Oh, might as well weld a bung on that oilpan while its easy....never know what youll do later

[@SniderTron3000]

yeah, might as well haha

[@bubblegumshoestringracing1498]

Yes please I can't wait!! It's on my list your thanks for making my job easier

[@Pushrodlife]

Should be lots of fun!

[@crash6369]

HELLZ YEAH i knew it the way that one sounded was sick

[@shanepowers7566]

Check out Burning wrenches Quadra V Tech. He had to fabricate a starter mount also.

[@harrysatin5110]

Excellent looking forward to the build,