LSD and the War on Memories with Joel Dimsdale

[@answersquestioned]

I wonder if Mengele really went to South America. One would expect the CIA to welcome him with open arms.

[@nodiggity9472]

Mengele did go to South America, but remained a carefully protected CIA asset for the rest of his life. He was too valuable to 'retire', seeing as how the whole MKUltra project and its various sub-projects were built around his notorious MindKontrollen work within the Nazi concentration camp system. Much is made about Mengele's work on genetics during this time, but his original remit (such as it was) was to produce a Nazi Ubermenschen or Supersoldier. The Allies were aware of this program's existence, and were very interested in obtaining any of the administrators and research staff involved, and around 1942 began to structure an operation (Paperclip) to facilitate the acquisition of every Nazi Scientist they possibly could. Ostensibly to prevent them falling into the hands of the Soviets, (Britain knew full well what a potentially problematic monster Soviet Russia was) but also to acquire the considerable body of knowledge regarding ̷w̷e̷a̷p̷o̷n̷ ̷s̷y̷s̷t̷e̷m̷s̷ rocket technology, and German intelligence on the Soviets. After all ,its bad form to spy on your 'allies' (Esp if that ally is Stalin) . So after the War, Mengele was 'put on ice' in SA while the Americans sifted through the vast body of research they'd acquired via Paperclip, and assessed the post-war applications of what they'd got so they could get the jump on the Russians, and stay ahead in the cold War. . Monster that he was, Mengele also had a brilliant mind, and once he'd been de-briefed and embedded somewhere safe (from where the Mossad couldn't extract him) he became too valuable an asset to 'retire'. So onceit was evaluated, Mengele's MindKontrollen research (Itself, a mad pipe dream of Hitler) was basically green-lit, and became the MKUltra group of projects. . Established rumours in the intelligence community imply that Mengele remained a consultant on some of these projects under the pseudonym 'Dr Green' right up untl the '70s, but seeing as most of the details around MKUltra were ̷s̷e̷c̷u̷r̷e̷d̷ destroyed before they officially pulled the plug in 1974, confirmation is sketchy. . The CIA itself was originally staffed by Paperclipped Nazi intelligence operatives, so we can see how the left hand was washing the right hand from as early as 1947. This is how America's post War objectives became intrinsically polarised by Nazi research, and the how the subsequent political 'rebrand' was carefully orchestrated with top level security and deniable accountability. The research carried on, funded by CIA shell foundations, research grants were made available to pretty much every lunatic psych project and acid influenced programs (Especially at UCA Berkeley) . One interesting factoid, is that one of the first things the CIA did after their formation, was to acquire every drop of LSD from Sandoz Labs in Switzerland, before anyone else caught on to its potential 'uses'. So right from the get-go, the entire counter-culture of the 60s was fuelled by CIA/Sandoz LSD, then exploited, focused and carefully monitored under the umbrella of secrecy afforded to the CIA under MKUltra. . All the crazies, the cults, and the 'lone nut' assassinations during the 60s and 70s, Rock and Roll, Hollywood, and every counter-cultural movement since WWII has its conceptual roots largely influenced by the newly flexing CIA. Who's first secret directive seems to have been "Go and see what you can do with all this LSD. And don't get caught". Mind Kontrollen. MKUltra becomes Co-Intelpro. Covert Ops start to become funded by first, illicit heroin, and then cocaine distribution. (South American Nazi resettlement policy certainly paid off there) . But has the US Government become the administrative arm of the CIA? Probably not, but as a secret objective carried over from WWII and the Cold War, via the imported Nazi elite scientific cabals? ̷H̷e̷l̷l̷ ̷t̷o̷ ̷t̷h̷e̷ ̷y̷e̷a̷h̷ Let's hope not. eh.

[@angiejefferys5779]

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[@fluxcapacitor3278]

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[@eottoe2001]

The pathway to hell really is filled with good intentions.

[@TV-fu1ec]

That and repressed darkness we are unaware of in ourselves and others.

[@eottoe2001]

@@TV-fu1ec Jung is right, we don't want to acknowledge even possibility of our shadow.

[@arzoo_singh]

Point ...so much of crisis and chaos and bad thinghs are done by saying we are doing for Earth ,New world etc . In reality it's just evil and bad

[@rh001YT]

The Mk Ultra and related stuff in this video shows the dangers of secretive government. Also shows the misguided and actually stupid tendencies of the rise of the ideology of materialism and viewing humans as things.

[@TV-fu1ec]

I think it came about due to the industrial revolution and mass production. Hard psychologically keep separate our views of others and our environment. If you call someone "thou" compared to let's say a number.

[@johnjackson2774]

What a barbaric study of unrelated measures. At 11 years old I was given a full tab of four way window pane. I experienced a 11 dimensional series of reality, none of which I have ever forgotten. That was in 72. 28 years later string theory was announced. I have lived before born, known of all that exist and have seen eternity. LSD provides an ability to understand what you already know. To know your own fear is to realize your own faith.50 years and 1000's of dose's later I still trip, I understand who I am. May anyone of you know these things you are truly the living art of consciousness.

[@conniead5206]

Back in 69 I was on vacation with my mom in Utah. I got a call from my girl friend. I had stopped hanging with her as much because of her brother and his drug friends. I had decided that was a dumb way to rebel. Anyway, her brother was dead. Him and another guy on an Acid trip somehow got a gun. Because there had been only the bullet that went through her brother’s brain they assumed they were playing Russian Roulette and likely did not realize it was a real gun. His “mind” was truly opened up. In the wrong way. You can go on about what you experienced. The ass that gave you the Acid should have been horse whipped. Broke several laws and endangered you and did not care. You do seem to have a bit of a mental deficit. Adding 28 years to 1978 only takes you to 2000. You seem to be missing 21 years.

[@johnjackson2774]

@@conniead5206 1972 to the year 2000 is28 years. String theory evolved to the public knowledge in 2000. I saw string theory as a child in the 11demensional reality at 11. I'm now 61. I believe that is the time you believe is missing. It was sad that a child was given LSD, also it was untold pain that put me in that moment. I never said the world was not full of idiots.

[@StefanReich]

Nice

[@sr2291]

MKULTRA wasnt just dosing people on LSD. He explains it at the end.

[@Nowhereoh]

@@conniead5206 You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension.

[@michaelmcilrath9466]

Superb report!

[@Paige-nx4wx]

It's intriguing that we're in the midst of a revival of use of psychedelics for their "therapeutic potential," and they're like the new best thing that no one had realized before. Yet there's no discussion in the things that I've read regarding the history and that quite a lot of study was done, even in academic articles. It seems very important for anyone involved clinically or as a patient to know the full history. Why after all these years is it suddenly being presented as almost the new cure-all? I don't have the answers but I believe the questions are important.

[@kateh.2327]

My dad was a career military officer working with the chemical Corp... He was well aware of the atrocious chemical research committed on Ft Detrick in Frederick MD as we lived on base twice n ultimately bought a house a block from Detrick... We had no intention of staying here but he contracted Parkinson's ... I could expand on some of the atrocities that occurred on base n how the military disposed the toxic waste in local property n local rivers n streams n how, in turn, hundreds of local residents have cancer n neurological issues... Since this is about LSD I'm well aware of Frank Olson, a Colonel in the military... He was being given LSD without his knowledge... When he was about to blow the whistle he was sent to NY for a " MTG".. he was accompanied by two " civilians" now believed to be CIA agents.. while in NY Frank Olson " jumped" from a high rise tho it is now believed he was pushed ... I still live in Frederick MD n there is a building called the " Nils Olson " building ( named for Colonel Olson's son) .. the family successfully sued the military ( damn near impossible) ... I'm well aware of the other various experiments involving anthrax n agent orange on base n then disposing of the toxic waste on local ( off base) property n local rivers n streams... They said they dug it up which is ludicrous as it had already seeped into the ground.... I was raised to not question our military n have respect for it... It pains me to say that Ft Detrick in Frederick MD did some atrocious experiments on unsuspecting soldiers... As a result within a mile radius of Detrick there are 1100 people with cancer.. I'm aware of a family that grew up near Detrick in which 11 members of this family developed the same type of cancer.... On the little Cul de sac I lived on there are no less than 5 people who contracted Parkinson's... I now have Parkinson's n 3 of my 5 brothers have had tremors for decades... I can recall the locked wards at the dispensary on base( no longer there) n was told by my mom n dad that medical experiments were being done on soldiers.. some rec'd extra pay, some without their knowledge... It pains me to acknowledge the atrocities that were committed at Ft Detrick but I have little doubt the " experiments" are still going on....

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[@TV-fu1ec]

So, we brought over the pathology that was strong in Germany and imported it here. Kept it hidden. And let the apparatus suppress the evidence of the effects. Unfortunately, I have/ had two close family members who were deeply embedded in the metal healthcare system from opposite ends of the spectrum. One a psychiatrist, one an individual who experienced mental hospitals and harsh treatments during that era. It's very interesting now to hear so much about this element that must have been functioning strongly in that era.

[@seantheguy1391]

Damn the Dimadones sure changed after they shut down the dimsdale dimadome

[@seantheguy1391]

Forgive retard comments for i consumed a weed edible

[@hansdybka1331]

@@seantheguy1391 I found it funny..Doug Dimmadome attempts mind control by tainting milk. the whole MK Ultra affair could have been depicted with a cartoon strip.

[@upsty6499]

Ohh they went way beyond the lsd experiments. The subprojects are downright nefarious.

[@nodiggity9472]

Also hilarious. And surreal. And largely deniable. The principles of mind control over an individual can be somewhat nefarious, granted. But supersize those principles so that control over the social narrative becomes emergent, mind control becomes an obsolete concept for conspiracy nuts to distract everyone with. All the smart kids are polarising entire populations now. Geographical boundaries are losing their relevance, entire historical and contemporary narratives are being re-invented, re-written, forced, and controlled on a magnitude that was unthinkable to our grandparents. The King is dead. Long live the King.

[@Felipe-pn1mn]

This still happens

[@zephyrquartz]

Imagine what they have done since then!

[@larrypahl1012]

while we tripped, ussr built Havana Brain Baking Electro-Magnetic Frequency weapons. BERKELEY!!!!? focus on UTILITY OVER AESTHETICS please?

[@unclesham5507]

He never talks about how the CIA started the drug counterculture does he?

[@angiejefferys5779]

George town comes to the forefront again!?

[@thomashanks1033]

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