Why Steven Universe Got CANCELED

#cartoon #animation #stevenuniverse #rebeccasugar #garnet #cancelled #shorts #short
Despite being one of the most popular shows of the past decade, Steven Universe was still cancelled by Cartoon Network so early that the crew could barely finish the story, why was that?

[@LSMark]

What did you think of Steven Universes’ ending 🤔

[@cfiber_inc]

it was eh

[@wowtoday9711]

Idk I didn’t watch it

[@maciejszypelt7623]

I thought it was good. Could have been better though

[@TheDigitalApple]

A disaster

[@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234]

Didn't watch it. Steven Universe = 🤢

[@quackicloudy_]

“No Rebecca, we can’t have gay rocks.”

[@SillysBirds]

underrated

[@Markeplier23]

I’LL MAKE THESE ROCKS GAY EVEN IF IT MEANS I LOSE MY SHOW!

[@alwandemthethwa7594]

​ @Markeplier23 nd the funny part is that since the gems r an all "female" or genderless race, they were actually straight, rose might be considered the gay one 😂

[@Avianeyes]

B-BUT GAY ROCKS :(

[@clydecash5659]

I DONT LIKE EM PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER THAT TURN THE FREAKIN FROGS GAY! FROGS GAY! FROGS GAY! FREAKIN FROGS! FREAKING FREAKING FROGS GAY!

[@user-xn6wu4gj3d]

“Rebecca, don’t make the blue and red rocks lesbians or else we’ll cancel your show”

[@OryXity]

More that they told her "dont make the lesbian thing entirely plot relevant, you can have a bottle episode, just dont make it a necessary episode needed to understand the plot and story" To which she spitefully included the diamonds invading and made the lesbian wedding entirely plot central, sacrificing their ability to air the show in ameica (where gay marriage was still banned at the time) for "the message" It was cancelled because rebecca sugars team decided to do something they were told would not be able to make money in america at the time, thus cartoon network at the time didnt think the show would continue to be productively profitable, instead using its previous success to enact political change and spread worldview propaganda, which is not what cartoon network is for It is not an indoctrination platform They exist to make money off kids that are needed to be idle by their parents without being taught every opposing worldview delusional emotional depressed adults have come up with (Its entertainment not learning material on how kids should act, which is the only way kids take content, they extrapolate it as their inanimate "peer" (i.e romantically and homoSEXUALLY. i mean its literally in the word, kids and sex/sexuality should be kept SEPERATE in early years, the only people logically that want children to be exposed to sex is pedophiles, of which the only possible crime they exclusively commit is exposing children to sex, that is what defines grooming)

[@purrplexingkat3741]

It sounds so stupid when you put it that way lol

[@thomasledfart3487]

​@@purrplexingkat3741yeah like why would they cancel a show over gay rocks? They must have a sad life

[@_unfairness_2187]

I mean they did kind of have a reason since gay marriages weren't legal in the US and they would've been afraid of the show would be banned and they couldn't show it, unlike disney

[@moaxiom4893]

@@_unfairness_2187Bro I call bullshit, it’s more of an excuse to be homophobic than anything

[@Theneongreninja]

They were incredibly lucky to get a movie and an epilogue series after that

[@FerretyZebra]

Nah, mote that the show was popular enough for that

[@odeiofunkdeputariarum851]

@@FerretyZebra so was infinity train

[@FerretyZebra]

@@odeiofunkdeputariarum851 yeah, just saying that luck played a less pivotal role than the sheer popularity

[@urahara64360]

​@odeiofunkdeputariarum851 I don't really get the hype behind infinity train though.

[@AeonKnigh432]

​@@urahara64360It's good? What else.

[@Connor_Tyler]

If I remember right, one of the things that Rebecca Sugar and the crew did was deliberately make the wedding episode insanely plot relevant to the series, what with the Diamonds invading and the reveal of Steven as Pink's son. So if that particular episode got banned in other countries, as it did, then people would still have to look it up to see what plotlines occured.

[@Panzermeiller]

I don't like steven universe but this is pure dedication right there.

[@085665372]

Rebecca "Chad" Sugar

[@eddiek6390]

It is better than that, because Ruby was retconned as a male in some translations. So Ruby wore the wedding dress AND the episode was extremely plot relevant, so other countries couldn't just make Ruby a male and cutting the episode was also problematic.

[@LixoDelac]

@@eddiek6390 yea like in mine (middle east)

[@KE-yq2eg]

I always saw ruby as male, even though they say otherwise. So, her being in the dress was still extremely odd to me.

[@LunaGamer25]

Plus, I heard Rebecca had Ruby be in the wedding dress specifically so they couldn't make her appear male in other versions since other versions would animate a mustache on Ruby to make her a man.

[@MeganBacon]

Ok but I why do I want to see that now. Please picture it, Ruby in a wedding dress, BIG HUGE 🥸style cartoony mustache. Peak cinema.

[@Hinatachan360]

Yeah, that was in Russia.

[@kiboubo663]

Not y'all believing the mustache thing 😭😭 It's just a meme. They did give Ruby male pronouns in Russia though, which is also bad

[@LunaGamer25]

@@kiboubo663 wtf, the mustache was meme? Dammit

[@thenecessaryevil2634]

@@kiboubo663 Also Spain. And it was Spain doing it that Rebecca sited as why she did it. She had taken a trip to Spain and caught the "Keystone Motel" episode with Ruby's male voice actor.

[@mmgmagic]

It's interesting to think that Steven Universe crawled so that the Owl House could run in regards to dealing with rushed finales due to corporate meddling.

[@pocketmarcy6990]

I mean, at least Disney let Dana have an extra three episodes after season two instead of forcing her to end it with Season 2

[@venomouskoala0690]

Well corporate meddling isn’t exactly to blame for either. Both companies are very upfront with what happens to the shows that depict these sorts of things. And it’s not like they’re banning it from being made, they let the episodes air, but when the episodes do air, the show gets banned in loads of countries, costing the shows their budget. And now the show can’t pay animators, script writers, and whatever else they need. And the companies can’t stop that.

[@pocketmarcy6990]

@@venomouskoala0690 China and India are really the major deciders on that, and both of them are vehemently anti-lgbt (India less so) so yeah it definitely would make a difference in the show’s success

[@venomouskoala0690]

@@pocketmarcy6990 well, nearly a quarter of all people live in those countries, whatcha gonna do?

[@theboywhowillsurpassthegods]

don't compare dogshit to peak

[@CaptainCat101]

At least it actually got a finale, unlike other shows

[@supermariohack3218]

Infinity Train comes to mind...

[@Shay_Mendez]

@@supermariohack3218 Teen Titans too.

[@fnaf6491]

Cough Infinity Train Cough Cough Dead end paranormal park Cough Cough Cough Final Space

[@07W]

Clarence got cancelled bcuz of this trash show

[@Corndog.474]

​@JNB wrong. Clearence got canceled bcs everyone hated it when it first came out

[@therebel_rebel]

funny how theres entire shows, even genres dedicated to crime and murder, but a cartoon with gay marriage is where they draw the line, makes perfect sense

[@Lifeiscoolandstuff]

what the issue…?

[@dedmed8139]

​@@LifeiscoolandstuffPeople like you

[@imaminordw]

@@ricky18redblack31I totally agree. Like these are two different ball parks, chill it!!

[@theblackoutexplorer2658]

Except none of those are really on cn? And the same countries censoring the gay stuff usually end up censoring anything else too. Like Sandy in SpongeBob having a poorly edited on dress.

[@joserobertosolismerlin5527]

I mean i dont see it those aimed at children

[@nicz6081]

So sad that the show was forced to be rushed.

[@AD-tj4jc]

Be glad it even had five seasons, a movie, and an epilogue series. Most cartoons can't even DREAM of that.

[@allendepacheco3419]

​@@AD-tj4jc Pretty sure CN dropped the ball harder than most meteorites after canceling Steven Universe which led to the Movie and Future. Especially since Future tried to talk about the criticism of the ending like how Steven didn't actually forgave the Diamonds but he had no choice. (The Diamonds are still incredibly powerful and most of their gems are still loyal so Steven can't even defeat them let alone shattering then without putting Earth at risk)

[@InternalxHD]

steven universe was trash, garbage

[@ironmaster6496]

INSIDE JOB!!! 😭😭

[@lizaraVR]

i mean she was warned what might happen if she creates the gay marriage episode and she did anyways. sometimes you gotta decide whether you wanna push your values or create something successful some countries still make a big deal out of anything gay

[@Keyndoriel]

It's sad but yeah, I figured that's what the nail in the coffin was. It's why I'm so gentle with the ending.

[@DystopianDustin]

Knowing this makes me rethink the show, it probably could've been better in general without all the restrictions put on them by the executives

[@Rebecca-bk9bd]

Honestly I’ve always been less harsh on cartoons with queer characters. There’s just so much pushback from so many people and it feels like each cartoon is a stepping stone for another cartoon to be more explicit with its queer characters. Without shows like Legend of Korra, Steven universe, and svtfo, we’d never have the owl house, the later seasons of adventure time (and it’s bubbline spin off), or even shera. I have my own problems with Rebecca Sugar, but they and the crew have my respect for not backing down on this one

[@pyro1830]

​@@Rebecca-bk9bd id bd gentle too but then they made unjverse and their mental health representation is just so bad and atrocious i can no longer be gentle

[@beebs4283]

Yeah, I really don’t understand why some people are so damn harsh on the ending even while understanding the extreme circumstances it was made under. There was only so much they could do with what they were given.

[@beebs4283]

@@pyro1830 are you talking about future? because… huh? future’s depiction of mental health and ptsd is so accurate that it actively made me uncomfortable because it reminded me too much of my own struggles. i am pretty mad we didn’t get to see any of the healing process on screen, but its depiction of mental health was very accurate.

[@Cherry_bomb437]

It's ironic that a show about loving yourself and others was cancelled due to people not accepting and loving others

[@TheAyanamiRei]

Not ironic at all. That was actually the whole point of the show, that many will hate and try to destroy the love that you have.

[@fudgen.a1249]

Some of these comments are pretty good examples of people not being accepting of others due to minor differences in life…

[@fudgen.a1249]

@@TheAyanamiReiIn some cases, that hate going so far to even be to their own detriment.

[@iiqooza3385]

It’s a kids show we don’t need to see ruby and sapphire make out every season

[@gunieupig543]

​@@iiqooza3385and they literally don't do that every season?? Y'all bever have this problem with straight couples bruh💀💀

[@daydreamlover15]

For the show to be cancelled and have funding cut over that is insanely heartbreaking. I’m glad they went through with it- more people than they will ever know found comfort and support through this episode❤️

[@TheCrazyfilmsinc]

You are automatically based for acknowledging the actual reason behind the rushing instead of blaming it on the show’s crew like most others do lol

[@danielgraham1082]

If we’re being technical it is still the crew’s fault because they were given a warning

[@07W]

Yeh they lost a lot of ppls jobs over their pettiness 😂

[@shortangel333]

@@07W Because a show deep in its 5th season is safe in this climate. Most shows make it to 3 seasons and are cancelled. They would have lost their jobs anyway so why couldn't they choose to? I mean with fair warning the crew had time to look for other jobs anyway instead of the show just getting axed randomly.

[@MarceloZ2]

I mean… this perfectly fine reason as to why the ending was bad and rushed still doesn’t make the ending *not* bad and rushed. There wasn’t much the crew could do to avoid that given the situation, but the ending still sucks ass.

[@juanprada4410]

It was the Crew fault, they chose the message they wanted to give, rather than the story they were telling.

[@blahblah_bby]

Another thing: Steven Universe: Future was only greenlit because the movie did good. Even then, it was only given 20 eleven-minute episodes, causing many storylines to be cut or abruptly end in order to tie all the loose ends together before the last episode.

[@doriancarter964]

That’s not true actually; Cartoon Network green lit the movie on the condition that there would be an epilogue series (because to them a movie only serves to advertise more content) I’m guessing the movie only got green lit cause Battle of Hearts and Minds did as well as it did

[@adak5805]

Steven universe felt like cartoon made by 2015 tumblr but the memories I have are still fond and the animation is still nice.

[@Septic_tank_owner]

thats probably the most accurate description of the show I've seen well done mate 👏🏻

[@nessesaryschoolthing]

Your not wrong, but there was some good shit on 2015 Tumblr.

[@adak5805]

@@nessesaryschoolthing that's true. Being on tumblr during 2012-2015 was such a fun.

[@librask3009]

​@@Septic_tank_owner disgusting profile name

[@oniondragon]

​@@Septic_tank_owner happy pride month babe, glad we still control your every breath down to your username ❤

[@misaki5277]

I love how people would probably try to do stuff like make ruby the 'masculine' one in the marriage but Rebecca was like 'yeah no we gave her a dress, sapphire gets the suit. also the DIAMONDS interrupt the wedding so you can't delete the scene or it won't make sense'

[@serenity9579]

this is really sad. despite the rushed ending....I really love this show. it's made of love

[@JubulusPrime]

And I really love the Alan Dracula pfp

[@serenity9579]

@@JubulusPrime thank you 😁

[@MartyrMaria]

If love was of only rainbows and idiocy

[@serenity9579]

@@MartyrMaria aha

[@darkskullxiii]

Its made of shit

[@mweeee]

Wow, that's fucked But you gotta respect them sticking to it, despite knowing the possible consequences

[@ivanexell-uz4mv]

It was stupid imo

[@Natsuki_Kat]

​@@ivanexell-uz4mv they aren't gonna rewrite a character over some intolerant asshats

[@odeiofunkdeputariarum851]

@@ivanexell-uz4mv agreed sure it was a "win" for the lgbt community but like there could have more interesting stuff for the show

[@steveben6412]

@@ivanexell-uz4mv I mean mayby wait until the ending to do so Cartoon Network for once was right but they thought they were being homophonic

[@ivanexell-uz4mv]

@@odeiofunkdeputariarum851 exactly

[@paweldoruch1016]

Wait... YOU MEAN WE COULD HAVE HAD MORE STEVEN UNIVERSE AND A BETTER ENDING?!!!!! I HAD NO IDEA!! THATS SO SAD IT WOULDVE BEEN SO GOOD

[@bry_dawg027]

They could have had it at the finale

[@Haphu15]

Same could applied to the owl house

[@bluewolf6323]

​@bry_dawg027 The problem with that is that if the wedding was in the finale, cooperate would have definitely cut it off completely. Rebecca put the wedding with a plot relevant episode so it wouldn't get cut and they had to show it or else people would miss big plot.

[@pando0884]

​@@bluewolf6323 they had this episode + 6 more. It shouldn't be so hard to add this part to another plot relevant episode.

[@bluewolf6323]

@pando0884 Like I said, they had to fight for the wedding scene in general. They probably did have the plan to add the wedding scene earlier or later, but they couldn't because it would've gotten cut. Although there were 6 more episodes, with the way the show worked out, there still would've been a slight slow burn to build up to the finale. 6 episodes? To wrap up a show that was canceled? That is not enough, especially since, yes, they did have to add that plot line of the Diamonds coming down. They probably already had to cut out so many things to get the show running more so that they could get the episodes out. While yes, 6 episodes should be enough, there's a difference between time crunch and genuine passion. The Crewniverse had enough passion and forethought to put the wedding in an episode where it was important. However, there was a time limit to how much could be shown after that. Maybe 2 more episodes would help the ending, but the time crunch dictated and hung over the Crewniverse. They had to get everything out fast, basically being rushed to finish up plot threads and leave some more hanging that could not be solved because they didn't know they were given a movie and a TV series. All I'm saying is, they were screwed either way all because the cooperates did what they did and basically rushed a plot that was already scrambling, I will not lie.

[@samueleveleigh2767]

Im sorry, im still horrified that it took until 2015 for America "land of the free" to allow gay marriage

[@surprisedchar2458]

No, 2015 is when the Supreme Court forced every state to accept it. Many had voted to allow it beforehand. But hey you’d know that if you were either American or bothered to put five seconds of research into the topic.

[@samueleveleigh2767]

I did, and my comment was being generous, by the final supreme court ruling 26% of states were FORCED to not openly be homophobes. so congrats on most of america being slightly behind the times, sucks that you personally see that as an achievement though...@@surprisedchar2458

[@zombies4evadude24]

And you should be more horrified that, on the contrary, child marriage has always been legal in the country and the right continues to protect it to this day.

[@wacawaka1802]

Marraige isn’t a freedom or right for anyone. That was the dishonest argument behind gay marraige. That it was a right. You cannot have a right to form any contract. Also we only do it because having a father stay with the family improves all our quality of life. Gay couples don’t do this but you still insist on giving us benifits because it makes you feel better about yourself. FK EVERYONE else right? That tends to be your motto

[@sircartier2723]

​@@wacawaka1802wtf are you talking about

[@Rain-s8b]

God i remember being 12 and seeing reunited for the first time. I cried like a baby. As a closeted lesbian in a fundamentalist Christian household, seeing ruby and sapphires wedding meant the absolute world to me. This show will ALWAYS hold such a special place in my heart ❤

[@BeccaPuff]

"Closeted lesbian" "12 years old" "Watching Steven Universe" Sus

[@AlphaCastAintIt]

​@@BeccaPuff ?

[@COMINGFORYOU-ov1tx]

​@@BeccaPuffwhat?

[@ConvergingWinter]

​@@BeccaPuffKZbin Short weirdos when they realize that being gay isn't a choice

[@_Kchong]

@@BeccaPuffthat episode came out 6 years ago… how is that sus??

[@skullcandy14785]

Oh wait i didnt know it was canceled!? Huh that makes sense now

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

Solution: most people I know thought Ruby was male anyway, so just play on that in the dubs. He/She acted masculine anyway, and doesn't show stereotypical feminine traits anyway, so it's an easy fix. Sugar gave Ruby a wedding dress as a middle finger, but you can simply mask that as drag. Many shows have male characters wear female clothing as a joke, and I've seen shows where a stereotypical Andrew Tate sigma/alpha style male goes full in obsessing with the female clothing, so it could have easily been masked as one of those cases. Idk, seems like an easy fix.

[@cosmo-dragon3973]

@@cerebrummaximus3762 the point was to explicitly state “these two characters are in a same sex relationship. You will NOT censor this by trying to mask one of them as male to avoid the topic.” By making Ruby male, you miss the ENTIRE POINT of what made Garnet such a good character. Their relationship was forbidden in the show for reasons unrelated to their homosexuality, but the “forbidden” nature of their relationship was an lgbt allegory the entire time.

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

@@cosmo-dragon3973 That is not what made Garnet a good character. Ruby and Sapphire's relationship was made well, regardless if they are Heterosexual or not. Sugar tried to push a neo-lib agenda to a world that isn't "ready", and got rebuked. If CN had the power, they should have simply limited this, rather than cancelling the show. There genuinely wouldn't be much difference on Ruby's gender. Not once did the show go meta mentioning Ruby being a female and the untraditional marriage wasn't even put to question in-show. I must give it to Sugar, well done to Sugar for avoiding self-centring on Ruby and Sapphire being lesbian, and letting the relationship flow without mentioning or putting on topic their sexuality, the reverse dressing during the marriage truly was a middle finger, but one that was unnecessary, however.

[@cosmo-dragon3973]

@@cerebrummaximus3762 i don’t think you realize that Sugar herself would SEVERELY disagree with you. Gay marriage isn’t “neo-liberal agenda” and Sugar herself pushed HEAVILY for the show to recognize Ruby and Saphire’s relationship as a same-sex relationship. The fact that she stuck to her principles and wouldn’t back down on the “neo-liberal agenda” was why the show was cancelled AT ALL in the first place. You think Sugar agrees with you, but she’d probably call you an a**hole and tell you to go f**k yourself for even suggesting that she should erase Ruby and Sapphire’s gay relationship just to appeal to right wing nutcases who think being gay is “political.”

[@arandomtwilek7261]

​@@cerebrummaximus3762 You keep forgetting all gems are women besides steven

[@madylittler]

I had heard that the reason they decided to put the diamonds coming to earth and their battle with the gems, inside the wedding episode was so that the episode couldn't be skipped or removed, it needed to be watched to understand the story.

[@basicallyperidot5299]

So I have the book shown in the video and to summarize they said that there was a lot of push back when trying to pitch the wedding. One claim they got was "kids wouldn't find it exciting" and that's how it turned into a big action packed episode coupled with an amazing musical number. Also unrelated but the higher up people were apparently reaching so hard that they tried to claim that it'd be out of character for Steven to like weddings... despite his love for weddings

[@MeganBacon]

@@basicallyperidot5299 That would completely go against his entire personality. I mean, that’s LITERALLY the plot of Open Book. 🥲

[@BenHopkins1000]

No one likes a wedding crasher, either, and the Diamonds delivered on that front

[@FernandoSegovia701]

Wtf? You're telling me my South American country had legal gay marriage before the US? 💀 What the hell's going on over there?

[@FernandoSegovia701]

@@Septic_tank_owner Nah, it's a good thing.

[@ladyilex]

@@FernandoSegovia701 lol ignore that speck of trash

[@FernandoSegovia701]

@@Septic_tank_owner Human rights

[@partyharry7585]

There is a limited time in this world for you, and you chose to watch steven universe.

[@FernandoSegovia701]

@@partyharry7585 I didn't watch it though. But even if I did, wasting time is literally what any form entertainment is for. EDIT: After some months, I did watch Steven Universe. It's pretty great.

[@cwispygiraffe]

Same thing ended up happening to the owl house, truly a shame. Though I think the owl house did a decent job of working with their limited final season

[@mememe9003]

Dana actually said it didn't have anything to do with Lumity it was just that the owlhouse was too dark for Disney Channel (Gravity Falls was allowed to be as dark as it was because it was on disney xd)

[@lisaweyh-gsell4214]

TOH had nowhere near as much corporate harrassment and threats of cancellation as SU those two aren't comparable

[@sunny_172]

@@lisaweyh-gsell4214 What people don't realize is that SU went through all that so future shows like TOH didn't have to. (I'm not saying you're wrong, they're not comparable at all, just wanted to point out the reason)

[@lisaweyh-gsell4214]

@@sunny_172 exactly

[@misterwebb1472]

​@@mememe9003it was originally on Disney channel. Also amphibia was dark and it got a full third season

[@spazzmatik2291]

That's why I love Rebecca. She had a plan and stuck with it despite knowing that standing on her morals may cause it to end abruptly. That's one of my favorite episodes too

[@TheTrueSuper]

Why was gay marriage ever illegal? Isnt that dumb? Let people do what they want and be who they are as long as it isn't hurting anyone or anything, because its not hurting anyone, or anything.

[@tidalbow8969]

NOooooo We cAN't aLLow ThAt bEcASe gOD sAyS iT's bAd

[@TheTrueSuper]

@@tidalbow8969 God says love everyone too, that includes gay people

[@tidalbow8969]

@@TheTrueSuper Tell that to muslims

[@TheTrueSuper]

@@tidalbow8969 maybe another time

[@gryficowa]

@@tidalbow8969 Muslims are also LGBT+, so a weak argument

[@NitPickerYT]

Another detail was that censors tried to pass Ruby off as a dude and in response they put Ruby in the dress

[@Kainewall]

they are aliens they don't have genders

[@massacremark6782]

It’s like that one story of a Trans man who looks like a fucking body builder showing up to a wedding in a dress cuz his mom told him to, not knowing he was taking T.

[@fisht251]

what a powermove

[@Bread16091]

“Oh, so you want to make Ruby a guy? Let me just- 👗” - Rebecca (probably)

[@itz_Hunter_Lumine]

I remember watching SU on T.V one time and even though Gay relationship was illegal in my country at the time (thankfully not anymore), the dubbers never once changed Ruby's gender or Sapphire's which lead to a lot of backlash on the show here. It is unfortunate that is one of the main reasons why the dubbing was cancelled and even stopped being shown on T.V. completely and you find so much KZbin and Netflix of my country really doesn't have it.

[@bodhisattva71]

I always go into anything with low expectations. So if it wins I love it.

[@CheeseLoverRed]

Imagine what shows could be like if people stopped caring about a cartoon's sexuality.

[@user-cum4f4cn4q]

Bro uk that most of usa right now cares about your sexuality right? Not just usa but a big part of za warudo

[@CheeseLoverRed]

@@user-cum4f4cn4q Not my sexuality. A fictional character's sexuality. Sometimes not even being remotely human.

[@user-cum4f4cn4q]

@@CheeseLoverRed still some ppl care and feel entitled to put someone liking each other in jail because of yes

[@i_garfed_on_the_carpet]

“How dare they like the same gender! That affects me in every way possible somehow!”

[@noneofyourbussines8080]

I don't care about cartoons sexuality but i care about cartoons that care about MY sexuality

[@PizzaFrog1]

It’s a real shame that this is the world we live in where a tv show can’t support LGBTQ without getting cancelled.

[@arnerippey3677]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@ricky18redblack31it’s a shame want to force evveryone to hate alphabets. Maybe, it isn’t cool.

[@Kaosxca]

Thats honestly sad. I wonder what Rebecca could do though if she had the network’s full support

[@ashuraomega7113]

Rebecca had originally planned 9 whole seasons for the show with the episodes surrounding change your mind during the end of the series being an entire season.

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

It's sad. Maybe Sugar could have at least toned down her efforts with neo-liberalism in a Conservative society just a tad bit.

[@staringcorgi6475]

⁠@@cerebrummaximus3762 it’s fine to do that but by conservative society you mean world as some countries have archiac views of life like iran who is violating human rights

[@zoe.r.4544]

​@@cerebrummaximus3762gay marriage is not exessively extreme

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

@@zoe.r.4544 It was literally illegal until a few years ago.

[@royaljunior2125]

wow, that's what happened? that's fucked up. but at the same time they did know the risks. at least they got a few send off episodes.

[@ladyilex]

they stuck to their values, knowing it likely meant the end for the series

[@foursidekm]

​@@ladyilex It's admirable honestly

[@What36868]

Yeah, the world's pretty s***** to the LGBTQ+ community in general.. it's pretty damn messed up. (Coming from a member of the community theirself; also ik there are allies, but there's still some less accepting people)

[@juanprada4410]

it is respectable, but I do not agree that it is admirable. the crew sacrifices the narrative for their work. Personally, having finished the story properly opened up and gave the series the place it deserves. apart from the fact that it was a series that taught extremely important values and in an intelligent way. a good program (from beginning to end) will get the message across to many more people. I feel nostalgic for this series, but I can't recommend it to many people, mostly because all the plots have ended with a hasty resolution. It ends up looking like it's more filler than plot. and makes her look somewhat immature.

[@Haphu15]

​@@juanprada4410then in that case should the owl house skip on the lgbt presentation if it meant getting a complete story and not a cut short season?

[@raeryuko]

I watched this show with my sister, in my country the 5 episodes that lead up to that episode was cut entirely lol, I had to download it somewhere else

[@DaltonIzHere]

You have to admit Rebecca’s bravery there. They _knew_ the show would likely get cancelled, they didn’t know if they were even gonna be given time to make a finale, but they did it anyways because that’s the reason for the show becoming a cult f*cking classic. SU became popular because of how innovative and brave it was, showing stuff that other shows wouldn’t. That may have been the reason it was cancelled, but at least the team had time to make _something_ out of the shitshow that the Network left them to.

[@Mohammed-bt7ui]

Nobody cares Doesn’t change the fact that is sht

[@koyrion]

​@@Mohammed-bt7uiYou're mad weird and a smooth brain

[@Milesm7]

Who's they?

[@DaltonIzHere]

@@Milesm7 ‘They’ is the crew who made the show.

[@Milesm7]

@@DaltonIzHere It is good to know that there are people who still use the pronoun “they” to talk about a group, and not about one person who thinks they are male and female at the same time.

[@elsnasdragonnet6959]

and that's why the "omg they redeemed space n-ris" is an empty critic. I genuily believe they wanted to tell something deeper but litterally couldn't

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

Nazis?

[@gasterg.continent3118]

​@@attackofthecopyrightbots yt sucks and sometimes censors comments but yeah the diamonds are nazis

[@AquaticManta]

It really doesn’t cost you anything to simply be nice to other people. My sibling is gay and non binary, they’ve known this since they were about 8 years old and they’ve been in a relationship with another woman since 2019, and I’m lucky enough to have grown up in an accepting family to where my sib can express this. I’ve never watched Steven Universe, it’s definitely on my watch list, but when I found out about the gay wedding I just felt really happy. It felt really good to see representation, especially because of how close I am with Jules (my siblings name). It’s sad that the show was cut short because of this but I’m happy that we at least got to see it in the first place

[@NeroGlitched]

aw :( stories like these are so wholesome yet saddening. i hope life becomes easier for both your sister and you

[@mihaitavraciu2248]

But she's apparently non-binary... So she isn't a girl... so how is her liking a woman gay?

[@AquaticManta]

@@mihaitavraciu2248 oh I didn’t even realize I put that, my bad

[@AquaticManta]

@@mihaitavraciu2248 I’d say it’s more of they just feel happy being called gay, we make jokes about it sometimes

[@mihaitavraciu2248]

@@AquaticManta oh alr have a nice day

[@swizzlesizzle281]

Steven universe walked so she ra and owl house could sprint 💀

[@funz6491]

I liked the she-ra ending tho

[@mr.cheese6631]

I fucking love she-ra though Catradora did feel rushed but that’s because Nate was told that Catra and Adora couldn’t be gay too but then they where allowed to have them as a couple for the last scene

[@AllenTheAnimator004]

The Legend of Korra: Am i a joke to you?

[@swizzlesizzle281]

@@AllenTheAnimator004 korra came out before SU I’m pretty sure

[@MARTIAANN]

She ra crawled but owl house bolted(at least after season 1)

[@jisaboy4622]

I still don’t get homophobia. The only reason people don’t like it other than religion is “iT’s wEIrD!!” Seriously?

[@DickVonSpit]

Wah wah go find another place to spread your pedophilia

[@maxwellmaxwell3042]

@@DickVonSpitTwo adults: sleep together You: how can I include kids in this?

[@DickVonSpit]

@@maxwellmaxwell3042 nah it’s the majority of the lgbt community that likes kids

[@maxwellmaxwell3042]

@@DickVonSpit Literally nobody is talking about kids but the moment you heard “sex” you needed kids to be involved. You’re a pedo, stop projecting.

[@supernova_29]

​​​@@DickVonSpit the lgbtq community ranges from age. yes there are pedophiles, but there's also a large amount of straight pedophiles... so idk what u saying.

[@moniker4008]

People give the show shit because of how it was displayed but they just don't know the absolute hell Rebecca and the crew went through to get the show to finish

[@adonaiguzman]

Homophobia is actually crazy

[@Rudnaz_127]

fr

[@thestrongestlivingcreature]

Phobia? Are they scared? Do they have the fairy frights?

[@greenneko8020]

​@@thestrongestlivingcreature "Gay people are so scary, I can't fathom the concept of love" - Homophobic people

[@BenHopkins1000]

@@thestrongestlivingcreatureIt’s practically a pastime for Hamas

[@smilingbatman4861]

​@@thestrongestlivingcreaturethat's just the term calm down lil bro

[@phousefilms]

Figured as much. Good thing Disney wasn't in charge of SU or they would have cancelled the show the second Ruby and Sapphire first kissed(in "Jail Break", the season 1 finale).

[@nicolaridolfi6510]

And honestly the finale, even though you can feel it's rushed, is still great. The confrontation between Steven and White Diamond still gives me chills.

[@sandwichmonster7067]

Off topic, but it’s crazy that gay marriage was only legalized here 8 years ago 💀 No wonder there are still a disappointingly high amount of 'phobes around

[@COMINGFORYOU-ov1tx]

Smegma ohio rizzler 8 year olds that think they're some army soldiers because they harass gay people and furries

[@misterm7486]

@@ricky18redblack31for the millionth time, it is a figure of speech and does not mean irrational fear like other phobia. It means discrimination

[@lazyatbeinglazy13]

It’s crazy how some people still see marriage as important as they do. It ain’t allat.

[@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462]

I never cared much for the show but I respected the writers for doing it.

[@spacesoccercowboy6091]

In other words, homophobia fucking sucks

[@agathahearth]

Dont attack other cultures. not cool

[@Septic_tank_owner]

nah it rules

[@incrediblesnn]

@@Septic_tank_owner nah it sucks

[@incrediblesnn]

@@agathahearth just because someone is from another culture, doesnt excuse being homophobic

[@agathahearth]

@@incrediblesnn dont attack other people’s religious beliefs. Not cool

[@SeroGrave]

I never knew that happened.. I’ve only ever seen clips of this show. To know the ending was rushed kinda dampens the desire to watch it fully.

[@NukaKawai]

still watch it plus the movie and the sequel show

[@camharkness]

I love looking through the comments snd seeing people being like "no, dont blame cartoon network for being homophobic, blame rebecca lololol"

[@AmyStrikesBack]

Most of the time a show feel rush is probably because it actually was and inside the Studio is hell

[@TheDigitalApple]

Also they didn’t have any writers, the story was literally “let’s see what happens from here”

[@AmyStrikesBack]

@@TheDigitalApple It was all storyboard based, with can work and did in the earlier seasons

[@R0-83-RT]

In the case of Manga, the creators are burnt out after drawing and coming up with new stories for years at a consistent schedule, with little time to rest.

[@foursidekm]

​​@@TheDigitalApple nah the series definitely had an outline. Its not like star vs where they just make up shit as they go along (though gravity falls did some of that and turned out great)

[@Starfish_Duder]

Well, if they didn't use half the Steven bombs as filler episodes, the ending might've been better.

[@Octobris]

Steven Bombs were never the creators' intention. It was the network.

[@Starfish_Duder]

@@Octobris The creators still decided to make half of it filler.

[@simplyn4732]

It’s the fact that gay rocks aren’t allowed but the fusion dance in coach Steven was? Makes sense. Also I’d personally be more concerned about them summoning weapons and using violence to solve problems

[@maniacaal]

Early on episodes about the residents of Beach city were perfectly fine but it really should have stopped by season 4

[@Iffondrel]

Plot-heavy cartoons are usually frowned upon by networks. Many cartoons are meant to be episodic in nature with self contained plots that appeal to wide audiences, rather than overarching stories that require context. Even "filler episodes" gave us moments of character growth and bonding. SU isn't an anime. It should've been allowed to go at its own pace, with it getting seasons for however long people continued to enjoy it like every other cartoon rather than being slammed for the messages it was trying to promote.

[@SheenFTW]

I'm not a huge fan of Steven Universe but hearing about this is just, really sad honestly.

[@ladyilex]

the show's perception in the public was greatly hurt by the rushed ending

[@khodibritton8368]

It was banned because it was too gay (as if there’s such a thing)

[@NEON_T4]

apparently their is

[@Septic_tank_owner]

any gay is too gay

[@baddealdude807]

man, if I had a nickel for every show that was cancelled for being too gay I would have... actually way more then 2 nickels

[@dakrabking]

Pretty much

[@AllenTheAnimator004]

​@@baddealdude807make that 3

[@Froaklies]

So weird that they ended up cutting Steven Universe short only to give them a movie and epilogue series almost immediately after. Although to be fair, both the Movie and Future didn't really feature anything that would get it censored overseas. Or at least I don't think they did?

[@Fogblitz]

Not to mention that CN weighed in a lot of the time during the production of the movie. They were the ones who wanted to have an “end of the world” high-stakes plot, and thankfully the Crewniverse gave us a wonderful movie out of that. As for SUF, that was on Rebecca Sugar who wanted to focus on mental health aspects and healing from trauma, which would have worked out wonderfully had we gotten more episodes to conclude the series with. I’m not complaining, though. They managed to get an ending and did what they loved, which is all I could ask for, but still, it makes you wonder how differently things could’ve turned out if the show got a proper ending to the season.

[@nirvallasparadise]

They were able to get an epilogue because they didn't just want to leave it off with the movie. Or so I heard.

[@kristilebym271]

The movie was great in my opinion

[@strawberrytea5987]

Thank you man. I genuinely was sad at the ending and was curious on why it ended that way for the LONGEST time.

[@harrypotteryescaillouno45]

I never saw the series, and I'll be patiently waiting for your video.

[@CedricThePlaystation]

I hope we have a Lapis and Peridot spin-off one day.

[@vidform]

If it's a comedy, they should base it on Sanford & Son.

[@majamystic256]

that or a spin off with Lars and the Off Colors on space adventures

[@CedricThePlaystation]

@@vidform Sort of. I would love to see Lapis and Peridot go on an intergalactic journey where Lapis meets an equal (a Turquoise perhaps?).

[@CedricThePlaystation]

@@majamystic256 perhaps a crossover during the Lapis and Peridot show.

[@ghastlygavin]

I'm still mad we didn't get at least one Nephrite/Centipeedle centered episode in SUF

[@HeisenbergFam]

Never a good sign when things are rushed

[@orbboom6119]

And even after being cancelled they still got a movie and an epilogue series💀 Could've had the wedding in Future and had a better ending to the original series

[@ladyilex]

@@orbboom6119 there's no way Future was a thing they knew would happen at the time

[@BiggiecheeseAKAgod]

Thank you Heisenburg, for your generic, no-shit, obvious comments that for some reason tons of people click the like button for.

[@orbboom6119]

@@ladyilex yes obviously but if even after getting cancelled, future happened. In a world where they didn't get cancelled and they wanted Future to happen it would've been easier, and the ending wouldn't have been rushed.

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

Solution: most people I know thought Ruby was male anyway, so just play on that in the dubs. He/She acted masculine anyway, and doesn't show stereotypical feminine traits anyway, so it's an easy fix. Sugar gave Ruby a wedding dress as a middle finger, but you can simply mask that as drag. Many shows have male characters wear female clothing as a joke, and I've seen shows where a stereotypical Andrew Tate sigma/alpha style male goes full in obsessing with the female clothing, so it could have easily been masked as one of those cases. Idk, seems like an easy fix.

[@axelwust9376]

On the one hand, gotta give them props for going ahead and making sure you couldn't skip the episode. On the other hand, they severely overestimated how much they could pull off if their funding got cut.

[@eva_art_0533]

The show was really lucky to get a movie and sequel show. Gives me hope for other shows

[@Goblinhandler]

Imagine ruining your show’s finale over a filler episode

[@GabrielAlves-ig6wh]

The marriage as filler..?

[@doriancarter964]

Imagine commenting without knowing a single thing about the show. Just so you know, the episode with the marriage is the same episode that had the diamonds arrive to earth and confront the Crystal gems head on, had the diamonds find out the truth about rose quartz, closed off the arc started in a single pale rose where the crystal gems find out the truth about Rose Quartz and nearly completely fall apart for a while, and, if my memory serves cause it has been a while since I’ve seen it, is also the episode they reintroduce bismuth, who’d been out of the picture for half the series at that point. It’s about as far from filler as you can get

[@130_]

So basically the show was rushed because of Homophobia

[@Fauwkes]

Hey, at least it ended

[@Vortex-ki4fg]

Yup

[@Vortex-ki4fg]

@@ricky18redblack31 1:phobia also means aversion, aversion can mean you hate something 2:OUR COMMUNITY ISNT POLITICAL

[@Fauwkes]

@@Vortex-ki4fg everything is political comrade. The fact that you admit its a community proves its political. No, phobia means fear

[@Vortex-ki4fg]

@@Fauwkes 1:words have multiple meanings, just look in a dictionary 2:other minority groups are also considered communities

[@unknownedleaf]

so sad people cant just like each other

[@mr-.-]

Hey Mark you probably won't remember this but about 2 year's ago I made a comment on your Clarence video jokingly saying steven universe was the greatest thing ever and Clarence was garbage. It was ment to be a joke making fun of the people the treet su like its flawless (I actually think the show is ok just not perfect) you respond and didn't know it was a joke. I don't remember exactly what you said but I think it was negative. I felt kinda Awkward about it since I'm a big fan of yours I just wanted to apologise for the misconception is all.

[@scrungful]

It didn't even need to be rushed. There was alot of unnecessary stuff

[@regabrielexv]

It's absurd that the more civilized part of the world has to plea to the homophobia of other countries

[@ObobWobob]

People have different cultures so you have to respect it

[@punilover9370]

"Civilized" doesnt mean better, in terms of ideologies standards and social value, poeple should respect each other,not adding a gay scene wont anger gay poeple and wont anger poeple who dont support them

[@Speedoodleman]

@@punilover9370 Not adding a gay scene won’t anger gay people but choosing to remove a gay scene that was planned beforehand will both anger them because you removed their representation and because you are also doing it to appease people who probably wouldn’t mind if they were dead for the most part

[@kurtmill9080]

Never understimate homophobia. But in truth its power is waning. Backlash is strong, but love is stronger.

[@stupideditcentral5485]

I think I would have been more accepting had I learned about homosexuality earlier.

[@capitatecab6049]

I do like how you empathize with both sides, i love cartoons and representation, specially in the time this was made, is so important but at the end of the day its a business first and foremost, they told them the risks and they shot anyway I think it came out well enough tbh

[@mh56487]

I love how they put ruby in the dress. Many countries used to dub ruby as a man since shes the more masculine looking of the two. Putting her in a dress and sapphire in the suit is a last little fuck you to the people censoring it. Also the fact that the wedding is right before a crucial plot line is super dope, cause that means the episode can't just be counted as Filler and skipped by some TV stations

[@VeryTastySoup87]

Love your videos Mark keep it up

[@bluey_zx]

ok out of topic but i really have to say this... why does his character look like a mexican candy mascot 😭

[@patrickkh1245]

I actually didnt Get the feeling it was rushed😁 i think they did a really good job

[@nashedpotatoes1285]

Despite all that I didn’t even feel like the ending was rushed. I just learned about this right as I watched this video and I think I’ve gained a whole new level of respect for the show

[@BlitzkriegOmega]

"canceled because gay" Is such a frustrating constant in the industry...

[@Not_Kaitlyn]

Maybe if the show was paced better and didn't have filler after filler episodes, then they wouldn't have had to rush.

[@giullianpadilla361]

FR why are people propagating this dumb myth that only because of it's gay themes it got cancelled? Lol Sounds extremely disingenuous and scummy if you ask me

[@giullianpadilla361]

The show wasted more time than it should that's the real reason as to why it was rushed

[@Not_Kaitlyn]

@@giullianpadilla361 fr, imagine waiting for weeks for a new episode bc of a hiatus, only for it to be about mayor dewey or some shit

[@clou.d.glas.s]

thats so sad:(( just because of gay marriage? thats really sad.

[@DickVonSpit]

W network

[@UnemployedStormtrooper]

@@DickVonSpit sorry she left you :(

[@micahscott3895]

@@DickVonSpit L homophobia

[@DickVonSpit]

@@UnemployedStormtrooper unemployed says it all

[@UnemployedStormtrooper]

@@DickVonSpit I have a job at an indoor water park dumbass 🤡

[@crescentblueee]

I really hate the idea that two people of the same gender being in love and getting married is such a bad thing. Ruby and Sapphire have a better relationship than most straight couples 😭

[@DX-222]

Good bait bro

[@GatorBoyCL]

In my opinion I never liked the show it was kinda stupid

[@TessfromKellstorpe]

Imagine how much more money/popularity CN could have gotten if they didnt cancel it

[@MichaGamePlay]

It's not like she wasted a ton of episodes on filler anyway

[@antismo9998]

It's not like she expected her show to be suddenly cutoff anyway

[@Panzermeiller]

​@@antismo9998she did exactly expect that tho

[@085665372]

I love the filler episodes tho. They feel home-y and are very comforting. I love watching people in beach city being just people and having their own lives.

[@doriancarter964]

The wedding wasn’t a known issue until production was starting (the earliest stages of production, but production none the less) so the earlier parts of the season were more or less locked in already. As far as what comes after the wedding, there isn’t any filler

[@MachineoftheRare]

Every show/movie has filler. If a show just got straight to the point it would be 4 episodes long

[@FuzzyMonster234]

Cant wait to see the video!!

[@Cade_The_Squirrel]

This just proves companies have zero care for artistic integrity.

[@Liam_219]

I feel like the ending is better once you look at it critically and understand the characters more. People always talk about “they redeemed the space nazis” but that’s entirely untrue. In fact by the end steven didn’t even like the diamonds yet. The diamonds only helped Steven because they saw him as pink diamond, which allowed him to slowly break down their views on homeworld, and finally when he defeated white it showed that they all needed to change, no matter how little they wanted to. And at the very end, Steven and white share a glance which slows that it will very much be a compromise. Neither one is smiling, they’re both looking at each other like “well I guess this is how it is now”

[@notrajkishornagar]

So they rushed to end the show cuz' of Homophobes? Damn!

[@ouch03]

I hate homophobes. Like, mind your own damn business, man.

[@zigzagzipbag6561]

The only thing I learned from Steven's Universe is that black people can't marry white people. Truly one of the shows of all time.

[@rosykindbunny1313]

B-but you can't be racist! Garnet says so!

[@pissbaby123]

"Kids, dont, be, racist."

[@MachineoftheRare]

Where did you get that from?

[@danatedawg1018]

That is pretty sad, but they had a lot of filler that could’ve been used for some good story…

[@GuruXD_]

I mean tbf we don't really now WHEN they got notified that the show was cancelled, and I *think* the show was planned for like 9 seasons, so they were probably very calm with their time before that

[@HollowMeowMeow]

The music was GOATED

[@MrPuzzleCodes]

Wait the ending was rushed? In my opinion it was an awesome ending. And no, its not cause of nostalgia, since i didnt see it as a kid cause the whole ending wasnt translated, due to the wedding episode most likely

[@skrub_king]

Nah i dont even care i always cry at garnet's wedding ong

[@thedoggobandit799]

Just another example of how the business industry ruins everything when it comes to monetization

[@LUKArio_LGZ]

Does that mean were getting every steven universe episode reviewed 😮😁🤔

[@cpji]

I’m hyped for the su video 🥳🥳🥳🥳

[@frootsnacc6790]

Let’s admire what Rebecca did though for the homophobic countries this would be in; she put Ruby in a dress because she knew some countries portrayed Ruby as the man in the relationship due to her masc appearance, meaning people would either be seeing a gay wedding or a marriage with the man in a dress. And she had the diamonds arrive at the end of the episode so that Cartoon Network couldn’t not air the episode, they had to or audiences would be pissed there was no context

[@wacawaka1802]

She sacrificed someone else’s thing for a political message. Why would I admire a selfish loser?

[@frootsnacc6790]

@@wacawaka1802 Someone else’s thing? This was *her* show. She’s bisexual. She deserves to be able to tell stories that cater to people like her.

[@wacawaka1802]

@@frootsnacc6790 that’s exactly the problem. She says it’s inclusive and lgbt but it’s quite homophobic to consider it that when it’s really just her fantasy.

[@frootsnacc6790]

@@wacawaka1802 ….excuse me? That makes no sense

[@sircartier2723]

​​@@wacawaka1802 How is Rebecca.S Homophobe? You've commented this multiple times without any backing.And it's her show

[@Animelovers-il8fr]

I love this show but I wished to see more like this it gives me nostalgic feeling

[@EdwardEstacado]

I could care less about all the gay space rocks the writing on its own is just awful.

[@AbsolutelyAri1]

True in some cases

[@EdwardEstacado]

@@AbsolutelyAri1 what parts of the writing did you like? I liked a lot of set ups they did with certain characters particularly peridot and lapis but they screwed both of them up 🤢

[@AbsolutelyAri1]

@@EdwardEstacado yeah that was what I was thinking about peridot also

[@EdwardEstacado]

@@AbsolutelyAri1 THEY DIDN'T EVEN FUSE TOGETHER WTF 😡😡😡 SO YOU HAD STEVEN SPEEDRUN FUSIONS WITH ALL HIS GEM FRIENDS AT THE VERY LAST EPISODE BUT YOU COULDN'T DO THIS 🔥🔥🔥🔥 it's stupid I know but it just pisses me off I just wanted to see these two fu... I mean fuse 😂😂😂 damn you Rebecca sugar lol

[@LunarMoonKitten]

✨Sapphic sapphire✨

[@Timmothy_plays]

.... Soo Rebecca shot herself in the foot by making that marriage episode air too soon knowing full well of the consequences,.. like, you'd think that if the marriage was so important then she'd save it until the final episode or one of the last in the *final* season. I mean, because of her own stubbornness she sabotaged her show.

[@jeremypool6888]

you know that the show comes out fully in the US before they put it on in other countries right? it wouldn't have matter if it was in the last episode or in the middle of the show, the same thing would have happened.

[@sociallyexhausted]

I think in a way this is so on brand. The show about acceptance, love, being who you are, and doing what you need to for the greater good gave up it's finale going smoothly and contract to push for love and acceptance

[@look-at-this-goofy-ahh-rat]

I feel like it would have been a better idea to have the wedding as the finale, after White Diamond helped earth, that way they weren’t forced to rush the last episodes.

[@Kuffkuff62]

If they wanted to ban it somewhere else it wouldn't take away too much from the plot and the eager viewers in other countries, it would've been a cute climactic ending, and the middle finger, to me, probably would have been more powerful since they included a gay marriage and got away with it. And, like you said, they wouldn't have to rush and it would probably make fans everywhere very satisfied and more happy with the ending, because you see how it being rush affected the viewers, everybody hated it.

[@Willowposting]

Just a reminder that if you THINK things have gotten better for queer folk, they haven't. We're still very much fighting for the right to even exist right now.