Scariest Air Traffic Control Conversations

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lucaas

lucaas

Күн бұрын

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@lucaas
@lucaas Жыл бұрын
A new video concept, please let me know your thoughts! And Christmas sweaters are now available at theaviationcentral.com/ -- get yours today!
@ReiZru
@ReiZru Жыл бұрын
Nice video, love the idea! One thought: specify the flight numbers instead of «Pilot» and «Other pilot» in subtitles. It's confusing, because there are two pilots on the one plane :-)
@BlueStratDude
@BlueStratDude Жыл бұрын
I love this concept and would welcome more videos like this. Thanks @lucaas!
@axeld2594
@axeld2594 Жыл бұрын
I want to be a pilot and this type of videos is very helpful and instructive, and it's also a good way to get used to the sound, a little difficult to understand sometimes
@cptkirkpyro5656
@cptkirkpyro5656 Жыл бұрын
hands down the best video format. maybe do a mix of the 2 types.
@InfiniX0001
@InfiniX0001 Жыл бұрын
W video
@ryabow
@ryabow 11 ай бұрын
"speed is... that doesn't look good." are truly words i never want to hear a pilot say.
@UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL
@UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL 6 ай бұрын
872 likes and 0 reply’s? Let me fix that
@ryabow
@ryabow 6 ай бұрын
@@UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL i appreciate you
@UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL
@UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL 5 ай бұрын
@@ryabow I don’t appreciate myself
@KinjiUrba
@KinjiUrba 5 ай бұрын
@@UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL I appreciate you both!
@c0r1nth14n_
@c0r1nth14n_ 5 ай бұрын
So happy to hear they made it! But yeah she keeeeeps on talking.
@Chuck59ish
@Chuck59ish Жыл бұрын
Those were scary, but the training and the professional calmness of both air and tower crew kicked in and did it's job. Well done to everyone involved.
@GigsTaggart
@GigsTaggart Жыл бұрын
hoonolulu sucked, kept stepping on people
@marktrain9498
@marktrain9498 Жыл бұрын
Well, the tower crew did well, anyway.
@Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger
@Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger Жыл бұрын
I'm not a pilot & I'm not going to pretend like I know what I'm talking about but on the last one when the pilots lost pressure made me think that there was crucial time lost when the Tower/ATC communicated with the pilots. For example, when the ATC did multiple "Filled Pauses". ie. "Um" @ 13:16 & 13:33 I'm wondering if because the ATC's training & experience to stay calm could hinder communications? When done correctly elevated stress especially in emergencies can greatly benefit your ability to comprehend logistics & surrounding environments.🤷‍♂️ *** I understand that the time between the ATC & Pilot communications to each other isn't real world. So because of this there is definitely a strong argument that it wouldn't have mattered. At least in this scenario...
@Chuck59ish
@Chuck59ish Жыл бұрын
@@Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger You have to remember that both the Tower and aircrew have check lists they have to go through when any incident happens and the tower is trying to get information to pass on to Emergency services, so a lot is happening on both ends at the same time, luckily other aircraft in the area saw the aircraft go down close to land and the Coast Guard were in the area.
@Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger
@Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger Жыл бұрын
@@Chuck59ish Yeah I can only imagine... I'll tell you this much. I'm completely comfortable with letting the pilots & ATC worry about all that stuff. I get nervous when I'm sitting in the emergency aisle. I feel like I'm going to forget the extra procedures.😏 That's not really saying much though because I can't even remember what I ate for breakfast the other day.😁
@ElliottRodgers
@ElliottRodgers 8 ай бұрын
Rhoades 810 being told cleared for any runway and then requesting coastguuard gave me goose bumps!
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 4 ай бұрын
So did how many times they had to tell ATC, they were in an emergency, b4 ATC finally listened.
@timarc9895
@timarc9895 Ай бұрын
that ATC was only using her training, no thoughts head empty type scenario. I'm glad the pilots and passenger are okay.
@sonicbhoc
@sonicbhoc 11 ай бұрын
I like that the guys assisting American 329 actually said "get back to me when your workload decreases" instead of just pestering the pilots.
@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr
@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr 6 ай бұрын
They’re trained to do that.
@AgentVamp
@AgentVamp 5 ай бұрын
@@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr But you don't hear about it often, that's the point sonic's getting at, so it's a nice surprise.
@jordanmiles2195
@jordanmiles2195 4 ай бұрын
I wish my boss would say that
@efulmer8675
@efulmer8675 2 ай бұрын
A common issue with pilots in unexpected situations is that they reach whats called "task saturation" where they are unable to add or change any workload because the load involved in flying the plane is reaching or beyond their ability to respond to new input. ATC and pilots are taught how to handle this situation but ATC has no real way of understanding what that limit is.
@1964mm
@1964mm Жыл бұрын
The most unfortunate part of the Rhoades 810 ditching is that they misdiagnosed Engine 1 as the failed engine when it was actually Engine 2. So, they shut down the good engine instead of the bad one.
@alisonwilson9749
@alisonwilson9749 Жыл бұрын
Like Kegworth...
@Shinka666
@Shinka666 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this I was actually curious because I know those planes are capable of flying and maintaining altitude with just 1 engine but obviously turning a jet into a glider is not going to maintain anything.
@ryanyoung7433
@ryanyoung7433 11 ай бұрын
Like, why dont they just restart it lul
@Shinka666
@Shinka666 11 ай бұрын
@@ryanyoung7433 From my understanding the APU has to be activated for at least 3 minutes prior to trying to start engine, so shutting off the wrong engine turned the plane from something that probably could have made it into something that had no chance.
@JoeCali12
@JoeCali12 11 ай бұрын
Oh man, is that true? So they didn't "lose" the second engine, they manually shut it down?
@Neodx2
@Neodx2 11 ай бұрын
It's amazing how calm these people can be in an endangerment of life
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 11 ай бұрын
It's exactly what you need. Going apeshit isn't going to help the situation. Training training training
@sephiroth4543
@sephiroth4543 11 ай бұрын
​@@kleetus92😂😂😂😂😂
@BirdTalk13
@BirdTalk13 10 ай бұрын
@@kleetus92Precisely! Always have confidence in, and rely on your Training.
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 10 ай бұрын
@@BirdTalk13 This is true in firefighting as well.
@Haihaihaihai7
@Haihaihaihai7 10 ай бұрын
It’s almost like that’s what they were trained their whole life to be like
@crystallineentity
@crystallineentity Жыл бұрын
More of these please man It's fantastic that when it gets super urgent that ATCs can clear everything and just say land any runway, anywhere.
@FUMan661
@FUMan661 Жыл бұрын
One word, "Emergency". If you declare one, we will move mountains for you.
@josipbagi
@josipbagi 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@FUMan661Ah, that was the first pilot’s mistake. Didn’t say “emergency”, so the mountain he was about to fly into couldn’t get moved 😂
@FUMan661
@FUMan661 11 ай бұрын
​@@josipbagi exactly. Oh well, live and learn. 🤣
@Matthew.images
@Matthew.images 10 ай бұрын
​@josipbagi plenty of paperwork when you declare emergency 😅
@arkfan5345
@arkfan5345 11 ай бұрын
how first guy who landed in water stayed calm through whole thing blows my mind. by looks horrible weather with horrible water. dark. and knowing your doing water landing. (one most dangrous landings you can do) Hats off for how he handled that.
@smitty1245
@smitty1245 7 ай бұрын
They both survived. They shut down their good engine by mistake, and pushed the failing one until it died completely.
@mushiim8
@mushiim8 6 ай бұрын
@@smitty1245tragic lapse of judgement but glad they made it out ok
@NameyMcNamerson
@NameyMcNamerson 9 ай бұрын
Me my first day as air traffic controller: “Sorry bro I can’t understand anything you’re saying. You’re talking way to fast
@kadarat8343
@kadarat8343 6 ай бұрын
"slow is smooth. smooth is fast"
@Youraverageguy-c4m
@Youraverageguy-c4m Ай бұрын
Did you get fired
@nclsDesign
@nclsDesign Ай бұрын
@@kadarat8343 I heard that one last time when we were talking about the clutch in the car LMAO
@goodchannel553
@goodchannel553 Ай бұрын
@@Youraverageguy-c4mITS A JOKE
@Ithinkiwill66
@Ithinkiwill66 23 күн бұрын
Yes...sometimes sounds like at a drive-thru 😂
@DaJermm
@DaJermm Жыл бұрын
The fact that you can hear the master caution alarm blaring in the back is terrifying 13:58
@interruptinuse
@interruptinuse 4 ай бұрын
That's the cabin altitude alarm, and it can't be recalled with the master caution button, only with the tiny "Altitude horn cutout" button on the overhead panel next to the pressurization controls. ... I may or may not have had to take off in a flight sim with an entry door still open and climb to 10k feet to learn this...
@parker02311
@parker02311 Жыл бұрын
The ditching off of Oahu was caused because the pilots misidentified the failing engine and shutdown their only working engine, the damaged engine was unable to provide the power needed to return to the airport. Both pilots survived thanks to the effort by the coast guard and local ships.
@bonnie3232
@bonnie3232 11 ай бұрын
I am so in awe of how calm the controllers and pilots are in these situations. As an RN, staying calm was essential in emergencies. I cannot imagine being in a hurtling airplane!
@Jerrynyc424
@Jerrynyc424 7 ай бұрын
@@bonnie3232yeah me too as a Bronx firemen… we definitely don’t use the word thank you… as a recall.. the first arriving chief at 9/11 went on the air and screamed “ 10-60 send me everything you got” 10-60 is radio code which means major emergency
@vasiovasio
@vasiovasio 11 ай бұрын
Wow! The first clip is INSANE! She is so, So Calm and Professional! If that's me ( and of course that will Never happen) I will SCREAM Non-Stop - RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHTTTTT >>>>>>>
@Justicia007
@Justicia007 8 ай бұрын
She was fantastic!! Kept it together and spoke very quickly and was able to get all the information across. That was a really tense moment.
@Jerrynyc424
@Jerrynyc424 7 ай бұрын
As a firemen in da Bronx USA… these pilots are brave and get my total respect… How calm the remained is unbelievable….. knowing the plane was going down into the water….
@dareal5401
@dareal5401 4 ай бұрын
thanks for your opinion as a fireman in da bronx usa
@Glen_lastname
@Glen_lastname Жыл бұрын
Both people surviving a water ditching is impressive flying
@Glen_lastname
@Glen_lastname Жыл бұрын
I should note all of it is impressive flying, but ditchings don't normally end with a 100% success rate
@anacampanita21
@anacampanita21 Жыл бұрын
Impressive ditching sure, but it shouldn’t have happened in the first place. They shut down their only good engine after improperly doing the checklist.
@sloth0jr
@sloth0jr Жыл бұрын
That Hong Kong ATC - cool as ice. Amazing work.
@BirdTalk13
@BirdTalk13 10 ай бұрын
Very!
@Kemjisuper
@Kemjisuper 8 ай бұрын
I bet the ATC was wearing some cool dark shades as well! 😎
@thumpertorque_
@thumpertorque_ Ай бұрын
If I were the pilot, I'd take her on an Island vacay. 😎😉
@sugarpoultry
@sugarpoultry Жыл бұрын
These are awesome, lucaas! Hope to see more! Always impressed by how calm the pilots and ATC are in these scary emergencies. Clear signs of *aviate, navigate, and communicate* rules in an emergency, in case others wondered why the pilots didn't respond right away to ATC.
@Yes_I_am_a_Pigeon
@Yes_I_am_a_Pigeon Жыл бұрын
111 likes but no comments? lemme fix that
@bunglejoy3645
@bunglejoy3645 Жыл бұрын
Well let's hope that's what it was that they were dealing eith a flight issue , but a quick ATC controller who stayed calm you like to think good but do soon after take off you do have yo think about other intentions either way the ATC controller saved a lot of lives I guess the pilots would have to explain what it was about
@Evan-I
@Evan-I 8 ай бұрын
Lucaas, if I have one request from you though, it’s to PLEASE CHANGE THE VOICE
@emilyau8023
@emilyau8023 10 ай бұрын
Hearing "how many souls on board?" gives me chills.
@cynicalbeotch
@cynicalbeotch 10 ай бұрын
Curious, I just came across these recordings; why do they say "souls"?
@Sarah-kc3fb
@Sarah-kc3fb 10 ай бұрын
@@cynicalbeotch standard aviation talk. Includes all people on board, so passengers and crew.
@oobenoob
@oobenoob 9 ай бұрын
In UK we say P.O.B. (persons onboard). I guess in USA they say souls.
@gimmeallthebingbong
@gimmeallthebingbong 8 ай бұрын
@@oobenoobwrong. “Souls on board” is a gobal term in aviation.
@Melissa-SC73
@Melissa-SC73 8 ай бұрын
Me too.
@enalv6438
@enalv6438 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the new video format looks amazing! I really like it! Especially the timelapses of planes and airports!
@lucaas
@lucaas Жыл бұрын
I appreciate it!
@Folfah
@Folfah Жыл бұрын
lol furry with stolen google pfp. get your own art, thief
@CarsonUitermarkt
@CarsonUitermarkt Жыл бұрын
As for the aircraft with the loss of pressure, the "alarms sounding" in the background was indeed the cabin altitude alarm. I'm sure the controller could immediately tell what the issue was upon hearing that.
@Jetpusher
@Jetpusher Жыл бұрын
"Uhhhh 'merican 329 whats yo- *BRR BRR BRR BRR BRR* "I see"
@gregschmidt62
@gregschmidt62 Жыл бұрын
Disagree. When the controller heard the alarm sounding, I'm sure that they could immediately tell that there was a problem - but it's unlikely that they could identify what the specific problem was. An Air Traffic Controller may or may not be a pilot in their spare time, but it's not part of their job requirement to be able to fly. Even if the Controller is a trained pilot, it's extremely unlikely that they're trained in the specific aircraft type that has the problem.
@atcJ
@atcJ 11 ай бұрын
As a controller, aircraft beeps coming through the mic mean nothing to me, but maybe some controllers with pilot experience would know.
@eric55406
@eric55406 10 ай бұрын
ATC are usually amazing at their jobs but no they don't all have pilot experience. A colleague of mine previously did tower control for a military airfield and he controlled fast jets and cargo planes and VIP planes but never flew anything.
@jayvardhanbhaskar7486
@jayvardhanbhaskar7486 9 ай бұрын
The off - duty pilot incident has been covered in detail by @Mentour Pilot on youtube.. Highly recommend it for understanding why he tried to shut the engines off.. (For those who are interested)... Overall a great video man... Would like to see more of these...... You my man just earned a subscription.... Keep it up...
@marcd1981
@marcd1981 Жыл бұрын
The professionalism of the controllers and pilots is very impressive. You could hear a little stress in the controller for the aircraft that landed in the water, but she handled it expertly. The thing I was wondering, especially in the first two incidents, was why were the radios so garbled if they just took off from the airport they were communicating with? It would seem being that close, the transmission would be much better.
@krostouin
@krostouin Жыл бұрын
I don't even understand how pilots are able to talk on radio. Between the quality of the signal and fast unarticulated english, I can barely catch half the words.
@ma9x795
@ma9x795 Жыл бұрын
@@krostouin You get an ear for it with a bit of practice. Usually you're expecting a certain type of information in a certain format so that helps too.
@kuebbisch
@kuebbisch Жыл бұрын
The audio was most likely received and published on LiveATC by volunteers nearby but with inferior equipment like a VHF scanner and short antennas placed on a house, not on a tower. These aren't the official audio tapes recorded by ATC. Pilots and ATC would have better reception.
@StevePorter_au
@StevePorter_au Жыл бұрын
I suspect the Hawaii one was due to someone else trying to transmit at the same time. T2 said he was trying to contact tower, could have been him.
@marcd1981
@marcd1981 Жыл бұрын
@@krostouin I was thinking about that as well. They do get used to their "language" of ATC - Pilot talk after enough experience, but in some foreign countries, it still has to be difficult.
@skimmer8774
@skimmer8774 Жыл бұрын
I hope the crew of 428 took time to personally thank ATC for saving their lives. Whew . Also great video.
@RobisonRacing68
@RobisonRacing68 Жыл бұрын
That ditching clip was painful with all the interference.
@Mash4096
@Mash4096 Жыл бұрын
The "interference" was the Honolulu ATC kept stepping on the pilot's transmissions before he finished his sentences. Sometimes he wasn't even halfway his sentence when ATC started talking over him. Making things very confusing for both sides.
@richardeichelberger5031
@richardeichelberger5031 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, she was awfully quick on the button. 😳
@RadioactiveSherbet
@RadioactiveSherbet Жыл бұрын
@@Mash4096 Yeah. The lack radio discipline was jarring.
@GovernorRiffRaff
@GovernorRiffRaff Жыл бұрын
I’m just a layman in this so take it with a grain of salt but that pilot was hard to listen to as well.
@texas975
@texas975 5 ай бұрын
​@@GovernorRiffRaffyeah because he had a situation in his hands so it's understandable,the woman on the other hand was overstepping for no reason
@wmxx2000
@wmxx2000 6 ай бұрын
2059 - Apparently the off duty pilot was coming down from a bad mushroom trip. He thought he was living a nightmare and tried to crash the plane so he would "wake up."
@annabethwivell327
@annabethwivell327 Жыл бұрын
You should do another series of these including FedEx Flight 705 which was an incident in the 1990’s when an off-duty pilot attacked the pilots and tried to hijack the aircraft. The pilots acted heroically to subdue him and eventually succeeded but not without serious injury to all three of them, and to the would-be hijacker. Later all the pilots were awarded a gold medal for heroism. I actually expected the attempted hijacking incident in this video to be FedEx flight 705, but the one in the video was certainly terrifying too, though the outcome was less dramatic as it turned out.
@kittehkat-c5l
@kittehkat-c5l 3 ай бұрын
i could never be so calm in situations of panic, kudos to them
@kiley-qn4xk
@kiley-qn4xk 5 ай бұрын
Me:* watching scary aircraft conversations * KZbin: * proceeds to show airline adds *
@shaund9759
@shaund9759 Жыл бұрын
Once a threat level 4, it remains a threat level 4 until the person is off the aircraft.
@JZillaRageS
@JZillaRageS 3 ай бұрын
I was under the impression its threat level was over 9000
@Mehdi-gp6pq
@Mehdi-gp6pq Жыл бұрын
the rhoades express 810 pilot was so calm as well. Respect !
@Mash4096
@Mash4096 Жыл бұрын
he was even calmer than the controller for sure
@GovernorRiffRaff
@GovernorRiffRaff Жыл бұрын
Maybe a little too calm lol
@duikaserver
@duikaserver Жыл бұрын
Don’t think I’ve seen so many blocked calls by a controller…
@fabi1074
@fabi1074 Жыл бұрын
Honestly it was kind of irritating.. there was no patience or courtesy to each other. They both constantly stepped on eachothers comms without letting the other finish the transmission..
@beenthere7962
@beenthere7962 11 ай бұрын
Airline Pilot here. Terrible comms between ATC and the pilots.
@thekill2509
@thekill2509 11 ай бұрын
That controller needs some serious retraining. The flight declared an emergency, and she still instructed them to turn to V2 and continue outbound TWO MORE TIMES. Clueless.
@BirdTalk13
@BirdTalk13 10 ай бұрын
@@thekill2509I concur!
@danielle_wheels
@danielle_wheels 7 ай бұрын
Comms are awful
@MildlyFrustrated
@MildlyFrustrated Жыл бұрын
8:29 imagine the situation the pilots faced as their plane is mere meters above the sea
@CrossWindsPat
@CrossWindsPat Жыл бұрын
Kept it cool all the way down too.
@superhans85
@superhans85 Жыл бұрын
Yeh and ditching in the dark as well. Terrifying
@TheLastArbiter
@TheLastArbiter 11 ай бұрын
That second one in Hawaii seemed like pilot and controller were not very experienced. Either of them should have realized Kalaeloa was probably doable, but she mentioned it way too late. Seems like they could have made it there
@ashegam
@ashegam Жыл бұрын
Great format, just wish you would add more color to each situation. You pretty much say everyone was safe and end it. With anticipation so high, it would be nice to hear additional details like the aftermath, cause, etc. rather then the abrupt endings. cheers!
@anastasiavincent4619
@anastasiavincent4619 Жыл бұрын
😊
@nope-z5y
@nope-z5y 2 ай бұрын
Not only do I respect ATCs for the ability to remain calm under pressure, but I also really respect their ability to understand complete mush-mouth pilots.
@sockjim9016
@sockjim9016 Жыл бұрын
I’d heard about the Rhoades Express incident in other videos and from reading about it, so while that clip was playing I slowly started to realize it was that same flight. It was a really cool feeling to have that realization!
@thijszeilman8810
@thijszeilman8810 Жыл бұрын
Communication in the second video is ridiculous. The ATC is constantly talking while the pilot is talking to her….
@ryangibb7217
@ryangibb7217 Жыл бұрын
Agreed I would expect a highly paid air traffic controller to perform better than that!
@Bovafett
@Bovafett Жыл бұрын
That was very frustrating, all the blocked radio traffic
@Mash4096
@Mash4096 Жыл бұрын
sometimes he wasn't even halfway his sentence when she steps on his transmissions.
@KatTheFoxtaur
@KatTheFoxtaur Жыл бұрын
Jeez, Honolulu ATC doesn't like waiting for people to finish talking before interrupting and stepping on them...
@Folfah
@Folfah Жыл бұрын
lool furry
@glenbearh9109
@glenbearh9109 9 ай бұрын
Excellent jon by Rhodes emergency controller. She was upset but stayed cool. Her voice showed great concern
@stillthakoolest
@stillthakoolest Жыл бұрын
That Honolulu controller needs to learn to let people finish their transmissions. She was talking over everyone
@TheGonkDroid
@TheGonkDroid Жыл бұрын
As a pilot she mad my blood boil
@kadarat8343
@kadarat8343 6 ай бұрын
As a controller, I have nothing but respect for that woman. She was under an extreme amount of stress managing an aircraft with inexperienced pilots, calling the emergency vehicles, clearing not one but Both of her runways so that they might have the Opportunity to land safely If they had managed to get close enough, vectoring the distressed aircraft to the other airport, then having to contact that new airport to alert them of the AC coming towards them, not to Mention dealing with the multiple other aircraft on her freqs trying to land/take off. You are not the only plane in the sky bub. Cut her some slack man.
@albinoguidedog
@albinoguidedog Жыл бұрын
That second atc needs some serious training. She constantly keep stepping on 810.
@bunglejoy3645
@bunglejoy3645 Жыл бұрын
I think they were having trouble hearing her thed got a problem I eould say the e got oxygen masks on why as moo e developed microphones inside pilots and air stewardess oxygen masks wee passengers ideally as well, if I was married and 2as hoping on holiday with loved ones if we know we were going to crash I'd want to say to person I love you etc she sounded ecpasarted I guess she was shocked when plane had gone down in sea, I never heard her say when captain said we've got problems has your oxygen masks come done, if they said yes we'll the ATC could have then said don't go below blah very sad
@jnh8381
@jnh8381 Жыл бұрын
someone call 911, @@bunglejoy3645 is having a stroke!
@KomradeDoge
@KomradeDoge 10 ай бұрын
​@@bunglejoy3645 the depressurizing plane was different from the one who had ATC stepping on them.
@Maan_Arora
@Maan_Arora Жыл бұрын
On the Rhodes Express 810, actually only engine number 2 was lost but they misidentified and instead thought number one was lost which caused this whole thing, if they would have moved both the throttle sticks instead of only the one for the engine 2, they would be able to perfectly land. the pilot who spoke had actually been through 4 engine failures, but he had a lot of respect for the first officer because the first officer hadn’t ever been wrong in anything in front of the captain, that’s why when the first officer said engine 1 was the failed one, the captain went along with it
@biosparkles9442
@biosparkles9442 11 ай бұрын
the captain was also distracted talking to ATC, and I'm sure all the stepping didn't help with that
@ghostinng274
@ghostinng274 4 ай бұрын
"thank you very much" she was being their guardian angel in that moment. Couldn't imagine her horror when they weren't responding.
@veinz3401
@veinz3401 Жыл бұрын
Tower at Honolulu did a very bad job, they could have asked them if they would prefer to land at Kalaeloa MUCH earlier in their flight.
@Su-27-w6m
@Su-27-w6m 7 ай бұрын
Pilots on flight 810 thought engine 1 was broken when it was the working one
@kadarat8343
@kadarat8343 6 ай бұрын
Cut her some slack man she had a lot of shit going on behind the scenes trying to call the crash trucks, communicate w/ the rest of the twr, clear her RYs, And vector those two back? It's a lot of phraseology to spit and shit to manage. + Having them land at Kalaeloa so late she'd essentially have to redo a bunch of what she had already done calling the other airport to tell them what is happening would've taken several minutes she didn't have. We're told early in our training 'dont hand off a shit sandwhich' from what I saw I'm bettin' that was what she was trying to avoid. not sayin' she was totally in the right I'm just saying maybe we should be a little bit more compassionate before passing judgement.
@Su-27-w6m
@Su-27-w6m 6 ай бұрын
Its not ATC fault the plane crashed because the pilots thought engine 2 was working fine and that engine 1 is the faulty one when engine 1 was the working one and they increased power to the faulty engine 2 which caused them to ditch
@Su-27-w6m
@Su-27-w6m 6 ай бұрын
So the crash happened because of pilot error not ATC error
@germangallardo
@germangallardo Жыл бұрын
Hawaii controller just stepping over and loosing all essential communications. Had a real stress
@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut
@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut 2 ай бұрын
Hearing "mayday mayday mayday" and then immediate silence, only to hear alarms blaring next would make my pulse go through the roof as ATC lol
@lpr6585
@lpr6585 Жыл бұрын
The ditching one, isn't that the one where the pilots mistakenly shut down the wrong engine ?
@Meeposaurus
@Meeposaurus 13 күн бұрын
Yes
@yygamersvs
@yygamersvs Жыл бұрын
Very entertaining! Thank you for this Lucas, much appreciated!
@krystleaikens8687
@krystleaikens8687 4 ай бұрын
Man 😢😢😢...I am so amazed at how pilots stay so calm in these situations 💔😭
@marcohueber5130
@marcohueber5130 Жыл бұрын
The ATC tower of the ditching accident was the worst tower I've ever heard, she kept interfering all the time way before they could finish their speech, she definitely should have waited just 2 seconds more before pushing the button, it would have eliminated literally every single interference...
@GovernorRiffRaff
@GovernorRiffRaff Жыл бұрын
They both were interrupting each other. Maybe it’s better to let the pilot talk but he was pretty slow to relay any information and she was way too quick to keep asking.
@thekill2509
@thekill2509 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, she was really bad.
@pricesmith1793
@pricesmith1793 6 ай бұрын
feels like some of these narrators have never spoken to a human in their lives
@maciejmusia9680
@maciejmusia9680 Жыл бұрын
This format is great, really interesting, but I have one suggestion: please make sure there is a pause between the stories. I didn't even have time to think "OOOFF the pilots survived ditching" and the next story started already. You know, I was "in a moment", a bit emotional... and suddenly next thing starts. I needed a second or two after the last one. But overall this concept is really cool.
@lucaas
@lucaas Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback!
@sunshineflyer
@sunshineflyer Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The monotonous delivery also makes it difficult. Try separators such as “in another story…”
@kashsres1064
@kashsres1064 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why that honolulu atc kept that flight 810 on hold when he wanted to come back and land beside one of his engine was out already. That’s an emergency and she told him to maintain at 2k feet. When she cleared everything up for them it was clearly too late.
@kadarat8343
@kadarat8343 6 ай бұрын
it's more complicated than that. She was probably on the crash phone alerting the trucks of the AC in distress + waving off who knows how many other aircraft trying to land so she could get both her RYs clear for him. I'm not saying she was perfect but I think we could all stand to show a bit of compassion.
@FlyGuy2000
@FlyGuy2000 Жыл бұрын
This was great Lucaas, really enjoyed it! Thankfully, no on was injured!
@3rdandlong
@3rdandlong 11 ай бұрын
That dude who tried to crash the plane that landed at PDX was about as big a news event as the Horizon ground crew dude who stole the plane several years ago, took off, and eventually crashed near Sea-Tac. But he was mentally off balance anyway.
@lamarpray5324
@lamarpray5324 Ай бұрын
The tower controller handling Rhoades Express 810 was very professional and yet caring and compassionate all at once. Need more people like her in the world
@donnabella1018
@donnabella1018 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. The professionalism and calmness are incredible! I feel I am having panic attacks just by watching the videos…
@bjornsommer8429
@bjornsommer8429 Жыл бұрын
Wow, very entertaining! I'd like to see (hear) more of this stuff. Much appreciated!
@voiceofjeff
@voiceofjeff 10 ай бұрын
The Roades 810 video... it's amazing to me that even though ATC and the pilot were very calm, they both seem to have needed more training on how to use a radio. They kept talking over each other, thus NOT getting their transmissions delivered. Stuff like this is what adds more danger on top of al already disaster.
@JFirn86Q
@JFirn86Q Жыл бұрын
Man the Honolulu controller needs to calm down and wait for transmissions to finish. Lots of confusions and missed information because they were trying to fire back so fast. Slow down, it is not JFK and it's an emergency. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
@aaeri2004
@aaeri2004 Жыл бұрын
Gosh! ATC almost cut off Rhodes Exp 810 on almost all transmissions, and she isn’t the one with a failed engine and loosing altitude! The crew had to repeat so many transmissions!
@christianvr7805
@christianvr7805 9 ай бұрын
Jesus and God loves everyone so much turn to them before its to late
@aaeri2004
@aaeri2004 8 ай бұрын
​@@christianvr7805 Please keep God and miracles out of aviation please. Are you suggesting God wasn't there for the number of crashes of the Boeing 737 Max, MH370, AF447 etc??
@cara.777
@cara.777 8 ай бұрын
I don’t understand, she was quick and clear the pilot wasn’t. The whole problem was caused by the first officer and pilot. They had to repeat because they weren’t being clear how is that her fault.
@aaeri2004
@aaeri2004 8 ай бұрын
@@cara.777 that controller needs to get some basic training. She stepped on almost all the transmissions made by the pilots, even when they declared an emergency and also when they said they might loose the other engine too.. That should have jump started her brain to give them the shortest vector possible. As an after thought, she tell them about the other airfield which was just 3 miles off to their left. Please compare this transmission with the ATC that handled Capt Sully's emergency. Cheers! 🍺🍺 Safe flights 👍🏻👍🏻
@RMBlake007
@RMBlake007 6 ай бұрын
@@aaeri2004 The ATC in Honalulu was not the only radio traffic that was causing the 'blocked' transmissions. The Rhodes Express 809 was also in the air and wanting to land. Some of that traffic caused the interference between 810 and the ATC.
@AlexFlies
@AlexFlies Жыл бұрын
3:06 wow that controller is one of the worst I've heard. I could barely listen to that clip anymore
@mobius7089
@mobius7089 Жыл бұрын
She was just fine, there was a lot of mutual stepping at the beginning causing the confusion. The steps also occurred at what would normally be a break in the transmission. Also, she had significant workload as it seems she's working tower and approach/departure radar ops for some reason.
@AlexFlies
@AlexFlies Жыл бұрын
@@mobius7089 She kept stepping on him, making him repeat transmissions, and couldnt understand anything going on. She did get better towards the end
@callummclachlan4771
@callummclachlan4771 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexFlies Maybe it was the first time she had an emergency. Of course ATC has to be professional and have the training. But there's still a massive difference between a simulated emergency and a real one, can't imagine anything could prepare you for the real thing. Not justifying some of it, but it's a stressful situation and something you can only really experience for real. Hence why she calmed down towards the end.
@Rex08685
@Rex08685 5 ай бұрын
Ain’t no way I saw my house 😮😮😮😮😮😮 0:50
@Pipkrabbendam
@Pipkrabbendam 4 ай бұрын
Where?
@MrEngotti
@MrEngotti 6 ай бұрын
I’m surprised they can understand each other, the communication between them is so blurry
@speeter6345
@speeter6345 Жыл бұрын
The Rhoades 810 actually shut down the wrong engine, otherwise, they would've made it
@Meisha-san
@Meisha-san Жыл бұрын
What a selection of incidents!! I was on the edge of my seat 😳
@douglasfoster2215
@douglasfoster2215 Жыл бұрын
The most intense thing you hear someone ask you is how many souls on board. The question must be asked but wow....
@darrensjames
@darrensjames Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Lucaas, that was a brilliantly intense video. Well done on sharing it with us, cheers.
@AKsASMRR
@AKsASMRR Жыл бұрын
Flying a plane is like using an etch-a-sketch
@SirFloofy001
@SirFloofy001 Жыл бұрын
3:54 Well if you LET HIM FINISH and NOT TALK OVER HIM maybe he would have heard you the first time!
@jenesisjones6706
@jenesisjones6706 Жыл бұрын
Love the new concept- edge of the seat stuff! 2 thumbs up!
@Mikey__Mike
@Mikey__Mike Жыл бұрын
This is a serious interesting video! I hate to ask but want to…can we have some more of these type videos too? Thank you much love
@chickenpoweder
@chickenpoweder Жыл бұрын
Well produced video! Visuals were very addicting and satisfying to watch, kudos.
@Lee-n2n1t
@Lee-n2n1t 7 ай бұрын
They really are addicting! ❤
@O_79
@O_79 Жыл бұрын
please make more of these, theyre great
@Alexiosftw
@Alexiosftw Жыл бұрын
The American Airlines comms transcript seemed a little chaotic but given that so much was going on in that cockpit at the time it seemed to be handled pretty well. The alarm sounding is the cabin altitude alarm for the Boeing 737 so it was a pressurization issue.
@TheRealYashNotFake
@TheRealYashNotFake Жыл бұрын
Isn't it the exact same alarm as the 737 takeoff config?
@Alexiosftw
@Alexiosftw Жыл бұрын
Yes it is but Boeing likely used the same horn because the two scenarios in which they would sound are very different from each other and would be easy to differentiate which horn signified what based on the stage of flight
@norgeyu
@norgeyu Жыл бұрын
I love it, and i hate it... I work at Serbian ATC, technical dep, and i'm one of the guys that plays back the "video situation"... Luckily, in 36 years, personally, i had only one, military accident... BTW, love your work.
@judet2992
@judet2992 Жыл бұрын
Nice work from everyone involved.
@H3liosphan
@H3liosphan Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you can call that a hijacking, that suggested he wanted control of the plane, no he wanted to crash the plane - letting off the engine fire suppression system means effectively rendering the engines useless as they will not restart afterwards. That was a suicide attempt.
@Creminson
@Creminson Жыл бұрын
Everyone nailed their jobs it's really reassuring to be honest
@shivrajjadeja7678
@shivrajjadeja7678 Жыл бұрын
i loved this concept vro its very interesting hoping to see more of these videos
@TheButterZone
@TheButterZone 10 ай бұрын
Rhoades comms were brutal with all the doubling.
@ksm1985
@ksm1985 Жыл бұрын
That's a nice change of video. Thanks for that upload. Are you from India? Respect.
@amandak.4246
@amandak.4246 14 күн бұрын
he sounds eastern european, not at all indian
@Vousie
@Vousie 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting radio conversations, and thank you for both the subtitles and for the map showing where the plane is, but *please* sort out the relative volume between your voice over and the radio recordings. I kept having to turn the volume up to hear what the radio conversations were saying, and then having to turn it back down when your voice came thundering through afterwards.
@ArchitectGG
@ArchitectGG 11 ай бұрын
Whoever hired the second ATC needs to be fired themselves. And to then have the audacity to give T2 attitude when you've just almost doomed two pilots... despicable.
@Totoplok
@Totoplok Жыл бұрын
Really liked the concept bc you explain a bit more of everything, but it will be good if you continue with the other videos.
@jacksonm.6549
@jacksonm.6549 11 ай бұрын
Watching this after landing from an international flight. I would not have lasted the first 8 minutes if I were preparing for my next flight!
@arthurfrost9004
@arthurfrost9004 Жыл бұрын
I never knew they refer to passengers and personnel as souls
@DopeyFish
@DopeyFish Жыл бұрын
it's passengers+crew
@christinegerard4974
@christinegerard4974 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for those fantastic stories ! From France .
@ChiliStyles
@ChiliStyles Жыл бұрын
You think the other Rhoades flight would stop talking on radio so the emergency traffic could talk. Thats so much time wasted.
@DerangedScout
@DerangedScout Жыл бұрын
This style of video is very entertaining, would love to see more of them :0
@Deion245
@Deion245 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids
@robaweku1339
@robaweku1339 Жыл бұрын
This layout and video User Interface Design is well done. All in RT
@oscgra9416
@oscgra9416 Жыл бұрын
Very Good video. Interesting with a new type of video.
@joeg5414
@joeg5414 Жыл бұрын
Nice! How have I been missing these long videos? wtf
@justinwalker4475
@justinwalker4475 7 ай бұрын
WHAT... I have no idea how the pilots and tower understand eachother
@LucyKosaki
@LucyKosaki 6 ай бұрын
despite how unfortunate the misidentification of the lost engine was, props to them for landing an airplane in the water in the dark with no life lost.
@nachoconqueso1344
@nachoconqueso1344 Жыл бұрын
i really like this new video concept i hope you continue with it :)
@WhyuhereE
@WhyuhereE Жыл бұрын
Bro made the entire intro Rhyme and thought we would notice
@Roses-b7j
@Roses-b7j 3 ай бұрын
The ad I got before this was a laundry machine eating up a shirt…
@RobertoRubio-ij3ms
@RobertoRubio-ij3ms 10 ай бұрын
What's with the Honolulu Tower ATC? Is it normal to overmodulate like that?
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