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0:00 Upcoming MMOs
0:48 ArcheAge 2
5:26 Ghost
10:13 Ark 2
12:02 Tarisland
12:45 Lord of the Rings Amazon MMO
15:09 Quinfall
17:01 Odyssey (Blizzard)
20:15 Horizon Online
21:35 Project LLL
23:25 Soulframe
25:20 Dune Awakening
28:25 Throne and Liberty
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38:57 ZOS MMO
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[@LuckyGhost]

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[@shperax]

To be fair. Steven from AoC has openly admitted many times that lots of ideas and systems have come from Archeage. The whole trade route system came from Archeage albeit totally refined to be better.

[@annasesay1]

​@@shperaxaaĺ l q

[@jchinckley]

Seamless open world bigger than WoW is currently right out the gate... yeah, I'm dreamin'

[@NachoManRandySandwich]

The era of good games ended years ago. I highly doubt I'll see another new game for many years

[@kitemaywilder1792]

i don't mind load screens if the game is fun like guild wars 2 is

[@1skrmsp1]

As a Korean American who has suffered enough of NC Soft's bullshit, I am sincerely beginning all Western gamers to ignore anything that has NC Soft's name attached. If you think EA and Activison is bad, wait until you meet NC Soft and Lineage monetization model. NC Soft cannot make any game that is outside of its monetization framework. You dont know whats the meaning of "pay to win" until you played Lineage. We are talking $1 million dollar level monetization. People selling houses to buy game items. Even EVE doesnt make you pay like that...

[@dododede875]

Same here… and not that it’s just insane P2W but they lie to us. They will say they won’t put crazy P2w features on release but 6-8 months later they will put the P2W features when their player count stables.

[@LuckyGhost]

Ya was sad when they let botting become the norm, and then p2w after that. L2 was amazing in its prime, before all of that

[@SHMITGAMINGINC]

Archage was a phenomenal title ruined by ptw. That game would be absolutely massive had it of not been ptw. Would rather a sub based wow setup over the way they do it 100% Archage 2 is doomed already due to greed

[@dutyfreeadventures5924]

Yeah but at least you get the dragon armor amiright?

[@Mxlch999]

I mean i played Aion for about 5 years and i never spent a single $ ...?

[@kebabelukka-ov4jq]

5:42 "Fapcastle" really got me 😂

[@xjx9011]

that was hilarious.

[@queen.cigarette]

I mean, it was too much of a mouthful, so...

[@low-keyjoeb3985]

That's a totally different type of company

[@benjaminb4407]

Fun fact: a huge portion of the New World dev team is from ESO with sprinklings of Everquest, DAoC, and WoW ex-devs too.

[@antonin2478]

really a fun fact. i didn't know that

[@Barefeet200]

EverQuest and DAoC, ah, those were the days.

[@LeavEyeDDrum]

You would think the lore would be better with all those devs. And I Iove playing New World

[@queen.cigarette]

In case anyone is wondering, the footage shown during the Blizzard Odyssey section is from the game DEADSIDE, which people have described as "H1Z1 with hostile militants instead of zombies". It features duck hunting.

[@sarazagua470]

its Palia lol

[@j.d.v2.09]

No, that's Palia...

[@queen.cigarette]

@@j.d.v2.09 It's Deadside for the first half of the clip, and then Palia the second half.

[@YahniTV]

Yea this segment really confused me.

[@jefft5189]

SSG's Lord of the rings online came out in 2007 is an amazing game and still gets constant updates and expansions. and its a total open world. its dated but still great. and the lore is very well handled.

[@christopherroberts7559]

This is still my all-time favorite with over 7k hours. I do wish we would get an U5 update lol. But i also know that will never happen

[@DaMcGamer]

Thanks for the overview. Lots of interesting MMO's coming out. Just a heads up - the Odyssey review featured mostly Palia (I think that's what it was), not scenes from Odyssey.

[@LuckyGhost]

Yeah there is no odyssey footage available yet

[@rocky6893]

Thanks I was wondering what game that was

[@kalladin7087]

That's gameplay from Deadside, wish it did better it was a fun game.

[@ryvyr]

In EQ, in The Bazaar on Luclin, indeed players needed to remain logged in in order to sell from designated vendor bags, though a search UI guided players to the players selling the item. It was a simpler, more efforted time.

[@corvusblack7362]

I remember the commons tunnel before Luclin for selling and having to stay logged in for it. Ahhh, good times. 😊 I miss old EQ ad early EQ2.

[@StoryofCroy]

​@@corvusblack7362 Bring it back. There was an actual community back then.

[@Astragoth2]

@@corvusblack7362 I remember the griffon

[@thecasuallongsword]

West Commons@@corvusblack7362

[@traceycrawford3718]

god I remember those dayz

[@jamesclark9494]

I'm personally looking forward to the Riot MMO but there are several that I'll probably try. Great video and keep up the good work!

[@LuckyGhost]

Awesome to hear and thanks so much for the comment ! That riot mmo sounds exciting for sure!

[@taylorcliff6609]

same. i quit wow back in 09 to play league and have been excited since riot announced the prospected mmo. Sadly, now in 2023, the lack of info is getting rather frustrating.

[@LuckyGhost]

@@diabolusvincit they said they are going for mass appeal, so not isometric

[@dksarelifeblood1133]

sad it jus got pushed back a millennia

[@jimbopeebles8210]

“We just need a modern seamless open world with straightforward monetization and all loot in game” Yes. As a fellow (very) longtime MMO degenerate, yes.

[@thecognitiverambler8911]

I think Pax Dei deserves a mention.

[@kazwright1233]

I miss Asheron's Call seamless world with instanced dungeons.

[@ELEFE10110]

We all thought that this year was going to be a great year for the genre, and in the end look how it ended, without a single decent mmo of the few that came out. We'll see how 2024 goes

[@Betruet]

Great video, thanks for the updates!

[@ElementalRose.]

@LuckyGhost Ur video is rly great! I'm soooooooo looking forward to so many of these 😊 Buuuuut I noticed u showed in your vid 1 of my fav games Palia under the Blizzard Oddessey timestamp from here 18:44 but you don't mention it anywhere so thought I might point it out as I see you give credits to all other stuff and don't want you getting in trouble ❤

[@zenafied]

Most looking forward to the Riot-adjacent ones and the Zos one!

[@SIG442]

There are heavy rumors regarding a new SWTOR or something of the kind that should replace both SWTOR as SW Galaxies alike. Now whether this happens to be true or not, we will have to wait and see. If it does happen I really do hope they won't mess it up and actually make a huge impact as a great star wars game in mmo style is really needed. However I do hope there is a offline variant as well in case you wish to do that instead and add mods. I do think that would be a major win if they did that. Also Zenimax was mentioned quite often regarding a new SW mmo indeed, but for now we should take that with a grain of sand for now.

[@HaleftHaut]

Bro I cant wait for a new Star Wars MMO, kinda tired of medieval and asian stuff

[@Santoroz]

My dream mmo is Star Wars Galaxies remade with UE5.

[@MrKnightlore]

Man that would be awesome, was my first MMO

[@Spicelydone]

I agree but Ashes of Creation might have to do for now hehe

[@lexeo007]

couldn't agree more SWG still is one of the best mmos made in my option had a lot of fond memories with it..

[@jamesmcphee3593]

SWG was great but my favorite was DAOC the pvp was great

[@biasucci]

What is the tune in the background starting at the Ghost section (5:30). I've heard it many times but I'm completely drawing a blank where it's from.🤣

[@righteous7788]

Honestly AoC is the one that really gets my attention and now the ZOS game? Oh boy that one could be a banger

[@TheCooderix]

AoC game is literally ran by a scammer and the game sells more cosmetics than any game I have witnessed despite not being released, so your expectations must not be very high.

[@brad31781]

Ever heard of Star Citizen? Fairly certain it has sold ship designs in excess of $10,000 each.

[@Spicelydone]

Alot of us want a way to support a game of our dreams and have something to show for it, even if the cosmetics are just things that npcs will have in the world. Crafted gear is supposed to be cooler but at least we get something unique to show that we were founders. I might have still donated money otherwise but was stoked to at least get something to show for it, along with access to alpha 2, which starts Q3 of this year. Ive also never seen a game studio be so transparent with their development and would be insane for them to be hosting a 2 hour livestream every month with tons of progress. They would never be able to show their face again or make anything ever. Obviously anything can happen in life, but I'd prob kill myself if that sweet woman Margaret Krohn who hosts the livestreams with Steven was a scammer. Shes married and I follow her on instagram and seems super family oriented and would just be nuts. I get super passionate, humble vibes from her and would be flabbergasted if she was just faking it@@TheCooderix They got some big hires this year too including lead writer of ESO Wynne Mclaughlin as Senior Narrative Designer and Bill Trost, co-creator of EverQuest 1 and 2 and just left Amazon after working on New World for 6 yrs, as lead game designer. Doubt they would join a scam Also, 100k+ people have signed up for alpha 2 so be ready for tons of ppl to be talking about state of game, including me :) If they f us, I will rage like never before and make sure they get turned into dust along with everyone else don't worry

[@rodzwart6360]

@@TheCooderix Nothing you have said is true.

[@vhaste]

Pax dei is a new contender for best MMO, might not be out for 2024 but they already start with alphas

[@Justme-ip3wc]

Pax Dei won't be in the same category as most MMOs like WoW or New World though so it's hard to compare.

[@Spicelydone]

yeah seems more open world survivalish@@Justme-ip3wc

[@d.j.savick]

I'm confused, @18:43 you are still talking about Odyssey but showing Palia. Is Palia coming out soon? Is it supposed to be on this list.

[@Makoholic11]

Yea im surprised like noone else said anything.

[@jbeavan010205]

Awesome as always, Lucky! Thank you and happy new year!

[@LuckyGhost]

Same to you!

[@GenXautrucity]

I just want a new Asherons Call.

[@JamieHitt]

Wow. Odyssey looks a whole lot like Palia. I mean, just like it. lol.

[@MarcoPo7o]

Must be a mistake he made. Halfway Odyssey he switched to Palia LOL

[@Despond]

Blizzard have no innovation left. At one time developers copied Blizzard, now Blizzard are just doing their own versions of other games.

[@TKKelley]

The first segment of Odyssey looks like a remade version of Deadside. I hope that they are not going to try that.

[@rsurish377]

@@TKKelley I was looking for someone talking about this, it looks so identical to deadside that I'm fairly sure those clips are from deadside >.

[@TKKelley]

@@rsurish377 I agree that it is pretty darn close. It would be horrible to see someone copying the game like that and selling it under another name.

[@adambrummett487]

Zos, made by Bethesda I am a big fan of eso so I am looking forward to that one

[@nordy259]

Waiting for the day a game is able to figure out how to have strategic group orientated action combat. Tab targeting feels outdated but every action combat game we've ever had makes other players feel like NPC's. If anyone can ever combine the best of both it'll truly be the next generation MMO

[@LuckyGhost]

True, would love to see action combat with the depth of tab target

[@heartlin5875]

i would recommend Gw2 it has both tab targeting and action combat

[@na2cho]

Darkfall online was the goat, but the shit devs that inherited the game from the people who actually made it ruined it. It had a couple of re-releases and one of those is looking at a steam release, but it’s not the same anymore.

[@Poemiserable]

Fundamentally not possible, that's why the future will see the return of tab targeting.

[@Operation-InnerGravity]

Black desert online.

[@Zerodead_1]

OMG!! I'm most excited for whatever ZOS has coming!

[@Jannah_2k]

Why be excited about ZOS game tho? Honest question. You know how like in every other mmo when there is a big update/expansion.. people are hyped and happily waiting for new content? In ESO everyone (all my friends) was just always horrified of patch notes day, and for a good reason. Every quarterly update the Devs just made changes/nerfs to the game that are mostly beyond logic and always less fun after update, not more like in other games. It's almost a miracle how it's possible. But a reality in ESO. And i played it for 5 years. So i had enough time to learn the pattern of despair lol When did quit ESO, think i actually had enough of the whole company and cannot trust them in other products also. Most my friends who did quit say the same. Takes a lot for a company to get to that point for all of us. And yes, we were PVP Cyrodiil players. Enough was enough of broken promises and even trials and pve land started to feel often laggy/unresponsive like Cyrodiil. People made builds that "try this in lag for more damage". Not normal to have to do, when other games (that i play now) work perfectly normally. Meanwhile ESO server is like on moon with that high latency (100-450ms from europe to EU server, like what?) and skill delays. If same team makes any game, i have ZERO trust that it would be of good quality. Or that it would stay that way. Even if they would make best game ever, i'd give it couple quarterly updates for them to break it with useless changes, bugs and technical performance issues. Sad to feel that way, but it is what it is.

[@kwoowoo828]

@@Jannah_2k So what MMO are you playing now since you quit ESO. Pray tell pls. I am just gonna buy ESO to play but you have me thinking twice about it now. What MMO are you playing and I will want to review it to decide whether ESO is worth my time and money. Thanks.

[@Jannah_2k]

@@kwoowoo828 I currently play FF14, it has awesome instanced raiding content (Ultimates, Savage tiers) and Guild Wars 2, it has the most fun open world game play of any MMO i have tried (the pve event based playing) and WvW (open world pvp mode with castle sieges, that actually work and has good performance unlike ESO. What both has in common? They both work REALLY well, with stable 30-40ms ping 24/7 in any situation. They replaced ESO for me, could not ever go back, i even still (after a year of playing them) wonder occasionally how WEIRD it is that the games WORK so well, i was somehow normalized the lag and problems of ESO so strongly in my head, that when started to play other games having no lag felt like a miracle that should not even be almost possible. Same pc, same connection, games work like as they should. And GW2 for example has WAY better looking mount/gear/weapon skins with fancy particle effects, so works better yet still has better eye candy also, my characters look damn awesome. The game looks nice in in 2k for over 10 year old. ^^ Love it. And in FF14 i can be the cat girl i am meant to be lmao. Yes, i wear cat ears irl while playing, for memes and cuteness. 😹 My advice to you if you play ESO, do NOT invest much extra money on it, or might have feelings of regret after the initial and hits endgame and notices the problems (technical performance, lag, bugs, Devs hating their own players feeling) so you don't get that sunk cost fallacy hitting feeling. Because both pve trial scene and pvp scene is DEAD in that game, so small that everyone knows each others by name. So you know it's not healthy situation. Play it like single player game is my advice and be ready for performance issues wrecking nerves if go try pvp in primetime. That is all.

[@breckharrison]

I have a bad feeling that all of these will disappointment us with the trend in gaming these days

[@sincity197600]

Eight videos SO LARGE that they span over 15 games! Great summary. I am most excited about the new ZOS game. They figured out a meaningful loop and the biggest limitation to ESO at this point is its engine.

[@LuckyGhost]

Under promise and over deliver as they say. Ya I look forward to seeing what their second attempt at an mmo looks like

[@mabo988]

I love you videos Man keep making them but it's a little frustrating to hear about games that might come out 5 years from now not really interested in those due to how many things can change before 5 years is up

[@xmatthyx1]

And proceeds to NOT mention 2024 games that look AMAZING

[@PrinceSweetBun]

I'm really looking forward to a lot of these. I really don't mind tab target gameplay, but one thing that I truly miss is actually good True Action combat. Despite all of it's shortcomings, TERA honestly is the only game that I have ever felt actually NAILED that combat style. It felt smooth, unclunky, and flowed well. Really hope that in the coming years we could see a game actually capture that fluidity without overdoing it, and matching the combat that TERA had. :(

[@ZachSharpe1]

I agree with this, if you're going to make an MMO around action combat, do it really well. I'm looking forward to AGS reworking New World's combat completely

[@vulcanviduus252]

I miss Tera for this as well. Still looking for a replacement

[@amerika420099]

Tera was amazing. The BEST action MMORPG there was. pure greatness

[@s1lence487]

@@vulcanviduus252 I still doing it aswell. Didn't found a replacement yet.

[@belgianht]

You don't need a whole list cause it's pretty simple: either nothing special will happen in the genre within the next 5 years, or Ashes of Creation is going to set the new standard if they can deliver what they've promised all these years in development. All the eggs are pretty much in one basket cause the rest doesn't even come close to changing the genre.

[@noack7381]

Since I spent 15 years playing Lineage II, from beta until it became ptw, and still thinking it was the best game ive ever played, Im definetly looking forward to Throne & Liberty. If they can bring back the feel from the first 5 Chronicles of Lineage II, with full pvp and sieges, along with sub to play, no bop, no auction-house, no instances ... Im hooked!💘 Even hearing the music again while you talk about project LLL, bring back so many memories.🤗 Very nice lineup, Im sure we are looking forward to some great games, over the next few years. Thx for taking us along.😉

[@Qugie]

I was a big Fan from L2 also and 2 tell you the truth even thou I still play to this day, the best time for me in L2 was Beta right up 2 the last day of Beta, it went down hill from that point but still is fun 2 keep me around this long but I miss the days of Beta up to C2

[@sam.walker_dc]

Umm, why was there content from Palia playing when you talked about Blizzards Odyssey? That might confuse people.

[@KniteDad]

My dream MMO is a seamless world, that lets you guild up, but solo also. If your character can morph in a way that no other can, a way to overpower against the world. I think City of Hero's is a good example of this.

[@spiritwyrmk8622]

I'd like to see your take on the LOTR MMO and New world's future. I'm honestly scared that New world simply made a paid expansion just to gather revenue for LOTR. They won't say it of course... but it feels like they'll just use New world as LOTR's beta. They'll eventually focus more on the baby while the older child gets neglected

[@bilaliqbal4012]

i mean.. it would make sense to use new world as testing space for their LOTR MMO because let's be honest here.. Tolkien's IP is one of the biggest if not.. The biggest. There's a lot of tolkien fans out here including me. I really REALLY hope they don't fumble it because it could easily break the studio.

[@corvusblack7362]

Is this a reboot of the old LoTRO game that has been around for a long time? Played the old one alongside EQ2.

[@bilaliqbal4012]

@@corvusblack7362 no it's not a reboot. it'll likely be within the same time-frame as LOTRO but it'll be it's own game with different gameplay, mechanics etc.

[@kwoowoo828]

@@bilaliqbal4012 Both MMO has the same designers. How different can you expect both games to differ? I suspect their LOTR 2 will be instead another piece of New World 2 shit. I would say the same thing for Archeage 2. People don't change their mindset so easily, so the games that they design will bear huge resemblances as it reflect their personalities.

[@AiRoSLoTH]

7:22 LOL I saw the Blizzard entertainment logo and insta clicked to the next game!

[@melloojello]

Blizz Cancelled it Anyway.

[@teratokomi8731]

I greatly enjoyed the self merchant trading system in lineage 2.

[@ELWicker]

As a massive fan of the Horizon games I can definitely say I'm looking forward to a Horizon MMO. The cultures within the world are so diverse and interesting that I'm looking forward to immersing myself in whatever they create. Not hugely interested in anything else in the list but I'll definitely check them all out. Throne and Liberty looks beautiful but what monetisation method they'll adobt worries me. Great video again, Lucky. Now everyone scream with me: STREAM STREAM STREAM

[@Night_Strike]

Did you ever play Black Desert Online? IMO that game has the best action combat in the world for MMO's.

[@ELWicker]

@@Night_Strike I have and I absolutely agree with you about the combat. It's absolutely fantastic. I'll be logging in to grab my free dream horse! Merry Christmas!

[@Agapanthah]

I wish ZOS listened to their player base. They seem to have a certain contempt for their players. They treat their players like cash cows. ugh.

[@wade196840]

We are cash cows to them Zenimax doesn't care they believe they made the perfect game.

[@ShadeMoon42]

They mess up ESO with that one Tamriel rubbish, it was a tradition leveling mmo before then. Now it's just a joke and the world holds no danger or sense of progression.

[@BraheemIII]

@@ShadeMoon42 lolwut??? Did you even play the game at launch, it was legit the worst mmo launch at history, the game was broken AF. One Tamriel literally saved the game from dying.

[@squallloky]

Been following Ashes since the initial announcement the game was on dev in 2016... can't wait

[@Tcgtrainer]

at this point i enjoy more watching MMORPG list that actually playing MMOS lol.

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

Yeah i kinda agree I like playing alotta video games but man mmos are just way too much

[@WretchedMina]

I hope the new LotR mmo continues to use the sound effect of actual bones breaking when you take fall damage. Great video as always! I'm excited for Soulframe.

[@Zorlac]

THe lord of the rings MMO by amazon has been canceled. Several reasons have been given but as of now it's not happening sadly.

[@LuckyGhost]

@@Zorlac this is false. It was canceled when a publisher in the east fell through. They started over and its now happening again

[@corvusblack7362]

I played the old LoTRO, the game was fun for its time, and I played it alongside EQ2. Is the one being shown a reboot?

[@WretchedMina]

There is a new one being made, but next to nothing is known about it so far.

[@BlakeAustin2011]

Embracer has laid off over 5% of its workforce after a deal supposedly with the Saudis fell through, costing over $2B US in lost revenue. This happened about a month after they acquired the LOTR partnership from Amazon. I’m curious if the games division has more licensing than the tv division. The show only had authority to use a couple of appendices, but none of the primary or secondary source material. If the game is set in the Rings of Power era and with those characters, it will flop worse than a professional soccer player.

[@bigmike9486]

Glad you addressed the tarisland issue. I didn't realize it was so egregious that there would be a crafting stamina system. Immediate uninstal and unfollow of the project

[@ciocki]

Archage had an amazing combat and class system, however the end game grind and making any kind of money or house asked you to make archage your 1st job... And I mean at least 8 hrs per day. If they'll do the same here, good luck...

[@oplawlz]

The game was so close to being perfect, I had a blast on launch . I'm always going to argue that the limited housing system did the most damage though, the botting and map hackers buying every property the instant it comes up just made me walk away.

[@mrpresreaganb]

I've been wanting a modern Lord of the Rings game for so long. New World is an extremely fun game in it's current state. I could definitely see LotR fitting into that game engine quite well. Runeterra will get time from me no matter what. I have an embarrassing many thousands of hours in League of Legends. A lot of the other games in this list (Ark 2, Horizon, Dune, Ashes of Creation, and new ZOS game specifically) sound really cool, but probably won't pull me in until we see their launches.

[@FearHype]

Ashes of Creation is by far the best project on this list. No P2W, indie devs, actual systems to encourage socialization, FULLY player driven world with dynamic weather and events, monthly significant updates... etc. AoC is the only MMO playable next year that genuinely gets me excited. I can't wait to play Alpha 2!

[@aznrobot9637]

Lol AOC is another scam mmorpg my man. They won't deliver

[@bolt6572]

ashes of creation is a SCAM

[@FearHype]

Classic doubter@@bolt6572

[@mattjackson9460]

Cant wait!!!!! I believe in the game too

[@gg05irgm]

I sure do hope the game is amazing but for me visuals of gear and progressing your character in coolness is just as important as power, because of this ashes is massively p2w. Literally a huge amount of ppl play to farm cool characters just as much as some play to farm best stats on the gear, and theres an extreme cost and amount of limited availability fomo overload in ashes.

[@mbj1974]

What game is shown during the ZOS MMO part? (Star Wars "Theme")

[@WickidOne]

that is one of the Cinematics from Star Wars: the Old Republic an MMO from Bioware, no clue why they used it for Zos since it wasn't made by the Same Studio

[@mm-yt8sf]

the thing i worry about is the last two mmo's i bought started blocking vpns so i couldn' (wouldn't) play them anymore. unfortunately they were both after many months of release/game play so it's not like i could buy the game, test it and get a refund after a couple minutes of failing to get on it. i'd hate to think they do this on purpose to get as many people in at the start...but both were by amazon so i'm pretty leery of amazon now. (one was a release to the western market but i think it was under their sponsorship)

[@bankaiiibankaaa4573]

Maybe I'm getting old, maybe Im already tired of all these cash grab, p2w, loot box games, but not even one of these games catches my eye or inspire any interest.

[@GORILLA_PIMP]

Yeah video games should be WAY more advanced at this point i agree

[@adamslosslessmusiccollection]

I’m still sticking to FFXIV. It has everything I want in an MMO. I’ve been subscribed since September 20, 2010 early access.

[@kylesmith564]

Agreed. I was excited to hear about Archeage II because I did kinda enjoy it until getting to the end game and the heinous p2w microtransactions, but wow they just stripped out a lot of the flavor of it, and focusing more on singleplayer stuff? idk it just looks really generic and sounds much more boring. I will miss my little fishing bungalow though, just kicking up and fishing.

[@adamslosslessmusiccollection]

@@kylesmith564 FFXIV has fishing as well, plus you can make your own fishing gear with crafting (FFXIV allows you to play all classes and job classes on one character), like the clothing, rod, accessories, and bait. You can also go under the water and spearfish (you have infinite underwater breathing due to in-game lore; all races can breathe underwater!). There are also different fishing environments besides just water; includes icy water, watery sand, lava, chemical waters, clouds, outer space, and different fish come out in different weather conditions. Fishing has its own actions for catching fish. You can mount fish, desynthesize them, or put them in aquariums inside your house. There is also deep sea fishing you can do in 3 parts of the game’s world on a boat, and you can level up your fishing class faster that way. Plus you can win prizes (non-fish) for deep sea fishing, including a shark mount.

[@monalisa-bs4zs]

good for you. I cant stand ff14 and it is not up the standards i look for.

[@kylesmith564]

@@adamslosslessmusiccollection I know, I’m 90 on fisher, that’s why I agreed to comment op. I just miss the ocean bungalow I had on AA. Was very satisfying coming home from a run across the ocean and posting up on my bungalow. Sad to hear unlimited went the way of the greedy, but with wow on the upturn and ff14 doing great, idk if anything on this list will dethrone those.

[@adamslosslessmusiccollection]

@@monalisa-bs4zs what is lacking for you in the game? Class specializations and horizontal progression?

[@liahfox5840]

The guy who left Riot to start his own MMO is probably going to be amazing.

[@lcpoplockin]

The Lotr's demo that was shown was from Return to Moria which is already out, and the Blizzard Odessey was footage from Palia....

[@wolololer]

If Archeage 2 is not going the world PVP route it just lost their main selling point at least for me, i loved the questing and "cmapign" also some PVE raids/dungeons and open world bosses. But world PVP, contesting world bosses adn contesting trading routes was the most fun part to me. I even liked the Labour system and how u would have to find creative ways to make money, even tho i was allways F2P

[@shawnbailey1585]

Agree i sucked at pvp cause PC buy console im the prince of terror

[@na2cho]

Yep. Lame af. If you focus on pve/crafting/anything but pvp, why play mmo? Better of playing sp or “local/private multiplayer” Doing the exact same thing 1000 times to get a new piece of gear to do the exact same thing 3 seconds quicker is the most boring gameplay in existence imo.

[@Nempo13]

@@na2cho I liked the pvp in Archeage, hated the class system/design. Artificial choices and the crafting suuuuucked which made the whole equipment side of the game horrible. As for why no focus on PvP for everything? Cost benefit analysis. When it takes you real world time for labor points in order to create trade packs from things requiring real world time to grow or gather in the wild then to move those trade packs over distances only for people to steal them? Yeah, it caused a mass exodus in the game. Also the game quickly lost a reason to play when their were so few quests or anything to actually explore. Where you had places to explore you had no reason to explore...no reward, nothing unique or special in those out of the way locales. I had fun being a corsair with a group and taking out the other side's trade ships. Sure. However I understand why so many people hated it and why the game died so fast. The first 3-6 months the game was PACKED. Once people did all the quests and realized they were just in a trade convoy loop, player count fell off FAST. PvP focused MMOs have no legs, they take forever to make just as PvE MMOs do, but their life cycle is so small unless you also have a robust PvE side.

[@lovemoviesful2]

Nah, that's not even a problem. They will still have pvp. The problem is the p2w and over monetizing, that's what kills Archage. If that is your problem, then you best just go play games like Call of Duty or Battlefield shooting games lol.

[@wolololer]

@@lovemoviesful2 wtf? call of duty is nothing like Archeage PVP, and as i said i liked the game besides the PVP, but Archeage PVP was one of the most unique things about the game, without it it is just another MMO

[@etherealceleste]

ArcheAge was amazing and the early p2w was very mild and really only balanced work/life/play. But as time went on, it moved much more into cash grab p2w and so everyone quit when normal people couldn't keep up with the whales. I still greatly miss the Alpha version of New World.

[@matthewperry2136]

what game was used in the background footage for the ZOS MMO?

[@ytubeanon]

SWTOR

[@j.d.v2.09]

Star Wars: The Old Republic. Which is still out and going strong btw.

[@kwoowoo828]

Strong? Depends on your definition. Definitely out-going I think because they are not developing any new contents for this game for years already. They just recycle more of the old 'content' like new stronghold, new stuffs that are a reskin of sort from old content.

[@SquirrelGamez]

The only ones I'm keeping a careful eye on are Ashes of Creation and Runeterra. Careful because I've been burned so often before.

[@meechow153]

People have been saying "One of these will likely surpass WoW." Yet here we are 20 years later and WoW is still killing it. I would love to see a game compete with WoW, however none of the games do PvP the way WoW does and it just feels much better than anything I have played.

[@purpledye1351]

WoW definitely isn't killing it. MMOs are just hard to make, require a lot of funding and are often done badly or rushed because the developers get greedy for money.

[@melloojello]

Final Fantasy 14 is the only closest one that compete with Wow as of right now.

[@missmeeper]

99% of these games will either never come out, be incredibly p2w or stay in EA forever. Zero reason to be excited about any of these games.

[@kwoowoo828]

I am excited about that 1%. Just don't know which game is that 1%? That is the excitement.

[@bingtop5073]

What are the games shown in the odyssey segment ?

[@Operation-InnerGravity]

Interesting perspective on these upcoming MMOs! While I'm skeptical that any of them could surpass the enduring popularity of WoW, especially given the repetitive nature of point-and-click combat in many MMORPGs, I'm curious to see how these games will evolve and potentially prove me wrong. Always exciting to see new developments in the MMO world!

[@TristanTradgedy]

It's compulsary that every year in December we get at least 58 videos showing MMO's that will dethrone WoW next year. The irony? FFXIV has already done this. In November this year FFXIV had 2.49 million players compared to WoW's 2.19 million. Also, in general more people who play FFXIV are happier with the state of the game then in WoW.

[@tydebinder4145]

@@TristanTradgedy New WoW expansion has been pretty great. A lot of the players were leaving its last (horrible) expansion while FFXIV was at its peak.

[@TristanTradgedy]

@@tydebinder4145 And yet, that doesn't change the fact that WoW is still behind on numbers. I'm not shitting on WoW, I have a lot more happy memories on WoW and I root for it to become great again but that said, if I decided to pick back up an MMO right now... it would be FFXIV. It's just far more consistent with it's quality... I mean, I say "more" consistent... WoW just lacks consistency in every area.

[@maxniemand975]

⁠@@TristanTradgedy serious question… what is the best website to see those numbers? Cause I just checked the numbers and I had lots of different numbers. In plenty of the Rankings WoW was still ahead. But what would really interest me is if those 2.19 million are from Retail WoW or from Retail + Classic. Cause I know a big chunk of WoW players are mainly or only active in the Classic Version now. As someone who has played WoW for pretty much since release but is currently taking a break it would just be interesting to see. Also sadly FF XIV is not for me so even if it overtook WoW in Numbers I am still waiting for a Replacement ^^

[@truffor1434]

@@TristanTradgedy Oh plz, WoW is a bland joke since day one. Played it 2 years, for friends and while out of any other viable options at a time. Story wise, I've never expected something coming well out of a peon doing rounds between a townhall and a mine, and that's all there was to it at first. Lore/story turned out to be the joke I expected, one trick meh plot story - then rezzing same bosses in order to kill them again - then spurn alternative realities to kill them again even more. WoW has a really nice commercial track record (no doubt about it) and future games will have hard time to beat that. But as of today... WoW is already "dead", no need for Blizzard to kill it himself, in fact they already did it those late years... The time they started to put spell/abilities on options, and all Ion Hazzikostas accomplishments in fact was just the shite topping upon a bland game, mostly loved by a big wave of young kids discovering video games at that time.

[@CyDoneTV]

SWG didn't really have a global auction house. It did, kinda, but barely anyone used it. Having your own vendors, especially if there's persistent non-instanced housing was very cool IMO.

[@Joyapp]

They had the bazaar. It was very much used.

[@Spicelydone]

Ashes of creation wont have anything global, gotta physically transport things to other nodes to sell them :)

[@bps3013]

Do Ghost and Runeterra take place in the same world? Might be the developer overlap but there are character similarities in both games per the clips you used?

[@LuckyGhost]

We have no footage of those games as of yet, so we don't actually know what either will look like. That was generic trailer footage from riot games which is what I'm guessing will be a large inspiration for both

[@bps3013]

I can dig it! @@LuckyGhost

[@worldgate989]

Aww bless your heart, thinking ARK 2 was coming out anytime soon let alone at all.

[@boanergese2466]

Ashes confirmed in their December developer stream that Alpha 2 should be released in 3rd quarter, so July-September 2024. I think a 2026 full release is feasible.

[@Spicelydone]

As much as I would love that, expect 2028-2030 more realistically. Gotta think A2 will go at least a year or longer until 2026 and maybe even A3 before Beta 1 and 2, which all take at least a year each I imagine. But finally a company to not rush a game. Releasing an mmo unfinished is certain death unlike other genres

[@johnkim9086]

Can't wait for throne and liberty. I played Linage 2 so hard even bought that sweet adena from china famers back when I was in middle school lmao. Had A tier gear then quit because S tier and "glowing" armors started to feel like WOW. I loved the + weapon system where you can gamble and make your weapon change colors so people knew you had a +16 crystal dagger with mortal blow. Good times.

[@thediddy8734]

This was my favourite game as well and it sounds like we quit around the same time. Managed to get my Majestic Light and Soul Bow but the S Grade is where I dropped out. Still my fave MMO of all time!

[@christinehede7578]

Seamless open world, third person,no micro transactions, no forced pvp and a small sub works for me.

[@_Bronzeplayer]

"melee attack the sub button" had me dying

[@guner247]

I am really craving a good MMORPG

[@0xNobody]

throne, ashes and runeterra have my attention for now

[@Nalters]

Bind on pickup rewards can still be bought with money - it just makes the process a little more complicated

[@kylebrett4125]

What was the video during ZOS MMO?

[@jefflutz5240]

why are we even talking about a game with an ETA of 2029?

[@ColumbianCocain]

You really made me laugh how you introduced the AD...hahahahaha

[@shepard7740]

Quinfall sounds good, love the games with many different game mechanics including building sail boats and naval gameplay. If only Blackdesert wasn't so grindy.

[@corvusblack7362]

If you wanna talk about grindy, EQ, DAoC, Neverwinter, and older MMO's were very grind heavy. Even the early release coffee WoW was kinda grindy, and this was before later content that allowed new players to cheat to the higher levels or got free gear gifts 😅

[@thesong7877]

The Trinity works and all, but I'd really like to play as supports that aren't healers sometimes. A lot of times.

[@Adam-oy4ix]

Been hearing the 'WOW-killer' tag for 15+ years being applied to so many different MMOs and still nothing comes close.....it'd be nice to see something really compete, but I am not going to hold my breath.

[@jdjin291]

Project LLL looks more like a retry attempt at making something like Anthem but more open witha feel of something more on the end of Secret World lore and monsters

[@joe-wi8nj]

Keep it coming !

[@zilsys]

DE has said that soulframe will have the same market. So don't worry. We are going to have fun!!!

[@MGC-XIII]

I'm gonna be in my mid 40's when that LotR game comes out.

[@supertrexandroidx]

Sadly - for me! - I couldn't care less about games that are going to be released in 2029 or later, since it's debatable whether or not I'll still be kicking by then ;)

[@Requiem4aDr3Am]

actually looking forward to Tarisland after they announced a delay to fix the p2w stuff. The best gear and sets now drops from raids only and they removed magic dust for the stone system from auction. Have to grind it out from dailies now. seems like a decent game that won't be as big a time sink as WOW

[@arntry8072]

Loadscreen within zones is the most realistic one regardless of what people want. Tho it would be better if you can do something while the game loads like open your inventory or something else.

[@NOBODIES_XIII]

Nice, Console getting some more MMOs 💪🏾

[@wade196840]

How big is NC Soft since they are putting out 3 MMOs in 2024?

[@juegrace3154]

i need a MMO like leauge, a game that you can always play even when u stop for 1 year and come back

[@wade196840]

Zenimax hasn't done anything to ESO in a couple years and now I know why. I'm not buying this when they half-arsed ESO and raised prices.

[@Jimmy_Lydakis]

I am surprised that you didn't mention Pax Dei and Chrono Odyssey ! Those 2 are on my target list ...

[@theshockcable]

@19:00 this is supposed to be marked a game called "Palia" which is an online mmo from EPIC , Singularity 6 corporation

[@RipCityStreetfighter503]

23:02 Project LLL is giving me Anthem vibes but actually finished. Hopefully it works out.

[@Teknopuls3]

The scenes for Lord of the Rings looks to be from Return to Moria.

[@carlosd.gutierrez9977]

Interesting video mate

[@MythicSapphire]

Currently playing New World, looking forward to these.🍾🍾

[@iankelley7574]

Where does one find a referral code for Ashes of Creation?

[@Switch72nd]

Throne and Liberty is gonna be hot ass. Ashes is never going to live up to the hype, its gonna be the Cyberpunk of MMOs. The Riot MMO is probably the one with the best shot to be big.

[@Despond]

Ashes has taken millions and millions from kickstarter too.

[@jakepietrzak7552]

One day an MMO will overtake WoW in the long term, but I wouldn't make any bets on it happening any time soon.

[@phoenix0401]

How could you leave Pantheon off the list???? (Kidding.)

[@lThellRockl]

aye okay. Leona going up against Pantheon is def what support dmg would do...