In 1974 I used my department issued Colt Detective Special, about the same size as a J frame, in a gunfight w/armed robbers and had to reload under fire. Whoever says the small .38 is inadequate for defense will get an argument from me b/c two suspects were put down and a third was arrested the next day @ a hospital seeking treatment for gunshot wounds.
@Nawojczyk4 жыл бұрын
Old Cop From an old retired coroner, it’s all about placement and practice. I agree with Old Cop.
@oldcop184 жыл бұрын
Steve Nawojczyk Thanks. I know this is a perishable skill so I get monthly range time in as often as possible.
@claytonbigsby69754 жыл бұрын
old cop i carried a 22 long rifle revolver back in the days and in a situation that little revolver saved my life, i responded to a bank robbery and i ran out of ammo so i used my 22 to neutralise 7 bandits i had to reload but that little revolver worked
@60viking4 жыл бұрын
Yes Sir. Real world experience matters.
@TheKittyClink4 жыл бұрын
@Scott Hardy insecure
@Chief2Moon4 жыл бұрын
I really don't think a guy can go wrong with either the S&W Airweight or LCR....just to be sure, I got one of each. ( & I love em both)
@theimmortal47185 жыл бұрын
I've had a 642 for years. It's the gun I carry the most, so I put the most rounds through it. Once you master a snub nosed revolver where you can shoot it as well a full sized gun, you feel like a Jedi master.
@TheMMSpirit5 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed. I get like ten or fifteen rounds at the range out of mine and I'm done with that gun for the day. That rascal really hurts the hand. Do you change the grips? I've still got stock on mine, been carrying it like ten years now.
@mig50cc5 жыл бұрын
TheMMSpirit When I first shot a brand new 642 a few years ago it was one of the least enjoyable guns I've shot and all I could think was how can anyone, regardless of experience, enjoy something like this except for the ease of carry? Ended up selling it. But now that I am much more practiced I am willing to pick one up again and be more patient with it this time around to see if it makes it into the carry rotation.
@TheMMSpirit5 жыл бұрын
@@mig50cc "Least enjoyable" Well stated. It sure is a beast, but IMHO nothing beats a 642 for front pants pocket carry. No semi can compare to the ability to get an instant grip and draw pocket carried. The thing is just too useful to make me stop carrying it.
@tom_olofsson4 жыл бұрын
Hey Immortal, good to see you are still out there. I rewatch your videos when I need a dose of reality.
@cs38614 жыл бұрын
I just got my first gun, nd it is a 642 ! only shot it one time ( 50 rds) right before corona shut the range down, did good at 15 feet.
@southfork675 жыл бұрын
Regarding the “false reset” on the LCR, here’s the fix. The LCR/LCRX use a transfer bar and do not have rebounding hammers. So when you have just fired a round and the trigger is fully compressed, the full weight of the hammer spring is pressing the transfer bar between the hammer face and the frame. When you release the trigger the trigger return spring has to drag the sandwiched transfer bar, and not very smoothly either, back down from between the hammer face and the frame. Once it pops free is when you feel the false reset. The transfer bar is a MIM part and is full of seams, high spots, etc. Stone it down flat and polish it. Problem solved. Polish the hammer face as well. The LCR is way oversprung on the trigger because of this. Polish it up and it will reset like a madman. You can totally disassemble the LCR/LCRX with a T10 Torx driver and a paper clip. Don’t believe the stories that they are hard to work on. They are quite simple and ingenious in design. They are the Glock of revolvers.
@Poop-nu1so5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@Schregger5 жыл бұрын
@@cyranodebergeracswiss2923 Pretty sure that the phrase "The Glock of revolvers" has just sealed the deal in what kind of .38 carry revolver I'm going to pay attention to.
@randallscott-key8025 жыл бұрын
Well, you could buy the 642 instead and not worry about it.
@mencken85 жыл бұрын
Good tips. I have and like the LCR (yeah, I like Glocks, too bad, boys), and this could help make it even better.
@Gunners_Mate_Guns5 жыл бұрын
@@randallscott-key802 I haven't shot a 642, but I can say that I was very surprised by how good the trigger was for the LCR-X, finding it much better than with a lot of full size quality revolvers.
@brandanb97355 жыл бұрын
With a snubbie and a few holsters on hand (belt, pocket, ankle) you've got all your bases covered. Sure the capacity is limited and the trigger stiff but one can carry a snub virtually anywhere on the body and in any weather condition and do so comfortably and with minimal effort. I understand the hangups about capacity but one can't beat versatility and reliability afforded by the often maligned snub nose.
@andyostertag5 жыл бұрын
..and you've ALWAYS got it..maybe with a quick strip or two. They are indeed noticably unnoticable in a pocket or upsidedown holster under your arm, or ankle holster
@TheMMSpirit5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's my winter gun. I can't reach a belt holster with a coat on, so I front pocket carry mine. You can't do that with a semi, or at least I can't get the instant grip and ability to draw a semi so fast.
@weedXD385 жыл бұрын
Carried a .38 Snubby as a back up for many year's!!! Very Reliable, no doubt, n thank the lord never had to use it, Awesome topic!!! Happy Holiday's!!!
@easucks17765 жыл бұрын
Why don't you anymore? Just curious
@mizzmaddieUTube5 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm a new shooter and I'm here to learn, not to speak. But I am a music librarian and historical sound archivist and I wish to point out that the music you chose to set the mood for 1950 comes from the late 20s or early 30s. Not sure anyone here cares, but it's not often I get to speak from expertise on a gun video! ;) And on that note, I want to thank you for all of your excellent print and video content. I've been doing a lot of study as I enter the world of shooting and I find your offerings to be among the most well-organized, informative, and objective resources I've found online. (And that's high praise coming from a research specialist in academia!) Your .38sp/.357 ballistics gel test study is particularly outstanding. Keep up the great work!!!
@Hillcapper15 жыл бұрын
Great post and I imagine that a gun carrying research analyst in academia puts you in a minority.
@abc-wv4in5 жыл бұрын
@@Hillcapper1 Minority maybe, but they exist! I know a few.
@magicman92185 жыл бұрын
He forgot to say they include the 1920's private eye accent that comes free with either
@apuzyr4 жыл бұрын
One final advantage of the S&W J-Frame is its resale value.
@Zoco1013 жыл бұрын
That makes an LCR a good secondhand buy if you can find one.
@sundown67155 жыл бұрын
I have the 38 SPL LCR and love it. Light to carry, easy to clean, shoots right on target, manageable recoil for its size. It's keeper.
@JoeMama-vj8es4 жыл бұрын
I wish the 327 was more ubiquitous, I've been looking for a good deal on one for a year.
@EvilSSP3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 340PD the other day and I was absolutely shocked by the weight. I'm 100% certain I had heavier cap guns as a kid.
@WitchyWagonReal5 жыл бұрын
Love me some LCR... the fact that this revolver is only a decade old, has 19 versions available, and has become entrenched as the direct competitor to the S&W J ...speaks to how good this design is, and how well it fits certain shooters. I come from owning a few S&W J guns, and have carried an LCR for about 4 years now. I like them both, but the trigger (particularly the staging) on the LCR is supreme.
@DanUtley5 жыл бұрын
Mort Business I sold my .357 LCR a few years ago and have regretted it ever since. It’s now just a matter of time before I get another .357 one. Ironically enough, I couldn’t believe how well I shot the LCR in .357. I was surprisingly accurate with it lol.
@WitchyWagonReal5 жыл бұрын
D. Utley - The next LCR I will buy is the .327 Fed Mag. I just can’t resist the idea of the same-sized, same-operation weapon with a wheel that holds SIX, and has ballistics that fall between 9x19 and .357 Mag. Plus, there is nothing wrong with supporting fresh ideas in handgun calibers. None of us can predict the future... 🤓
@WitchyWagonReal5 жыл бұрын
PS- Plus... it can fire 4-5 caliber variants of the .32 types! 😁
@paulwhite9595 жыл бұрын
I'm still holding out for a 3" 357 version. God I want one.
@CWB3425 жыл бұрын
Mort Business just picked one up and I can’t wait to fire it this weekend
@3leon3064 жыл бұрын
The best channel on KZbin ... i.e., measured, stylish, smart, sophisticated, balanced, detailed, accurate, humble, and always instructionally-oriented
@tamer17734 жыл бұрын
I bought a 340PD ten years ago after carrying a Model 36 for thirty five years. I didn't even notice the internal lock until I got it home. I never used the lock and never had a problem with it, but a few years ago I heard of people having it lock up on the range. It's not difficult to remove the lock and there are kits to plug the keyhole if you so desire. Since I was changing out the trigger spring for a lighter one I removed (and saved) the lock. I've had it to the range a number of times since and haven't had any issues. And I've fired a .357 through a 340PD once before I bought mine. And that one time is why I've never fired a .357 through mine. That one time was proof that experience is something you get five minutes after you needed it.
@matthewrobinson43235 жыл бұрын
In June 2014 I purchased a Smith and Wesson 442 (no lock) for summertime carry only, intending to switch back to my Smith and Wesson M & P Shield 9 mm that Autumn. The first couple of boxes the safest place to be was directly in front of me. But with practice, I eventually got pretty good with it. Almost five years later, I still haven't gone back to the Shield. Nothing wrong with the Shield. It's fine. But the J Frame is in my opinion, far better suited to the job.
@anonymoususer19524 жыл бұрын
Have the 642 and lcr 357.Sometimes when I cant decide, I just carry both.
@JayM19895 жыл бұрын
Couldn't pass up the SW 442 on impact for $300.... they might still be on sale... +P rated and NO internal lock. Great deal.
@Doc412955 жыл бұрын
I love my 642. It's not the most pleasant gun to shoot a lot at once, but that just makes me slow down and focus on hitting my shots instead of mag dumping. It's possibly my favorite gun I own but that changes day to day.
@D.L.W.5 жыл бұрын
I had a 642 for a long time. Finally sold it and bought a Glock 26 gen4. Being a lefty, the Glock serves me better.
@abc-wv4in5 жыл бұрын
@@D.L.W. I also have an M&P Shield 9mm that I love, but the 642 is smaller than the Shield (except thickness) or the G26 (I have one of those, too, but prefer the Shield and 9C).
@logankimmet34654 жыл бұрын
I’m happy with my Taurus 856. Cheap, solid, reliable, light, and easily concealed. And it holds 6 rounds. Ive probably put 1,500 rounds through it, with a good cleaning every other session. Never had a single malfunction. Even put a couple boxes of +p through it and it functions great.
@logankimmet34654 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention its a .38 and not exactly rated for +p but i wanted to see what it could handle.
@maxhernie80535 жыл бұрын
Glad to see revolvers making more of a public revival in the market!
@davidcarson78555 жыл бұрын
one bid advantage of revolvers is that you can train newbies quickly in emergencies
@arnoldcranium5 жыл бұрын
Revolvers are great..
@scowler925 жыл бұрын
Two words: CONTACT SHOTS. Revolvers don't need standoff plates.
@CitrusCountyBeatnik5 жыл бұрын
No safety, no need for a noisy cock (chuck, chuck!!), no magazine springs to go limp and cause jams, don't have to totally disassemble to clean - and no mystery bullet in the chamber! Put it in a drawer - 30 years later it still fires!
@ryans.35965 жыл бұрын
My carry gun typically alternates between a S&W 640 pro, and a Glock 43, depending on how I’m dressed, which one I’ve had more recent range time with, etc. But there’s one thing I will not do with the Glock (or any semi-auto), that I am comfortable doing with the J-frame...appendix carry. A DAO revolver is the only type of gun I trust thoroughly enough to be okay with loaded magnums aiming at my manhood.
@MrLeo76275 жыл бұрын
Man this Channel is way under rated, wow, a whole lot of Info. You should have 400k subs. Don't be afraid to have some fun to , humer is great for this upside down world . please disregard if this not what this channel is about. Thanks for all the work
@misterj13964 жыл бұрын
This is becoming my favorite gun channel.... after Hickok45 of course.
@killed_phill7964 ай бұрын
Hickok45 is a hick
@mikegoldstein81685 жыл бұрын
The larger grip of the LCR can be addressed with a Houge boot grip. It has the same gell pack in the rear, but smooth sides that won't cling to clothing. The boot grip makes the LCR very easy to pocket carry.
@hkvp9tactical4187 ай бұрын
I have owned several Ruger’s and S&W’s. I would like to attest, that a S&W is significantly easier to stage than the Ruger. The Ruger-as I am an instructor for mostly women, is always better in defense firing and the older the lady, the better the Ruger trigger shines. Men, will prefer the S&W.
@pliablemoose5 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison, and you’re right, there’s no clear winner
@mohammedcohen2 жыл бұрын
...my late wife won an S&W 442 in a club raffle...it's mine now...but I'd rather have her back than the Smif'...
@chrisbrake72195 жыл бұрын
Put S&W's "combat" grip on my 642 and it tamed about 95% of the recoil. Fantastic weapon.
@Xlac5 жыл бұрын
A while back I was in a quest to find the "perfect" back up / pocket carry revolver. I bought an LCR 38 special from my local gun store. I liked the lighter trigger pull of the LCR, however it has a draw back. It`s a long trigger pull with a light feeling trigger return spring. I short stroked the trigger all the time and that made the cylinder ending up half way from where it supposed to turn to. That in turn made it to skip a round. That was a no go for for me. Also the trigger guard is large with not enough undercut near the grip. I traded the LCR for a no internal lock S&W 642. Yes, the 642 trigger has a heavier pull, but it is shorter with a strong trigger return spring. I have yet to short stroke the trigger on my 642. The 642 has a higher trigger under cut for a higher grip. The LCR with the Bantam grip was a two finger grip, while the 642 with the Bantam grip is a 2 and a 3/4 finger grip. That is a big difference for recoil management. The 642 feels generally smaller than the LCR. The recoil feels lighter on the 642 due to its extra weight compared to the LCR. Just my 2 cents worth.
@CeltKnight5 жыл бұрын
A few years back, a dear (and now sadly late) friend of mine had just gotten a S&W 342 PD and we were at the dept range firing it. I fired 5-rounds of Std Pressure American eagle 158 gr RNL with one hand and 5-rounds of Federal 158 gr +P Nyclad SWCHP with the other. If he had offered me $20 to fire it again I'd have turned him down. LOL. Yes, it was THAT uncomfortable and my BUG at the time was a Kahr PM40 (tiny little .40 S&W)! That said, I'd love to have one. It was accurate and I believe I could carry it just about anywhere all day long without any discomfort (well ... except if I needed to shoot it in which case I doubt I'd notice and any little sting in the hand is a lot better than being dead, sooo ... yeah). I've shot a LOT of J-frame and similar revolvers over the decades and they can be tough to master; you really have to do your part. But once you do get good with them, they are great additions to one's self-defense armory.
@samwalker78212 жыл бұрын
I've always carried a 642 for the last 12 years. Maybe not a .45, but it's easily a constant companion everywhere because it's so convenient to carry. The action really slicks up with use. It can be fired from a pocket if need be in an emergency and it always works!
@tommartin25905 жыл бұрын
Hard to go wrong with the S&W (no lock) j-frames as there are plenty on the used market! They hold their value and I believe the steel or aluminum frames will continue to have a higher resale value! Resale may not be important to some, but I kind of trade a bit now and then!
@robertarobertat28305 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of .327 Federal and the 32 H&R for use in a compact revolver so I went with the LCR in that caliber. The .327 felt recoil seemed equivalent to me in an LCR to the 38 sp and the .32 H&R gives a recoil sensitive shooter a good option (and an extra round for what it's worth).
@HoosierRooster Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't trade my LCR for any short-barrel Smith
@ericking73915 жыл бұрын
Both are great. Having both a 637 and a lcrx, I carry the lcrx in my pocket daily. The lcrx seems a bit tamer recoil wise. Maybe the polymer frame absorbs some of that recoil plus the hogue tamer grip with the padding along the back strap. I also have a XS big dot sight which was a big plus for me. The back strap of the j frame feels like being slammed with a hammer in the palm after about 10 rounds. The Smith just looks a whole lot better in my opinion.
@DarkPhoenixTSi5 жыл бұрын
The burning question that is on everyone's mind. Will either take Glock mags?
@canabox71125 жыл бұрын
A cop here lost a magazine for his Glock 22. The media said it would only fit our police guns1
@andyostertag5 жыл бұрын
You can use a mag of caliber choice for reloads of the Charter Pitbull. Works pretty good
@jacobharris77115 жыл бұрын
what about LAZERS??? or Bay-0-NETS?
@paule19835 жыл бұрын
yes it will, also any caliber! Also, I allmost forgot, you can get Bump-grips.
@joejoelesh11974 жыл бұрын
I carry a 340PD.... Ya, I keep her loaded with 38 spc. I always bring some 357 mag to the range with me to let other people have a go.
@askunz14 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent review. Concise, clear, thorough, informative. You do most excellent reviews.
@Kyle-vb3fz4 жыл бұрын
I actually rented the LCR in 38 special from my local range back in the early summer. I enjoyed it so much, first revolver, that I started to look for a revolver to carry. They were out of LCR when I went it looking to purchase a revolver. I got the alternative snubby in 38 special and haven’t regretted it yet. It’s my every day carry now.
@bunsonhoneydew90992 жыл бұрын
The LCR in 38 Spl only is the best rendition for this gun. The J frames are old tech and the LCR is new tech.
@82lowe36id5 жыл бұрын
Have had my Ruger LCR 38+P since they came out and has been rock solid. Love the trigger and grip. Still not really a fun gun to shoot, but sure is a pleasure to carry. Only thing I did was put a front night sight on it. I do have an issue short stroking the LCR if I have not shot it in a while since I am used to semi autos with a much shorter reset.
@johnlong3842 жыл бұрын
I am glad to see a Ruger Guy since (have no idea why) I don't like S&W products at all and yes, I like my Ruger Security Six very much and yes, it's a keeper too.
@benjamindanielsen52045 жыл бұрын
I've dry fired an LCR my grandad carries and I can confirm that the "false reset" will screw with you if you aren't aware that it's a false reset. It's otherwise a very smooth trigger pull, but that one design flaw irks me to no end.
@BELCAN575 жыл бұрын
I have a S&W 442 in 38+p Extremely dependable and light.
@nikfish14 жыл бұрын
S&W just has much marketing bullshit. Aeroweight, pro series, special grips, limited model, pink frame, locking trigger and on and on. I like that Ruger has a much more concise lineup. They just give you what is the best revolver they can make, and that's it.
@HatsuneM1ku0114 сағат бұрын
Eh, s&w hold up better overtime and just and overall more solid design. Plus all the stuff they offer just means they appeal and seek to a bigger crowd of people. Did rent frame sizes, different grip sizes all for different peopel of different sizes. Etc. ps some of us women like pink girly things like the pink jframe grip. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it doesn’t appeal to others
@jacobharris77115 жыл бұрын
340PD loaded with Corbon 200 Grn Hard case lead. only pulled the trigger once. felt like catching a fast ball bare handed.
@John.VanSwearingen5 жыл бұрын
340 PD with 158 gr mags will make your fillings rattle.
@mdd19634 жыл бұрын
you could not pay me to shoot one with magnum loads......
@jonmeray7134 жыл бұрын
100% pointless to get one on 357. I dont even know why they are made.
@farstrider793 жыл бұрын
@@mdd1963 Really, you would not accept money to do it? I mean, it's not that bad.
@chuckvan15685 жыл бұрын
I really like your presentations. Very informative, and professional.
@NGMonocrom3 жыл бұрын
9:53 ~ Really?? A tie? You've got individuals out there who are perhaps new to carrying a concealed handgun for self-defense. Walking into a gun shop. Buying a used S&W J-frame with one of those "Safety" locks.... Let's hope and pray the gun won't seize up when they truly need it to work. The Ruger LCR doesn't have that problem. Never did. Little hard to call it a tie.
@CTNZ20002 жыл бұрын
I sold cars years ago and one of the points I would make is yes you can compare the specs but ultimately what car do you like being in and driving? Same for a pistol I would say, unless there is an imbalance in the specs, what pistol feels best in your hand and what one do you shoot best with / enjoy shooting.
@Paelorian5 жыл бұрын
There is a solution to the problem of muzzle flip in the lightweight revolvers, and it's firing from the bottom of the cylinder as seen in the Chiappa Rhino. The problem is that the lightest Rhino weighs about twice as much as the S&W 340 PD featured in this video. The Rhino has more manageable recoil than a conventional revolver of equal weight, so it's unfortunate that Chiappa has not introduced a lightweight model with weight competitive with the options in this video. Chiappa announced a Rhino with a polymer frame in .38 Special a few year ago, even showing it at industry events, but it never came to market.
@DEValentine4 жыл бұрын
The internal locking mechanism on J-frames that occasionally self-engages, rendering the gun useless, should be a non-starter for anyone needing a self-defense pistol. The main selling point of a pocket snubby is it'll always go bang when you pull the trigger. If a J-frame can't be relied upon 100% of the time, go with an LCR or a small semi-auto. Lucky for me I bought my 638 more than 20 years ago, before S&W came up with the genius internal lock. A fantastic concealed carry piece.
@chipsterb49464 жыл бұрын
S&W still makes 642 and M&P 340 without a Hillary hole. Need to search Gunbroker for months to find one though.
@alterego693511 ай бұрын
There is a company out there selling a fix for the internal lock called a "lock delete kit". It's a DIY proposition but I didn't find it all that hard. Looks factory when you are done.
@DEValentine11 ай бұрын
@@alterego6935 That is good to know! Although it shouldn't be necessary to "fix" a brand new firearm.
@zogger52815 жыл бұрын
Another nice and informative video. Thank you! I went with a 3" Model 60. I put a Wollf spring kit in it. The trigger is very nice after about 500 rnds.
@lisar30065 жыл бұрын
I am a J-frame man I carried one off duty for over 10 years and use one as my CCW until about two years ago. I owe six J-frames.
@KeenanModica5 жыл бұрын
I have the S&W 642 (J Frame) and the Ruger LCR and prefer the LCR on every level besides the weight.
@chrisbonnett67834 жыл бұрын
I went with Altamont extended wood grips on my 642. Nice in the hand. Fits in the pocket.
@Sewermonkey695 жыл бұрын
I love carrying my .38 lcr. It’s like, 13oz unloaded. I have a smaller grip on for concealing so that makes it shoot for shit. But for a back up or carrying when it’s hard to carry anything else, it’s better then nothing at all.
@stonerpage31005 жыл бұрын
Be careful with the Kimber K6S revolver, in case you're thinking about buying one. In rapid fire sessions it tends to skip rounds in the drum. The gun dealers know this too but never say anything. The only thing that Kimber did for me was put pressure on my Sciatic nerve when wearing it at four o'clock. ...lol...
@junkersintutus42825 жыл бұрын
@@stonerpage3100 Serious functional problems with a Kimber handgun?!!! I am shocked, shocked you hear me!!!
@notaturkey26075 жыл бұрын
I think 22 ounces is the Golden Number for a better performing gun. Anything lighter just isn't easy to shoot, and makes going to the range for practice, less likely. Ultra-light J-Frames are no fun too shoot. Hurts your hands after 20 rounds.
@andyostertag5 жыл бұрын
Agreed upon that number as it happens to be the number of my favorites that I can have fun with for 40 cylinders then it's time to reflect.. but for the other edge of your sword.. not a fan of the lightweights either because I like to play and practice, but some people (obviously) are willing to sacrifice some play time for the extra comfort. To each his own drummer. If it ever came down to it anyway, I'm sure as it is dark at night that you aren't going to be judging recoil during that moment or two when you call on your little buddy
@KevinSmithdc5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you. The lighter revolvers are easier to conceal carry. But they are no fun at the range. I have a Smith 642 that has Hogue grips (increases surface area), and a trigger job (easier trigger pull). I painted the front sight. And it is STILL one of the toughest guns in the collection. I ended up buying a Kimber K6s. 23 ounces, 6 shot, superb trigger (that you can stage to simulate single action shots), awesome three dot sights, and the fit and finish is to die for. Yes, it's expensive. But you get what you pay for.
@randallscott-key8025 жыл бұрын
Who uses a M642 to stand there wasting ammo at a range? I mean, exactly how many shots does anyone need to be half-way competent to handle a revolver which requires no "manual of arms"? For those who want to waste money shooting hundreds of holes in paper, buy a steel frame gun, then carry the alloy frame for real life which is the intent of the entire concept.
@Bob-eo3gf5 жыл бұрын
I have fired both and found that the Ruger fit my hand better and the recoil was more manageable.
@prisonmike60815 жыл бұрын
This gun fits my hand better than this one - some smart old guy
@57HEMIviken5 жыл бұрын
Love the lcr plus when shooting magnums i dont have an exposed metal backstrap punching into my hand but yet a nice soft rubber
@57HEMIviken5 жыл бұрын
@@papimaximus95 so 2 models out of 50? My point is they should all have it.
@57HEMIviken5 жыл бұрын
@@papimaximus95 ill stick with my lcr which comes with a grip i dont need to replace
@mantislake41415 жыл бұрын
After much debate, I went with a S&W 442. The LCR just didn't quite feel right in my hand and had a spongy trigger. Not to bag on Ruger because I absolutely love my GP100.
@TheFirstAmendment Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! the 13oz LCR is what I'm going to get. My Kimber Micro 9 is great, but I want something much lighter and in a different style
@supercomp655 жыл бұрын
Have the 327 lcr and love it. Nearly 400 ft lbs of energy, recoil similar to a hot 38 spl and the added benefit of an additional round of capacity. I certainly wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of it.
@northidahoguy55495 жыл бұрын
supercomp65 What do you use for carry ammunition in your .327 mag?
@timsweeney68325 жыл бұрын
I added a Green Crimson trace laser sight and also a high-vise optical sight to my Ruger LCR .22 magnum. I don't like having to give up the nice Ruger hand molded grips it came with but I have to say the Laser sight has totally exceeded my expectations and it's really fun to shoot at the gun range at close and extended distances with the laser. My laser was set at 30 feet I had to adjust it a it a little to sight it at 50 feet. But installation and adjustment is very easy and quick.
@msmeyersmd85 жыл бұрын
I have always thought that a enclosed hammer or shrouded hammer gave a huge advantage over an exposed hammer or semi-autos. They can fire all of the rounds at close range from a jacket pocket or even partially removed from the holster. Obvious only very short range and less than ideal but I suspect it could be useful at contact distance in a pinch. Please point out any disadvantages of this. I’ve seen a few videos over the years showing how this can be done successfully.
@abc-wv4in5 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@jimbrown98854 жыл бұрын
Per Clint Smith: "You're gonna need a shower. bc there's gonna be overspray. ok?"
@msmeyersmd84 жыл бұрын
LJ McC I’m an MD. I’ve treated lots of trauma patients and been covered with arterial overspray. And showered it off just fine. As a matter of fact, if it comes down to shooting from a jacket pocket? I hope I see arterial overspray. Because reloading will be a bitch.
@HatsuneM1ku0115 сағат бұрын
S&w 637, the lady smith and the lcr are my top pics
@1Floridaman4 жыл бұрын
Last year I purchased the LCR in .38, never liked the gun. I sold it and got a S&W 442 and put Crimson Trace laser grips on it and have now found my perfect EDC
@MrJstoney19905 жыл бұрын
Great revolvers I couldn't decide so I got both(Smith 442 no lock and lcr 357)
@fredslick6435 жыл бұрын
The Airweight 638 works for me. Lightweight, easy to conceal, reasonable power, with 5 ready to go.
@tomjeffserson1575 жыл бұрын
Been shooting autos forever and never any revolvers until recently when I rented an LCR. It felt good to me but next time I’ll rent a J frame and an LCR side by side and compare before I buy one.
@jimgaul67 Жыл бұрын
My 642 Airweight is snappy, especially with +P ammo. I don’t run a lot though it as I practice at 15 feet , which the FBI says is the distance most shooting incident occur. The trigger is stiff, but you’ll get used to it. This is my go to carry option and is also Hickok 45’s favorite carry gun.
@delmar29484 жыл бұрын
The S&W M&P Bodyguard .38 that I own has been a sweet shooter. That .38 round is a palm puncher for sure lol and the gun has been very reliable. Also I enjoy your channel and thanks for all the great content you guys put on it.....cheers!
@נוחיחזקאל2 жыл бұрын
Pity no Bodyguard in AISI 316.
@northidahoguy55495 жыл бұрын
I love my Ruger LCR .357 mag! It’s makes a great pocket carry gun. For a better sight, I’m running a Novak Mega Dot fiber optic front sight.
@riotson4 жыл бұрын
I got one too and love mine! If you want a laser sight addition check out on amazon: "LaserMax Centerfire Laser (Red) CF-LCR For Use With Ruger LCR"
@crooked875 жыл бұрын
i have the LCR .38spl and i love it! i carry it most of the time over the shield or my XD
@frankmartinez11594 жыл бұрын
crooked87 so do I
@bigghoss7625 жыл бұрын
I tried a 442. I was surprised that despite all of the grip options they all fell into the same two patterns and within those patterns there were no real differences in the shape so they didn't fill my hand very well. The LCR runs into the same issue but I found the factory finger grove grips fit my hand very well. So I chose that one for only that reason. There's no wrong answer here but I will say that because of the differences in the trigger and cylinder release it's best to just pick one or the other.
@grumpysquid5 жыл бұрын
bigghoss762 good insights here, thx
@CaptainLog5 жыл бұрын
I carry a 640 manufactured before the AWB, so no gun lock in the frame. A gun lock is an absolute deal breaker on a defensive carry pistol. Don't carry a gun that has the capability to NOT go bang when needed.
@shockwave64163 жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate key locks!
@iceberg19662 жыл бұрын
Seriously, who's going to fire these revolvers any distance? The sights are irrelevant these guns are 1 yard or less guns, close quarter weapons for sure. Thanks for the video comparison.
@youngestson65375 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Owner of the Smith and Wesson. 442. Love the little powerhouse.
@Chief2Moon5 жыл бұрын
Having a S&W 642 airweight & the Ruger LCR in .38spl, I trust both but slightly prefer the Ruger trigger....that's just me.
@DustyCowdog5 жыл бұрын
Well, I have a dog in this fight 'cause I own one of these dogs. I bought an LCR .357 in 2010. I only own two pistols -- the other is a tiny 9mm semi-auto. I have run close to a thousand rounds through my LCR with zero issues. I have shot mostly .38s through it, but maybe 200 .357 rounds. I love that little revolver and I won't be getting rid of it any time soon. The trigger is awesome, too. I would like to get a couple more revolvers in general. Not sure why, but I really like revolvers. I carry the LCR 90% of the time.
@cathompson585 жыл бұрын
DustyCowdog agree .. an amazingly good revolver and very accurate for me up to 15 yds .. comfortable to carry and I trust it (the most important part)
@albertforletta14984 жыл бұрын
Charles Thompson , double agree. Lcr 357mag with HDY 110 grain 38spl plus P. Very accurate. Easy, light recoil. Carry it all the time, everywhere.
@bigtrout2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the LCR and a S&W air weight at the same time. Ended up selling the S&W and I’ve carried the LCR for years. Biggest plus is the bigger more ergonomic and comfortable (for me) grip on the LCR and huge trigger guard. Just easier and more pleasant to shoot, though I’d call neither a range “fun” gun. Great for what it was designed for. Mine fits comfortably in the pocket of slacks with tucked shirt. Just forget it’s even there. The sights blow for my aging eyes but problem solved with white enamel paint on front sight.
@victorinclan3359 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I recently shot the SW 642 and it was not comfortable, I’ve wondered about the Ruger LCR with that grip it looks like it would take some of the recoil
@andrewdomenitzdmd5 жыл бұрын
Got a J frame stainless S&W 640-1 5 shot hammerless .357 magnum back in the 90s. Carried appendix in a Galco it disappears. If it reappears and you give them 5in the chest, the customer will probably have no more complaints.
@Chief2Moon4 жыл бұрын
andrew domenitz If it takes 5 shots in the chest from a .357 You just might be facing a Sasquatch or Grizzly bear. Haha
@momurderah4 жыл бұрын
The LCRs are way more forgiving shoot thanks to the Hogue Tamer grips. They have a soft mushy pad between the grip and the frame. I've shot both as well as a Taurus 85 and the LCR didn't leave me hurting after a box of +P ammo.
@edljnehan2811 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea you could carry 357 in a J frame. That sounds insane unless it's just a one-time personal carry and you don't plan on ever taking it to the range I don't think the frame would hold up. I wouldn't carry 357 in anything less than a k frame and preferably in L frame. I don't know about the Ruger I love rugers they're built like tanks I'll have to check that one out.
@USARMYvietnamVET19695 жыл бұрын
I've had a J frame Airweight 38 for years, put at lest a 1000 rounds through it, just a joy to shoot.
@soylentg62702 жыл бұрын
Regarding the LCRx, or small revolvers in general: I've carried one for about 4 years now. Typical response is "Well I carry a G______ because I have to have "X" amount of rounds and you're just crazy carrying a revolver for self defense." I will then say that's fair, can I see it? "Well uh, It's not on me because, x ,y z." You don't say?
@Captain-Electro5 жыл бұрын
I'm a 649 man myself. Love my j-frame
@Sirmustardpack4 жыл бұрын
My EDC is typically a G43 or G26, depending on the weather and my clothing, but my S&W 642 is generally what’s in my pocket when I’m at home and in my house pants.
@professorpewpuew5 жыл бұрын
That LCR has a great trigger but coming from shooting Smiths and semi-autos that audible "reset" on the LCR fooled me into thinking I had misfires when I just shortstroked the trigger.
@ripcanadams3 жыл бұрын
I have both now in deferent calibers, Angry Santa for the win!!! 🏆 👍🏻😆😂
@sweetluisp5 жыл бұрын
As always, great informative video. Love my no lock 442. Wish S&W brought back the 342pd. Those AirLites are just too brutal with 357. I think it’s time S&W releases all j frames with swappable sights, at the very least on the popular 642 & 442 models. And since it’s Christmas, how about rereleasing the 438.
@chassoto5 жыл бұрын
That ammo plug at the end was almost as smooth as your slicked back hair! Great video, as always!
@frankfranklin33652 жыл бұрын
My uncle had one of these old j frames he used to let me shoot it in the back yard unfortunately he went to prison because he flashed his weenie at the elementary school as the kids were going to the busses. He’d already been arrested like 3 times for the exact same thing at the exact same school, we’d beg him to stop but he’d just say he didn’t care what the law said or what them teachers say.
@rangersmith4652 Жыл бұрын
The first firearm I ever purchased was a 642 in .38 SPL. I have carried quite a bit and still own it. But my much more recently acquired LCR in .327 Federal gets a lot more holster time now. Both are great, and I don't feel undergunned with either.
@Scorpsfan5 жыл бұрын
The trigger on the LCR is the smoothest out of the box out of all the revolvers I own.
@lacydowningjr87085 жыл бұрын
I love my LCR 38spl so much I bought the 9mm one as well.
@dennischarles89763 жыл бұрын
@@lacydowningjr8708 Only carry 38 for self defense. I have experienced crimp jump several times with my 9mm.
@steveholman59784 жыл бұрын
I bought my S & W 340C Airlite .38spc/.357 mag when I was fortunate enough to receive my first concealed carry permit (the first issued in Nebraska) in 2007. I have shot both .38 specials and .357 magnums through it, though admittedly not very much for either. I chuckled when the video said most people don't shoot it more than once, and it is probably true. The same might also be said of the S&W 500 with the two or four inch barrel (which I also own). Both can wreak havoc on one's hand in a very short time. That being said, I love the concealability of the 340C as well as the light weight. You can literally carry it in a shirt or jacket pocket, an ankle holster, or other options and forget it is there. For self-defense, it has plenty of stopping power, and I would not be at all concerned about how my hand might feel afterward if it saved my life. How many times does the average Joe really expect to shoot a gun in self-defense? Most of us expect it will never happen, but we prepare for it anyway. When it comes to self-defense, it seems far more likely to be a situation where my target would be at point-blank range or perhaps a few feet away than at a distance where marksmanship would come into the equation. At that point, I'm probably not even aiming, but rather just pointing. My gun may not ever even leave my pocket (just the bullets from it). If my hand is a bit sore afterward, so be it. The main drawback is being limited to five rounds; however, at normal self-defense ranges, if five rounds isn't enough, then a grenade would be my only option, and that would take me out along with the attacker. I certainly don't discount the possibility of multiple attackers, and there, more bullets would be great; however, from the hundreds of videos I've seen in self-defense situations, the remaining attackers seldom hang around once the first one goes down.
@cameronbuckner2545 жыл бұрын
This was a great video, I love lucky gunner and I get all of my ammo from you guys now pretty much! I hate to ask a stupid question, but in this pocket pistol series you all are doing will you cover the .32 acp? I know it's pretty much not carried at all anymore, but I really love my 1903 colt pocket hammerless, and I find myself carrying it because of how sleek it is sometimes. I know it's not the best option ballistics wise, but sometimes I just want to carry something different than my Glock 19 or my S&W 686. Just asking! Keep up the great work!
@LuckyGunner5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'll be covering .32 ACP, .22 magnum, .380 ACP, and all the various flavors of .32 revolver calibers.
@cameronbuckner2545 жыл бұрын
@@LuckyGunner Awesome! Can't wait to see it! Thanks for the answer also, most probably wouldn't have bothered answering. You guys are awesome!
@grumpysquid5 жыл бұрын
Don’t feel bad, I love my Keltec P32 but have to keep it a secret from haters! Shhhhh--
@mattmarzula5 жыл бұрын
@@grumpysquid easily kept secret. Love 7.65x17mm. Soft shooters that no matter what people say about effectiveness I've yet to find anyone willing to take one between the shirt pockets.
@bowman3211235 жыл бұрын
Good question, I have a Colt hammerless , a great little shooter, carried it until I got my LCR.
@skyraider17763 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent review. Much appreciated. As a long time J Frame user, I'm glad that you mentioned the "false reset" issue as it took me a little by surprise in the beginning. Not a problem now. Also my LCR is chambered in .327 Federal Magnum which helps a bit with the recoil as opposed to full load .357 Magnums.
@skyraider1776 Жыл бұрын
@@Lucky_Gunner_Ammo42 Checking In. Thank you. Greg
@kayok075 жыл бұрын
Great review I love my 637 and carry it the most out of all my pistols. It took awhile to get confident with the reloads but after a few trips I can drop another 5 rounds in pretty fast.
@williamprince11145 жыл бұрын
I want a Ruger LCR in 9mm with a 3" barrel. I really like my S&W 60 and 36 with 3" barrels. The extra inch of barrel really improves the handling and pointing attributes of the J frame and it really does not make the revolver any harder to carry, conceal or draw.
@NebukedNezzer4 жыл бұрын
the 357 lcr weighs much more that a few oz more than the 38 if you are going to carry a heavy 357 mag. make it a sp101.