Ludwig Invitational - Riddles (Kazuya) Vs. Jakal (Wolf) SSBU Ultimate Tournament

[@santicruz4012]

6:10 Riddles expression after that W is priceless

[@N-cubed]

My man said 😐

[@C0rruptedSpY]

Certified 'Not Sugarcoated' moment

[@mrharvy100]

That ending was hilarious.

[@wolfdragox5563]

That final game was so crazy, Riddles made an epic comeback, it’s even funnier bc the commentators were already expecting a 3-2 stock game with how bad things were looking for Riddles and he was still able to win, goes to show how you must never underestimate Kazuya’s power

[@shanecarvin1035]

If more smash commentators did owl matches I wouldn't miss a game.

[@bregghaines1656]

Can someone explain what happened at 8:54? Why didn’t his rage drive work?

[@the-pigamandayoung]

because when kazuya is in the air he activates heavens door

[@trime1015]

14:45 NA Math moment

[@marcelotriscaro9430]

Triple spin kicks is an underrated move. Why Kazuya players isn't using that move more often?

[@blueheart9873]

It's slow and ultra punishable on shield

[@tinyt.w.i.m7291]

@@blueheart9873 right. Kazuya is either forcing you out of shield with ewgf or only hitting your shield once cause of no multi hits. Spin kicks shakes things up a little.

[@blueheart9873]

@@tinyt.w.i.m7291 True, it's something you just don't expect

[@Ki-gz8ve]

@@tinyt.w.i.m7291 thats exactly what the purpose of spin kicks is in tekken ! goes to show that they put a lot of thought into how they would adapt him into smash

[@Knucklebreaking]

He's got around 30 moves that range from decent to godlike. So it's kind of natural that people just gravitate towards the godlike ones.

[@ImlikeHIGHHH]

fighter pass 2 gave riddles the edge in this set lol

[@calebroehl8177]

So jealous of how damn consistent Riddles is with EWGF

[@luigimitsu]

It triggers me how often I see people say this because it's so easy, I am even willing to teach people lol Here's some tips I wrote - Instead of tapping the attack button try sliding your thumb off the edge, makes a massive difference in consistency Do the stick motion very quickly always (a fast little wiggle starting with forward input) Make sure not to end too high up when doing the motion, keeping it only at a very slight angle at the end, as it's easy to accidentally go a bit too high Press A in the middle of the wiggle, never at the end of it Do those and it will be 99 - 100% consistent.

[@alfredorivelinocoronadosan6472]

¿Alguien me puede decir porque todos están más alterados de lo normal? ¿Qué tan importante es este torneo?

[@KaxMerg]

mas dinero y prestigio

[@princemarth150]

what monitors are they using

[@azizkash286]

I really hope the pro scene tells sakurai to release one more patch that nerfs kazuya and others. Becasue kazuya fundementally breaks the game

[@chrispo7610]

I mean he ain't broken shit tbh, he's just a good ass char. Now steve? Steve can automatically cancel tumble with no lag, can meteor cancel in SMASH ULTIMATE, has multiple weird as hell block interactions, etc. That being said duck hunt has as many if not more bugs relating to can, and people don't complain about his bugs bc he's mid tier

[@azizkash286]

@@chrispo7610 how about nerfing both :)

[@KingBeef216]

How about gitting gud?

[@chrispo7610]

@@azizkash286 fair point 😄

[@biledox5576]

@@azizkash286 how about nerfing all the top 10 characters ? Steve, Aegis, Joker, Roy, Pika, PT, Fox, Wolf, Palu, ect. Now it's fair

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

Bruh smash commentators just be saying stuff. This new age "Wolf struggles to kill" is weird and flat out FALSE He doesnt have reliable kill setups. Wolf straight up kills using his neutral tools which is one of the highest privileges

[@duran9799]

What neutral tools does wolf kill with at reasonable percents?

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

@@lokks2130Dont forget his amazing UpTilt! That thing is nasty Side B as a whiff punish is also an effect kill option top Wolfs use. He has no shortage of kill options Smash commentators are just dumb AF

[@improvgamerl0l210]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@jdrmanmusiqkingneither of those are neutral tools

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

@@improvgamerl0l210 Everything is a neutral tool. Its not my fault most smash players like yourself are trash at setting up kills

[@BRWN_recluse]

This is such a bad matchup lmao riddles was playing so off but THAT comeback factor, meanwhile jakal is hitting every opportunity and still loses, gd. Nerf riddles lol

[@luigimitsu]

The ending LMAO

[@CipherKnighto]

0:37 i thought Kazuya vs Wolf was even

[@Reddietogo]

This character is so carried its insane. Jakal was far and away the better player most of that match.

[@HonorDojo]

The hardest character in the game to play and you say it's carried lol. Why do you think nobody plays the character consistently lol

[@D0ffgc]

@@HonorDojo not the hardest but is kinda hard

[@Knivess0]

​@@HonorDojoBecause no one wants to sink that low.

[@oliverkim6610]

Riddles is great but man I hate Kazuya

[@ThereIsNoSpoon678]

Lol Tea trying to get Kazuya banned lol

[@clay8682]

the commentators dont know much about kaz. Wolf is VERY good against Kaz, wolf kinda destroys him actually because wolf has intangibles and shifting that allows him to get out of all Kazuya combos for free. riddles didnt have “nerves”, wolf as a character literally can just hurtbox shift/ shield kaz’s combos for free most of the time, its just a rough matchup. both players played well but the commentary was flat out wrong

[@roberthamelin5637]

I don't understand how he'd be bad in the matchup too. Confused me

[@unknowguy7604]

But Tea did zero to death combos on ouch!’s wolf.

[@penny7551]

I thinks he does kinda well against Kaz, but I think its pretty even

[@ellislondon9071]

Wolf does not have intangibles at all, unless you're alluding to the 3 frames of invulnerability on his shine, which has a tiny hitbox, lots of endlag, and isn't viable as anything other than a combo extender in niche situations. He can't just hold shield considering how lackluster his OOS options are for a character of his caliber. (Not to mention Kazuya has command grabs) Wolf is great in this matchup at the early percents when he can use his mobility weave back and forth until kazuya gives him an opening to start a combo with fair or a grab, but taking the stock is a real challenge. Jakal had good f smashes to punish some of Riddle's predictable getups and landings but you can't rely on getting kills that easily, especially on a frame 20 move. F tilt's range makes it a good tool for keeping kazuya at bay, but one of the hits often fails to connect at higher percents and it's not a great KO option when stale, especially against a heavy opponent. Bair is not nearly as easy to hit as wolf's other aerials since it has nearly twice as many frames of startup, and you're not likely to get the auto cancel unless you do it from a full hop or buffered rising short hop, which is great for punishing most of the cast but not a character who usually approaches from the ground. (Not to mention, anything other than the tipper hitbox of wolf bair is unlikely to kill him, and would only stale the move so it's less likely to finish the job if you do land a good hit next time.) Up smash is pretty weak compared to wolf's other smash attacks but Jakal maybe could have gone for it more, like at the ledge where it can scoop up a roll. Meanwhile, Kazuya has invulnerable attacks and movement options, doesn't need to worry about spacing for sweetspots, and even without landing true 0 to deaths he has very reliable setups to kill off the ceiling (whereas Wolf's best kill moves are horizontal so he can't erase stocks as well without having his opponent in the corner.) The risk-reward is so skewed at high percents that wolf really struggles to clutch out the win in this matchup. Also, I forgot to mention this earlier but Wolf's dash attack shifts his hurtbox and can cross up shields which makes him great at pressuring opponents into forfeiting center stage most of the time, but against characters with auto turnaround being crossed up is far less of a threat so he can't demand as much respect on the ground.

[@fissilewhistle]

I don’t think anybody except Kazuya players knows anything about Kazuya.

[@dark4blaster678]

Riddles playing bad, jakal playing fkn good and riddles still winning, i love riddles, but nerf kazuya

[@shoppingcart420]

you think he's playing 'bad' but that's just bad compared to how he normally plays, not many kazuyas have better execution than he has even in this match.

[@mrharvy100]

Yes let’s pretend it didn’t come down to last hit and Jakal blew a couple stock lead in the end

[@Robwabo]

He was not playing bad. He didn’t get the traditional zero to deaths because they are harder to land on wolf. That’s why you see him going for the command grab after the nair instead of down tilt or ewgf because it’ll miss wolf.

[@Milr._jpg]

@@mrharvy100 let’s pretend kazuya didn’t rob Jakal with invincibility over and over

[@jaybasil1239]

Great match. Need less people on commentary. Stop putting more than 2 people - just gets muddied up and hard to listen to.

[@crouchingwalrus]

Kazuya is the cheesiest character in this game

[@SpoonGod]

try to play him rn

[@crouchingwalrus]

@@SpoonGod What will that achieve?

[@crouchingwalrus]

@@SpoonGod I'm lactose intolerant

[@ozcoz8084]

riddle me this

[@kennyg2610]

Kazuya’s command grab kill throw is soo overkill. What a stupid character

[@ubadman1]

which one are you even talking about he has 3 throw killthrows.

[@joseavila6250]

It's the dlc rule. In order to be a dlc character you have to break the principles of the game.

[@kennyg2610]

@@ubadman1 The one after rage drive with the spike

[@calebw8189]

It is literally a command grab that does the same amount of damage as waft, has almost the same knockback and can be used 3 times a game.

[@extonjonas6820]

@@calebw8189 Yeah, Kazuya has some stuff but that thing is the icing on the cake that makes him feel very unfair

[@user-ju6fs]

so bad matchup for wolf

[@Pj_901]

You can still play bad and win lmao

[@empresscarrie6230]

ignoring jakal had a 2 stock lead and absolutely blew it 🤡

[@shoppingcart420]

You really haven't seen bad kazuya until you try him yourself

[@HawkTeevs]

@@shoppingcart420 Yeah, a bad Kazuya player gets absolutely stomped on by anyone they play against He punishes bad players *hard*

[@c.conga11]

What a broken joke of a character. This is why I don't play Smash Ultimate.

[@OrganicDolphin]

Git gud scrub

[@HonorDojo]

Get good bro lol

[@BigMoneyJazz]

Skill issue

[@trainz5783]

Please get better 😂

[@lilithFGC]

Skill issue

[@Tendor_TV]

Riddles truly the better player. If you dont know the MU get wrecked. That easy

[@Aaron-do6uj]

kaz is just cheap