LUDWIG VAN B - Scéne 2

[@vasdgod]

A deaf whose music is heard even after 200 years none of the musicians today or tommorow cannot be compared to him

[@reamick]

Beethoven was born in 1770. Try 200.

[@lordbry470]

Haha funny

[@georgeisaak5321]

Indeed my friend !

[@selini52]

And the acting is horrible!

[@nemanjamicic8531]

What ever it was,or was not,Gary came out superb,ultimate.......

[@samr7927]

Gary Oldman's portrayal as Beethoven is masterful.

[@nathaliemenard7697]

Sans aucun doute la musique la plus sensuelle jamais écrite... le deuxième mouvement est un appel à l'abandon, aux caresses et à l'amour...il nexiste pas de mot pour exprimer mon Amour pour Beethoven et mon admiration pour Gary oldman deux génies réunis quel bonheur

[@piikkikruunu]

It's just amazing that the actor seems to be a real pianist.

[@Chemical_Droplets]

he fails his career at music so he become actor instead

[@cangjie12]

Yeah but a pianist with weird technique and posture

[@bobbyweirddick6556]

cangjie12 which was why he was perfect for the role

[@phillipbrown8346]

My favorite piece... Piano concerto 5...the EMPEROR CONCERTO..

[@l.plantagenet]

Isabella Rossellini is so beautiful still just like her mother was.

[@shahnozau8075]

He was too unique for his time, revolutionary, he composed a rock music of that time . Mozart said about him that he is a future. He left a huge impact on music development and probably his music is a root for modern rock

[@lingnguyen2623]

I am pleased that Beethoven had the opportunity to display his talent before adoring audiences both then and even now his music is felt.

[@jmeyer3rn]

Best ever composer in history of humankind.

[@CFDavid847]

Umanga Dahal no he means BEETHOVEN!!!!!

[@CFDavid847]

Umanga Dahal well I too am I composer and Beethoven’s creativity blows Mozart out of the water!!

[@Un-homme-avec-raison]

@Umanga Dahal Mozart it's overrated

[@kareraisu7327]

But what about Bach

[@jmeyer3rn]

meloniish Bach was an adding machine.

[@bernardkhalil3165]

Beethoven Never played this concerto himself. He was too deaf by that point.

[@ricardonascimento6020]

Czerny played this concerto.

[@rohambosphoramus6094]

mnemotechny...?

[@ricardonascimento6020]

Beethoven estava muito surdo para tocar está obra prima que escreveu. Então seu melhor aluno, Carl Czerny, tocou o concerto, na estréia, em 11 de fevereiro de 1812. Czerny é autor de vários livros de técnica pianistica, hoje obrigatórios na formação de qualquer pianista clássico ou que pretenda desenvolver sua técnica. Dessa forma, deixou também um legado inestimável para a humanidade.

[@GardenalRag]

@@ricardonascimento6020 calma ricardao

[@jhonbedoya4930]

Ricardo Nascimento Muy buena la información.

[@rotory2002]

And yet people will sit at a 2 hour Rap concert and cheer ! This mans mistakes far outweigh any of todays music !

[@Nilufer989]

Beethoven samiy,samiy,samiy Geniy vsech vremen Nepovtorimiy👏👏👏

[@johnculley5852]

Imagine, laughing at the Emperor piano concerto! The stupid audience cheated itself big time. The first violin player should have done his job and taken over directing the orchestra.

[@StonyRC]

I'm led to believe that Beethoven was something of a disruptive influence to the music of his age ... sort of like Punk Rock was in the 1970's. They just didn't understand him and his social class and temperament distanced him.

[@Herr.P]

Bunch of stupid trolls.

[@lordbry470]

What an idiot

[@MrCinghialotto]

@@StonyRC he was a heavy metal composer, his music, it's my opinion, is strictly comparable with the 70's/80's metal/ hard rock.

[@MrCinghialotto]

@Xavier Holland thanks! may be you would say Beethoven...mozart was comparable to the AC/DC or Motorhead music, it's my opinion ...

[@laurencelaurencedardonvill4347]

Sourd! Et pourtant tu nous a laissé tant d émotions ? Merci Beethoven mr beetoven

[@TheJohnscot]

This man was, and still is, a GENIUS!

[@danprat7331]

Ludwig or Gary ?

[@joeakin464]

BOTH!@@danprat7331

[@rexhowells7015]

Why make fun of a movie and the great master. Its not fun being deaf. I know from personal experience. He was a brilliant composer, who continued to write after he was totally deaf.

[@jordifuentes5521]

Qué magnífica qué maravillosa es esta película me encanta la he visto varias veces parece ser que es bastante real lo que indica la película lógicamente no puede ser totalmente verídica porque quizás no sería tan taquillera como ha sido pero francamente es muy hermosa y la interpretación es genial sobre todo de los protagonistas punto y final

[@edergaray296]

Donde puedo verla completa?.

[@diegoila5679]

Simplemente GENIAL !

[@evelinvivarcardenas5143]

PARA LOS QUE SE RIEN DEL TALENTO HUMANO..DE LOS GRANDES QUE MARCAN HISTORIA .. BETHOVEN ❤ TU MEMORIA ES BIEN RECORDADA A LOS QUE NOS GUSTA DE LA EXCELENTE MÚSICA 🎶🎼🎵🎹❤

[@REYMONDr]

Como se llama esta película?

[@GGCar-oc4gn]

@@REYMONDr no se we

[@gamesfrbgamesfrb915]

@@REYMONDr beethoven el inmortal

[@iblackgraphicz678]

@@REYMONDr Immortal Beloved

[@nicolagiuliani9701]

Fantastico grande meraviglioso Beethoven ....💫💫💫💫💫

[@kuschhase7372]

this is so fake, the camera wasn't even invented at this time

[@cyclinggirl3212]

😂😂😂

[@nikitakhrushchev2301]

I was there. There was no camera at all. This movie is so fake. Shame on the studio.

[@hercules2524]

@@nikitakhrushchev2301 😂😂😂

[@brittduran7892]

Jajajaja wtf jajajaj

[@CattoFence]

Bruh dafaq

[@DPrayer]

🙏❤️🎵Thank You!🙏🙏❤️🎵

[@NYCBG]

Just wondering, what a 1811 piano REALLY sounded like? The piano soundtrack in this and most every other modern film is certainly not the "Viennese" action which was the piano that Beethoven played on.

[@lingnguyen2623]

I know it's a movie but for that audience to laugh in a disrespectful way at one of the greatest musicians of all time, I would have immediately kicked them all out the door.

[@gilsonmozart1530]

What If Beethoven and Mozart had met each other when they were young and had worked together like Lennon and McCartney...

[@ethanpavelsky2571]

I'm pretty sure Mozart as an adult met Beethoven as a kid

[@SpaghettiToaster]

They supposedly met once. But Mozart died when Beethoven was still a teenager.

[@jus10_lee]

They more than likely met at least once, and its rumored beethoven took lessons from mozart for a short time. But after Beethoven returned to Bonn because of his mothers death, mozart died before Beethoven made it back to Vienna.

[@mayanleap3366]

They did (Constanze memories): for beeing a M's pupil, B auditioned, played an original in Vienna... he was accepted but his mother fell sick and he returned to Bonn (could'nt go back before M's death)... M composed "A musical joke" using some of B's innovations... kzbin.info/www/bejne/ravEgpyui6yih8k

[@alviilmie1869]

gilson mozart Beethoven had abusive ,violent dad,alcoholic,terrorising his mum and young Beethoven,while Mozart had a loving,amazing,super tolerant dad,who has become his best friend as well as a teacher,don’t think Mozart would ever be friends like Lennon-Mc Cartney with Beethoven,due to the drama in Beethoven’s life,plus when they finally were supposed to meet up,Beethoven’s mother died,and he took a trip to her funeral instead of meeting Mozart...

[@joaofelipe719]

O grande Ludwig van Beethoven! 😉

[@scissorsknivessp.5834]

Vc sabe o nome desse filme ?

[@joaofelipe719]

@@scissorsknivessp.5834 Sei não. Eu já vi há muito tempo nem sei quando ou onde, nem me lembrava mais.

[@zBijs]

God heard Ludwig's music and came one more time to earth to create Isabella Rossellini

[@georgeisaak5321]

Yes she is that magnificent indeed !

[@jupiterki]

No hay relación entre una cosa y otra , estaba enfermo solo eso y su talento jamás se apagó ni siquiera por eso!

[@candela9314]

Bei tempi in cui si vedevano e ascoltavano talenti eccezionali

[@jonasoberhuber2489]

its the piano concert no5 isnt it?

[@AliceSant195]

Qué actorazo que es Gary Oldman

[@barney6888]

I am very, very fond of Gary Oldman's performance of the "the man" in this film. He's either really, really lucky at guessing what B was like, or he knows his music and thus, knows "the man". I believe it's the latter.

[@Nigwhat]

Btw Beethoven is the most popular in his times until now his pieces are most popular than mozart and chopin this days

[@potato3018]

But Mozart has the best

[@rotyxh4568]

@@potato3018 sooooooooo true!!!!

[@robertomonina599]

@@potato3018 bach is the best

[@visualbrain5810]

Maybe if you exclude all the operas of Mozart....you know that Mozart composed some of the most popular operas still today , don't you ?

[@bobbyweirddick6556]

ELECTRIC E-SPORTS no Beethoven had the best in my opinion. The 3rd movement and 17th movement where one of his best. Moonlight he created when he couldn’t really hear much and he didn’t like it because it sounded awful for him when it was actually amazing. Not to mention his other pieces which didn’t involve the piano. He beat Mozart in piano work and matched him with the opera music. Beethoven>Mozart

[@THEGR8143VER]

Beethoven's hearing was impaired due to his syphilis infection. He lost his hearing gradually during his adulthood. By the time he composed his 9th symphony he was almost completely deaf.

[@CW-rx2js]

@Evan Hodge by feelinging frequency of vibration

[@xe2bio64]

It make me cry

[@georgeisaak5321]

Beethoven was a Rock Star before his time while been ahead of his time for that era !! By composing one of the most precious sonata's of all time the famous Moonlight sonata he wrote history , he remained immortal throughout the ages and he was deaf ...Yeah that pretty much sums it up ! All great geniuses were misunderstood at some point one way or another , it happened to Einstein too so i am not surprised . Isabella Rosellini more beautiful than ever in this role i must say !!!!

[@didzouille]

Beethoven par Victor Hugo Ce sourd entendait l’infini. Les hommes lui parlaient sans qu’il les entendît ; il y avait une muraille entre eux et lui ; cette muraille était à claire voie pour les mélodies de l’immensité. L’infirmité de Beethoven ressemble à une trahison ; elle l’avait pris à l’endroit même où il semble qu’elle pouvait tuer son génie, et, chose admirable, elle avait vaincue l’organe sans atteindre la faculté. Beethoven est une magnifique preuve de l’âme… Ah vous doutez de l’âme ? Et bien écoutez Beethoven ! Cette musique est le rayonnement d’un sourd

[@lili13]

Ooooh it’s in French je m’y attendais pas

[@StopMotionFilmsMusic]

Y a pesar de que todos se rieron, ninguno de ellos quedó en la historia como lo hizo Beethoven, por eso que importa que se rían de uno

[@legendarylightyagamiimmanu1821]

Stop Motion Films mm que dicho, acceptable.

[@GlennNugkuagCabrera]

Sabias palabras

[@danprat7331]

Jokes on them really he can't hear them

[@jesuspardo6262]

Beethoven, EL INMORTAL.

[@naturage]

Passage très émouvant du film "Ludwig van B. " .

[@patrickcoatarmanach7185]

Le son ne correspond pas à CE "piano forte" et le tempo à l'époque" Faire des films historiques demande de la précision surtout lorsqu'il s'agit de biographie) M Gibson sait faire

[@historyisthebest5831]

I don't think people at that time would laugh at him.

[@mariacornwallis1602]

I went to see Beethoven at his house but there was a note on his door saying " Gone Chopin, Bach at 1 o'clock, ....Offenbach sooner "

[@rorrimirror]

You just had to do it...

[@mariacornwallis1602]

@MackinawAnthony lol

[@charlesatty]

What a species, it can create this masterpiece & also the nuclear bomb to silence the species as Poe stated, “evermore “!

[@genaraestercabreragarrido1498]

Srta. Marie, cómo puedo ver la película completa por KZbin? Muchas gracias, Merci beaucoup!!!

[@szilike_10]

Inaccurate movie, it was Franz Liszt who started placing the piano to face sideways to the audiance, couple of years after Beethoven's death.

[@Gilbarwaters]

I love this movie, and Gary Oldman is actually my favorite actor, but I'd like to see a video of an expert reacting. One of those who've actually studied and researched a lot about Beethoven and with knowledge of Classical Music. I'm almost sure they would say: " No, that did not happen" or "It did not happen that way" " There's no way that could've happened" and then explain the reasons why. It happens all the time in movies about other famous people. They adapt the screenplay to make it more dramatic.

[@georgeisaak5321]

For one i think nobody would "laugh" at Beethoven no matter what . I didn't do any research , i didn't study classical music , all i can tell is this ...Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata is the most beautiful melancholic piece of art ever composed , it's the only piece that can calm me down if i am too much stressed out and it was made thanks to Beethoven , that genius guy with the heart of a kid ! To be that good in music you must be pure and he was pure !

[@kareraisu7327]

@@georgeisaak5321 To be fair he was kind of considered insane during his time

[@CW-rx2js]

@Evan Hodge not really..he was considered angry and sullen, not insane. N there was a reason for that too.

[@mjcs6399]

@Evan Hodge As is this comment. RME

[@charlessmith263]

I would have taken over the orchestra as conductor in his place. Never played that concerto, but I am a composer and pianist who already mastered the no. 3, op. 37 C minor concerto of Beethoven. And a good sight reader who had read partitions before even though I am more of a pianist.

[@timothycollinsguitar9450]

Yeah but you're a couple hundred years late. Lol.

[@josefschwemberger6392]

was für ein erlebnis,ich denke oft an karajan

[@blacktrp5237]

Cómo encuentro esa película completa???

[@Coliekokker]

That girl is stunning

[@fannybuster]

Isabella Rosellini ,see her in the movie "Blue Velvet"

[@username4441]

Sonata in 140p, allegro

[@kariosgaming7007]

A que hora se transforma en bestia xd ?

[@Tomas-gj4eg]

Celestial.

[@leandroyhwh4538]

2020 eterno

[@Antonioloturco]

....and at the end he turned into Dracula !

[@Erwin_Munchen]

This actor Beethoven it's loco

[@nemanjamicic8531]

Bat Gary Oldman was briliant🙏👍

[@nemanjamicic8531]

Gary is on artist,NOT traine6d dog,who on com5and:"cit down,lie down,yorself a breath,make yorself dead" ....

[@nemanjamicic8531]

@pianoboy I'm undersrtend compleatly you does happend in your head ☺pleease forgive on my sitaks erorr.I'm very late to job🙌👍

[@arnoldstollar5375]

Gary Old man great.

[@alviilmie1869]

Arnold Stollar yeah,the best actor,who plays piano himself

[@josueperez4974]

Como se llama la película? Pueden pasar link

[@misgoulon]

"Amada Inmortal".

[@sebazeta9194]

Como se llama la peli?

[@moniquehartmann3336]

Bp de diversité !merci!

[@archiestanton2767]

Why did the horns screw up? Did the copyist screw up? Surely, Ludwig would have never written those horn parts. Maybe it was done just for the film for emotional/story line effect. I don't know...I never saw the film.

[@mrtost-1560]

Pozdro Klasa VD sp41 Łódź 13:18 26.04.2021r.

[@PygmalionFaciebat]

There are gips-masks from living Beethoven available... I think its possible to give that into Deep-Fake-AI , and replace the face of Gary Oldman with the face of real Beethoven. It would give a real impression, how Beethoven looked like back then. Otherwise Oldman did a good job with gestures, movements, and the overall spirit of Beethoven, how it was described back in those days.

[@PygmalionFaciebat]

@Evan Hodge Its now years ago i wrote this posting. But as far i vagely remember there was a topic about: who could have been played Beethovens role better than Gary Oldman - or which actor looks more like Beethoven. It seems that i wanted to answer in that thread, but accidently i wrote a new posting /new thread. So yes - in that perspective my posting looks odd. But doesnt matters a lot.

[@opticalmixing23]

this never happened, Beethoven was highly praised by all in his time. They would never laugh at him

[@risho4576]

arttime timeart he didnt now what the sounds are like then so thats why they were laughing he wasnt hearing the instruments

[@jmitterii2]

@@risho4576 No, this never happened. He never had a failed concert where the crowd laughed at him. It was never written about in any critique... and if this had happened, oh shit, it would be in all sorts of papers and other peoples' memoirs... in short this never happened, Beethoven never gave a failed concert like this.

[@crazyman4985]

And like any of the scenes in Amadeus happened? This was strictly to show his frustrations of being deaf..

[@mishimihendrix]

This is so fake... Beethoven was deaf by the time he wrote this concerto and it is known he never played it himself. Apart from that, the sound of the piano is that of a much more evolved fortepiano (almost the modern grand) and not of the one he's clearly playing in the scene. The sound of the orchestra is way too majestic and full, like that of a full-scale symphonic orchestra, when in the scene it is clearly a chamber orchestra. The whole movie was clearly "trying to hard" and overly pretentious, told (directed) by somebody that does not know how the world of music really worked / works, but has a "tourist" idea of it. If you wanna see how a legit movie of this type is made, just watch Amadeus. That's how it is done.

[@gabrielkaz5250]

this is not a documentary it's a movie

[@rosadovelascojosuedavid1894]

T H I S IS A MOVIE

[@LoGStein]

Amadeus? That's also an extremely inaccurate movie. So what do you mean by that?

[@alessandrojelveh9901]

Amadeus is completely inaccurate as well. Don't be so arrogant, they're movies, not documentaries.

[@YoO161]

How can you call it fake. Clearly he is playing himself. Cant you see? He is litetally on screen the whole time. Cameras dont lie

[@davidvargas7686]

1:05

[@qwertyending6169]

Which is the name of the film?

[@rosadovelascojosuedavid1894]

Immortal beloved

[@giorgichkhatarashvili1171]

Copying Beethoven-is better

[@AnissWinneri]

giorgi chkhatarashvili really ?

[@giorgichkhatarashvili1171]

@@AnissWinneri definetly yes

[@AnissWinneri]

Well, i really enjoyed watching Immortal beloved, let’s see

[@lynce..]

How dare they disrespect the Prince of music..😒😒

[@scissorsknivessp.5834]

watts the name this is movie ?

[@kareraisu7327]

immortal beloved

[@patricm.3718]

Is that Gary Oldman?

[@fannybuster]

yes

[@lordbyron3603]

I can play this part of the Emperor’s Concerto. It’s the only part that I can play🤗 😂. It took hundreds of hours but I did it. Once I got the fingering down, it was fairly easy because it’s like doing scale work ... and one of the things I enjoy doing is scales.

[@ayaazaroil9040]

c'est quoi le titré de cette oeuvre ?

[@dinasucuarana4770]

❤️

[@jeanjeanduchateau9420]

Qui est le pianiste interprétant cette scène?

[@eulerleibniz1707]

Gary Olman. Au passage je suis quasiment sur qu'il 'est pas plus pianiste que vous.

[@nicolasaubertpiano]

@@eulerleibniz1707 je pense aussi mais je dois avouer que ses mains sont très bien positionnées pour ce début de l'empereur. Si il n'est pas pianiste, bravo à lui car il le laisserait croire à quiconque ! Mais bravo à lui de toute façon pour son excellente interprétation de Beethoven dans ce film.

[@schawn6088]

C'est ma prof de musique xD

[@legendarylightyagamiimmanu1821]

Schawn soi merci beacoup

[@psycopathiwish1405]

What Piece Is This?

[@marcoszamora2089]

Plague Doctor piano concerto No. 5 / Beethoven

[@agustindelahuerta6320]

the 5th concerto, "Emperor"

[@juanitoperez82]

Concierto para Piano y Orquesta en Mi Bemol de L.V. BEETHOVEN

[@dfnshyartest383]

🍷🎨

[@mendelschrader7631]

Esa escena nunca pasó en la vida real. Por lo menos no en el estreno de su quinto concierto.

[@adonaispin9787]

Si pasó. Fue la última actuación en público ensamblando con una orquesta. Desde ahí jamás tocó en grupo.

[@ayaazaroil9040]

c'est quoi les 3 titres d'œuvre musicales de cette film ?

[@mambostudiosandra]

ta eu le questionnaire de musique sur beethoven

[@back2me225]

😥

[@cangjie12]

Haha they used an English piano instead of a german piano!

[@raphaelarzadon8892]

Why is everyone laghing at beethoven?

[@leopoldmozart1630]

Because he wasn't able to properly conduct due to his hearing loss I suppose.

[@raphaelarzadon8892]

@@leopoldmozart1630 Thank you Mozarts father.

[@candela9314]

L’ignoranza umana senza gentilezza d’animo

[@teamfarel2828]

gg beethoven

[@davoudshojaei7834]

Where the fuck is the lead violin??

[@isaacgraham4867]

Oh the pedantic musical purists in the comment section!

[@candela9314]

Bravissimo attore

[@IMSColoradoSprings]

Big problem with this scene. The music you are hearing is from a modern grand piano. This looks more like a Broadwood Pianoforte. This is what Beethoven's real Broadwood sounded like: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWS2iKOpi66VatU

[@andreat.2809]

This never happened

[@JuneBrand23]

The (l. V. B. )

[@AhmadHidayat-px7pq]

I dont know they has colour back then I thought it was black and white. And this this video show how bad people laughing to handicap people 🤦‍♂️

[@ТоварищЖанаозенский]

Beethoven wasn't like that. Beethoven was a deaf invalid, haggard under the blows of fate.

[@mariacornwallis1602]

Beethoven is now DE-COMPOSING LOL

[@iphily20]

😂😂nice one

[@mariacornwallis1602]

@@iphily20 lol

[@luxaeterna5281]

(G)old

[@vasiliskardasis8642]

maria cornwallis Are you a poet?? And you didn’t know it? Stop belittling greatness with trite and cheap nonsense. Compete not with greatness !!!

[@mariacornwallis1602]

@@vasiliskardasis8642 Get a sense of humour you sad little man

[@rotundo6969]

Why don't they show Beethoven in the films with his true appearance? He was brown skinned.

[@kareraisu7327]

He wasn't necessarily brown, just had darker skin than most people

[@eulerleibniz1707]

Cette scène stupide me rappelle que l'orchestre peut ne pas avoir "besoin" du concours d'un dirigent !

[@1y167]

Euler Leibniz Encore faut-il que l’orchestre soit au point. Compte tenu de l’aspect novateur de ce cinquième concerto, est-il stupide d’imaginer pareille déroute s’agissant d’une première. Certes, l’histoire dit autre chose: Beethoven et l’orchestre ont joué la partition mais le public de Vienne n’a pas beaucoup aimé.

[@Poukak78]

👎

[@organbuilder272]

What a mockery of a genius. This NEVER happened. So he can't speak as well as being deaf. BS!!.

[@Lurgansahib]

What sort of idiot are you?

[@happypiano4810]

He’s post-lingually deaf, so his speech wouldn’t necessarily be impaired.