The Definitive Super Auto Pets Tier List

dont mean to be controversial... #ludwig #superautopets #tierlist

[@Theboss24710000]

Northernlion wanted me to tell you, if you aim at the king you best not miss.

[@someonefromsomewhere1009]

amen

[@bumgus2879]

amen

[@CritikalJari]

Aimen

[@ScottHasADog]

Xmen

[@ThePlayerCmondinger]

amen

[@someguy4661]

Cannot overstate how much I love the SAP content. Any chance you’ll be hunting for medals soon?

[@nic4234]

He mentions this at the end of the video

[@gforce7431]

@@nic4234 I agree

[@HyperManic1000]

@@gforce7431 What do you agree with?

[@jackbandit2114]

He has medal hunts on his VOD channel.

[@igorslb359]

@@jackbandit2114 this is the vods channel (kinda late BTW)

[@epilog80]

This is just based on strategies tbh. I agree on many of these, but i see how his playstyle makes him choose some pets over others.

[@SametTheTurk]

Most surprising placement is the Buffalo imo. You usually buy at least 2 pets per turn, so at worst it's a Bison *without* the level 3 pet requirement, and if you *do* build a pet-buying team, it's much better than a Bison!

[@bingbong2179]

yeah no buffalo is such an easy run saviour if you haven't had good rolls up til that point. Also not to mention if you get an early buffalo on turn 5 it's soooo much better than bison. Crazy how much he undervalues it. Badger should also defs have been in A, like it literally is "Always a good option" unless you're at like turn 10. I'd also put snake in A for sure, level 2 snake is still ridiculous especially with deers or melon armour guaranteeing 2 or 3 procs. Like it's one of the units that makes tigers so good so I feel like it should be placed on par with tiger. I would've put the fly as well in A, it's such a good unit just to beef up the team when tier 6s first come around, like it's a 5/5 that summons 3 other 5/5s. So it's an easy 20/20 of stats for 3 gold, super underrated, not to mention combo potential with tigers and snakes (fly snake and unit in front of snake with melon guarantees 3 procs, with tiger that's 6 procs) AND really good scaling at level 2.

[@puhjay]

Watching tier 3 llama runs where you swap out the fifth slot made me try for the buffalo & got a win, so Ludwig's def underestimating the power of the unit. However it's best when you get it to tier 2 quickly. Works w/🐔, 🐉, any unit that gets you gold to buy more pets with (🐐, 🦢) easy buy and sell units (🐖, 🐌, 🐄). Kinda hoping to experiment w/ it more

[@puhjay]

Can we all start talking about SAP units in emojis now because ngl that was fun

[@dmarsub]

@@puhjayit's also great for 🐕

[@bradleypercival2557]

Buffalo is an absolute beast, I couldn't believe it was the first D tier unit. It's A tier for me

[@tangyspy]

Buffalo works for me a lot of the the time if I get it on turn 5. It's like a better dog.

[@jakedanielsen4512]

It is a better dog

[@AliG-ih8ku]

or in a squad with a dog, with shrimp too is a great early game combo

[@liampett1313]

You level up at 4 and get a buffalo it's a must take. It's at least a B tier.

[@yugiohftw101]

I got a turn 11 win with a buffalo dog build

[@invin_2940]

hes just a hater lmfao buffalo is so good

[@kyleravensbergen385]

I think hippo should move up a tier, you can get it early on, starts out pretty strong, and fits into scaling builds amazingly, while dominating summons, I recognize it isn't the ultimate pet but it is very good and balanced, that concludes my speech

[@Uniformbogen]

however hippo is just a much weaker boar

[@terichix8494]

Imo its a real feast or famine using hippo. You need to invest alot into it and if it doesnt kill youre in deep shit. But on the other hand it can really shred

[@kyleravensbergen385]

@@Uniformbogen did he even rank boar, also boar comes so much later that's the trade off

[@Uniformbogen]

@@kyleravensbergen385 however the problem is hippo is only good if he has high stats already or is atleast lvl 2. +2/+2 wont do much for you. and on tier 4 there are just too few buffers. boar isn't even s or a tier for me.

[@Sniksir]

Because summon is uncommon nowadays hippo is essentially a vanilla pet that starts off with stats that are likely worse than what you have if you are building correctly. Like others have said you need to invest everything into it and it has no scaling upside unlike other pets that come in tier 4 or earlier. Chiefly the premiere options of rooster, bison, ox, badger and dodo of which you will likely always have one copy of one of them. Even a Swan is better to invest food into as it will stay on the board until the end game and will not cause you to sink or swim, allowing you to remain flexible. Although I would not recommend investing food into a swan unless it is already large and/or has melon armor (aside from giving it meat bone which is a pretty standard play). Imo from an experienced player POV hippo has extremely few use cases. Even if you reveal it on turn 5, the tempo gained in exchange for 2 gold can often be better spent on other things. On top of all the other downsides the hippo clogs up your slots and makes playing turtle, snail, etc. very awkward.

[@vintagekittencircus]

ludwig will really be like "idk why u guys say u lose at sap so much, its not that hard" and then also can rattle off every pet's stats and abilities and their use in the game without reference.

[@ZeldavsMusic]

i think he had the wiki up during this, it kinda looked like that's what he was looking at at some points

[@bingbong2179]

@@ZeldavsMusic I doubt he would need the wiki up, he's got way more hours than me (I have 70) I can rattle off all the abilities, and I know the ballpark of stats for everything.

[@jimmyprice4698]

Just watching this video really reminded me how well the SAP did balancing OP characters from last patch.

[@zl1ck371]

in general SAP seems to do a better job at balancing than I've seen from any other game

[@GEM4sta]

@@zl1ck371 I mean, compare the complexity of League of Legends system to this... Of course it's simple to balance, you can borderline solve the game mathematically. It's more surprising that there are any OP characters

[@Blaurot]

@@GEM4sta wow ur brain must be pushing against your skull, so smart

[@youngjiang1168]

@@GEM4sta An auto battler can be pretty hard to balance since theres millions even billions variations of different team and out of all possible team combinations theres always gonna be few that'll have higher winrates than others. Take TFT for example there'll always be two or three comps that people will abuse, because they're OP.

[@loomic]

@@youngjiang1168I don’t think the person was saying autobattlers are simple, just SAP itself is, which is true. TFT has a much more in-depth item system, synergies with all the different traits, and strategical positioning and all the different set gimmicks. While achieving good balance in a game is still a nice achievement, SAP has a lot less variables to work with to do so.

[@nixian5032]

You should do a challenge where you exclusively use this tier lists rankings to try to win and see how well you did

[@StreetSmartNathan]

Good idea Pierce!

[@gforce7431]

Good idea Pierce!

[@kingofcharisma7569]

Good idea Pierce!

[@sparklee5044]

Good idea! Bartels

[@LowKeyWalrus]

Good idea Pierce!

[@coledorillo6685]

Poor Ludwig, hasn't even found out about the bacta strats.

[@TropicalPhysics]

He calls it the 'hyperbolic time chamber". Different name, same thing.

[@Garalina]

whale is super gimmicky but man do i think it’s so fun to pull off, deer whale ox goes crazy

[@iamtheshaker]

Croc is underrated in general, and definitely against turkey, fly, or badger comps (level 2 assuredly kills them)

[@Ludlose]

I think Croc is just as good as Dolphin if not better specifically for killing the targets you named. Nothing is more satisfying than your croc sniping a Badger and just ruining that guys day. If people are running a turkey build their often gonna have a summoner with less hp than the turkey that the dolphin will hit instead.

[@sethgiap5060]

Big problem is most of the time croc hits either a scaler or huge unit, rarely will it hit a target you want

[@Ludlose]

@@sethgiap5060 I mean if dolphin isn’t hitting a scorpion it’s also probably hitting a scaler or deer. But also you almost NEVER see a big unit in the back

[@HayDog322]

@@sethgiap5060 croc being the only sniper to hit a certain slot is very good. With the honey badger meta a level two croc usually will give the badger killing what ever is ahead. Also good for spawners. It’s a good mid game unit

[@iamtheshaker]

@@sethgiap5060 I'd disagree with that, level 2 crock will almost always kill the back unit unless they've had dragon in for a while. Rarely do I see the tanky unit at the back

[@dannymcgervey2151]

Buffalo might be my big disagreement. It doesn't always work with a squad you ahev when you get it, but it is a better dog

[@garrettowner6006]

Same… he doesn’t respect cycle build… he talked all that shit on swan, when goat is just swan but 3x the potential, but put it in f tier

[@GodInHisPrime]

@@garrettowner6006 goat is a freakin tier 5. Swan shows up on round 2 and there's no condition to its effect, you get straight up extra gold. That being said, buffalo is like A tier for me

[@garrettowner6006]

@@GodInHisPrime goat is a level 3 swan more or less tho… I’m not saying it’s a or s tier, but to put it in the unplayable tier is awful… a level 3 goat can literally yield you 19 total gold, and if you sell the animals literally more than doubled your starting gold… level three swan gives you one extra animal… ppl overrate the swan and underrate the goat

[@GodInHisPrime]

@@garrettowner6006 I guess I haven’t taken the goat enough, but surely swan is better. You can take advantage of swan in ANY build, not just a cycle build. And when it shows up it’s a decently strong unit stats wise, whereas the goat is basically a dead unit for a tier 5.

[@garrettowner6006]

@@GodInHisPrime I just think swan is like b tier at best, and goat is high c tier… more upside, less use cases… the swan just doesn’t give as much value as other base support units… like no one can ever convince me a swan is better than a penguin, monkey, poodle, bat… it’s just mid

[@Vorpalis]

Hey, Lud, you missed the boar, and I was very interested to hear your thoughts on it.

[@vanilla_sorbet]

tru

[@youngjiang1168]

its pretty trash

[@kingofcharisma7569]

its not very good :/ To late in the game

[@aetbhieiils]

It's strange that Ludwig likes "buy/sell" animals like Chicken and Dragon so much but hates Buffalo with passion.

[@SerialBull]

dont forget the slander on scampi

[@codyowings9895]

I'm gonna just pretend you didn't put that Bluebird above an Ant

[@invin_2940]

giving attack for permanent for every turn essentially being a small scaler AS A FUCKING TIER 1? thats almost as good as otter

[@alexanderweinrich7418]

This content is immense. I love it NL should do another tier list too

[@ZeldavsMusic]

I'd have to agree with everyone else on the Buffalo here. I think you're overlooking the differences in the dog/buffalo mechanics when you're comparing them aswell. Dog needs a space to get the buff because the ability triggers on 'summon' while buffalo just needs a pet to be 'bought'. You can also get it on turn 5 if you've planned to level something up for that turn, so yeah it's just a wayyyyyy better dog.

[@andrewg.3281]

Hard disagree. There is a major difference in the time when you get each of them. Early dog makes it very slightly usable since you will be buying more and will have space open, but Buffalo comes way too late for its terrible buffs. Like he said, 1 1 in tier 4 is just terrible when you could just easily get a bison instead. Plus, there is a much wider pool of animals to get in tier 4 so just getting more to upgrade can even take a while.

[@MrMapacheco]

Sloth has been ROBBED! Absolutely cumstered, you should be ashamed of yourself for forgetting such a godlike creature. The absolute content buff it gives is amazing. Literally tons of clout for just 3 gold 🦥 Also: whale gang + L + ratio 🐋

[@stormlight_0577]

i would love more exclusives on here, its good to hear the chill vibe instead of the live one from time to time. same for mogul mail, love it

[@keywhat217]

Ludwig coming from someone normal not a CEO from super auto pets... What animal would you like to see added to this game. I personally think a chameleon could be interesting which would introduce a new concept of stealing your rivals abilities.

[@Roxanneredpanda]

I wanna see a red panda because they're cute and it could be a trickster type of mechanic

[@pacsthe1st465]

a wolf where the more wolfs you have the more buffs your wolfs get

[@HyperManic1000]

I'm thinking there's a severe lack of bears. Brown, black, polar and even pandas

[@sparklee5044]

Koala - hurt: gives enemies std I mean weakness.

[@sparklee5044]

Frog

[@Budderick]

It would be cool if lud or someone did a challenge where they only used the A or S tier units from this list. Great video!

[@taiscommentingaccountusedf1908]

I really wanna see an updated version of this list with the changes and new pets

[@ihatelosing9508]

does he even play this game now?

[@christianflora2316]

Buffalo in the last tier (below the Dog lol) is the biggest L take I've seen from Lud when it comes to SAP. Getting it on turn 5 is almost easy 10 wins in my experience. Goat thing isn't a bug either btw. It says friend bought, so it has to be a different unit than itself. Hippo low because of base stats, but Gorilla that high when it's 2 tiers later? (The coconut armor sound is amazing though)

[@Minkeyman42069]

he didn't mean a literal bug just that it should work for itself

[@roodiger]

@@Minkeyman42069 He said it was an oversight on their part, but they worded it right there, so it is intentional.

[@carsonroach-howell6945]

It's true. Buffalo > Bison IMO. Bison very often takes too long to scale and requires you to keep what is likely a pretty useless unit just because it's level 3. A buffalo can be scaled super fast if you want it to and it synergizes with dragon super well and chicken.

[@zacharylovelace6494]

1:00:50 skunk also a good combo with dolphin. Make 50/50 and 50/1 and then doplphin hits lowest HP target and just kills it.. kinda broken

[@invin_2940]

50 50 has melon so dolphin is invaild

[@bingbong2179]

@@invin_2940 yeah not to mention he's assuming you get level 3 skunk which is very rare and generally a bad idea as decreasing by 66% means they should die late game to any of your big units in one hit.

[@karateks]

badger in B is the biggest throw ive seen since the last Pogchamps

[@AliG-ih8ku]

Nice list & content!! :) I agree with the majority of the list but have some thoughts: Early Dog & Buffalo (optional Shrimp) is a nice synergised perma gain that gives you 2 ~20/20 to 30/30's by mid game allowing easier transitions into other strategies, and a quick 50/50 with the help of T-Rex or another late game buffer, try it next time you get offered early dog/buffalo, tier 2 dog is kinda needed though. Bat tier 3 is one of the best end-game pets, tier 2 is also great for most of the game and can easily win rounds on it's own by removing melon or garlic from the right unit, it's weak so maybe high B but personally think it's A. I think blue bird and giraffe's scaling are too slow that they should be B tier but it's debatable. Mammoth is C imo, maybe B, compare it to T-Rex which gives you 2/1 every turn and takes the same space as Mammoth, but Mammoth also requires a pill to give it's buff permanently and then you also have to buy something to fill it's slot, whereas T-Rex is a scaling unit you can put steak on etc. Mammoth has it's place but really for a 4 squad build or similar.

[@conleyratzlaff1481]

Will you do a food teir list next? Also if you do would you also include what each does as reference for those who may not be super familiar! Thank you love the videos and streams.

[@isaacsyard6124]

Where’s boar?

[@dylanlasher5022]

Really loving the straight to youtube content lud

[@dAveImperator]

Lol isn't all his content straight to KZbin now though?

[@toastitup3482]

You should use Buffalo more, it actually is good, at least B.

[@Frungle_]

It’s just a late dog

[@toastitup3482]

@@Frungle_ it's a late dog before they made dog trash. Dog was probably A or even S tier before that, so a B tier should be fair.

[@shcottam]

Buffalo scales so much faster than bison for the cost of an extra slot. It's actually cracked. Easy b tier in my book. Dog is trash now

[@xf3s_]

i have such a hard time using horses because every time i see one i hear northernlion saying "it's a flesh apple" like that is a statement that will haunt me until the end of my days i think

[@walkerblack1833]

you forgot to put boar on the tier list

[@papeya]

A lot of my wins in PTW were with the Buffalo. Fantastic in combination with Dragon and Llama. And the Croc sniped flies, turkeys and sharks for me which gave me the win. Wouldn't rank it much higher but it deserves some respect. otherwise I mostly agree

[@svantewiktorsson]

I love all the SAP vods, they don’t miss

[@Soggerz]

FINALLY. IVE WANTED THIS LIST FOR SO LONG

[@andrewg.3281]

Massively undervalued the squirrel. Freezing the food in the shop and getting it cheaper next round is really helpful.

[@CatholicBaseball8]

thanks for doing this, I have screen shotted others who have done this and will screenshot your rankings and save to my desktop for reference. I cant figure this game out, played 30 games and have not won a game. The players I play against are always the best.

[@dominiczappala3150]

Here I was, giving up on life, and ludwig vods drops another video to feed my copuim

[@sebastianriddell6614]

Ludwig, Goat is a “friend bought” unit, it doesn’t work on itself, similar to something like a dog buff or a Buffalo not activating for themselves, but rabbit can give itself health so it may be an oversight, who knows

[@andrayz5956]

can u please do a guide for sap, Ive uninstalled it cuz every time I play I spend like 45mins and then get sad.

[@jeppejuul7620]

So i just started playing and there are alot of animals that i have never seen like the bat, caterpillar, chicken, owl and so on. I play on mobile. Is it something to do with that?

[@brockjenks]

Sorry for nobody responding, its on the pack you buy

[@Ragnell123]

Halfway between an apple and a pear would be an Asian pear. Tastes sorta like a combination of both with a consistency closer to an apple.

[@zl1ck371]

favorite fruit but no one ever seems to know about it lol

[@BrownEyedPrincess1]

Buffalo is really good with chicken or dragon builds. You have to be doing a buy/sell and it's dope. Also it triggers even if you place a pet on top of another. Dog only triggers if you place in an empty slot. It's a situational pet but can be good in tandem with others. Caterpillar is amazing for 2 reasons. Easiest way to ensure you will ALWAYS have level 3 to buff the bison and I lose to them all the time unless I run a dolphin which is meh against anything other than scorpion and butterfly

[@psychedelicbee5039]

I don't have the pack, so buffalo sounds like a dream to me compared to all the times I've miserably struggled trying to get dog off the ground.

[@BrownEyedPrincess1]

@@psychedelicbee5039 oof dog is a trap! It used to be better because it showed up a tier earlier but now by the time you get it, it's almost impossible to get it working. They nerfed too hard imo

[@lucaskasssab4543]

@@psychedelicbee5039 honestly the five bucks for the pack is really worth how much fun it is

[@zl1ck371]

I agree, I wouldn't put it in anything higher than top of C tho

[@psychedelicbee5039]

@@lucaskasssab4543 I'm planning on getting it just not sure when. Kinda wanna get all level 3 units from free to play first, but I also feel like I'm getting a little burnt out doing that

[@centaurtale]

you know your game is good when the tier list is this balanced

[@zacharyjohnson7944]

How can you put bison below dog when it’s literally just a better vesion

[@Shardon115]

I LOVE the SAP content! We need more 😂💜

[@vibelord7440]

next time lud should make a combo tier list

[@hanselfinn8946]

Everybody start talking like Stanz and Northernlion when making autopets content

[@theaegislash8249]

ludwig rly forgot fly when talking about summon builds lmao

[@shirley_grace]

Where do you put the sloth on this list?

[@XxWil203xX]

He really did put the buffalo below the dog

[@JRDUDE2007]

Shark works really well around a faint deck and *cough* *cough* summon decks

[@JRDUDE2007]

It also can dodge the skunk if you just have something with slightly more health

[@bryannov9068]

all i learned is that ludwig doesn’t know the base stats of any animal

[@genevievekennedy8117]

glad super auto vods lives on

[@tun1p]

Lud's gonna be going comp in SAP soon I bet.

[@lucabotten3648]

What's up with the twitch-cup? Love theese vids

[@amperscore]

Just finished ur last vid, accidentally clicked on ur channel, and saw this just uploaded. lol

[@GoldenWeavile]

Ludwig can we please get an updated tier list with the new patch that got released a couple weeks ago?

[@RatedManatee]

The Ox being able to constantly reset its melon is what makes it so frustrating. Can't snipe it.

[@tengakino]

Snail is S-tier for sure, buffs your whole team for two gold if buy and sell and can always freeze for later for +4/+2

[@LIEFDEenHAAT]

I almost feel like you need to make 2 separate lists because with the different packs of pets some pets like the rhino has far more value. in the expansion he is almost not even worth getting because its so hard to scale. but if you get a giraffe and a Monkey in the base pack almost nothing can really deal with it.

[@frosteratsody4897]

I love 2 northernlion SAP uploads in one day!

[@horniiboi]

Used this tier list as reference... now im winning alll my games 🙌

[@reesebenson3215]

For the algorithm I will say I think Bat could go up. I think it does alot early to fuck with garlic armor on big units, is middling mid game but if you go for level 3 can make a big difference late game when basically every unit has some sort of food item buff removing melon armor, steaks and mushrooms on 3 units is strong.

[@ellisonbayan3700]

Dragon is way too high. It's tier 6, and by that time your team should be decently leveled and synergistic that opening two spots is tough, especially keeping one with a tier 1 animal so it'll be used again to cycle through next round. On top of that the RNG of even getting tier 1s in the shop when you want them, vs using the money to buy food or level a pet, it's just a hard unit to utilize. But I guess when things alone, the value is great since one buy is like several apples/pears or a little more than one sushi/pizza/etc.

[@umbranight1628]

Animals from the shop will take over the original animals stats if it’s big enough

[@JustinDoesntLookAt]

damn crazy how much the game has changed since then lmao

[@jorgechicot8744]

Best part of the video is listening to Ludwig not know how to do math

[@irbest6148]

The tier names are on point

[@Masticore_]

I played plenty of dog and buffalo builds and let me tell you, getting a 50/50 buffalo is easy, you don't even have to build your entire game around him, the dog on the other hand just blows buffalo is probably one of the best scalling units in the game

[@n2k970]

Early lvl 2 dog is just as good as buffalo. Dog only sucks when it’s stuck lvl 1 all game

[@austinrichards3399]

Buffalo, dog, shrimp is one of my favorite builds

[@SametTheTurk]

@@n2k970 Level 2 Dog is just as good as Level 1 Buffalo, except with opportunity cost since you have to leave a space open for the dog to get buffed. Level 2 Buffalo is already better than Level 3 Dog on stats alone, plus you don't have to leave the open space!

[@Masticore_]

@@n2k970 the buffalo gets the buff even if you just upgrade the pet, for the dog you always have to make extra space, also a level 2 dog is harder to get than a level 1 buffalo so I do think the buffalo is way better

[@petersmythe6462]

I sometimes buy ducks. IMO, they're better than a beaver in many cases. I'm almost never looking for a duck but getting a few, waiting for a lucky store, doing a mass wipe, and buying the store, you can really get some good animals.

[@TheRPB53]

croc and squirrel deserve to be up a tier. Croc can snipe turkeys, flys, badgers and mostly everything in the back once level 2. Squirrel fits really well with food builds freezing good foods and buying for cheap is nice, ive had some great squirrel runs but def circumstantial.

[@mina_rdhd]

Yesss, I've been waiting for this one

[@mina_rdhd]

69th comment pog

[@quinndartt7541]

Ludwig I need this guide man I suck

[@n8glo]

up next, SAP food tier list

[@JRDUDE2007]

You should try octopus in the back with a Mushroom on it, cause it's just a free 12 damage to 2 people

[@bmumf]

Otter is actually goated. So happy I'm not the only one who thinks so.

[@untexan]

Crocodile is a must with all the summon spam builds in the meta. Wipe out the turkey or fly (or honey badger) at the back and you just ruin the other team. Way higher than C tier.

[@ChristianJeremyOcaya]

13:40 Think of the buffalo/bison this way: Lvl 1 Bison: feed it twice +2-4, at the end of the round, it still get's +2 +2. Total buffs in a round would be at least +4-6. Lvl 1 buffalo: you want to maximize buying animals. At max (w/o swan, goat) you could buy 4 animals. +4+4 each round. Maybe +2+2 or +3+3 with rolls

[@niti.n]

Only problem is bison requires a level three and sometimes that just happens way too late. You have a bit more control of the Buffalo.

[@cartersarkela5296]

Problem with buffalo is that it's so much investment for the scaling of one unit, barring sell buffs like beaver. It limits your options to buy foods because you're locked in all game to buying pets otherwise your buffalo is wasted space. Passive scaling is just so much better because it's free stats vs stats that cost

[@ChristianJeremyOcaya]

@@cartersarkela5296 yeah and it locks you into this buy/sell vs food meta. Honestly, you can definitely make it work sometimes, sacrificing stability for a flexible team and rely on the shop for good animal rolls. I think buy/sell is more fun than food meta. There's just a lot more thinking required for food meta.

[@invin_2940]

@@cartersarkela5296 bro dog exist you can get dog with buffalo and also in p2w there is owl where is the same pack as buffalo making there more option for buffalo buy sell, also when you get to tier 5 goat exist making it so u get like at least one more pet buy, not long after tier 5 is tier 6 where dragon exist, do i say more with dragon buffalo dog? no

[@invin_2940]

and ludwig obviously forgot that economy pets works very nicely with buffalo such as swan pig, pig also happens to be tier 1 which means dragon can buff with buying it. He also doesnt know the BEST EVER turn 5 level up is buffalo, NOT EVEN BISON. For the reason being early game gold matters less than late game gold meaning you get to use early gamr gold for buffalo buy. you easily get a 11/11 by turn 6, buffalo also scales shit fast if you get turn 5 buffalo making it so you ca get A FUCKING 50/50 by turn 11.

[@bendsf3980]

I am literally playing a dog summon buff build right now Lud how the fuck did you know

[@po5124]

The money background is literally Big As OBS overlay or some thing he used it alot for marketing monday. Probably got there when he was using Luds setup

[@note663]

maybe a short food tier list like before you play? idk i'm dumb

[@ChiefenKief]

He actually came back from the corner store this time

[@Squidmoto3]

I like your tier list because I can tell it's your own. Nothing against Stanz, but when I watch him play he very clearly thinks X is good/bad because someone better than him said that - and not for literally any reason other than that (well I guess unless you're counting his confirmation bias). Like he thinks Horse-Cricket is bad too when it literally dominates early rounds - and he now thinks that the old version of Duck was horrible even though on the old patch he said it was good enough to warrant inting 2-3 rounds a game for them. I know people opinions change as they improve, but they should change because of data, not because someone else said so. This is a problem in the LoL community aswell. People will think X,Y, and Z items are good/bad because it's what pros are building - when the reality is 99% of pros don't even know the reasoning behind the buys, they do it because it's what they see other people doing.

[@MommyMoments855]

hi Lud, I love your vids, they make me smile :)

[@Dolceandgabana]

There's more ads in this video than actual video holy cow

[@arvidtunvall7836]

early in the video but you should really have had the description next to you on your monitor since you got the beaver and snails abilities wrong

[@latissimusdomsi]

I think the Dog/Buffalo/Scampy/Swan engine is underrated post-nerf. It's not as oppressive as it once was since the Dog comes 1 round later but it still works when you get it on the level-up.

[@inokevin7881]

I didn’t see boar on there. Where would you rate it? My guess is A tier?

[@ChioChao]

I think I would've liked to see a tier list based on good early game animals, late game, mid game, pivot animals, and maybe animals that you could keep throughout. I also think this list is more arena based, I see croc, hippo, bat and rhino as A ranked animals in versus.

[@Katarina-wz6vq]

Whats the thing with Ludwig and lofi girl?

[@Slimebiter]

i LOVE the SAP content so much

[@wauby]

When the vod channel just becomes a SAP channel

[@BigFudgy]

Hewwo Ludwig, these SAP videos get me thru the work day and are great. much appreciated brother

[@kylehankins5988]

I have to say I actually love peacock ngl, although now that I think about it it might not be as good because you have to scale it manually and when you do that the damage bonus becomes less

[@swasome5821]

Paused in the middle of video for dub. Did not get it, but close enough to satisfy me.

[@PokemonWalkthroughDS]

Buffalo being F tier is a cringe take, it literally scales faster than a bison and is more flexible as long as you get it early enough since it's more rare than you'd think getting a tier 3 unit as well as your tier 3 not being great. One argument for the bison is it's amazing synergy with the caterpillar which you also have at a very low tier so obviously you don't even value that aspect that much. Also the worm scales much slower than a buffalo as well since it gets it's 1/1 every 3 gold rather than 2 not including any buy or sell upsides with the animals bought, and not including the fact that not that many food items work well with the worm and you often need to roll much more often.

[@CL32582]

We need you to make more content with NL. Possibly a SAP tournament.

[@juliandelphiki4435]

I think the bat should move up, his biggest reason for mosquito was that it removed melon armor from units late game, and the bat does the same thing but more