Surprised yall didn't even mention how he was radicalized by his own personal back injury I feel like this is the most directly materialist read you can give for the whole killing; he wasn't doing this just because he felt some idealistic duty against corruption, he did it because of real, physical debilitating pain that this guy and other guys like him had indirectly facilitated. I think this is why overall the personal politics or background or individual beliefs or whatever don't necessarily match up; because the material realities of his own physical body trumped all of that.
@watcher85828 күн бұрын
No, I don't think at all that he doesn't want a different world. He seems smart enough to see that this is but a token action to stir the pot. I don't think you even believe what's said in that section either - what gives?
@piratesocialist93507 күн бұрын
UnitedHealth Group is #17 by market cap in the US, but #4 by revenue in 2024 (I'd say the latter is more substantial).
@mattgilbert73477 күн бұрын
Apparently he selected them because of market cap, not because he is a customer?
@piratesocialist93507 күн бұрын
@@mattgilbert7347 In his note Luigi does call UnitedHealth #4 by market cap and he was wrong about that, but Luigi likely got #4 from the Fortune 500, where they rank by revenue.
@osoisko19338 күн бұрын
I’m currently fighting with United to get a medication that was already approved. But living in the States, most people aren’t like “yes this was the most awesome thing to ever happen!”, but ultimately what Luigi the Adjuster symbolizes and his motivations are widely supported.
@sealedindictmentКүн бұрын
35:20 isn’t this what the accelerationists want?
@J-ej6sj8 күн бұрын
Don't know the guy's name, but whichever one isn't Pills, Diego, or Eric has some goofy ass takes on this ep
@swagpilledcommisar7 күн бұрын
Libtor
@J-ej6sj7 күн бұрын
@@swagpilledcommisar is that his name or am i missing something?
@swagpilledcommisar7 күн бұрын
His name is Victor and I thought someone on this ep called him that@@J-ej6sj
@alainquays6 күн бұрын
His name is Victor @@J-ej6sj
@viq7775 күн бұрын
@@swagpilledcommisar I like it haha. Yeah, honestly, this was such a spontaneous episode, I was not well prepared (we recorded a patron episode right before and I was short on time). I had not read up on this much at all, so I agree my take was poor!
@mtg4lolz2874 күн бұрын
I’m surprised Pills didn’t draw parallels to Žižek at 38:00. All I can think about is the Adjuster being a perfect representation of the return of the repressed and the Real exploding forth. The Real doesn't care about your tech bro incoherent ideology. It’s going to explode through the gaps in your ideology. How can that trauma ever be anything but violence? The inescapable logic of the system is shattered by the radical indeterminacy of the Real. Contradictions laid bare, and the symbolic starts to shift. New desires start to form as we understand our lack. (This is a theoretical discussion of the deeper philosophical meaning behind current events. I really don’t need the feds at my door. I do not condone violence in any form.)
@Landon.Trotsky8 күн бұрын
I would refer to this national disease of toxic, hyper-individualism us Americans all have as just Lockean metaphysics - rather than liberal metaphysics. Too many of us use liberal as a slur now, otherwise liberal metaphysics would still be good. 😂
@CygentaOmicron6 күн бұрын
you guys seem really disconnected from the reality in the USA, fr. Free Luigi.
@watcher85828 күн бұрын
I don't think he's short - quite the opposite. Look at the photos where he's taken away by the police.
@craigjackson35507 күн бұрын
When it comes to Luigi's efficacy, there's also something to be said of the tribal bonding of a shared scapegoat in the herd.
@maze85314 күн бұрын
By the way, a podcast for Ted would be very bery interesting.
@lateplus83037 күн бұрын
Not this histrionic Diego guy again
@shannonm.townsend12327 күн бұрын
Pair this with most recent True Anon episode same topic.
@ploufbadaboum22216 күн бұрын
on politics and leftist terrosism you can read the novel "nada" by jean patrick manchette, great one
@walterramirezt4 күн бұрын
I have to disagree with you guys on here. This episode feels cynical. This is the story of a guy who has experienced in the flesh the failure of the corrupt corporate health system in the country. He is someone who has the courage of taking action, even if that's outside the confines of what we consider "moral" or whatever made sense within his worldview. He is not pretending to be Che Guevara. It's like in "intellectual" environments we need to have a flawless theoretical framework and debate hundreds of people instead of taking any action while millions of people keep dying every day. Some people don't have that luxury and some people didn't have the opportunity of learning the entire history of western leftists thinkers.
@drayzorn7 күн бұрын
I'm no fan boy but I thought Pills was sharp this episode.
@KariKari-j7x7 күн бұрын
I hate to do it but contrapoint’s endlessly critique power is probably true. This is what the first salvos of class revolt in the 21st century are gonna look like, messy and contradictory. You can lament they’ve not read Bakunin or you can go with the flow.
@aaronborok83986 күн бұрын
Where does contrapoints mention this?
@KariKari-j7x6 күн бұрын
@@aaronborok8398the video Envy. She’s using it regarding resentment amongst radicals critiquing reformism but it’s more interesting flipped on its head. “They don't want victory, they don't want power, they want to endlessly "critique" power. Because for them, "critique" is an important psychological defense against feeling impotent.”
@manuag38868 күн бұрын
Great title
@osoisko19338 күн бұрын
Agreed
@alistair_maldacena7 күн бұрын
Mangione actually translates to "glutton", according to Google. Which is apt, because he was gluttonous of class-traitorism
@Knifesistaken7 күн бұрын
Babe, new analytical framework just dropped. We're saying "is this serving ideology?" now
@swagpilledcommisar8 күн бұрын
Love that Diego is a cohost at this point
@badlula177 күн бұрын
I dont. I mean he’s cool but he suffers from a bad case of “radical therefore cool”
@crocodilehole7 күн бұрын
He's cool, but I miss matt.
@sevvvs4 күн бұрын
was really looking forward to you guys discussing this topic then I heard that Diego’s unbearably annoying voice… wish it could just have been the episode without him.
@110110001011101007 күн бұрын
Why the unilateral hate for humanism?
@mattgilbert73477 күн бұрын
LM's ideologically incoherent statement comes off as Tier-1(ie: Normie)Techno-Capitalist, radically Centrist, Effective Altruism by way of Ted K & all fed through ChatGBT. I agree with the fellow who said it's "different ideologies battling it out with each other". Someone on a different podcast made the observation "him citing Michael Moore is like if Brevik cited Bill Maher". This remark was intended to show just how"Normie" his perspective really is, as far as we know. Having said that, I pity the guy, which is infinitely more feeling that I'll ever have for the likes of Thompson. I hope something other than some pseudo-political "altering the discourse" BS comes out of this. I really do. "Evidently, I am the only one to face it with such brutal honesty" is the high point. He nailed that ending. The opening lines about "the Feds " and how much he respects the thin blue line - this is sus. It reads coerced, or at least can be read as kinda coerced.
@KariKari-j7x7 күн бұрын
Meanwhile the well read right on anarcho communist massive has done absolutely nothing since May 68. I say this as one of the tribe. The Feds bit was put in by them no doubt.
7 күн бұрын
I'm just so glad to hear Diego's voice here ❤ love u babe