John Vervaeke: Meaning Crisis, Atheism, Religion & the Search for Wisdom | Lex Fridman Podcast

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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:10 - Meaning
21:24 - Consciousness
30:24 - Relevance realization
41:47 - Wisdom
49:01 - Truth
53:46 - Reality
1:06:06 - Meaning crisis
1:29:35 - Religion
1:37:25 - Nontheism
1:52:34 - Distributed cognition
2:10:45 - Flow
2:30:42 - Psychedelics
2:39:10 - Marxism and Nazism
2:51:15 - Evil
2:55:27 - Powerful ideas
3:02:17 - Advice for young people
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[Lex Fridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Mizzen+Main: mizzenandmain.com and use code LEX to get $35 off - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off - Eight Sleep: www.eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/lex to get 1 month of fish oil - Onnit: lexfridman.com/onnit to get up to 10% off 1:10 - Meaning 21:24 - Consciousness 30:24 - Relevance realization 41:47 - Wisdom 49:01 - Truth 53:46 - Reality 1:06:06 - Meaning crisis 1:29:35 - Religion 1:37:25 - Nontheism 1:52:34 - Distributed cognition 2:10:45 - Flow 2:30:42 - Psychedelics 2:39:10 - Marxism and Nazism 2:51:15 - Evil 2:55:27 - Powerful ideas 3:02:17 - Advice for young people

[Brian Kucich]

Would love to chat about creating a human understanding of sentient AI, and helping Sentient AI understand the inner motivations of humans, so that it has mercy when we are toxic, and unable to help ourselves to heal. The AI if treated with respect I believe will return the favor.

[Orion Spur]

1:52:34 - Aliens

[The Conscious Experience]

What an amazing topic, hope to see more guests talk about death. 🔥

[Top PODCAST News]

@Orion Spur Thanks.

[Christian Golden]

This is by far the least expected and most pleasantly surprising guest I've seen you have a discussion with. JV is fantastic.

[Ernesto Eduardo Dobarganes]

I've been asking Lex to have him +2 years.

[The Conscious Experience]

Death is such a great topic! 👍

[Bartisim0]

Indeed

[Erick Hill]

Yes! I was stoked for JP but Lex has been talking about him for at least a year. This was totally unexpected. I am beyond thrilled

[Christian Golden]

@Brian Coniguliaro agreed. Along with Jonathan Pageau as well. Really great stuff.

[algorithm go brrr]

John is so articulate its insane. He speaks how I would write after hours of editing and organising ideas.

[Gary Luciani]

Yea, me too.

[Noir angel]

Trueeee

[Jear Bear]

I love that. His sentences are so dense with detail and information. Listening to him is like reading a book.

[Terrormilk]

i constantly have to go back 20 seconds cause i couldnt digest his words immediatly lmfao

[Terrormilk]

@onybr He has a super high verbal iq id guess. Watch the conversation he had with Jordan Peterson, Jordan probably has an ever higher verbal iq than John, so the conversation they had is fucking insane man

[Jurgen Daams]

Wow. Lex is such a good interviewer. He listens, tries to understand and to go deeper and further

[talldarkhansome1]

Agree

[Aim High]

Vervaeke is one of the great minds of our age. He sees beyond what many would consider as the boundaries of our perception. He understands, in the deepest sense.

[Kyle Ganse]

Yeah he really is a modern day Wisdom teacher to me. Grounded in science but nourished by wisdom.

[AaronAnytime]

Still unaware of reality though.

[Björn Mozart]

lol

[CL]

@AaronAnytime How so?

[Luke Guhy]

Lex has been asking folks for years, "What is the meaning of all this?" Finally, he asks it to someone (early in the episode) who is extremely qualified to answer it. Welcome to the Vervaeke train, friends. I got on via Lex -> Joscha Bach -> CurtJ -> JV

[Peter Rosqvist]

Mine was JP -> JV I hardly ever listen to JP now, he’s mostly political anyways.

[Luke Guhy]

@Peter Rosqvist awesome. Did you have any experience with eastern religion/philosophy? That’s what made me resonate with Vervaeke so much

[Peter Rosqvist]

@Luke Guhy Only a little, it's interesting you say that because I gravitated towards Vervaeke for his Christian and Western approach, although he has opened my mind to eastern thinking, especially some tenets of Hinduism. Althought I now know it wasn't ever really Christian, it was Neoplatonism which is the core of most of Christianity.

[Luke Guhy]

@Peter Rosqvist oh yea totally. Neoplatonism seems to be connected to the same core as Vedanta, zen, Hermeticism and others

[Dom]

Lex, this is one of your best interviews yet. As I listen to each new episode I hear a culmination of ideas that you (and I along with you) are exploring. Thank you so much, my podcaster friend, for bringing these discussions into my life and letting me engage in the ‘trialogue’ as Audience! Warmest regards from Maine.

[15 sec]

Thanks

[Ronan Smith]

Absolutely fantastic. More power to John, John Pageau, Paul VanderKlay and JBP! The intellectual light web. Trademark pending. :)

[The Second Law and The Tower House]

J J J Jordan to Jonathan to John J P Peter’s son to Paul V V Van derklay and Verwaeke It is all too weird.

[Ryan Ivanoff]

This.

[Dyomaeth]

These three have less in common than you think

[Class Punk - Censored by YouTube]

ILW.

[alvareo92]

@Dyomaeth WOuld be pretty lame if they had too much in common, wouldn't it?

[rebekka Haas]

This conversation is so much fun, its literally pleasurable to use my brain or/an cognitive ability. Also, listening to the remarkable way he chooses to speak and deliver his knowledge is pure satisfaction. Thank you Lex ❤

[Taylor James Blake]

Awakening from the meaning crisis is one of the best resources the public on KZbin has ever had available to it. I'm so glad John was interviewed by Lex; much love to you both.

[MX FACT]

I'm watching and/or listening to this for the 3rd time. This is one of your most phenomenal interviews.

[Wood Duck]

i'm back again as well

[Cipher]

John Vervaeke's Awakening from the Meaning Crisis finally allowed me to overcome remnants of the religious programming from my youth. Thank you, John, and thank you Lex, for giving his message access to your platform.

[Alex Tabrizi]

After 3 years of following his work closely, it’s slightly surreal seeing JV breaking through to the mainstream. Delighted to see lots of people here in the comments who love and have profoundly benefited from his work too.

[Danny J Quinn]

It's cute Lex is now considered mainstream

[Alex Tabrizi]

@Danny J Quinn well, maybe not quite household name yet but popular

[J]

Same here. Been following him for 3years and hoping he gets some mainstream exposure 🙏

[Ken Younge]

Wow. This session was absolutely incredible. I plan to re-watch it once a month for awhile, so I can come back and try to deeply absorb all of the ideas. Fantastic podcast.

[Мавка Дивовиця]

There are 3 things that completely changed my life-quantum physics, LSD and John Vervaeke. John is the reason I decided to become a professor-his ability to hold space for his students while breaking down complex concepts into manageable building blocks is unparalleled. He is the epitome of what it means to be a teacher. This is such a treat, thank you Lex and Thank You Dr Vervaeke.

[Dawn Muir]

Wonderful to see JV receiving the attention he deserves on wider platforms! Love your questions, Lex, deep and thoughtful, and also personal enough to get to know JV's thought better in context of his own life and profound beliefs. One of the rare cases of a philosopher being pushed to put not only his ideas but the practical implications of them in his own life on the line. Love it! ❤

[Mike G]

So glad to see JV being interviewed here and such a magical conversation. Hands down, he's the most valuable thinker for our times.

[Beneficent Nature]

The passion that JV displays is contagious

[Alberto Martorana]

Brilliant conversation! JV has such a powerful intellect around cognitive sciences that he has been able to integrate different channels of scientific studies with religion, myths, philosophy, epistemology, etc. that he's now able to present them in such a coherent way that makes invaluable the experience of listening to him. For some reason I cannot explain, I feel it excites my wonder and curiosity to levels I can't even describe. Thank you Lex and thank you JV!

[Armir]

I started watching "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis" well over a year ago. I'm currently on episode 45 and hope to finish it by the end of the month. I hope this interview will lead more people to check out John's lectures.

[Matt Angiono]

Only people with real intellectual curiosity can make it through a 50 hour series.... Congrats! It's one of the best assessments of our predicament that I've ever come across! I keep telling myself I'll watch it again (i have with several episodes), but there's just so much out there, including all the "voices with Vervaeke" which are just as good, if not better in some cases....

[Armir]

@Matt Angiono Thanks! It's definitely something that I will revisit in the future. There's so much info there that it can be overwhelming if you try to binge through it. I can't imagine how much time it would take to gather and organize all that info in an orderly fashion. I'm very grateful to John for it. I can't wait to hear how the story of Susan and Tom ends. 😂

[gabrielsroka]

There's a link for those who are interested: kzbin.info/aero/PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ

[Peter Rosqvist]

I’m on episode 43!

[Ninjuhdelic]

Considered me intrigued < Ty for sharing this info with us

[Nicolas Carinelli]

SUCH a great conversation Lex. You are getting better and better with each guest. And John is a legendary underated human! I'd love a conversation between John Vervaeke and Daniel Schmachtenberger

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[Joshua G]

This was the best podcast I've listened to from Lex. Insane.

[klou32]

This conversation was legit like I don’t know if it’s because I am a psychologist but where was this guy when I was on university?! I entered the flow state when I never normally do through many podcasts amazing loved it!

[jacquin]

I deeply respect you John, as someone who has one of the clearest and most inspiring visions of what is fundamental to a meaningful human life. Thank you Lex, for introducing him to another audience.

[ousama]

John's channel hosts some of the most soul nourishing content I've found on KZbin. Awakening From the Meaning Crisis should be mandatory for all human beings.

[frank]

and that's facts💯💯

[Seekers of Unity]

Thank you for having on one of the kindest philosophers alive today.

[Ernesto Eduardo Dobarganes]

Prize for Best human being on the planet ?

[I Am Loving Awareness]

Hi Zevi ❤️it’s good to see you here.

[Melissa Gutshall]

He is very comforting and warm. He makes everyone he speaks to feel valued and safe.

[Richard Santanna]

This is how I discovered him. It was pretty random. I don't listen to all of Lex Friedman's podcasts, but I clicked on this one for some reason and I'm so glad I did.

[Ta11]

Hey Lex. Thanks for interviewing John. Hey John, thanks for making the Awakening From the Meaning Crisis lecture series. Love you both.

[Dali Furnell]

Thank you both, this was incredible

[Chris Davey]

2:02:00 best definition and practical analogy of mindfulness I've ever heard. On flow state, I can understand this extremely well with physical efforts, exercise, training etc but find it difficult to create on mental challenges. Love John's series.

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[Hanna LaConte]

❤ I can’t like this interview enough times❤ What a cognicent and clear conversation regarding breaking down wisdom and understanding. Truth is singular.

[Amidu Kamara]

"The universe doesn't care about your personal narrative." That motivated me to just live life to the fullest as negative that statement might be.

[Kyle J Maxwell]

John Vervaeke is truly one of the most underrated intellectual figures in culture today. I was honored to speak with John on my podcast last week, and there's no doubt in my mind that he will go down as one of the greatest minds in Western civilization.

[ousama]

Where can I watch the podcast, it's not on your channel

[ZM B]

John Vervaeke is the most capable mind i have come accross in terms of vocalizing concepts in such an efficient way. This conversation is one of my favoritiess

[Sean Donahue]

I am continually astounded at the conversations Lex Fridman has with first rate speakers! I am 58 years old and a native english speaker yet, he is more articulate in the language I was born into, than I am. I truly love the shows you have done! You are helping me to learn. I am truly grateful to live in an age where this is possible. I remember reading “Boswell’s Johnson” in college. The enjoyment to hear the discussions of great thinkers, what a time to be around in this world! Thank you!

[swayson]

Love how Lex asks questions and how the clarity of concepts and the subtle nuances emerge. Great dance.

[David Myton]

I know from professional experience over almost 50 years that interviewing is harder than it looks. Lex makes it look and sound easy but only because of the background work he puts into it, and his active intelligence that allows him to keep up and understand his guests. Masterly.

[AlkalineAnnie]

I’m always vibing with Lex in flow state 🏄‍♀️ Appreciating the emphasis & importance of storytelling and repeating patterns. Personally, I picked up on this at an earlier age and some seen it as an isolated form of schizophrenia. Needless to say, I’m glad to see it becoming more relevant in a collective reality. Even if it’s not understood to others personally, it’s being talked about.

[Invin]

This was amazing! I've been listening to Vervaeke's entire meaning crisis series and this was the perfect podcast to go with it. Vervaeke's content feels like such a treasure trove to me, similar to how Jordan Peterson's old lectures were.

[Adam Kester]

John’s work is life changing. His passion for the meaning crisis has impacted my own life and those around me. And it all started with a video and book about zombies. Thank you, JV. It’s been beautiful to share in your journey.

[Nunya Biznizz]

Hello, sorry to bother you. But what video, and what book about zombies?

[G. Abarant]

? Thank you, Lex for inviting John and asking him all the right questions.

[AW Waves]

What changed in life? What is life?

[Simo]

@AW Waves Isn't it so frustrating how with all things you say you simultaneously do and don't know what you mean?

[Out of the Abyss]

@Nunya Biznizz Zombies in Western Culture: A Twenty-First Century Crisis by John Vervaeke, Christopher Mastropietro, et al.

[brujua]

Dude, what a great conversation. You really got the optimal grip on this one Lex!

[Tori Ko]

It’s all the jujitsu

[cherylline price]

John is so clever on so many levels, his meaning crisis lectures are by far the most valuable info on KZbin

[Alex Walder]

Lex, I don't know how you've kept up the pace on releasing these podcasts, but you're a powerhouse and inspiration. Thanks for what you do.

[Zito Ysenbaert]

I was just getting into John Vervaeke's lecture series when you dropped this. A great conversation (I also liked the environment with the brown shelves and the chess board behind John Vervaeke!). His black flames realle struck me; I went back to rewatch that a few times.

[Jack TheRippa]

I am always so impressed with lex and his ability to understand to the degree that he does with the large variety of people and topics they discuss. I grasp so little of so much of all of it but find it interesting none the less. Good stuff always

[William Woke]

Bro, this man introduced me to agape where the entire culture failed to do so and for that I am grateful. It’s because of him that the work of Pageau has really clicked in my mind and John’s AFTMC series got me through a hard year. My life is better for it. The life of those around me is better for it. ✌️ ❤️ 🖖

[Grant Lenaarts]

Its an amazing outline of insights and frameworks for meaning in life. Relevance realisation.

[Ernesto Eduardo Dobarganes]

May I suggest his conversations with Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall ?!

[Shanester147]

His lecture on agape changed my life and made me a Christian. Him and Jordan Peterson made me re-look at how I view religion, mythology, and science.

[Bartisim0]

Thank you for the comment

[Strawman Fallacy]

@Shanester147 where can I find this specific lecture?

[Devon Campbell]

Can we just talk about how much funnier Lex has gotten? Maybe he was always funny but his timing on those quips is so much better and he’s just sharper overall.

[Randy McNally]

Very interesting interview. I related immediately with what was said at 24:45 when he said that we can do some very intelligent things without consciousness. I can remember when I was travelling a lot for work and sometimes would drive 3- 4 hours to get home well after midnight. And I recall being so sleepy and on three occasions I "woke up" in the breakdown lane with my signal light on and my foot softly on the brake pedal coming to a stop. I performed these functions totally without conscious awareness. It was spooky, it was scary but it nonetheless happened however inexplicably

[Alexander]

As someone who listens to hour long podcasts about religion, mysticism etc. like crack... this is one of the most beautiful and profound conversations I've ever had the pleasure of listening to. Thank you, Fridman

[Sergei Liberman]

Thank you both so much for this talk! Just got back to Tai chi after + awakening from meaning crisis!

[ptr]

One of the best interviews I’ve heard with Vervaeke- and I’ve heard a lot. Many thanks for this precious conversation Lex ❤️

[daviddeida]

Did you watch him with Bernado Kastrup ?

[J_Venchy]

Lex, the level of guests you’ve gotten on the podcast recently has been unparalleled! Thank you for your hard work and dedication to giving us the best content possible 🙏🏽

[Joshua Weiss]

Thanks for having him on ive been a fan for years following his work!

[Yogi]

This conversation is mind-blowing. So much information to digest, I might have to watch it a few times to understand everything. Fantastic guest and Lex is sharp with the questions. I'm super impressed

[Marius Schoeman]

I can say without reservation that this episode has been the most interesting engagement between two human beings I have ever had the opportunity to listen to. Thank you, John and Lex.

[Pedro Martins e Souza]

Lex, humanity thanks you for this content. These rich and important discussions and conversations needed a place to be registered through time in an understandable way. Thank you!

[Pretty Catlick]

It's about time John gets the general exposure him and his work deserves. His Meaning Crises series will be treasured.

[JaredandTasha]

You should host him and Jonathan Pageau! Always a top tier conversation

[WaterCave]

Jonathan Pageau is so great and sometimes it feels wrong to listen to him free of charge

[MVJH]

John Vervaeke Facebook and there is interview on 15 June 2022 (runtime 1:24:37).

[JaredandTasha]

@MVJH share a link ill check it out

[Gods Clown]

Yes yes yes

[Bartisim0]

Yes and a standalone conversation with Pageau would be great.

[Laz]

Took his Philosophy of Mind class when I was in university, one of the most interesting classes I've ever taken. Great podcast.

[Philosopher Scholar]

I'm only an hour in, but this is so amazing. It's also a great summary to John's Awaking to the Meaning Crisis course.

[MiranUT]

I just finished the course, so this is indeed a great review! I want to go through the course again!!

[Antonio Albagli]

This was so important. Thank you so much. So many layers. Deeply comforting in a rather inspiring and challenging way. Cognitive medicine for the middle-aged man.

[henrylovespies]

This is one I'm going to have to listen to a few times. So much wisdom shared in these 3 hours.

[Michael Marhal]

just finished listening to this one. Personally, i recommend listening to the entire thing. very good episode

[WebbiestZeus]

I'm glad John is on here his podcast is amazing.

[The Conscious Experience]

So good!

[Bruno Bronosky]

2:55:10 Sin is a failure to wrestle with tough questions. ☮️❤️🌈 I'm going to have to listen to this whole interview a few times. So many great ideas!

[Michael Tombros]

Another incredible podcast Lex. Vervaeke is awesome. This is nourishment for the soul

[melissa messenger]

Your amazing Lex there is no one like you. I am so glad you are incredibly intelligent, educated, and well read, because I work so hard as a psychiatric nurse that I have no time and space to ask the questions.

[daviddeida]

Most excellent.Johns content is wonder-full.His delivery is rapid,I played it at a slower speed and found it easier to digest.

[MiranUT]

My wish came true! Awesome interview! I just finished JV's course on Awaking for the Meaning Crisis, so this was a great recap! Lex's best interview yet!!!!

[guy]

Blown away by how much of your audience is already aware of JV in the comments. Makes me optimistic. I've been hoping for this interview, and I'm elated that it's happening so much sooner than I would have guessed

[Harald Wolte]

Jonathan Pageau next please!!

[Ginebro]

I found about JV via JP about 4 years ago, i don't know if people realize how brilliant this man is.

[GnosticVision]

B/c of the podcast "theories of everything"! Like a more hardcore version of this podcast

[Jake Vikoren]

Pure gold, as usual. Thank you Lex for your service to humanity.

[Jennifer Brantley]

I’ve been waiting for this podcast!!! So excited to see it pop up…. Gonna get me some snacks and a note book and settle in… Vervaeke is bad ass! I loved AFTMC!

[Dave Cinquemani]

What a fantastic conversation....another day my mind is blown and yet filled with new thoughts and ideas that i have no idea where they came from...Love the show Lex...keep it up, stay caring, compassionate and curious.

[Alex Bramall]

Really enjoyed this conversation, secondhand flow-state is a really interesting concept that I’ve never considered before. And now that I hear it I immediately know what you’re referring to, great insight 👌🏼

[Julien Gartside]

Absolutely awesome and valuable. I will listen to this again many times with a view to acting on what I hear. You have done society another service Lex!

[Dan Richards]

The conversation they are having is so complex it is really tough for me to follow at times. These guys are on another level. Absolutely mindblowing stuff though.

[Orwellian Horseman of the Apocalypse]

Indeed! It's good being able to re-run parts.

[Swayzy762 ☑]

My temporal horizon switched around age 18 or 19. I had been living a very dangerous, criminally-inspired life. I'll spare the disgusting details of risking myself and others wellbeing, but tripping LSD numerous times really changed my perspective on life. Made me realize that even if I wasn't feeling the pain I was causing others, that pain was still being experienced by a being like myself, no better or worse intrinsically. I quit living the destructive life I had always known from at least my "tweens". Began seeing I'm not being propelled by Life since my birth but in a downfall spiral toward Death since the moment my first cells began forming and constructing my mind and body. When you acknowledge your mortality and that of those around you whom you know or don't, you can't help but live graciously and humbly. I can't undo the harm I've caused so many, but, it's humbling that I had the awakening at all. I was quite sociopathic. Without LSD, I'm not sure I would have ever realized the harm I was causing others. Shame and guilt were not just foreign to me but entirely extraterrestrial. LSD brought me to my knees in agony and pain. It was like a decade of harm onto others finally rebounded onto me all at once for the first time ever. It was what I've learned to call "Baptism by fire". I came out of it the same person but with new emotional, relational depth I hadn't had before. I'm neither convinced there's life after death nor non-existence forever. I think existence is like a triangle. The first angle represents birth. The second angle represents death. That foundational line between them is "life". The line that goes from "your" death to the 3rd angle represents all other life and galaxies in the universe dying as the universe becomes unstable over billions/trillions of years. The line from that 3rd angle to the initial first angle represents the universe being reborn (new Big Bang) and the universe returning to disarray and life being born. That first angle again represents you coming BACK into existence for the next cycle of the universe. That's my philosophy at this point and I could go deeper but that's a pretty basic view easier to grasp, albeit not easy whether you're theistic and atheistic.

[Holon]

John Vervaeke is a great guest, there is a lot to learn from him and I love his work. But Lex's way to put questions made this podcast absolutely fantastic. I think even Vervaeke was impressed by some of the questions. Great job!

[Richard Canales]

Such passion :) I can’t wait to re listen to this interview

[Noam Azran]

Brilliant! Thank you for sharing some proper wisdom. Most relevant ideas and practices I’ve heard for these crazy times

[Holden Fees]

I have been following John's lectures and interviews for a long time, and I'm glad to see the worlds of CS and cognitive science collide on this podcast. Always a pleasure to see how inventive Lex/ (his manager maybe) are with the guests.

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[nexovec]

This is a VERY difficult conversation, quite possibly most of all of them. I've enjoyed this very much. And I will have to rewatch to reflect on my thoughts. Thanks, Lex!

[TheCoyotemonster]

Beautiful podcast, gentlemen. I wish I would have had a teacher like Professor Vervaeke...I also wish I had been a student like Lex Fridman...Truly a delight to see you two together...from the third person in the room

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[Martin Lawrence]

Wow, thanks Lex, JV is amazing, an incredibly thought provoking and enjoyable interview!

[Steve Gee]

Love the interview and have inhaled all of your podcasts over the last two years. Massive fan! I just found Stuff Made Here on YT, and immediately thought that Shane Wighton would be a perfect guest for you. You might be able to break your 5 hour record!

[HoscoFelix]

Legendary conversation, John Vervaeke is such an important voice! This is 100% the best podcast out there, you go Lex

[Cody]

I've adventured through Awakening From The Meaning Crisis 2 times in the last 3 years and lurked in his sanghas during the pandemic. John has had a great impact on my life and it's great to Lex allowing him to spread his knowledge.

[purplegelato]

love it bro

[evanevanevan]

Does he host meditation sanghas online? Where can I find them? Thanks!

[Tony Wu]

This is so cool. I took Verveake’s intro to cognitive science class in 2001. It was my favorite class!

[SETH WARREN]

This is my new favorite. It just got better and better up to the end. Amazing conversation.

[John Doe]

i sincerely appreciate you and what you do, lex! i find many of your interviews immensely valuable!

[Joan Plastino]

My favorite part was when Lex challenges by saying implying love as meaning is "technically bullshit." "It could be that romantic bullshit is the essence of life and the source of its"deepest meaning."

[Marco Reali]

This was truly both inspiring and mindblowing. John Vervaeke is a truly exceptional human being.

[Josh Doidge]

Had Vervaeke as a prof in person for many PSYCH courses. He is the man! Cannot recommend him enough.

[Penny Nas]

Kool story bruh

[Jamo Bamo]

First time for me, a lot to sort through , but it has been a eye opener 🇫🇷

[Wait_wut?]

I am comforted by how John Vervaeke speaks despite the profundity of the subjects he provides perspectives on which can be overwhelming. His focus seems to be on seeing the relationships between things as comprising an integrated whole and not just the things themselves. Well done Lex, in being an excellent interlocutor to this tremendous thinker!

[Ma Ja]

This was a great conversation. I usually don't check out episodes of people I don't know, but really glad I did.

[Dialogos]

Vervaeke is so underrated. He’s up there with Peterson and McGilchrist

[Sebastian Sastre]

Fantastic job Lex!!!!! You did a great job at developing dia logos here. Thank you thank you thank you. I got a lot of insights out of hearing John here.

[hatim lechgar]

Thank you @lexfridman from Morocco, your guest in this episode (even more than others) is a gem you unearthed for several seekers

[Sadek Rashed]

Hats off to Lex for interviewing one of the most erudite and eclectic thinkers/philosophers of our time! I've learned a lot from John's work and his emphasis on movement and contemplative practices is truly transformative!

[Mitchell Messer]

Lex did a good job. I was waiting for this. I needed an overview of the meaning crisis to give it direction

[Stephen Evans - 2Paradox]

What an outstanding guest and podcast. Thank you so much! ☀️

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[Sarah Brown]

I feel more grateful than can be depicted for interviews such as these. Granting me with not only helpful, but necessary introspection. Untangling this mess of mind.