Luis Tiant Needs To Be In The Hall of Fame

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@AdrienneMonestere
@AdrienneMonestere Ай бұрын
RIP Luis! Him and that 1975 team introduced baseball to me as a little kid. Amazing character and personality, not to mention his pitching. He belongs in the Hall.
@wesleythetrombonist
@wesleythetrombonist 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Actually thought he was in the hall and was shocked to find out he wasn’t
@walkoffstudios
@walkoffstudios 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@markhousman8447
@markhousman8447 11 ай бұрын
Anyone who saw him play knows he was a great pitcher - not just a thrower. He was a pure joy to watch on the mound.
@karlschneider9479
@karlschneider9479 Ай бұрын
I grew up in Cambridge, Ma and I saw Tiant pitch. He was a clutch pitcher. If I had only 1 game to win I'd want El Tiante pitching in that game!
@longlakeshore
@longlakeshore 11 ай бұрын
The HOF needs to be taken away from sportswriters. This isn't their only fuckup.
@johnturner7952
@johnturner7952 Ай бұрын
Rest in Peace Luis Tiant
@signsofthepastime
@signsofthepastime 11 ай бұрын
El Tiante!! The writers dropped the ball, hopefully the veterans committee does the right thing and finally gets him in. Great video!
@ticnatz
@ticnatz 11 ай бұрын
#1 on my long list of players not yet enshrined and should be (Dave Parker, Tommy John, Vada Pinson, and quite a few others).....
@walkoffstudios
@walkoffstudios 11 ай бұрын
There's a video coming out this month on one of those players.
@rafaelramirez1507
@rafaelramirez1507 Ай бұрын
Dwight Evans, Darrell Evans, Dale Murphy
@willtruitt905
@willtruitt905 11 ай бұрын
I had never even heard of him but I am now a supporter of his hall of fame campaign
@eduardollauro9175
@eduardollauro9175 4 ай бұрын
so it means you are not a baseball fan
@thejackel1844
@thejackel1844 11 ай бұрын
" No matter where you sit in the stands, Luis will look you in the eye at least once" !... Quote by Joe Garagiola...
@robbiearroyo2292
@robbiearroyo2292 11 ай бұрын
The commentary in that series is so wonderful! I was watching game by game a few months ago and the broadcasts are so enjoyable - also the behind-home-plate camera angles look great.
@forgerelli1
@forgerelli1 11 ай бұрын
I was being born literally as he was winning that World Series at the end of your video.
@usaveteran-retired6464
@usaveteran-retired6464 Ай бұрын
Tiant DEFINITELY deserves being inducted in the Baseball HOF. That said, you might want to check your facts, unless you're referring to Carlton Fisk's old joke on how the Red Sox "Won the Series, Three Games to Four" over the Cincinnati Reds." My Big Red Machine WON the 1975 World Series in seven games, not El Tiante's BoSox. I enjoyed the whole series on NBC-TV, too -- My 12th Birthday was on 07 October -- Just 4 days before Game 1 of this great World Series! I lived in a little town called Blanchester back then -- Just an hour from Cincinnati, where I was born! 😎
@forgerelli1
@forgerelli1 Ай бұрын
@@usaveteran-retired6464 It was game 1, which Tiant did win.
@usaveteran-retired6464
@usaveteran-retired6464 Ай бұрын
@@forgerelli1 Then, Tiant Won Games 1 & 4 of the World Series, but NOT the Whole Series. Tiant was on his way to losing Game 6 of the '75 WS, too, BUT Bernie Carbo's HR in the bottom of the 8th inning relieved him of that burden, Agreed? 😎
@ebw_servant_of_GOD
@ebw_servant_of_GOD Ай бұрын
Luis Luis Luis....WOW.... was what you said when you watched him pitch. I loved his hesitation pitch, it required so much skill. He was the "BEST". I may be a Padres Fan, when you watch greatness you have to tip your hat and Luis Tiant was that and will always be.... RIP BROTHER EBW USN Ret SERVANT OF GOD
@McDago100
@McDago100 Ай бұрын
RIP Luis Tiant! I am an Athletics fan, but I always held you in high regard.
@johnnyallen5736
@johnnyallen5736 6 ай бұрын
I loved watching him pitch. Can't believe his shutout totals--put him in the Hall!!!
@karlschneider9479
@karlschneider9479 Ай бұрын
He was a clutch big game pitcher!
@robertriquier2046
@robertriquier2046 7 ай бұрын
He was a darn good pitcher!
@bobbcarpenter7031
@bobbcarpenter7031 11 ай бұрын
Tiant, Evans, Clemens...all deserve to be in the HoF.
@DavidDykes-dm9lc
@DavidDykes-dm9lc 4 ай бұрын
I know you mean Dewey Evans, but don't forget Darrell Evans ❤
@dramatyst5661
@dramatyst5661 11 ай бұрын
Dude should have been in. They will put him in when he passes away sadly. Such bullshit
@spryfolII
@spryfolII 11 ай бұрын
Goes to show once again, the sportswriters need to be off the HoF voting. They just have too many issues with players to justify their participation. Tiant was one of the best of his era, and that cannot be debated.
@robertperrotto870
@robertperrotto870 11 ай бұрын
It absolutely can be debated. When did he lead the AL in strikeouts? In ERA? In wins? How many Cy Young awards? How many postseason appearances? How many Championship rings? Was he consistent, yes, but consistency does not make a player HoF material. 19 seasons, less then 250 wins, lifetime ERA over 3, and less then 3k strikeouts. That is not an oversight, Tiant just doesn't deserve to be there.
@phild8095
@phild8095 9 ай бұрын
@@robertperrotto870 Other players with WAR of less than 66 are in the HOF.
@robertperrotto870
@robertperrotto870 8 ай бұрын
@@phild8095 WAR is quite possibly the most useless statistic when it comes to pitching. I do not deny that Tiant was an above average pitcher, but in no way is he a HOF caliber pitcher. by that Logic Jerry Koosman and Ron Darling should be in the HoF. What did Tiant do that compares to Jim Palmer, Vida Blue, STeve Carlton, Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver, Bob Gibson, Ron Guidry to name his contemporaries. He holds no records, has a losing post season record, less then 300 wins, never led the league in strikeouts , and he played on a very stacked Boston, and then Yankee team.
@Robert-qm5so
@Robert-qm5so Ай бұрын
​@@robertperrotto870that's your opinion and a poor one at that.
@robertperrotto870
@robertperrotto870 Ай бұрын
@@Robert-qm5so the fact remains that he is not in - you can believe my opinion is poor, but it is the opinion of hundreds of baseball writers. Less than 300 wins, less than 3k strikeouts. The ONLY pitcher that should be in that is not is JR Richard, who was a dominate Pitcher who's career was cut short by a stroke.
@robwasilewski9273
@robwasilewski9273 11 ай бұрын
He needs to be in the hall
@goatuscrow4135
@goatuscrow4135 4 ай бұрын
El Tiante!
@stephenrush1590
@stephenrush1590 Ай бұрын
One of the all-time best.
@michaelares4240
@michaelares4240 5 ай бұрын
Definitely
@Northeastken
@Northeastken 6 күн бұрын
Hope he will make it into the Hall of fame this year, Its long overdue. He was the most unique pitcher out there. It's a shame he wasn't inducted before he passed. It's never too late let's get him in there.
@walkoffstudios
@walkoffstudios 6 күн бұрын
All the more reason to get Tommy John and Dave Parker in this year
@yomammy13
@yomammy13 6 ай бұрын
If bert blyeven is in he should be in.
@rafaelramirez1507
@rafaelramirez1507 Ай бұрын
Over 2,400 k's, over 185 complete games, over 45 shut-outs and four 20 game win seasons ...😮 definitely belongs in the HOF ✨
@Robert-qm5so
@Robert-qm5so Ай бұрын
187 career complete games plus 49 shutouts, more than 2,400 k's , four 20 game win seasons .... Why isn't Tiant in the HOF !?
@docadams7099
@docadams7099 Ай бұрын
absolutely tiant should be in the hof.
@josephmaloney3140
@josephmaloney3140 Ай бұрын
Let's face the facts, it's nothing short of disgraceful that Tiant was not enshrined in his lifetime. His numbers alone make the case let alone his unique pitching style which made him a fan favorite throughout the league. I rooted for the Yankees but I admit I loved watching this guy pitch. With all due respect to Mariano Rivera, how does he get elected unanimously to the Hall of Fame with 1,283 innings, how does Billy Wagner with 903 innings pitched get 73.8% of the vote while Tiant with 3,486 innings pitched get dismissed without a second thought.
@Mark-nl1co
@Mark-nl1co 11 ай бұрын
Actually the bench mark was 300 wins.
@JerryFerko
@JerryFerko Ай бұрын
GREAT STUFF !!!
@forgerelli1
@forgerelli1 11 ай бұрын
YES!
@Reek151
@Reek151 11 ай бұрын
Why isn’t he in?
@robertperrotto870
@robertperrotto870 11 ай бұрын
Sorry but no, Tiant did not reach 300 wins, never led the league in strikeouts, 20 win seasons, nor championships, Has a 1-2 record in the 3 postseason games he pitched. Not good numbers for the 19 seasons he played. There were a ton of pitchers better than he was during the time he played. Vida Blue, Seaver, Ryan, Carlton, Guidry, Gibson, Neikro brothers to name a few. He was, at his best, the #2 pitcher in Bostons rotation, and that was after he lost his fastball.
@Paulcitomusic
@Paulcitomusic 10 ай бұрын
El Tiante was definitely Boston's number 1 guy. Spaceman Bill Lee was good but was never considered the ace. El Tiante was the man. The two were about the same in effectiveness in the World Series year with Lee having a better win percentage - maybe that is what you are referring to.
@robertperrotto870
@robertperrotto870 10 ай бұрын
@@Paulcitomusic Lee was definitely #1 in the rotation. Regardless of this disagreement, Tiant does not have the numbers to support being in the HoF, nor does he hold any significant records. Was he a good pitcher, absolutely. Is "good" enough to warrant being among the greatest Pitchers ever, absolutely not.
@Paulcitomusic
@Paulcitomusic 10 ай бұрын
@@robertperrotto870 Lee only had 3 excellent years as a starter, and he never had 20 wins. Tiant contributed more to the Red Sox. I can see that Tiant is not close to the top 50 all time where he should have been a shoo-in, and he was rather far from the super ace Pedro Martinez or Walter Johnson level. You look at his boldface on Baseball Reference - there isn't very much. His great 1968 should be considered a boost, leading the league in low ERA. If Tiant had had 2 or 3 more big seasons and maybe 280 wins or so, his case would be much stronger. He played until he was 41, gave it all he had - a 229 win pitcher in the end, won 57% of his starts.
@robertperrotto870
@robertperrotto870 10 ай бұрын
@@Paulcitomusic But he didn't have those seasons, especially compared to his contemporaries. HoF is based upon those seasons, stats, records. How does he stack up to Jim Palmer, Steve Carlton, Vida Blue, Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver, Bob Gibson? No Cy Young awards, four 20 win seasons, No Strikeout king, 1 ERA title. sub .500 postseason record, no league records. Was he valuable to Boston, yes, the same way Jerry Koosman, Ron Darling, Noah Syndegard was to the Mets. An above average #2 starter.
@Paulcitomusic
@Paulcitomusic 10 ай бұрын
@@robertperrotto870 We actually mostly agree. He was half a notch below the guys you listed, during most of his career - looking at all of their best years. I'd give him a bit of a cut above merely "above average #2 starter" during his best years. But he was a big game pitcher. For his 3 solid years with Lee, I'd say they were both on a par with the other guy. Those two strong pitchers got them to a World Series (with the help of two hot rookies, Lynn and Rice). And I'd also agree with you that this video overrates him at least a little bit.
@earlkiefer515
@earlkiefer515 10 ай бұрын
Liked him back in the day
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