Luka is in DANGER, now that he knows the identities! Miraculous Ladybug Wishmaker Theory/Analysis

[@skqouil]

I want to see Cat Noir doing something dangerous and Viperion shouting Adrien, then remembering he cant do that and use second chance. That would be hilarius.

[@laneylee56]

That would be funny! In retrospect I don’t think they would give the extra screen time to do that, but then again they definitely need comedy relief! Did you see mr cucumber and crocodile jagged!? The writers somehow portrayed them in a way I found absolutely hilarious 😂

[@naycr17]

HAHAHAHA and then Marinette and Luka be like: Marinette: A-adrien?! Luka: Sorry Marinette. And Lukas mind be like: dude you really screw it up.

[@sushi7679]

@@naycr17 dont forget the second chance

[@J-edit]

AHA that would be so funny 😂

[@jayshelguevarra7728]

Same

[@sarahmc6855]

Luka is probably the best character to know their identities. As far as we know, neither Luka, Alya, Adrien or Marinette have Lucky Charms. I think the writers are fueling the sentimonster theory hard. They're gonna make us wonder about it all the way until the end. Emilie is defs the bad guy here... in The Collector, Gabriel tells Mari his wife gave him the (Grimoir) when they went on a trip overseas and Adrien actually had a great sympathy for his father at the start as if his neglectful actions through his grief were not normal behavior for him. Gabriel also is the one to give into his pleas for freedom, a thing he couldn't do when mom was around.

[@joandy7138]

Its Impossible for Adrien to be a Sentimonster you can Only make 1 sentimonster at a time

[@silverbowftw5225]

I just wish Luka could comfort Adrien

[@Cross_Oreo]

@@joandy7138 no thats not true

[@melaniemartinezfan5310]

What if they purposely gets akumitized and ladybug uses the go back in time or second chance miraculous and once the battle is over she gives the a charm

[@Cross_Oreo]

@@melaniemartinezfan5310 its actually a god theory

[@riyadheksha2972]

This is an episode where Adrian have a good amount of screen time after a long time.....

[@shreyamahawar7023]

I mean he is in danger, but bunnyx didn't show up, that means nothing THAT serious happened in the future. Just my opinion, you could be right.

[@zerofudou5689]

I think Bunnix only shows up when things that aren't meant to happen goes on that could drastically change her future threatening her existence. Maybe Luka knowing their identities and potentially getting akumatized is meant to happen and won't change her future.

[@animationsage]

@@zerofudou5689 I completely agree with this. She only shows up when villains or things happen that threaten her existence. Like in Time Tagger and Catblanc

[@vermiciosknid9629]

Bunnix probably has to sort through all possible futures and determine if it's serious enough before she can intervene and she has to make sure her being there doesn't have any side affects on the future. That's what I think.

[@_Pix_]

That’s true! Can mean that this was supposed to happen

[@vermiciosknid9629]

@@_Pix_ maybe,maybe not. After all in Cat Blanc Marinette wrote her name on Adrien's gift but in Bunnix's future she didn't.

[@saamiyaahmed8888]

Luka knows how to keep a secret but i feel like Luka could get akumatised again because of not having a magical charm so I'm worried too

[@tommie42]

I mean, now that Luka knows the truth, what will he be akumatized about? The times he was akumatized was because of Marinette. What else could threaten his re-akumatization? Maybe his parents? Or a new love?

[@bluebellmoon6885]

It's same just like alya but i think luka can control his anger but for alya i think she's easier to get Disturbed

[@bluebellmoon6885]

@Nitzan Shubecause if they suffer the movie can continue and it can be interesting but if hawkmoth know their identity it's GAME OVER the movie will end

[@bluebellmoon6885]

@Nitzan Shu but their family is already happy Luka already know the truth Juleka can finally speak for herself And their parents are all good

[@bluebellmoon6885]

@Nitzan Shu yea

[@the_detective_007]

I don't feel strange by knowing that Adrien wanted what his parents wanted to be. Because many kids in their childhood think the same. And I was one of them. In my childhood, I just wanted to do what my parents wanted me to do. But that doesn't mean I'm a sentimonster, right? 😂

[@saltedwounds]

Same, that’s why I didn’t question it, though it COULD be that he MIGHT be a sentimonster.

[@dreamystone]

I'm nearing 30 and I still don't know what I want to be. Never really had any concrete childhood dream, but I also have become enthralled with a million different things, including both career options and hobbies my entire life. Idk, I feel like Adrien and Marinette were the embodiment of the two extremes of ADHD in the wishmaker. I don't know if that was intentional, but I did have a chuckle to myself when I noticed.

[@JaeyunYD05]

And also in families such as Adrien's, where the picture of an ideal son has always been pressed on him, it feels as though children like him never got the opportunity to want anything other than what their parents wanted

[@PrdJane]

@@dreamystone Exactly!

[@miraculousumbreon8709]

So what do u wanna be?

[@elelizabeth8870]

IT'S VERY WEIRD TO THINK ABOUT THAT LUKA KNOWS THEIR IDENTITIES! and it's scary too.. Its really dangerous for him because if someone finds out that he knows it will be a big disaster he have to be careful but very very careful ✨

[@chasingadrienn5015]

True

[@melaniemartinezfan5310]

What if they purposely gets akumitized and ladybug uses the go back in time or second chance miraculous and once the battle is over she gives the a charm

[@kahlian]

BAH TWINSIE #welovefairymarinette 🥺🙏✨🥰

[@elelizabeth8870]

@@kahlian YUUUUPPP WE ARE ❤️

[@AutumnTheBlossomTeentte2K8]

Luka is my favorite character and I hope he does not get akumatized again

[@animeismylife3220]

His mind is blank because he never thought about what he wants, only his father to make him happy, and also his mind could be blank because he is suppressing his memories due to his horrible last from the death of his mother. This is my take anyway.

[@legg7132]

Don't forget that the Wishmaker can reveal the suppressed memories.

[@evie12111]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HAVE A THEORY THATS MAKING ME SHEIGFCIGFHE YOU KNOW THE "SOLITUDE" PATTERN THROUGHOUT THE EPISODES, RIGHT?!* MAYBE IT COULD BE REFERRING TO THE FACT ADRIEN FEELS SEPARATED FROM EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE HE IS A SENTIMONSTER ( im so sorry for reposting this so many times, IM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS THEORY THAT I MADE THO!

[@anacarolsguima8872]

I don't think Adrien is a sentimonster I think he has depression, the suppressed memories, denial of feelings( he's almost afraid of liking Marinette), he always tries to look happier both as Adrien and as Chat Noir, his superhero life being his escape of reality, Luka in wishmaker telling his inner music sound like someone is playing a sad piano but his real song is a happy song( that's how depression feels, like your true self is "suppressed" by bad feelings)... This boy needs therapy, he lost his mom, his life was controlled since he was a baby, was homeschooled, the only friend he had before was Chloe, he has to do photoshoots with Lie-la who is always invading his personal space and we all know sack of potatoes would make a better father than Gabriel Agreste

[@pankajmalvankar6163]

Na

[@shinkoxmh9113]

I agree with you.. the sentimonster theory is stupid imo.. Feeling confused is usuall for teens

[@Zz15861]

And here we though Rocketear was INTENSE! I i don't know what to do anymore because these episodes are really getting me excited!

[@DEEET]

I think every episode after episode turns more intense, and I’m excited!!

[@Zz15861]

@@DEEET ME TOO!

[@LadyOMyth]

Honestly, I don't know if his father would make him continue modelling into his adult life. Would it possibly make sense for Gabriel to want Adrien to follow in his footsteps in terms of the Agreste brand so he can continue it even after he passes? I mean, why else would Lila become the new face of the brand, what Adrien was previously, if Gabriel didn't have plans to have Adrien do something else? I've been thinking about what Adrien would do though and I realize that a lot of the holders are looking at careers close to their roles as a Miraculous holder. Alya being a reporter, reporters tend to be sly and sneaky and even go undercover as she is now. Marinette mentioned in this same episode that what she's looking at in terms of career has to do with creation. Is it possible that we could look at Adrien's Miraculous and guess what he'll choose for a career? Even if it isn't related to destruction, maybe something about it could be part of a stereotype for a job, like with Alya's. EDIT: Also, about him remembering something as a baby, that might not be an actual memory that he remembers but just a message from his subconscious. That's where the memory had to be pulled from since Adrien had no recollection of what he wanted to be as a child. The image of him in the crib could've just been a symbol of some kind. I mean, it's him as a baby reaching up to his parents, who are looking down on him with loving eyes. It could mean quite a few things, looking at it from an artist's point of view.

[@povurme2222]

:0... thats a smart theory

[@salmanez9645]

Smart theory🤯👌🏻

[@StillSaber]

The only time I want to see Lie-la's face anywhere is on a 'Wanted Poster' for America's Most Wanted or Paris's Most Wanted.

[@LadyOMyth]

@@StillSaber Honestly, same. XD

[@StillSaber]

@@LadyOMyth Or maybe the behind the bars moteef

[@cacaumassipanoficial6203]

Alya and Luka know a lot, and they don't have a protective talisman yet 😰

[@stanaellee]

True

[@user-jf9nu7gx4s]

I thought alya has a talisman already?

[@cacaumassipanoficial6203]

@@user-jf9nu7gx4s No, when she was akumatized Ladybug still didn't know how to create the talismans, she would have to be akumatized again to receive one.

[@linaazmiin7479]

mmaybe he is half

[@anonymousfox5005]

Not to burst anyone's bubble, but Alya only got akumatized because of Marionette, and since she already rejected the akumatization once, she can reject Shadowmoth's control again. As for Luka, that can still be very possible.

[@GeorgieGamez]

To add to the eye colour theory: when Chat noir was akumatized into Chat Blank, his eyes went from green to blue

[@reese4597]

thomas admitted that it was only a mistake in the animation ! :>

[@gracemvula9705]

Idk but maybe Gabriel isn’t his real father,he could have been adopted or something but I’m sure his mother is his real mother

[@xelfercozy5838]

@@gracemvula9705 the comment above you says that it was just a mistake

[@kai8988]

I don't think he's a sentimonster tho cause if he was Gabriel would've been have his miraculous a long time ago

[@Veritgo_8]

I noticed that the people who know Ladybugs identity are permanent miraculous holders Bunix is the permanent holder of the bunny Miraculous and Alya is the permanent holder of the fox Miraculous and could Luka be one of them if he tells her he knows her identity? Maybe maybe not

[@shikhabaranwal3346]

Who else feels Lb and Cn should be paid millions for such glorious deeds

[@HoldmyApplejuice]

where do they keep the money thou

[@YinKeket]

Luka lied for the 1st time on what we saw. I wonder if he would understand why she disappeared so much. Bless Luka for being amazing. Amazing he plays the violin and makes interment. Good catch on the two different eye colors of Adrien's parents. That is sad that Adrien doesn't have a dream or something for himself and not for his dad. I do wonder what his dream is.

[@povurme2222]

I wonder if Kagami will ever come back and talk to Adrien again or if she'll have an impact on the rest of the plot

[@laneylee56]

I hope so!

[@MrZakiaashraf]

I really hope that happens! Kagami is someone Adrien can really relate to!

[@mrsfahrenheit]

Same as everyone else I hope so bad she’s going to be back!

[@cameliaroy9937]

luka is the kind of guy every girl wants in their life

[@sanzianagoglinache8696]

I agree

[@Yuma_89]

Some guys are into him too 👀

[@sanzianagoglinache8696]

What do you mean

[@cameliaroy9937]

@@sanzianagoglinache8696 i think yuma kuga meant that luka is so gentle and caring even guys can want a partner like him.

[@sanzianagoglinache8696]

You are so right . Luka is perfect and I love him so much .Don't jude me

[@kaumii]

After the second time Luka reround time (after we learned about Adrien's dream) did anyone notice that before Adrien was going to get hit he looked like he was sad or he had given up?! OR IS IT JUST ME!?!?

[@emiliaallen8308]

Yeah it looked like he wanted to get hit so he could know what he wants to be

[@shinkoxmh9113]

Yeah

[@candda9434]

it was like he wanted to know what his childhood dream was, but he also thought about what ladybug said; it’s dangerous because their identities would be revealed :/

[@mrsfahrenheit]

I think the eye color swap (If not an animation error) hints at that Adrien remembers his parents differently to what they actually are/ were. He always remembers his mother as a literal saint and feels conflicted about his father because he’s so cold and controlling. But that probably wasn’t always the case before Emilie‘s disappearance. We know for a fact (episode : The Collector) that Emilie really had a big temper and apparently controlling nature because when Adrien as Cat Noir put his father into his place and was like „(..) so do what I tell you to!“ Gabriel said he reminded him of someone aka Emilie, as we learned by him looking at her picture. That would also make sense with Adrien himself saying multiple times during Wishmaker that he doesn’t remember certain things about his childhood, for example his dreams, and that his mind is literally „empty“. That could mean that his mind is unconsciously suppressing certain memories on purpose to protect his psychic health and that could lead to him remembering only the good about Emilie since maybe he couldn’t take the reality of her being „the evil one“ and not his father because he really just wants to believe there’s someone who was always honest with him and loved him for who he really was and would give him all the freedom he needs etc That’s my theory

[@_konstantaki_]

This is one of the TOP episodes of all the seasons and the best episode of the season (till now)

[@kys3686]

Well, Ezra actually posted a TikTok about saying that Adrien isn’t a sentimonster. I kinda believe it, &, I kind of don’t. Tell me what you think!

[@fatma-idek-bro]

He only knows as much as us so right now he doesn’t know I that he is/isn’t

[@rainb0ws35]

@@fatma-idek-bro True..Thomas also said that

[@user-jf9nu7gx4s]

I agree. It seems way to complex to be on a children's show. But it certainly is fun to think about.

[@KEIR0N]

@@user-jf9nu7gx4s if he was a senti monster gabriel wouldnt be surprised when adrien was revealed as cat noir he wants the miraculous so bad and adrien is earing if he controlled adrien he would know adrien was cat noir

[@KEIR0N]

if he was a senti monster gabriel wouldnt be surprised when adrien was revealed as cat noir he wants the miraculous so bad and adrien is earing if he controlled adrien he would know adrien was cat noir

[@cacaumassipanoficial6203]

If Wishmaker had a sentimonster it would all be over in this episode 😌

[@stefaniarusso]

Yeah I agree 👍👌💯

[@pas178]

I’m kind of sad he didn’t 😂

[@happyking2895]

How?

[@cacaumassipanoficial6203]

@@happyking2895 He was very powerful, a sentimonster would make him even more powerful, even though the day is always saved it's interesting to think about it.

[@happyking2895]

@@cacaumassipanoficial6203 Would the Sentimonster make him to remember or what is it about the Sentimonster that will make him more powerful than he was? 🤔🤨

[@thecartoonreviewer498]

SAME , WISHMAKER was the BEST episode of miraculous season 4

[@trash2273]

I saw ppl saying that in the finale marinette will tell adrien she loves him and honestly I think it will happen. BUT we already know that the reveal will happen near the end of season 5. So what if adrien rejects her and tells her he just wants to be friends and that allows marinette to move on. Which also leads to the love square switch. So marinette will start to realize her feelings for chat noir and same thing for adrien to marinette. Which will take us to season 5 where we will focus more on the love square switch and finally the reveal. Feel free to use my theory lol.

[@alymeen4456]

That actually makes sense and honestly, I want that to happen

[@mariama1735]

im sorry but i have no patience 😭. I really hope that by the end of this season the reveal happens and that they discover their identities whilst in their alter egos bc i personally think ladynoir has more chemistry than adrienette

[@trash2273]

@@mariama1735 agreed that ladynoir has insane chemistry but the reveal was already confirmed to be in season 5 so we’re not getting that in season 4 unfortunately :( hopefully time goes by fast tho and we get the season fast!

[@mariama1735]

@@trash2273 i did not know the reveal was set to happen in season 5! oh well, i still hope something big happens by the end of this season instead of the christmas special they gave us in the last 2

[@trash2273]

@@mariama1735 yess!!

[@Snowfall4]

My theory about the eye color switch is that Emilie was the protective, and had blue eyes. And now Gabriel has blue eyes because he has to protect Adrien. Edit: Thank You for all the likes, its the most I've ever gotten on a comment

[@mikio8595]

Hm that makes sense

[@TaliaShire098]

I'm pretty sure the green eyes represents what his father wants for him whenever he's chat noir. Or what his father used to be.

[@ahmadsayed1715]

I think Adrian is not a sentimonster because will if Gabriel has the object that has the amok why wouldn't his father noticed that Adrian is Catnoir I don't know for sure but I don't want to think that Adrian is a sentimonster

[@cecycarter2697]

Same

[@Advikavwgmail.com23]

And also when gabriel found out that adrien was catnpir in wishmaker

[@leonardotiger5448]

How would he notice ?

[@KEIR0N]

if he was a senti monster gabriel wouldnt be surprised when adrien was revealed as cat noir he wants the miraculous so bad and adrien is earing if he controlled adrien he would know adrien was cat noir

[@juririhalien]

yeah and in chat blanc ep when gabe found out that adrien was chat noir he could've controlled him if he was a senti monster but he akumatized him instead so i dont think adrien is a senti monster

[@shrekswife2432]

I think Alya will find out chat noirs identity! Remember in that teaser trailer with the notebook and on one page it was a picture of half ladybug and half marinette with Alex, Luka Alya beside it? Well we know Alex knows both identities and now luka does too so since Alya is there as well I think that means she will find out his identity so all 3 of them know both ladybug and chat noirs identity! I’m actually pretty confident that this will happen since we predicted from a that page that Luka would find out her identity and now he knows both!

[@chasingadrienn5015]

True

[@lalamafuyu7990]

Wait what

[@chasingadrienn5015]

@@lalamafuyu7990 yep

[@erin.456]

What teaser trailer was this

[@chasingadrienn5015]

@@erin.456 there was no trailer

[@bluepanther5390]

I don’t know what will happen to me if they leave the Season 4 finale on a cliffhanger and I have to wait for a year for Season 5😭

[@VALERRU]

FR

[@misspotato8012]

Adrien can definitely be a sentimonster. Why? Felix and adrien lookin so damn like eachother even tho only their mom are twins. Felix's hatred towards adrien. Felix's constant attempt to get the ring (i feel like that ring is the thing that's controlling him) Gabriel being so anxious when he realises that the ring is stolen. Gabriel randomly stealing emilie's ring. Gabriel being way too overprotective towards adrien Adrien being a father's puppet. The whole wishmaker episode. The way tomoe never stopped kagami from being frnds with only adrien (i feel like she knows something) Also, i feel like adrien was made to be perfect but adrien after way too long time was becoming a different person he was acting like a normal human (maybe he was getting his free will slowly?) And that Affected emilie's health since she couldn't control him anymore maybe she broke the amok into two pieces (both the rings) and gave one to gabriel, but still got worser and eventually choked on some weed and fuckin died (sort of). Also i wanna point something else too, gabriel always sending adrien to attend different classes and trying to make him a perfect boi ik some of yall think that he did bcz of his own selfish desires of making him perfect but nah uh this could be his way of hiding how he's so perfect in everything. Or maybe he's trying to get the previous perfect adrien back, makes sense why he doesn't let him have frnds since they can make him feel like a normal person again. Also we all know that he kind of does care bout him right? So why did he threw him off in chat blanc? Well because he's a sentimonster once he brings emilie back he can built another one so even if adrien dies it won't really affect him. And now the questions come why did felix hate him? Why did emilie made a sentimonster similar to her sister's son and made him her own. Welp- i feel like she's jealous of her sista having a child and her not having one. Makes sense why felix hated him. Maybe he knows how adrien was created

[@fatma-idek-bro]

Hawkieboy doesn’t know anymore since the only person that retains the knowledge from a second chance is Luka (the holder of the snake miraculous) and maybe Sass

[@xxxhero7275]

Sass could snitch

[@artsyrenjuns4710]

@@xxxhero7275 sass is not the type to snitch

[@xxxhero7275]

@@fluffycorn_njst he doesn’t need to tell the identity, he just has to say his holder knows

[@kittykunoichi9798]

Lol Hawkieboy

[@rainb0ws35]

Did u guys notice that Ladybug's earring doesn't flash? I think it has to do something with her new outfit update.

[@darksun.et.al.99]

Actually, that's probably right because older heroes like bunnyx don't have time limits, and ladybug discovered her true potential in a way

[@Cats_Bread]

I didnt 100% against the ideal that Adrien could be the sentimonster, but I don't think the line of "my mind is empty"is a very convincing backup reason for that, cause it could happen on any children that not sure wht at they going to do in the future especially someone like Adrien that their life has been arranged by their parents from young age and never had a normal family life and social life, also he lost his mother since he was a kid,he desires the life that normal kids took granted, we cant very judged him with normal standards that only applies for normal childhood life of normal kids

[@ellarose1122]

I agree 100%

[@cacaumassipanoficial6203]

I don't know why, but when i saw that picture of Adrien with his mom at the end of the episode I felt a little scared, the way she looks at him instead of looking at the camera is kind of weird for me...

[@pas178]

I seriously don’t want to believe Adrien is a sentimonster but it’s getting harder not to believe. After watching this episode I’m hoping Emile’s twin has blue eyes so it would be a switched at birth story for Adrien. I could see it going down that Emile can’t have kids and begged her twin sister for her one of her newborn twins and when her sister refused to split the twins up. Emile created a sentimonster to switch out Adrien to take for herself. Later making the sentimonster baby look like he died to cover her crime. Which would explain why the eyes are switched in Adrien’s flash back? But then again I’m just grasping at straws desperately hoping Adrien isn’t a sentimonster. (Mostly because if he is it would be mess with the “they were made for each other” trope lol it would be more like he was made for her and no one is made for him😢)

[@povurme2222]

WHA- Wait you're right... i dont think it looked like that before-

[@cacaumassipanoficial6203]

@Zion Young the person who made the illustrations made mistakes, changing the eye color was one of them so we can't be sure about anything

[@JediLadyMisty]

@@pas178 it’s possible that Emilie faked a pregnancy, had her twin visit her once she gave birth and was up to traveling, got her twin to leave her alone with Felix, created a Sentimonster identical to Felix and did one of two things: one switch baby Felix with the baby Sentimonster out of some sort of spite/jealousy/didn’t want to be tempted to get rid of the Sentibaby once things got hard or two she kept the Sentimonster she created then once her sister left fake that she gave birth at home.

[@pas178]

@@JediLadyMisty I can totally see that happening especially since her family is supposed to be well known thanks to the legend of the family twin rings.

[@nobody-jt7mn]

Can we appreciate how much she does To upload for us and update us! Likeee thx queen 😝

[@aydenpage1576]

I think the fact the fact that they switched eye colors is hinting to the how made up Adrien’s memories are. Adrien can remember from when he was a baby, which isn’t normal. But his memory from then was incorrect as well as limited. I think this hints that his memories were made up by someone else who was trying to force him with a memory, but one that fades and has incorrect information like regular memories.

[@aydenpage1576]

@sugar booo as in the sentimonster theory; where they physically created a son.

[@KEIR0N]

@sugar booo if he was a senti monster gabriel wouldnt be surprised when adrien was revealed as cat noir he wants the miraculous so bad and adrien is earing if he controlled adrien he would know adrien was cat noir

[@evie12111]

these senti monster theories are bad for my brain, i've been going round in circles thinking about them for what seems like decades

[@aydenpage1576]

@@KEIR0N actually he would still be surprised because in the sentimonster theory emillie’s the one who creates Adrien. And I don’t believe they use the miraculous to control him just to sculpt into the child they want. Also Gabriel might not have known where Emilie put the feather if she was controlling him. But I do think you made a valid point.

[@zzenstres7111]

If you don’t want any confirmed info, don’t read this: Adrian isn’t a sentimonster Someone asked if Emilie is going to wake up and in the response it was never denied Shadowmoth will get either one of the miraculous. It was never confirmed which miraculous he will receive. If you don’t believe that Adrian isn’t a sentimonster, go to the channel Cartoon Apocalypse.

[@chasingadrienn5015]

How?

[@stefaniarusso]

@@chasingadrienn5015 he is a half senti-monster😏

[@chasingadrienn5015]

@@stefaniarusso what do you mean-

[@arash.a2358]

@@stefaniarusso how can you explain? You dont have proof

[@chasingadrienn5015]

@@arash.a2358 yeah

[@povurme2222]

Ughhh, i wish Ladybug saw Chat noir's identity, and Chat noir saw Ladybug's identity when they got shot bc i wanted to see how they would've reacted right then and there...

[@bigj200016]

Honestly, I don’t think Luka is in any more danger than Alya is. After all, SM knows Alya is more than just a holder, even if SM thinks she isn’t using the fox miraculous any more. I can honestly see Luka talking to someone, most likely Juleka or Alya about the fact he knows something (yes he will be vague about it) that he shouldn’t and should he tell whoever the secret belongs to that he knows or not. And I could see him telling Adrien he knows but I’m not sure if he’d tell Marinette. But I also wonder what would have changed if Luka would have told Marinette in the end when he gave the miraculous back that he knew her identity. My guess is really not much. What happened has happened and cannot be changed. And as for Adrien’s mistrust of Ladybug, I think seeing the need for Viperion might actually begin to lessen his skepticism in Ladybug, especially when you look at the way the both took care of each other during the fight with Wishmaker.

[@i_dont_know8032]

Ok but what if Adrien gives up on being Chat noir and leaves ladybug with his miraculous, and of course ladybug is heartbroken because she cant find Chat noir since she doesn't know his Identity, but then luka notices that Chat noir doesnt Show up anymore and Adrien doesnt seem really happy either so he decides to tell marinette the truth and ask what happened, so marinette gives luka the Ring and luka goes to Adrien. Adrien opens up to him and finally talks to someone about his emotions. He takes the Ring and decides to talk to ladybug. Happy end? Idk these things keep me up at night

[@nekodastoopid]

Oh this one is a good theory!

[@drippyboo]

In one episode Ladybug and Adrien both said she got your eyes is that a hint about something 🤔

[@c.j.582]

So Adrien always has seen his mom with blue eyes but everyone else sees her with green eyes?

[@darksun.et.al.99]

Dude, what effect would that have? Interesting thought

[@sarahgaston5296]

Okay so for the eye thing, does anyone else remember when adrien and marinette both said that “she’s got your eyes” when talking about his mom? At first I was like what if he’s color blind and mixes up his blues and greens but then he’d think marinettes eyes are green. And we know he doesn’t cause “blue bell eyes”. Plus then it wouldn’t make sense for him to say she’s got your eyes cause he’d still see them as different. So idk what does this mean cause something is going on here and it’s not just an animation fluke now.

[@ivetterodriguez1994]

Adrien said "she's got your smile". Only Marinette said, "she has your eyes".

[@c.j.582]

What if Adrian is the only one who sees his mom with blue eyes? (As shown in his memory), That’s why he said that to marinete (who has blue eyes), and as for his das Idk

[@fatedmint]

for the theory about adrien being a sentimonster it just doesnt make sense at this point adrien has fought Shadowmoth and Mayura so if he was a sentimonster Shadowmoth or Mayura would have sensed something even if they werent looking for something they would sense the amok and its not like having a miraculous changes that as seen in optigami when the sentimonster used the turtle Shadowmoth could Still sense/use the Amok and Akuma

[@cecycarter2697]

Yes but, thomas said that the costumes are magical and protect them, so that's why Mayura or Shadow can't feel if any of them is a sentimonster. Even so, I agree with you!! In cat blanc, when they find out about Adrien is Cat noir, if he was a sentimonster they would have controlled him to get the miraculous more easily insted of akumatized him, because by then, they already knew about the relationship betwen LB and CN, so in that way Gabriel wouldn't have exposed himself revealing his identity

[@Christodophilus]

If Adrien was made from the Peacock Miraculous, then Gabriel and Natalie already know he's a sentimonster. When Cat Noir is wearing the suit though, he's protected - even from his own cataclysm. Which is apparently, powerful enough to destroy all life on earth. A la, Cat Blanc. If Cat was the only life to remain, when all others, passed away - then no miraculous power, can infiltrate the suit. Not even the Peacock Miraculous.

[@Christodophilus]

@Nitzan Shu Not if the powers of the Peacock Miraculous, cannot infiltrate the suit. The sentimonster Mayura detected in the episode, Feast, was trapped inside a rock. Which was not a miraculous suit.

[@fatedmint]

@@Christodophilus good point but there still somethings not adding up with that theory like if he was one who made him and why did is mother and father's eye color change in his memory

[@spyroawesome4045]

Yeah, hawk moth controlled senti nino who was wearing AND using the turtle. He even let his own words go through like “don’t worry, I won’t tell style queen anything” which is mighty suspicious and nothing carapace would say. That kind of proves that they would be like “chat noir is a sentimonster, let’s control him” and not “My son?!!! …Let me akumatize him”

[@levijiles2473]

The eye color swap is a animation error Thomas posted that some where i don't remember

[@riyadheksha2972]

The live call with andre, they told the one they are working on....is his favorite.... And he told that its exactly what everyone wants... It can also be a reveal between cat noir and ladybug...bcoz thats what everyone wants.... Or it can be a ladynoir or adrienete episode Or Adrian's feeling towards marinette Or ladybug's feeling towards cat noir....? Any way...dont get your hopes up

[@entyope]

#SBT I know this theory is kinda stupid but maybe the eye color represents ying and yang, and ying and yang represents opposites so it's basically saying that Adrien's childhood dream is the opposite of what we saw. So that means adrien's dream was to NOT be something his parents wanted him to do.

[@trash2273]

Agreed it makes more sense than the sentimonster stuff

[@entyope]

@@trash2273 yep I feel like she overthinked that part a little bit like it's just an image I also remember some brief images from when I was 2

[@EmilyTheOtakuofficial]

That makes way more sense tbh

[@shinkoxmh9113]

This episode really got the element of surprise

[@kahlian]

RIGHTTT the bombs they dropped 🤭 it was absolutely nuts 😭

[@abbybill1368]

I think the eye swap has something to do with the effects of having the peacock miraculous.

[@kahlian]

wait maybe you’re right 😦 it would kinda make sense

[@rose-gl4io]

Absolutely loved wish maker

[@CC-hg9km]

I agree with you this was the best episode ever🤩

[@aylenbrandan8428]

i love the idea of marinette with adrien but c'mon, if any of us were in her situation we would choose luka for god's sakkkkke

[@aarssassin]

Anyone else coming from miraculous Monday???

[@elysiqnn_9285]

Did anyone notice how In all the other childhood dreams, you can see them as a child. But in Adrien's, you can't?

[@mozzarellasticksss]

Yeaaahhhh

[@salmanez9645]

Adrien is not a sentimonster because if he was a sentimonster Then shadowmoth or mayura would've felt an amok inside chat noir

[@fahmidaakter2544]

Exactly.....

[@salmanez9645]

@@fahmidaakter2544 😀

[@gaurangprabhugaonkar7386]

Yes it doesn't make any sense that the protagonist is not human

[@salmanez9645]

@@gaurangprabhugaonkar7386 yeah😁

[@mk-tg1vj]

They say costumes are magical though...just sayin , even I dont want adrien to be sentimonster 😭

[@miraculously_mlady2604]

Erza said said that the episodes hes making are even better then Wishmaker!!

[@MrZakiaashraf]

Oh gosh now I'm scared

[@El-Tint]

It is common for a child to want his parents to be happy with him, to be proud of him. And that Adrien doesn't remember what he wanted to be as a child? I also don't remember, I don't even think I have any childhood dream in this regard. Maybe "only" a distant idea of finding my own husband, getting married, having children and a house (but no hamster!). :) ... Edit: OK, when I think about it, I actually live my childhood dream. I met my future husband when I was 9 years old (he was 14), we waited 11 years to start being more than friends. ;) Adrien has a lot of time.

[@michelleosekre]

I love this KZbin channel because catblancxprincessjustice really shows me things I DO NOT notice in the slightest 😂 .I'm very grateful for you girl 🥰❤️ .

[@maellesaliou5871]

I also think that currently, Wishmaker is the best episode of ML season 4 🤩 And Luka is the best character of ML 😍

[@AutumnTheBlossomTeentte2K8]

Luka is my favorite character and so is Marinette and Zoe because they are so awesome characters in miraculous ladybug 🐞

[@chasingadrienn5015]

First YEAH HE MIGHT BE THE NEXT Cat Blanc I Agree With You At First His Mom Had Green eyes Now BLUE 👀 eyes this is suspicious 💙 Luka Hasn't Or alya got a magical Charm Alya is strong about her emotions and only hasn't been akumatized once luka is sensitive So He Might be the next cat blanc since He knows ladybug and cat noir identity

[@chasingadrienn5015]

@@marinaa460 Luka

[@sanzianagoglinache8696]

Yeah it possible

[@AutumnTheBlossomTeentte2K8]

Well in the episode crocoduel Luka was depressed because Marinette didn't want to his friend any more and that's why Luka is sensitive and I'm happy that Marinette and Luka became friends again and maybe one day he will tell Marinette that he knows that she is ladybug 🐞 he can help Marinette and Alya out with the new villains in season five or six

[@shirayaniv1858]

So I thought, how is it possible that Felix and Adrien look exactly the same? They aren’t twins! So think of it that way: Felix is born and everyone is so amazed, he’s a beautiful baby. Then, for some reason Gabriel and Emelie decide to creat a sentimonster to be their baby, but don’t know how they want him to look like. They decide to make a copy of Felix’s appearance as a base and shape his personality themselves. That’s why Adrien and Felix look the same but their personalities are so different! Yes, this is crazy I know:)

[@DehSky]

Emilie and Amelie are identical twins. There is a 2% chance for their sons to look identical aswell.

[@Zz15861]

I think in the next episode we might see Bunnix. She might come to tell Ladybug that Luka knows their identities and they might have to go back in time to reverse it

[@melaniemartinezfan5310]

I don’t think that will happen and if that did happen and it made a threat to the world wouldn’t they go FORWARD in time to stop it and THEN back in the to reverse it. But what would they do then? If luka isn’t viperion in the epsiode who will be in control because it’s obvious adrien succumbed to his emotions

[@fatma-idek-bro]

I agree with the title so much

[@itslife547]

Maybe Chloe will give her talisman to Luka because Chloe don’t like ladybug and what ever

[@povurme2222]

OMG I JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING... remember that episode where i think it was Ladybug (or Marinette) and Adrien talking about his mom and there was an akward slience, then they both said, "SHE HAS YOUR EYES"- to each other I FORGOT WHICH EPISODE BUT THIS HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING IF IT WAS REFERENCED TWICE IN THE SHOW THE EPSIODE IS SIMON SAYS. I remember being confused on why he said that Ladybug had his mother's eyes when it was the other way around... could he be seeing things differently because of his childhood? Something must have happend between now and when he was a baby if he only remembered his childhood as a baby- Y'all better be making theories on this because i watched way to much Ladrien scenes to find this episode 😕😭

[@Mary.sLb3]

Nice I don't remember either!

[@povurme2222]

@Zion Young omg really... I didnt know people caught that and were talking about it on instagram.. I JUST SPENT AN HOUR WATCHING LADRIEN SCENES JUST TO FIND IT AKDNNAJDCJAJDNSJKQJBDJWIXJDBWWJD 😭😭😭

[@povurme2222]

@Zion Young i dont really have a "favorite" but if I had to rate which one for me is more likeable i'd say Ladynoir 1st, Marichat 2nd, and Adrienette and Ladrien somewhat tied to 4th place (nothing in third place) I put Ladynoir first because i feel like its more real... They have agruments, they actually talk more than any of the other ships, they make mistakes that sometimes the other person catches and they both learn from and grow and mature. Plus their trust is amazing... I put Marichat 2nd bc its somewhat 50% of Ladynoir ship, they are real with eachother, relate to each, and on some level know eachother's real selfs. But the thing is they dont really talk with eachother :(. I dont really like Adrienette 👀... I used to really ship them but now, rewatching old episodes, Adrienette is very much weird in my opinon.. Ms. Girl over here is stalking this poor boy only to get a REWARD of finally dating him- I know a popular quote in this fandom is "she's just a friend" but looking in a way from reality, she really just is a friend :/ imagine if the roles were switched and Adrien was stalking Marinette 🤦🏾‍♀️... and lastly Ladrien. I just don't like itttt. If it were ever to end like that with a Ladybug in a relationship with Adrien, I feel like there wouldn't be any growth and i feel like it would be kinda impossible for them to say their feelings 😬. Plus it's just a really weird ship in my opinion Oof you didn't ask for all this 😅 but how would you rate every ship and why?

[@povurme2222]

@Zion Young Ughhh that stupid Shanghai special. We learned a bit more about Hawkmoth but that's the only good thing- The creators really made her whole mission as Marinette was to stalk this boy wtf. There's so many things wrong with that special when you put it in a reality perspective 🤦🏾‍♀️. I somewhat agree with you on the Ladynoir part. Chat noir during the past seasons- He couldn't take no for an answerrrr. So many people in this fandom thinks its cute, and its really not. In reality (just like the stalking Mari does) this isn't okayyyy. Ladybug started to be mean to him when she realized that he just doesn't give up then somewhere among that she just let it continue to happen and threw good comebacks back at him 😂. If Chat noir didn't act like that she wouldnt be doing all that in the first place- But then again if he didnt act like that we wouldnt see any growth between them that actually makes the ship come alive. I 100% agree with your younger self. Ladrien- These two idiots 🙄 😭. If they became the endgame just IMAGINE how cringey it would beeee. Someone on tiktok said that the Ladrien ship felt like a teacher & student kinda thing and i totally agree with that 😭. But fr, the Ladrien relationship wouldn't work... The reveal would be so akward like imagine 🤡- i have no favorite moments for Ladrien, but that scene was cute! They are the same people but the relationship outcome does effect a lot of things for the ending and the direction the plot goes 😃

[@povurme2222]

@Zion Young Same! NY special > Shanghai

[@iguanasincamouflage9029]

It takes a while to show 😭 like, 5-7 months before you look pregnant. And since the WHOLE show is barely a year long... That's probably why she doesn't look pregnant. It's good that we remember though. It's going to help us see that time has passed once she starts to show!!

[@Aszuyuu]

10:15 I sort of believe the sentimonster theory. I think that Emilie and Gabriel tried to have a kid but found out that Emilie was infertile, so Emilie, using the Peacock Miraculous, made Adrien and made the object keeping him alive is, from what I think, Emilie's broach she wears in her comatose state. The reason why I think her broach is the object keeping Adrien alive (if the Sentimonster Adrien theory was true) is that it's always by her and its the ONLY thing she wears in the coffin, if it was true there would be no point to add a broach there as the rest of her looks very plain expect for the broach. She wears no accessories, she doesn't wear a necklace, earrings, hairpins, its just that. Also it would make sense to put the thing keeping Adrien alive by his mother in the coffin cause then Adrien won't find it, only Gabriel knows of it and as its surrounded by glass it goes untouched.

[@Non-Existent999]

I really hope they release the finale episodes in eng dub first...

[@Medinacrystalheart]

I hope in german but i think it will be at france

[@naynay3867]

I just noticed at 16:24 (The bunnix sceen) We the bottom Left hand corner it says Adrian Du Pan Cheng Which is Marrinettes surname

[@Anonymous-cw8sb]

just notice how nice the filters and the lighting looks so nice

[@Moody_Bun]

I wish luka was one of the mainlead like Adrien he is such a great person even if he loves marinette soo much he still let her go 😟😥😢😭😟🙂

[@coldstone2429]

The best episode #Wishmaker Love it .....

[@shreyaverma469]

I HAD THE SAME THEORY GOING ON IN MY MIND JUST WHEN I WATCHED THE EPISODE!!! I KNEW IT! LUKA CAN GET AKUMATIZED HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A CHARM HE HAD TO TELL LADYBUG!! I had to tell him but wait, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE LOL 😂😂😂

[@tinagillmore7796]

Okay, a few things: 1) Memory loss is also something heavily associated with PTSD, and considering everything Adrien and the Agreste family have been through, it's quite possible this is the cause behind his faded memory. It's also just common for people to block out memories linked to lost loved ones due to the pain it brings. 2) I seriously don't get why people insist that Adrien is a sentimonster. If that were true, Gabriel would be fully aware of him being Chat Noir and this show would've been about one or two episodes long, that being the Origins of Season 1 finale. The only way this theory could possibly hold is if Emilie created him, but even then, how do you explain Adrien growing and developing all those years? Chloé has known him since they were toddlers, and I'm pretty sure sentimonsters don't morph over time, or Master Fu's sentimonster could have changed significantly in the 180ish years since its creation. 3) I'm actually not too worried about Luka getting akumatized again, and I'll tell you why: The only two times Luka has been akumatized were due to lies. And as upset as I was that Luka lied to Ladybug about not knowing their identities, I actually think it showed character growth. It shows us that Luka now knows there is a time and place for lying, when it comes to the safety and peace of mind of your loved ones. Like you said, if Luka had told LB that he knows, she'd be eternally more stressed and constantly trying to protect Luka, which would be a dead giveaway to HM/SM that Luka holds some important information. Anyway, my point is, now that Luka understands the potential need and importance of certain lies, I feel like this one weakness of his will actually become a new strength, and he won't be endanger of akumatization anymore. Perhaps he'll even break Hawky's hold on him. 4) I think Alix is going to get her miraculous this season, and the significance of the post with Alya, Alix, and Luka together on it will be as follows: The reveal with Alya happened because Marinette told her. The reveal with Alix will happen not because Mari/LB and Adrien/CN tell her, but they will in fact know about this reveal because of the power she yeilds. The reveal with Luka however did not happen with Mari/LB's and Adrien/CN's consent OR knowledge, they neither told him, nor are they aware that he knows. But Alix will know of everyone's identities and anyone who knows the identities, so she will protect them all when the need arises. These are all of course theories though, so take them with a grain of salt.

[@twice-thefeels1242]

i have so much anxiety for them

[@sanzianagoglinache8696]

Me too🙁🙁

[@AnaMaria-in8vh]

11:34 that's what I thought when I saw the spoiler is was like" wait if luka finds out adrien and marinette's iditenity then he will see that they really are made for each other" i was sooo happy lol

[@strawbeary.6501]

**I have some evidence on what Adrien's mother was like. ** Remember in the episode 'Simon Says' catnoir was in the same room as Gabriel Agreste and catnoir got angry because Gabriel was not listening to him. Gabriel then was like "You remind me of someone". Catnoir just leaves to go help ladybug but then, immediately after catnoir leaves, Gabriel looked back at the painting of Emelie (Adrien's mother). This could mean that Emelie was always the more high tempered one whilst Gabriel may have been more of the calmer one. But since Emelie passed away, Gabriel became more cold hearted and started behaving more like Emelie. This may have been his way of always having Emelie in his heart.

[@povurme2222]

Ahh i just know the rest of season 4 will have teaaaaaa 😌

[@Non-Existent999]

Luka can reverse the love square and make them love each other equally meaning that adrian likes marinette as much as marinette likes him and same with ladynoir

[@shinkoxmh9113]

Luka.. He's too precious

[@kahlian]

ahh yes he’s so sweet 😥💕

[@Katiesdumpingground]

I feel like people forget that Adrien hasn’t really had the chance to explore life like the others have, he’s been confined to his house and fathers orders for so long, it makes sense he doesn’t have ideas like his peers do because he’s never been given the space to let them grow or develop, I don’t think he’s a senti monster at all, he just hasn’t had a normal life compared to others.

[@naomihain3352]

Here's a thought... What if GABRIEL is a Sentimonster? What if the ring he wears is where the Amok is? This would be interesting.

[@niyati-q5h]

Omg 😂

[@miraculousblog2803]

I rewatch that episode 10 times is the best episode of Miraculous Ladybug.

[@chasingadrienn5015]

If Adrein Was A Sentimonster Ladybug won't even take adrein amok away

[@leannemcelroy8482]

Thank you for putting a bit for non-sentimonster point of view in there. Much appreciated. I didn’t know what I wanted to be when I was young either. Thomas was asked if it was an animation error when talking about the eye color swap and he said it doesn’t matter.

[@chasingadrienn5015]

Luka Will take cat blanc place

[@abdullahbullar1196]

I see your every episode I am a big fan of you and MLB

[@corday3347]

I have a theory that luka will get akumatised and that could lead into shadowmoth getting a hold of the miraculous that can later be the reveal for the finally

[@melaniemartinezfan5310]

What about alya?

[@aeonvalley8589]

Marinette should really give Luka and Alya the charms because of they got akumatised they would tell Hawkmoth and also because those two people have been akumatised the most. know she doesn’t know Luka knows but she isn’t at all suspicious? When he first went back he said he already had part of the solution and why would he go back in time if they hadn’t gotten hit, what else could have been so bad that he had to go back because it was undo-able? If I were her I would still give him one, just to be safe.

[@melaniemartinezfan5310]

What if they purposely gets akumitized and ladybug uses the go back in time or second chance miraculous and once the battle is over she gives the a charm

[@mrfivehead258]

2:04 Thomas proved this theory as not canon already.

[@misslind992]

So many theories in my head, I could talk for hours. 1. I think yes Emilie was the original "villan". She started this whole want for the miraculouses and the magic wish, and Gabriel has fallen into that role now to save her. The picture of his memory could be super clever or but it likely is an editing mistake knowing Miraculous. 2. Luka knowing is the best character to know, but I'm surprised he lied sense he's always so honest. I think he'll admit it to Marinette by the finale. Maybe worried about getting akumatized again, but right now it takes a little stress off Marinette. 3. I really think Bunnyx will appear again this season with another time anomaly episode. But present Alix shouldn't be able to access the miraculous just yet. She needs to know their identies to gain that role and I think Luka and Alya should be enough for season 4. And I'm sure Nino is probably catching on as well. 4. Like Bunnyx said before Marinette and Adrian are all over the place even in their future relationship. So I think there's still a chance of Lukanette briefly being a thing again one day.

[@R4ndomStrang3r]

Helloooooooooo (I had a private scream session while watching this episode😌)

[@DehSky]

Why does everyone think that Bunnix will show up at every reveal?? She only comes to the past (which is our present) to fix something that was not supposed to happen. Alya, Luka and Alix knowing is supposed to happen. She only returned in Chat Blanc because Adrien shouldn't have known.

[@melaniemartinezfan5310]

Exactly!

[@estherbanks9629]

I just finished watching mega leech. Its good since it gives a positive message about the environment and how to face your fears. Wishmaker is also good since it gives a good message about your future. Now that Luka know who they are, maybe he will now understand what Marinette meant when she said that she has a secret she can't tell before she broke up with him, and at least now both Marinette and Adrien have someone to talk to about the secret - that's if Luka tells Adrien he knows.

[@Devyani777]

Sameeeeeeeeee Luka is my favourite character in the whole world of Miraculous soooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo happpy to listen this cause U R my favorite KZbinr of miraculous and i am not the only one who's favorite is luka veryyy happy to listen this too ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@levishouyo]

NOO LUKA REALLY A 3RD TIME??

[@fatma-idek-bro]

Maybe her pregnancy was early

[@noalavie2970]

Hi,really hope you'll read this😁 So I've watched the episode 3 times and I have a theory: Ladybug discovered how to create those magical charms in Mr pigeon 72, right? That means the people who's gotten akumatized before that episode don't have a magical charm, which means they can be akumatized again - INCLUDING LUKA!! (In Truth). Now Luka knows both Ladybug and Chat Noir's identities, which means if he can get akumatized AGAIN, he can reveal their identities to Shadowmoth!! It was published that Shadowmoth will get a hold on the miraculouses in season 4 yesterday, and I think that it will happen like this: Luka will be akumatized again and he knows their identities so he will get their miraculouses somehow (and then Mari will know that he knew and lied) and this (I think) will happen in the last attack of Shadowmoth part 1!! Also, I think Luka didn't tell Mari that he did discover her identity because he got offended...now that he knows her secret that she didn't tell in Truth, he might think Mari doesn't trust him enough to tell him that secret, so he didn't want to tell her that he knows, therefore he lied. P.S - I LOVE your videos! I watch them together with my also miraculous obsessed friend and we love you so much🥰

[@AutumnTheBlossomTeentte2K8]

Well Three things Luka gets akumatized again or he tells Marinette that he knows that she is ladybug or bunnix can earse memories which I don't think it's a good idea to earse memories so Luka tells Marinette or get akumatized again

[@my.meIody]

Viper Blanc, is all I can say right now. And Cara Blanc.

[@melaniemartinezfan5310]

I don’t think that’s possible and if you do, please tell me why.

[@katitobyt]

If Adrien was a sentimonster, he would have been out of control when Miraculer used cataclysm on him.

[@katitobyt]

@Zion Young The suit did not fully protect him. He suffered like a normal person. The theory of Adrien being a sentimonster is just utterly ridiculous.

[@katitobyt]

@Zion Young I don't think he's a sentimonster.

[@happyking2895]

The eye swap was confirmed to be an animation error.

[@maryshashaw2895]

She is pregnant still not showing which may give us a clue of time in miraculous time same as when Mari was talking to alya in rocketear saying she hasn’t hung out with her dad in months so my theory is the 4seasons we have watched is like only 3to6months in miraculous time