Fable Reportedly Has 'CD Projekt Red DNA' - Luke Reacts

[@derpherp7432]

The writing of this game needs to be great for it to be a hit

[@kushuaishuai318]

Well, if there is a very delicious cake that look like dog shit, literally.... would you eat it?

[@PAXperMortem]

I'm calling Dragon Age Veilguard-like writing

[@IDF692]

@@PAXperMortem I don't want to hear from someone who is my intellectual inferior and clearly wrong. No thanks. Move along.

[@IDF692]

@@kushuaishuai318 I don't want to hear from someone who is my intellectual inferior and clearly wrong. No thanks. Move along.

[@PAXperMortem]

@@IDF692 bad bait

[@stanley13579]

Looks like "a game for everyone". That's usually a bad sign, because it means all the risks and sharp edges will have been sanded off.

[@ItsJustCartier]

It’s fucking Fable what “risks and sharp edges” have ever been a thing???😂

[@IDF692]

I don't want to hear from someone who is my intellectual inferior and clearly wrong. No thanks. Move along.

[@willbaker6532]

Fable is literally the most generic "for everyone" Game franchise....

[@joshnizzle]

@@willbaker6532right?

[@Gungrave123]

@@ItsJustCartier Fable 1 was radical af, you just betrayed that you never played it.

[@MisterMonsterMan]

If there is no character creator and I have to be protagonist as shown in current marketing materials it wont matter. It will flop hard in the market.

[@Lotiondemhands]

he need to confirm if we are forced to be a girl that all most people care about if he seen the game play already

[@mareo187]

Dude Fable never had a character creator it always a default character in which morph your hero into a hero or villain or something between. They become obese, skinny, filled with stds, have warts, etc everything you do affects your character's evolution

[@Lotiondemhands]

@@mareo187 freedom of choice and i remember choosing male or female i don't want to create i just want to play as dude cuz im a dude it a role playing game

[@octavianpopescu4776]

Yes, a character creator is a big deal for me. I think it should have one. If it doesn't, as much as I liked Fable, I won't get it. And don't take this as some big deal, but I'll be honest, that's my preference. If others are cool with the character presented in the trailer, good for them.

[@inuyasha.mp3]

RPGs without a character creator are a huge red flag unless the main protagonist is charismatic like Jin from Ghost of Tsushima

[@yarya7777]

If that’s the lead character of the game, it will tank. Book it. This isn’t rocket science. And I’m a huge fable fan…when I saw the lead, I was like, “fuck. Another one bites the dust.”

[@MaXiUmImPuLsE]

Its model is after the lead writer who’s a transformer. Look it up

[@CatholicChad712]

Based

[@derpherp7432]

@@MaXiUmImPuLsE That's not true, 4chan mixed it up with some rando level designer. I looked up the actress who played her who is actually pretty and its just an ugly version of her, so this is more like a Outlaws situation. dunno why they made her ugly, but I remember in one of the previous fable games there was a plot line to make your ugly duckling character pretty so maybe that again xD???

[@ferminangelcarhuajulcaguil1196]

Why? Because it is ugly? Kratos is the ugliest mf in videogame history and still got popular.

[@TheRevan1337]

@@ferminangelcarhuajulcaguil1196 No? He's a stereotypically strong bald guy with peak physique. You don't seem to know what appeals to people :P

[@grafphal5103]

So lets summerise: - Fable doesnt look like a Fable - Fable doesnt play like a Fable Why is it called Fable?

[@DeShawnMcDonald]

because thats the only way the activist class is able to trick a large audience

[@nidavelliir]

Because AAA companies are creatively bankrupt and they can only ride off established IPs

[@rafterman5072]

I mean, it takes place in a Fable and it is based around the original franchise. It’s really not rocket science buddy. That’s like saying, “God of War 2018 doesn’t play like God of War and it doesn’t look like God of War, it can’t be God of War.”

[@Golden.Control]

Many games take inspiration from other games, I don’t know it doesn’t look like fable. If we’re being honest each game looks different, fable 3 was over 10 years ago so it’s gonna look different. Also you could say the same thing for god of war, but if you’re gonna be be disingenuous and say “The new god of war sucks” then I got nothing to say.

[@THETWUAN-r3u]

That should be the case for God of war. ​@rafterman5072

[@Firedblood]

The creator of numerous Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts characters was onced questionned on why all the protagonists in FF games are super beautiful, and his answer was: I once heard a fan say "I'm ugly in real life, and it makes me sad to be ugly in videogames too." and I don't ever that to happen in any of my games. Might be controversial to say, but it is obvious that beautiful characters will always be more pleasant to play.

[@thant0s]

This exactly, escapism, fantasy, *entertainment* . And that's not at all to say that one only ever has to aim for the single most traditionally attractive entities in existence, there's a *massive* range of aesthetically pleasing men and women to pick from. Also, "unattractive" characters can be written with remarkable charisma, compelling arcs and very good voices to make unexpected new "hot characters" if they're handled well, and have payoff later as the unexpected champion of a story: wish fulfillment. But going out of one's way to demolish something that is *already beautiful* and seemingly for no other reason than to poke and prod at your audience comes off as antagonistic and malicious in intent. It's so much of a red flag currently because of how much of a cudgel it's already been used, and it's directly tied to numerous failures so great, they've shuttered entire studios. It is all so very unnecessary.

[@shinnyshin7792]

Right--most games in this genre function like adventure books. Ever look at those book covers? Not many ugly characters there. Because frankly, a lot of people imagine a fantasy world with attractive people. It's called "fantasy" for a reason. And that goes triple for audience stand in characters, which most videogame protagonists are by default. Most of us are vain and don't want to imagine ourselves as ugly in a fantasy world.

[@cicerojohn581]

Thats sad for him i guess

[@Demogordon]

My wife is a gamer but she will straight up skip a game altogether if she can’t make her character hot.

[@jesusblanco7657]

Damn that’s wild so she will skip any games that doesn’t have a creat your character 😊

[@MunchenerFrance]

I'm sure both of you are far from hot.

[@TOAOM123]

​@@MunchenerFrance You choose to be this way

[@zelohendricks51]

​@@MunchenerFranceand yet youre single, they arent xD

[@GrimAbstract]

@@zelohendricks51ugly people flock together, nothing to brag about

[@merazahmed5170]

You don't need to make every main character super hot, you can make the characters like Jin Sakai, Cal Kestis, Female Eivor, Jason Brody etc. They don't have to look like supermodels just don't make them deliberately ugly like Outlaws protagonist and this one. And if you are making them deliberately ugly then makes sure it effects the story, and NPCs address them being ugly.

[@thant0s]

I actually think this would be a funny way to go about it: sure, the devs went in with a chisel and hammer and demolished the raw face capture model of the original actress, but the fact the character looks like a ghoul is relevant to the plot and characterization. Of course that would require these lunatics to acknowledge their preciously "inclusive art" is ugly as sin, which is something they would never do because their self-awareness couldn't fill the depth of a thimble.

[@86lanzo]

Fable is known for making you be able to shape your character by your actions..in fable 1,2,3 you can grow devil horns..demon eyes..and generally look evil..Just by being evil.. Fable is not known for hot or chiseled characters.

[@TheAwesomeness1123]

You’re delusional if you think the main character of Outlaws is ugly. Have you ever seen real people?

[@AhkleekMaDheekh]

The guy who plays Kal kestis is actually a male model.

[@thant0s]

​@@TheAwesomeness1123 "Real people" don't usually have facial geometry consistent with unmolded clay, and paying for the off-brand version of a beautiful actress seems like a complete waste of money. How the hell a game studio playing around with millions of dollars with supposedly some of the most talented individuals in their industry, can take Humberly Gonzalez's whole-ass face render and model it like THAT is bewildering.

[@shadowman2101]

sure, just like Dragon age vielguard is a return to form. cant believe anything anymore at this point

[@Donnie_Oculus]

@@shadowman2101 Form your own opinions, don't rely on others to tell you what you will or won't like. Trust nothing and nobody on the internet.

[@jimmyv3170]

This game is toast. It'll just be another rushed out action adventure game with useless choices and no RPG mechanics with modern day writing

[@Donnie_Oculus]

@@jimmyv3170 You know this how? From the trailers with 10 seconds of gameplay, you a time traveler or pulling that from the deepest caverns of your butt?

[@zelohendricks51]

​@@Donnie_OculusWe knew Dustborn was DOA. We knew Suicide Sqaud was DOA. We knew Concord was DOA

[@IDF692]

I don't want to hear from someone who is my intellectual inferior and clearly wrong. No thanks. Move along.

[@Yurrr273]

I hope this game takes inspiration from “Detroit become human” in the decision making interactions and outcomes. I really want to have branching events… To make you feel like you’re truly in control.

[@frankyhollywood3766]

@8:20 Yeah I don't NEED my dinner I buy to be presentable. They could technically throw it into a blender and give me an Italian Sub smoothie, but I'm still gonna prefer the one that looks like the sandwich and not the slop in a cup...

[@reedofwater]

Ditto. She's fugly and I'm gonna have to look at her mug every freaking hour of the game. Screw that noise. I'd rather play Dragon's Dogma 2 again or one of my other five games waiting to be played.

[@Grymyrk]

Like Asmongold says, it's a canary in a coal mine. The fugly character is a symptom of a bigger problem that will potentially poison the entire game. Just like Dragon Age.

[@sicariau6436]

one of the big reason luke annoys tf out of me. is he stupid or disingenuous? this and saying star wars outlaws could have "struck gold" because he got paid.

[@Joshemilio-j2i]

​@@sicariau6436He has said before that he has a bias for Ubisoft games.

[@ISGAMINGFORNERDS]

@@sicariau6436why does one’s opinion annoy you that’s a very strange emotional to have towards strangers

[@crelgen1588]

🙄​@@ISGAMINGFORNERDS

[@SharpsPanda]

I don't always agree with Asmon, but he's spot on with this take. The fact that we see the actual model get such huge downgrades is so disrespectful. I don't want all characters to be Stellar Blade, but I want them to be close to how their male counterpart models do. Example: Cameron Monaghan, Cal Kestis

[@vonnstevens2502]

I really can’t this comment section seriously. All I care about is how good the female’s writing is

[@preslim84]

If they purposefully make a character fugly, we all know it will go much deeper than just something seemingly surface level. We all know it, so to dismiss it so flippantly, is being disingenuous at this point.

[@loonzoldick]

so u have never played a Fable game before? google morphing system, it's been since the first game, the protagonist's appearance changes as your progress thru the game, alignments and stats change your character so what you have thru the start, middle and end game differs, this is clearly an example, and honestly I'd see them trying to upset non Fable fans while the rest knows what's up

[@GrimAbstract]

You people never stop crying, it’s insane

[@kieranlythgoe4943]

People complain about wanting realism then when they get realism they complain. What are you expecting a girl not born into royalty to look like in medieval times?

[@IDF692]

I don't want to hear from someone who is my intellectual inferior and clearly wrong. No thanks. Move along.

[@IDF692]

She is not ugly, she is a cute mixed race girl.

[@pod155]

Luke is silly. Dude, nobody cares that they aren't attracted to a video game character. Ppl just are finding it strange as to why companies keep ugly up their characters when they are LITERALLY based on models...

[@The_Glazer]

Exactly. We care because this is intentional. When it's making an attractive male character then it's fine but when a woman comes up they never line up. And we have more than enough evidence to say it's because they hate that men enjoy attractive women

[@himynameisaaron86]

@@pod155 excellent point.

[@luhhtee2547]

@@The_Glazer I get that, but what would be the point in making the char intentionally ugly?

[@The_Glazer]

@@luhhtee2547 they have said(I think it was a dev behind this game actually) that it's to rewrite beauty standards to oppose the male gaze. I don't care about ugly characters usually because I play mostly like 8 but style games but my issue is the reasoning. They are doing it to prove a point.

[@Yuuki_Asuna]

@@The_Glazer what is the issue with normalizing normal females in videogames huh? people need to realize just because it's fiction doesn't mean that the protag needs to be the best version possible in terms of attractiveness, people are just accostumed to excepcionally beautiful women in games and now when they see a normal women you could see in real life more often they get mad, you guys are acting unreasonable and imo it's a pathetic acttitud to have to be demanding only extremly beautiful women in games cause it's fiction. How about you let other devs have different types of women in their games other than beautiful, it's not like you don't have tons of women in games that are beautiful, so you guys really don't have any point, y'all just delusional losers who can't have perspective or can't understand different preferences from different people. Appearantly we can't have variety in types of women in games, god forbid someone wants to play with different types of females even not traditionally attractive ones. I wonder why I don't see this stxpid points brought up in games with "mid" male protags? mmm.... it's almost like y'all just want extremly attractive women in your games with no room for any type of variety that is not traditionally beautiful. Just pathetic and embarrassing behaviour, almost incel like

[@maheshganta2625]

My honest reaction is same as Lorax:” THATS A WOMAN?”

[@Seven-of-Nine]

We are talking about face or body? If about body then in my opinion it's how female swordsman will look. Although i am not expert😅

[@captainalex157]

@@Seven-of-Nine dude look at female MMA fighters, they dont look that swole, its just UNIMMERSIVE!

[@strider029]

It's easy to resolve this issue though, if audience already voiced out that they 'hate' the main character because it's fugly then give the players option to customize their character, like Cyberpunk

[@raidengoodman8754]

Or just like let them continue to be mad that a woman doesn't have to look like Eve from Stellar Blade to be pretty

[@theninjamaster67]

​@@raidengoodman8754 Bro Ellie and Dina from the Last of Us 2 are pretty Kassandra from Assassin's Creed Odyssey is pretty Elena from Uncharted is pretty Sarah from Days Gone is pretty it doesn't take super model level looks to be attractive but the chick from Fable looks like she got kicked by a horse and she's literally worse looking than the IRL face model. Don't get me wrong I fully do not give a crap that she's fugly as long as the game is actually fun but let's not kid ourselves she's not even pretty by average women standards.

[@theninjamaster67]

​@@raidengoodman8754 Bro Ellie and Dina from the Last of Us 2 are pretty Kassandra from Assassin's Creed Odyssey is pretty Elena from Uncharted is pretty Sarah from Days Gone is pretty it doesn't take super model level looks to be attractive but the character from Fable it's like she got kicked by a horse and she's literally worse than the IRL face model. Don't get me wrong I fully do not give a crap what the character looks like as long as the game is actually fun but let's not kid ourselves the character is not even pretty by average women standards.

[@raidengoodman8754]

@@theninjamaster67 you say to not kid ourselves, but you just did

[@OBEYTHEPYRAMID]

You mean mods ? Good luck making a good looking female in Cyberpunk without mods. Freaking transgender horror is what you get without them mods....

[@slimyyetsatisfying6637]

Having ex CDPR employees doesn't mean anything. Sonic Boom had ex Naughty Dog employees and you know how that turned out.

[@d.a.baracus]

Playground's game designer sees a peasant woman NPC in Witcher 3 & says, "that's what I want our main character to look like!"

[@Lotiondemhands]

he need to confirm if we are forced to be a girl that all most people care about

[@jameswatson5807]

@@Lotiondemhands I don't care because some Japanese games you play a woman and there is no peep.

[@thant0s]

Meanwhile all they had to do was at least pick the alchemist lady at the beginning if they absolutely had to go with some degree of frumpy. It may not be the tastiest dish, but there'd be a LOT of dough.

[@IDF692]

I don't want to hear from someone who is my intellectual inferior and clearly wrong. No thanks. Move along.

[@tornseeker2354]

@@jameswatson5807 Because most Japanese games you generally play as conventionally attractive women like 2B or Eve lmao so no one cares. Sex sells and fugly fumbles it's nothing new.

[@Kaleb.cornelius13]

It’s been confirmed you can play as a male

[@WesMordine]

Yeah. A male crossdresser. Its the one in all the trailers. That's not a woma. 😂

[@lawnmanGman]

can i play as a not ugly female?

[@Yuuki_Asuna]

@@WesMordine gooner detected

[@Yuuki_Asuna]

@@lawnmanGman don't buy the game if you don't like it, no one is forcing you kid, there's tons of games with other options/preferences so stop crying and enjoy what you like,simple, not every game needs a female you can goon over, grow up

[@izzaazzurri]

Oh boy, i think it's going to be another dragon age the veilguard situation.

[@derpherp7432]

Hopefully people are just jumping the gun over the look of the character in the trailer, apparently you get multiple choices who to play as, but really the writing in this game is what matters, it just needs to be at least as good as Baldurs Gate 3

[@ryanbarry34]

​@@derpherp7432the writing does not need to be at least as good as Baldur's Gate 3, that's a bit ridiculous, it is a Fable game.

[@TheForever206]

I sure hope! It makes things slightly more entertaining. 😅

[@D4C_LoveTrain1]

​@@ryanbarry34if my character doesn't turn into handsome squidward based on my choices, straight into the trash it goes 🚮

[@Golden.Control]

@@TheForever206 not really I like good games with good stories, especially as a longtime fan of fable. It would suck if I waited 15 years for nonsense.

[@dionysusmclaren12]

I hope the male option is a young Matt Berry. 😂🎉

[@philkensebben6672]

*story starts with players dad dying "Fatherrrrrrrr!!! "

[@dustaone8521]

The male option will look exactly the same with short hair.

[@thant0s]

To be fair, a young Matt Berry looks infinitely more bangable than the ghoul they're calling a female lead.

[@GmanZer0]

That or clem fandango lol

[@alexwilliams4729]

3:04 combat is the worst part of every cd project red game

[@Jinkypigs]

LOL. Worst? Only because other parts are extremely polished. But you are an idiot to even imply that combat is bad in cyberpunk punk or witcher 3.

[@noahsaboliauskas7753]

Wrong

[@HDGaminTutorials]

Witcher 3 combat is easily it's weakest part. Everything else is top tier the combat is a slog tho d

[@alexwilliams4729]

@@Jinkypigs BRUH!? In either games none of there assets are imbedded. Everything clips or impede the combat and also the combat has no response/animations everything is just a damage indicator (health bar simulator) For example: if there’s a battle ground at a cottage that has tables, a well and a body of water with a slight incline you have to pay attention to the environment just as much as the NPC’s cause you don’t just bump into them you get stuck on them. Games like shadow of Mordor, ryse son of Rome, infamous second son, A.C Unity already perfected this issue in 2014 before Witcher 3 existed. Cyberpunk is first person those games are inherently bad not much you can do with that. Perfect combat is Jedi fallen order/ survivor, sifu, midnight fight express, shadow of war. Good combat is god of war ragnarok/ 2018, mad max, Unity

[@Carts45]

Sorry but, Jedi's combat was subpar compared to God of War lol. I platinumed both games an Jedi felt meh towards the end of both. ​@@alexwilliams4729

[@Me_Caveman]

Luke, you usually have good takes, but a fugly character is 100% a good reason not to buy a game. Extrapolate from the symptoms the possible problems a game might have due to certain priorities. You are a smart, if sometimes overly gracious, man. There are many good, if older games available in any Steam backlog.

[@TallgeeseIIII]

I was so surprised that he said that. You can see me on chat at 8:22 say I disagree 1000%, and I always will. Had he said "It's not the best reason in the world..." Ok, granted, but it's specifically a bad reason? A stupid reason? Come on man, I thought you were the guy with reasonable takes, and that isn't. I'm glad he knows the writing in recent games has been shit, but the main character is your window into that world, they need to be appealing too, and this one isn't. And for that matter there are thousands and thousands of games out there where "your standards can be that precise", I have no idea what he's talking about. Every single game with a character creator for example, (except Dragon Age Veilguard). You can be ugly if you want, but why would you? There's a reason everyone tries to make attractive characters. (unless you're trolling like Az's DA character, haha) And no, I didn't play Bully, because the kid is a goonish little shit, and I never saw anything remotely appealing about the story. There's faaar too many games out there, far too many in my Steam backlog to waste one second on a game that hasn't done everything in its power to appeal to me. That isn't entitlement, just a fact. I have enough games, I don't need your new BS.

[@Yuuki_Asuna]

@@TallgeeseIIII you yapping too much, and jumping to conclusions so fast cause a female is not attractive enough, just wild stuff. We don't know a single bad sign about the game yet appart from y'all reason that the female is not attractive enough, wich does not determine the quality of the game so just shut up and don't jump to conclusions cause you can't goon over the latest female character in a game you can skip

[@anshukandulna1844]

​@@Yuuki_Asunadude I have seen you yapping in many of the replies. Why so serious? Talking about goon and what not. Dude most of the AAA games coming out are so sanitized so it's not wrong for people to assume for it to be slop. Plus it's coming from Microsoft, the king of taking Ls in recent years. It's also fair to assume it's subsidiaries will have the same corpo work culture. You're talking about making change? How about holding microsoft accountable for their dogshit 18 month contract basis work culture (one of the major reasons for their games turning out slop)

[@Lotiondemhands]

Ain't even about the ugly it about most are Men i want to play ad me a man it a role playing game so other wise im going to pc and mod to be a man

[@kieranlythgoe4943]

You’re just parroting the opinion of other people. Think for yourself.

[@GamingYooler]

I don't wanna play a game where I'm staring at something ugly. Like I'm fine with a more plain character like the new ghosts of yotae girl but the Fable character is genuinely ugly. Especially in an RPG that puts me off.

[@asdadsgsaadasf6043]

Nier Automata, Stellar Blade, Tomb Raider, etc. There are so many games where the fact that the main character is attractive and likeable is practically a pillar of their success. If the original Tomb Raider back on the PS1 had a stocky looking girl boss character on the cover, nobody would've bought it. It's very easy to be dismissive and say people are being shallow, but there's a reason people make entire careers out of designing these characters to be as appealing as possible. We know the reasoning behind this as well, it's come off the back of all the me-too stuff, the studios are afraid of objectifying women, etc. It's nonsense. It's a fictional character, it's just supposed to be a fun piece of entertainment. This Jack Thompson idea that if the women are attractive it negatively influences the players and damages society is something disproved by MASSIVE amounts of research.

[@IDF692]

This is not that kind of game. It's not for incels.

[@powergirl3798]

@@IDF692 Nice way to insult 99% of the gamers, including female gamers. Brilliant! Do go on with those brain-dead accusations.

[@cicerojohn581]

You’re right, the people are being shallow

[@noahsaboliauskas7753]

@@powergirl3798incel

[@derpherp7432]

@@IDF692 Spamming this comment section with trolling like you are doing is incel behaviour. Go touch grass.

[@Ibrahimidris]

"it looked really great" Series S: "heavy breathing"

[@DonJuanDM]

If the game has characters design as good as Witcher 3, then they will have my attention.

[@juggernaut6666]

most people I know the biggest complaint of the witcher by far is the combat. why would we be excited about the combat designer being from the withcher 3. even myself who loved the witcher 3 would struggle to give that game higher than a 5 or 6 for combat. If anything this is a red flag for me and makes me less interested in the game.

[@GetAwesomeGaming]

With MC Butterface and the head of Xbox studios saying this is a fable for “modern audiences”. There are all the hallmarks of preachy left wing political horseshit. I’m gonna have to have my expectations drastically subverted with this game to be on board 🤔🤷‍♂️

[@controversialverbal3792]

When both the male and female characters look like sad attempts of “passing” and your trans radar goes off… You’ve made your bed.

[@timmygilbert4102]

Guy with traditionally beautiful wife, unfazed by mid character gurl

[@ItsJustCartier]

God damn incels are so down bad they need hot video game girls lmao

[@Isaakmedextraa]

People for some reason tend to forget that it's called attractive because it attracts.

[@Scarecr0wn]

Just a reminder, Mass Effect Andromeda mainly did not work because of absolute mismanagement of the project. Dragon Age Inquisition runs on Frostbite 3 as well and while not perfect, was far more polished and devs had time to retool the engine for their needs. Andromeda could have been completely fine. As for the character... Why would I WANT to play as ugly character? This is not about spiceness, i do not expect Stellar Fable. I just do not understand why would they force players to play as straight ugly human. Games are escapism.

[@cernunnos_lives]

Because you have the wrong people on your team leading (concentrating on the wrong idea).

[@drewdruc5671]

8:07 “It’s kind of a stupid reason not to play a game” I respect you sir, but isn’t this dismissive of people who view video games as an art? I just downloaded and played Empire of Ants and the ant animations look beautiful. I’m not saying they have to create an attractive character - but this was the same issue that arose in Concord to one degree or another (obviously more to it they just ugly character design - even Dragon Age had the weird proportions on the heads) but like wanting people to suspend judgement (as if this is a court case) it’s Art… it’s supposed to be judged and if people are like damn that’s ugly why isn’t that fair? Why is that a stupid reason? A game, a video (yours for example), art - it’s a sum of its parts BUT if in all the points in the video you are making you decide to scream them at the audience foaming at the mouth, like (ugly - veins popping out of your neck) can you really call it stupid for people to be like check please… the delivery is important. I just bought some sushi, if it looked like they didn’t roll it and threw it together - if it looked unsavory or “fugly” I wouldn’t eat it. The character design in Elden Ring is fugly; which is why my nephews who play Fortnite are like screw Elden Ring - all this is to say: I love your content but I don’t think it’s fair to call people stupid or silly for being like: “I don’t want to spend $69.99 on a game with fugly characters” Basically how can it be stupid to say I don’t find the game appealing to me? It’s subjective, and if you choose to play games based on those you find appealing, how is that in some way the “wrong” way to play/enjoy games? I feel like it should be subjective.

[@Donnie_Oculus]

Get yourself out of the house, it's clear how much you lack female attention. 😅

[@Yuuki_Asuna]

too much yapping, you seem to not understand preferences, the protag in fable is just fine not even ugly, I even see her as cute/beautiful so have some perspective and allow games to just have variety in females designs, y'all have tons of females protags that are extremly beautiful in tons of games so it's stupid to not buy a game just because it has variety in female design. You can not like that design but there is nothing wrong with it and totally acceptable, even healthy imo, normalize more diverse females in games, as long as the game is good who cares?,simple

[@anshukandulna1844]

​@@Yuuki_Asuna then again his point being if most people don't like the "diverse" female look they won't buy the game. It's all the yapping modern game dev do telling us what we should like and what not to.

[@derpherp7432]

@@Yuuki_Asuna Sure, beauty standards and whatnot, but that's not going to stop the average working class person with limited time and money and a million other competitive choices from dismissing the game because they don't like how the character looks. People are shallow asf. They are clearly hoping to reboot Fable into a big franchise, so its not a good first step to ignore reality and depreciate sales.

[@Yuuki_Asuna]

@@derpherp7432 Wouldn't you agree that only making media for the lowest common denominator it's a bad thing? Let games have more artistic expression, you have plenty of titles that appeal only to mainstream audiences. They are taking a risk? yes, but I rather for them to do that instead of conforming and playing it safe, out of risks sometimes amazing things are created

[@SilverKitten10000]

Why are people criticizing a PEAK studio that make great racing games? Sure, it’s their first RPG, but that doesn’t mean it’ll be DOA.

[@king_smeat7973]

Jez is not a reliable source

[@aeolussvichi7680]

You don’t think ppl wouldn’t play a game because of how characters look? Did you forget concord? That’s the biggest reason why people didn’t want to play it 😂 You underestimate the gooning factor for a lot of the gamer community.

[@Donnie_Oculus]

@@aeolussvichi7680 Breaking news: Gamers lack female attention. Yeah gamers are the lamest community of people on the planet. When people like asmon and dr disrespect are idolized enough to make careers out of being lame its clear how far we've fallen.

[@DemonicLemur]

That pretty much had nothing to do with why people didnt play concord.

[@aeolussvichi7680]

@ lmao what rock you under to actually believe that? So the hundreds of threads titling “this is how I would fix concord characters” with illustration mock up to make them attractive were focused on narrative or gameplay and not visual appeal? Really?

[@DemonicLemur]

@@aeolussvichi7680 you do realize that online threads only ever account for a very small majoroty of players. The main reasons concord failed was them entering a genre where the competition was free and little marketing. People were not going to pay $40 for a game in which the competition was free. Also many people never even heard of the game till it failed so hard that it became a news story.

[@derpherp7432]

@@DemonicLemur That game had a ton of marketing and you could play it for free during the open Beta. Anyone could play for free yet the open Beta player count was only slightly higher than launch lol, lmao, even. Aeoluss is right, visual appeal matters. If Concord had character designs as Iconic and appealing as Overwatch did on launch it would have done significantly better paywall or not. Sorry, but that's just cold hard reality, the general public is that shallow.

[@intelinside212]

The appearance of the playable character does affect immersion. It’s much easier to get lost and immerse yourself into what you are playing if the character is something you would have chosen to make if given the opportunity. But you are absolutely correct, one should not base their choice of playing a game on the appearance of the character. It might make it harder for some of the audience to enjoy, but if it truly is a good game it will succeed nonetheless. Plus the modding community will fix the “unattractive-ness” quickly.

[@pacman1187]

At least the people who are not happy with the character model should be able to mod the character to the way they want (given that there is no character customization available). But the mod hosting website might not allow us to flee from their proudly presented protagonist just like they deleted the mod to change that black girl from GOW to a white girl. How double standard they’ve become.

[@loudimes5502]

Fugly people complaining about a game character being fugly is wild. The average person isn’t gorgeous. If a character is supposed to be an average person in their world, looking average makes sense. Most of the people commenting on the looks of fictional characters probably aint that hot themselves.

[@kinggeeno6133]

Facts 😂😂

[@GrimAbstract]

A lot of them are dudes complaining they can’t play as a pretty lady. I find that weird lol.

[@loudimes5502]

@@GrimAbstract weird as hell man

[@FireSkunk]

I really hope we continue to have a silent protagonist, even if I can play as a male I reckon there will be a sprinkle if not buckets of cringe dialogue.

[@Dark_sparky]

Why was the first comment a bot talking about doing ...things...in the kitchen. Lmao

[@ryanbentley8475]

I did not think Jez Gordon would sound like that & I'm British so even for me I was surprised.Might just be me but I've never heard him speak before I've only read tweets & heard him be referenced alot.

[@bruvkek4629]

Main character looks like it's from nightmare and not fable

[@rudyelvis9468]

Great info! Thank you very Much 😎

[@RedDevilsAlways]

Funny because as far as I remember combat was probably the only weak point of witcher 3 so I don't know how to feel about this

[@natethompson732]

Combat was why I stopped playing Witcher 3...

[@NathanFromTheCommentsSection]

To be fair, combat in Witcher 3 was a huge step up from Witcher 2, which in my opinion was serviceable but still really stiff, and that was a huge step up from Witcher 1 combat, which to me was unplayable. Hopefully they mean mostly similar in the 3rd person flowy sword and magic combat, but it's hard to say how well they'll nail the combat, given this is the studio's first non-racing game they've made.

[@Saulgoodman94]

Horrible take the combat was so deep with so many different builds u craxy 😂

[@D4C_LoveTrain1]

​@@Saulgoodman94stick to being a lawyer saul

[@johnnyflannigan136]

Combat in witcher 3 was good if you play on hardest difficulty.. Have to use all the bombs.. All the different magic the potions and the blade oils.. If you're just playing on normal and swinging a sword then the combat is weak........so in other words....... Get gud

[@rookierocksolid8536]

If I'm not mistaken there was an attractiveness system with make up hairstyle and clothing options. There also was a mechanic based on alignment that made you look ugly or good-looking, angelic or demonic based on how good or evil you where. And npc would react accordingly by complementing you or running and screaming out of fear. The core of this game is the choice between good and evil .

[@buggedmechanics]

Cope

[@Agiranto]

Remember how bright and colorful Fable was?

[@MikeAngel-1995]

If this fable is like the others then the playable character appearance will change depending of the morale choices you do. Also, usually they give us a lot of costumize options like the clothes, hair, makeup and more. But even so this game looks gorgeous, its worth to at least try it even if you don't like how the hero looks.

[@LuisGarcia-ds4fi]

The absolute goonery in the comments is Reddit tier ggs

[@nickalvarez5922]

Really disheartening...

[@davidlfc.b]

Will it come 2 ps5?

[@vanh0lio]

Dismissing people for not being interested in playing due to how the MC looks is just tiresome. We all know the real reason why people bring it up - its just a red flag of things to come. Star Wars: Outlaws, DA:V are just recent examples that had these same problems pointed out, then game comes out and it turns out to be bad.

[@lep2525]

I don’t think Veilguard had ugly characters though. They were all attractive to me except Tash.

[@nathanielclaw2841]

Its mostly a red flag from the people complaining about it since they tend to get their news from pedos and unhealthy trash hoarders

[@steffen89able]

It’s definitely a deal breaker for a lot of people. Not having a character creator is stupid.

[@ANDI3niable]

Playing the game for Richard Ayoade, also a huge fan of the IT crowd. Plus, knowing now that the combat kinda plays like the witcher games, I'm looking forward to it.

[@cloudstrife2878]

Coming from a guy who has played all the fable games multiple times and even sunk a bunch of hours into fable legends before it was shut down: The problem with the reveal was the IT crowd guy looks exactly like himself but the woman didnt look like the actress at all, especially with the side profile. If you hear what hes saying in the first trailer, they mention heroes with disproportionally high cheek bones, which is generally thought of as a sign of beauty. She then turns around and looks unattractive which makes it seem like its meant to be a joke that she is bucking that trend. The second trailer describes her as almost every girl boss we've gotten in these terrible movies lately. The problem with a reveal having a unattractive character and making a point of it is that it had to go through multiple levels and get approved. They know that character will be on all the marketing and on all the sites and videos talking about it. It also is a sort of canary to how they will approach the rest of the game. A ideology that generally looks down on beautiful women. Add girl boss being the main focus of the next trailer, it is a red flag. To be fair, the second trailer seemed to improve the main chick characters face, but that was after big backlash. If older fables are to go off of, there will be a male and female, with you able to give your character scars and new clothes. People afterwards tried to say you can do a character creator in old games and those people obviously havent ever played a fable game and were just trying to defend the game. People then tried to say your character is always ugly in fable which is also false. Look at fable 3, your chick is super hot. Its something to watch out for. I hope the game is good. But its worrying. Also, i like jez but he tends to glaze xbox games.

[@DethWulf]

The narration of the second trailer wasn't about the MC though, it was setting up an antagonist (whether that's just one of many or the only one we don't yet know). It was to play up the choices the characters (you) can make and how that which can make for a great hero can also make for a terrifying villain. It wasn't explicitly about "what a girlboss" but more so how "this person I taught had all the right stuff and still turned out evil," as evidenced by the end of the trailer.

[@cloudstrife2878]

@DethWulf hes talking about his experience with the main chick character and how she's so amazing and terrifying.

[@DethWulf]

@@cloudstrife2878 lmao No, my guy, he literally is not. I think you are forgetting the end to that trailer. It's a bog-standard framing device - have narration over visuals of one character to make you think that's the topic of the voice over, then at the end reveal that it's actually about someone else. It's even a quick and easy to understand shorthand to show how the protag and villain are more alike than they might otherwise think. That's why after a whole trailer extoling the skills and terror of a female student, the MC then tells Humphrey that "*She's* here" and they have a brief face off to cap the end.

[@cloudstrife2878]

@DethWulf yes I just watched it again. Framing that in that way only works if you suggest she has those virtues too. Thats the whole point of the trailer. She is all of those things too, but there's a villain who made the wrong choices. Pretty common set up in fantasy. It still suggests your character is a girl boss.

[@DethWulf]

@@cloudstrife2878 I see how you could read it that way, but I would argue that's not how that framing is typically used. In fact it kind of does the opposite - we're lead to believe she has these qualities, but when it's revealed that the voice over (Humphrey) is talking about someone else, then what are we left with? So while it might imply she possesses the same qualities, it's not an explicit argument. My whole point is that the trailer isn't trying to set up some "girlboss" or mary sue kind of character, simply that it was playing into arguably the core tenet of Fable in that us the player are capable of both great good and great evil. It was less about selling us on the character and more about selling us on the narrative.

[@Amnerin]

The entire point of fable games is that your appearence changes based on your choices, i think it would be good if you start funny looking and change as you advance in th game.

[@ContractualStrategy]

Hey, the Witcher 3 doesn't have Fugly characters, and it was made by CD Projekt Red so guess what I am going to replay! Love how they somehow think that a mediocre product with worse character's will somehow sell, when their competition is a game from 2015. Anyone wondering you can get the Witcher 3 for like $3, try getting Fable for that much.

[@Donnie_Oculus]

Go outside instead maybe lol, its extremely clear from your comment alone that you're lack female attention. You know like irl.. 😂 You don't need another play through of the witcher, if anything thats the last thing you need.

[@Yuuki_Asuna]

so you mad they are not trying to manipulate you putting an "attractive" female just so you buy, and they rely on the quality of the game instead? It shows more confidence than anything, what they are doing with the female character

[@noamias4897]

@@Yuuki_Asunabro that’s like saying that making half the screen black is a sign of confidence because you’ll enjoy the half you can see so much lol. A sign of confidence can still be a shit decision

[@ContractualStrategy]

@@Donnie_Oculus Clearly you've never seen a woman if you think that the fable character is beautiful.

[@Yuuki_Asuna]

@@noamias4897 I'm making a comparison so he sees the absurdity of his take bro, comprehend better. It is not meant to be serious

[@philkensebben6672]

I mean the Witcher 3 was great but it's not exactly the standard for melee combat. Would still be a big improvement though, Fable has never had good combat

[@Yuuki_Asuna]

I mean I heard that witcher 3 combat was way better than 2 so hopefully the combat designer keeps improving and elevating his craft, people can become amazing at thinghs improving with time and experience

[@philkensebben6672]

@ I personally thought TW3’s reputation was a little overrated (some of it because of studio resources, some of it because of design), but now that they have TW3 and CP2077 money behind them, plus a decade more experience, I’m really excited to see what they can do with TW4

[@kinggeeno6133]

That doesn’t mean the combat is going to be like The Witcher 3

[@thejessexander]

Luke, great info as always! love your aspect on everything video games. You have taught me a lot about video as well lol. Your lighting as well as how to properly capture footage, I’m an audio engineer so the video side of things were foreign to me. So just wanted to say thank you. Also just a quick heads if you didn’t already know, there’s a slight rumble or buzz on your mic whenever you speak. Maybe the noise gate or a bad connection somewhere it’s not very noticeable even when wearing headphones, I almost missed it too. Nothing I’m even complaining about. I just know you are a perfectionist and wanted to lyk. Didn’t take away from getting me all pumped up about Fable. Especially after learning they have CDPR people working with them on the combat proves to me that these guys know their engine very welll and they know where their weak spots. Bringing not only veterans but ones it’s proven track records. I have a feeling this is either gonna be one of playground games biggest hits and fables come back to mainstream. Or it’s gonna turn out to be like The Order 1886 or whatever the title of that game is lol

[@Tank-N-Spank]

I am just glad they have multiple playable characters lol

[@agirlnamedmichael1670]

His last name is pronounced "Aye-oh-ah-day" =) And yes, IT Crowd is amazing. Who dies in a fire at a Sea Parks?

[@86lanzo]

Playground games makes the Forza Horizon games..turn 10 makes Forza motorsport.. And both studios work on the engine.. I'm definitely looking forward to see what Forzatech can do in an open world adventure game... As a huge fan of the fable series..definitely liking the things I'm seeing and hearing.

[@vampirekingdarkness9076]

Them only showing the female protagonist tells me when there's a followup, that's who the "canon" previous hero was when fable always did good about tying your previous game's hero and choices into the narrative

[@RenigadeWarrior1]

I really want to know where the giant got his Ray-Ban glasses from. There are many small details and a few large ones in the trailer to hint at the same kind of game development rot that so many "modern" games are suffering from. The same kind of things were in the media for Dragon Age... It's not as clear cut as "I'm not playing it because the character is ugly" I hope I'm very wrong and this ends up being GOAT. I love Fable and I want the best for it. Just currently it's not trending towards anything good.

[@zeeegeee]

Glad I found your channel recently 👍

[@sergioajbs1840]

Making a character ugly on purpose is where the problem is.

[@gsuandre5579]

I mean,it does matter if is female or male, but saying main character does not matter is crazy talk, main character does drives the whole game

[@Mr_Big_Head]

Character doesn’t need to be attractive but they need to not make you want to skip cutscenes. A plain average character is fine.

[@sagephil]

Its called photorealism people, we dont look as good as designed characters. Fable never had good looking characters, but it does have a style.

[@ricardotaut7498]

Stellar Blade, Bayonetta, Nier Automata, Genshin Impact, Zenless Zone Zero, The First Descendant... ALL of these games would have been played by less people if it wasn't for their attractive character designs. Denying this is foolish.

[@dakota237]

Humans on a fundamental level want to look at cool or attractive stuff. That's how we're built, we're attracted to beauty. (Cool Cars, paintings, beautiful people or scenery). Not wanting to play a game where you're stuck looking at a fugly character for dozens of hours is not "a stupid reason" dude.

[@Sparta670]

It’s not that I have high expectations that I expect to be met to the exact specifications of what I believe to be attractive, It’s just that when I play any game I want to be immersed in that world and play a character I can not only relate to but grow to like on a personal level. I can’t see myself doing any of that when playing as the character they have shown so far who’s not just ugly but just straight up weird looking, there’s no reason not to make the main character of your game attractive. I have never played a single game where you create your character and made them ugly unless I’m messing about and not taking it serious.

[@powergirl3798]

The graphics and animations are phenomenal. It looks fun to play from what they have shown so far. If they give us the possibility to customize our main character and it won't be as limited and ugly as Veilguard, this RPG will guarantee to be the best.

[@sol5916]

I think not wanting to be a girl is a perfectly valid reason not to play a game. My favorite game currently is still Elden Ring. But I wouldn’t play it if it forced me to be a female character. Not sure why you think something like that is a negligible option. I didn’t play Black Myth Wukong because the idea of playing as a monkey wasn’t appealing to me either.

[@HalfDrankOJ]

Ok, I'm not trying to be contrarian or troll here. I genuinely don't see anything wrong with the main character. They look fine. I don't even think having a male character option is needed (it's fine if it's there, it's just not strictly necessary). It's on gamepass, so I'll give it a shot regardless.

[@LuckeeStrikee]

I feel like if the writing is solid enough and they aren't afraid to play into the MCs ugliness with jokes and such, it could be a charming point for the game. Doubt they'll dare stepping outside the political correct with that, but still. Although, I don't think female players will be very happy with that character regardless.

[@joshnizzle]

Witcher 3 is one of the greatest games of all time. The dlc writing being some of the most amazing story work in the last 15 years or more but that’s not what fable was tonally so who knows how this will turn out. Maybe they’ll remember to keep some of what made fable fable.

[@EvernightRyder]

funny how many people are still stuck up on the ugly main character, personally I couldn't care less, I'm more concerned about the writing

[@Saynotoshonen]

Having an ugly character purposely means the writing will be terrible also. It comes with the territory.

[@EvernightRyder]

@ i judge product when i see product, until then how some fictional chick looks is no concern of mine

[@buggedmechanics]

Main character doesn't have to be pretty but has to have charisma so you care about them....&not be boring af

[@Thomas-Bradley]

Now I'm a bit concerned about the next Witcher game if so many of CDPR staffs went to this studio instead.

[@domuk7844]

Character can be the hottest thing in the world and I'll still prefer an option to cover it in armour /w helmet or face covering

[@Me_Caveman]

This is a fantasy game made by different people for different people. It's not Fable, but that's how they'll get some people to buy it. I'm guessing it will be a superior Veilguard. It's almost definitely not for me.

[@TruthbyMean]

i Hope they get the writing done really well and funny.

[@DayLight_Era]

She's English What do people expect? Also, she literally looks fine, and people are weirdos

[@leedsalex]

Love CD Projekt Red but I want Fable to have Fable DNA :(

[@casbinwat]

People want this game to be bad so much that they're now calling the witcher 3 bad...

[@kinggeeno6133]

Facts, finding every reason to hate on the game 😂

[@OhHesCracked]

Witcher 3 is one of my favorite games ever, but outside of the combat in this game I don’t have much hope. I really hope I’m wrong and the game isn’t stuffed with identity bullshit. I really hope there is a male playable character. Luke is right if they have one they should show it because I think that would be big for this game.

[@lylianx4209]

You need to quell those voices in your head, mate.

[@willbaker6532]

​@@OhHesCrackedso basically you're scared of women?

[@kieranlythgoe4943]

People complain about wanting realism then when they get realism, they complain. What are you expecting a girl not born into royalty to look like in medieval times?

[@w0nezher0]

i do think thats a bad take that " if u dont like how the character looks ur reason is dumb " cause presentation is what gets people to be interested its literally the same as people not wanting to play something because they dont like the look of 8bit or they dont like cell shading etc if you dont like the presentation of the game dont play it

[@FormattedWill]

To be fair, I want my character that I'm playing to be cool and attractive, male or female. I saw the reveal of the girl in the fable trailer was meant to be a joke punchline, like "look at this chick, she's a hero?"

[@Chux13]

Why are people saying it doesn't look like Fable when it does in just about every way? This game should be pretty good. The engine (at least in the Forza games) is excellent at rendering in many things in quickly and has a good draw distance. Playground Games also have some of the best post-launch content I've ever seen in their Forza games so I'm looking forward to seeing how that translates into a different genre. I'm surprised they aren't just going for the same system in the Horizon games regarding character customisation where it's simple but effective (mostly). I would prefer them to add a fully customisable character creation but don't mind the system they seem to be going for. It's hard to say how well they'll do regarding the other aspects of the game like writing, combat, general gameplay, etc but the acquisition of top staff should alleviate any problems. My one concern is that the writing is too cheesy (like it is in Horizon). It needs to just be playful British humour if it hopes to match the style of the Fable games that made them so good in the first place. But I have confidence in Playground Games. They've made some brilliant games in the past (admittedly all in a different genre).

[@circaen]

I have never thought Witcher Combat was better than serviceable. This could be said about all three games. They are all fine in that area.

[@Carl-gj4ed]

We don't know the story. She could have been a lowly urchin that someone how became a great warrior. From the brief conversations in the trailer it doesn't appear like "high society" looks down on her but that could be to everyone. Hard to tell. I don't mind how she looks at all. It gives writers a lot more material to work with when it comes to "beauty standards". Give me a great personality and I'm hooked. "Beautiful people" tend to be way too obnoxious and too full of themselves. Give me scenes where she's trying on new armor and her butts too big. It humanises the character and much more relatable. Hopefully they don't go down the "ugly duckling" route because I'll throw my PC across the room. I welcome this.

[@arenkai]

In a game that is supposed to be an absurd parody of a RPG, why would someone want a sexy protagonist ? No shame in that in itself ! But wouldn't that be weird to see your sexy character act like a goofball and be ridiculed through slapstick comedy ? Because that's what Fable is. If people don't mind it's okay, but I personally think more "realistic" characters with an awkward demeanour work better for those types of games

[@spacecowboy7193]

Lol. Traditionally beautiful is not a euphemism for ugly. It literally means beautiful like a toothpaste ad, normal beautiful. I think you can just say she’s “unattractive”. It’s okay. I’m guessing there’s a reason.

[@GreatBlaqHope]

Ppl forget your hero would grow or regress in attractiveness and get scars from combat so maybe its the same for Ms. fugly

[@xXJames90Xx]

I'm interested to see if the game allows you to be really evil and whether the decisions will impact your character. I'm also not sure if the new style fits the tone of Fable and if that tone moves towards The Witcher, it would be miles away from what Fable is.

[@Dennis-qx5nw]

He s eating it up...lol

[@misterschlomo2378]

Yeah I'm not a fan of the "if you don't play a game because you don't like the character you're silly" argument. It is an absolutely legitimate concern. If this is a fable game you will have to look at that character A LOT. If I have to cringe every time I see my own character its an actual problem. And next up what about women? They don't prefer to play as men and I'll tell you huwhat, they'll HATE that character.

[@dingledodger5323]

Honestly if they'd go back and embrass the original concept, they'd include a character creator and make it a build your own hero/villain ARPG.

[@Seracen]

I am not really enthused by the prospect of the writing. While I like the actor well enough, I do not want to see IT crowd in a Fantasy setting, so hopefully they are giving him something better to work with, than most of these projects have been going of late. I do expect to have a proper character creator though.