lulu abc jogger review - why this is the greatest of all time (for short people)

[@armychris384]

Finally! Someone made a video for us short people! Please post more Lululemon videos!

[@jonlaidonlie]

Gotcha! Any specific requests?

[@omarcortez9394]

@@jonlaidonlie I would like to know about more shirts from cuts. Also a state and liberty pants review. 5’5 176, 32 waist. Big shoulders and chest so normally have to buy extra large shirts to fit upper body but kills me in length.

[@jonlaidonlie]

@@omarcortez9394 I'm focusing on athleisure/joggers right now so I'll hold on state and liberty. But I just ordered ash and Erie joggers so we'll see how they do!

[@iamgroot3391]

Great vid, as a tall guy I think they’re the best for everyone all around! It’s amazing I’ve never seen joggers and pants as nice as these

[@jonlaidonlie]

I agree!!

[@hondaxdood]

Thanks for the info! I’m about the same height and have been looking for a good jogger with short inseam - the hemming option sounds like a game changer.

[@jonlaidonlie]

For sure it's a game changer! Also the fabletics takeover pant has 25" inseam, I just ordered my second pair this week!

[@yesthx8440]

abc skinny fit is not available on offline lululemon shop, they recommend to choice just abc jogger. is there many difference ? I also huge fan of abc skinny fit. thank you for your video!

[@jonlaidonlie]

In my opinion, there is quite a difference!

[@sprocketdog6303]

Thanks for the video. I looked on their website and I don’t see the skinny fit ABC in the short length? Do they only have one length option with the skinny fit?

[@jonlaidonlie]

that's correct - I got the skinny fit and then had it hemmed at the lulu atore

[@ssongzio]

Did you get your skinny pair hemmed? I'm 5'9 and the 28inch length inseam from the shorter is a good length for me, however I much prefer the skinny fit just worried it might be too long and end up sagging around the ankles. Thanks

[@jonlaidonlie]

Yes I did! I've been hearing that not all stores do it though, so you might want to check before deciding to keep it!

[@NeuralEnergies]

Are they warm enough for winter?

[@jonlaidonlie]

Depends where you live and how hot/cold you prefer. I wouldn’t wear them below 45 degrees F on a walk around the neighborhood.

[@robertpearson6229]

Just got a pair of the shorter ABC joggers yesterday. Which do you feel are more versatile, the ABCs or the cuts?

[@jonlaidonlie]

Cuts. Because it's comfy AND office appropriate (in my line of work). You can also go out to run errands without feeling "sloppy". But the ABCs are better for comfort and working out.

[@robertpearson6229]

@@jonlaidonlie awesome thank you so much, and for the great review 👍🏻

[@jonlaidonlie]

@@robertpearson6229 you bet!

[@soju1shotx]

Do the joggers look any different after they are hemmed? I've talked to lulu stores and they say they can do it, but are hesitant because it's a hit or miss on how they will come out.

[@jonlaidonlie]

It looks subtly different, especially if you're taking a lot of (maybe more than 3 inches). Since the leg tapers, they have now got to hem a bigger circumference to the same elastic cuff. Does that make sense? Otherwise I can try to explain it differently or throw together a quick video.

[@tomj9261]

Are these still your favorite for shorter leg? I was going between these and the Rhone commuter skinny since they sell inseams in 26 and below. And other brands that fit well? Worried about the cuts and blyts with inseams

[@jonlaidonlie]

Whew, it's dependent on use-case. Best all-around: ABC jogger Best for casual wear: fabletics takeover Best for office setting: ABC pant (5-pocket) Notable runner-ups was the cuts ao jogger (28" inseam was just a tad too long) and Rhone commuter (the abc just fit me a tad better+it's easier to get altered at a Lulu store rather than ordering something online, measuring, returning, and then ordering another pair with the correct inseam)

[@mosytube]

One thing I don’t understand, why can’t there be a functional fly on these. Same question for sweat pants. What’s the benefit of having to pull down your pants to use the facilities??

[@jonlaidonlie]

beats me. Argument can be made that it's faster to pull the pants down? Esp if you're using the pants primarily for wfh. But I hear ya.

[@benciha389]

I tried these on in store and the shorter version felt longer then a 28 inseam. I wear only ABC Slim Pants with a 28 inseam that fit me perfectly. Did you have this thought too?

[@jonlaidonlie]

Yes I do remember thinking the "shorter" felt longer than a 28" inseam. Perhaps it's because the crotch of the abc jogger fits baggier/lower than the crotch of the abc pant. I actually have both so I can measure them out later this weekend!

[@benciha389]

@@jonlaidonlie that would be awesome! Lulu never stocks shorter in store so I can never try them on!

[@KentenKnight98]

I’m 5’11 medium build would the medium skinny fit me as in terms of length

[@jonlaidonlie]

It really depends on your inseam. Two guys can be 5'11" and have different leg lengths. The website says it's a 32-34" inseam so if you normally wear pants with those inseams, it should work out. Also, some lulu stores will hem for you which is an added bonus!

[@KentenKnight98]

Okay thanks I’m going to be ordering some this week

[@jonlaidonlie]

@@KentenKnight98 Nice, hope you love them!!

[@soju1shotx]

Sorry.. should have just made a new comment instead of commenting under someone else's. Reason I ask about hemming the joggers is because I like the skinny fit but they currently don't have a shorter version of the skinnies. I want to hem them down to 28" but am worried how they would look. Can do you a before and after video of the hemmed joggers? I totally understand that the more you hem the more awkward the look may be...

[@jonlaidonlie]

Here's a quick explainer, hope it helps. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5-qf4Waqs2CpLc

[@soju1shotx]

@@jonlaidonlie awesome!

[@brett7011]

Out of curiosity why not short fit? Thanks.

[@jonlaidonlie]

shorter fit goes to 28" inseam and will work for a lot of people but my ideal is 25.5"!

[@kenwilliams1561]

I never knew they offered complimentary alterations. That's awesome, great video. Thanks!

[@jonlaidonlie]

Glad it could help!

[@brenl422]

Hi, could you do a comparison video between uniqlo ultra stretch active jogger pants vs lululemon abc please?

[@jonlaidonlie]

Yeah let me check it out. I was just at Uniqlo yesterday!

[@brenl422]

@@jonlaidonlie thank you😃

[@dioneypintor3998]

I read that the skinny fit inseam is 32/34”. I’m usually 30”. Can you confirm the inseam of the skinny ones?

[@jonlaidonlie]

Yeah they were 34"!

[@Giggasaurus]

Where are you located? The Lululemon’s in my area don’t hem joggers :/

[@jonlaidonlie]

Bellevue, WA. My store mentioned that only the "bigger" stores will do it...

[@Adamas11]

I am very disappointed with the new ABC joggers based on all the negative feedback (thinner material, shallow pockets, etc). A few colors of the ABC skinny jogger just came back in stock. I don’t think I am going to touch them. Do you have any suggestions for alternatives? The Reigning Champ Coach’s Jogger comes to mind, although it is more expense than the LLL ABC Jogger ($155 vs $128). But money is not an issue as long as I can find a good alternative.

[@jonlaidonlie]

I've never heard of Reigning Champ coach's jogger, I'll have to check them out. I've been going back to jeans for the time being. 😆 I'm also looking at rain pants like Arc'teryx Norcan and Patagonia Dirt Roamer pants. Not in the same category as LLL ABC, but I think what I'm trying to say is I feel the gap that you're highlighting!

[@Adamas11]

I ordered a pair and will let you know my feedback (20% off!). I wear joggers to the office and rain pants won’t cut it 😂

[@jonlaidonlie]

@Adamas11 agreed 😅

[@jonlaidonlie]

Can't wait to hear your feedback! How did you get 20% off?

[@Adamas11]

I ordered them through an authorized retailer called FWRD. And found a 20% off code online.

[@Sportsman134]

woven air vs warpstreme?

[@jonlaidonlie]

Are you asking which one is better, or which one I'm showing in the video? The one in the video is warpstreme. I have no experience with the woven air and didn't even know it was a "thing", I'll check it out!

[@RightWingRadioShow]

Good info!

[@jonlaidonlie]

Awesome 😎 👍!

[@JohnnyVichi]

so if im 5'4" this would apply to me too right?

[@jonlaidonlie]

yeah you'll just need to make sure that a) your Lulu store can do hemming and b) that you're not taking off more than 2 inches - that's the max they can do according to the people at my store

[@edwardc504]

@@jonlaidonlie How did you get them to hem the skinny 34inseam to 25-26 inseam? Also, how is it so far now that they are tailored? Does it sit well?

[@jonlaidonlie]

OK brace yourself this will be a long response but I need to explain for clarity: 1. I visited the store twice - the first time to request hemming, and the second time to get clarity on the hemming rules/guidelines. 2. When I took it in for hemming, I just took it in and requested the hem. They pinned it at the appropriate length and off I went. 3. After enjoying the pants for a bit, I was back at the mall and decided to pop in to get clarity. That's when they said their only requirement was that they can't hem more than 2 inches. (It was a different crew than the one that helped me get measured on the first visit). I didn't think about the discrepancy until just now. I actually just measured and they are 22'' inseam, so clearly then can hem more than 2 inches off. I believe the policy/standard answer is the 2 inch thing, but if you go ask, they will do what they can (in my case, 12 inches!). It fits more like a saggy ankle jogger now. I'm not sure if it's because of the shoe I was wearing when I went to get measured, because it shrunk in the wash (supposedly everything is pre-shrunk), if the tailors took off more than what was measured (unlikely but maybe), or if I grew a few inches (unlikely). Most likely I was sagging a bit when getting fitted. If I were to do it again, I'd make sure that the pant is sitting where I'd wear it. It's still a really comfy pant, and I wear it every week, but either 1) my socks are showing a lot (yay for showing off fun socks) or 2) it sags a bit now from coming a bit loose over time. Let me know if you have any other questions!

[@JohnnyVichi]

@@jonlaidonlie nice thanks alot broski

[@edwardc1149]

@@jonlaidonlie thanks for the follow up on this. Since they hemmed 12in off did they also alter the tapernes from knee to hem? Or did they cut the cuff and put it up?

[@carlodelavera9735]

while the hemming is nice, they don't do a proper jogger hem which consists not only in cutting off length but also slimming the leg of the pant to match the cuffs. If you take these to Lulu to get hemmed more than an inch they'll do the length but not the width so they end up looking pretty bad

[@jonlaidonlie]

That's a good point!

[@lilicefreak]

Thanks a lot for the video! I'm also "shorter" with a similar build, so these videos are super helpful to me. Just to clarify, are the ABC skinny joggers you're wearing in the video already altered by Lululemon? They look like they fit perfectly on you! Thank again!

[@jonlaidonlie]

They are not altered. Maybe I'm a bit picky, but there's quite a bit of scrunching! I dropped them off for hemming last week and they should arrive in 4 days! For the record, I ended up going with skinny large, sold out for comfort!

[@jonlaidonlie]

Glad it could help! Mine ship tomorrow! Can't wait!

[@johnforlizzi1749]

Are the short version your wearing in the video altered? I’m 5’8 and want to get shorter length (28) and curious if they will be too long. Thanks great vids man

[@jonlaidonlie]

No, I made this before they were altered. I guess I should make an update video!

[@omarcortez9394]

@@jonlaidonlie yes you should.

[@bigsarge8271]

Great video man. Much prefer yours to the weird dude in Canada who posts. Cheers.

[@jonlaidonlie]

Appreciate the feedback 🤙

[@nightmar4056]

Would you recommend these over the Rhone commuters ?

[@jonlaidonlie]

Depends what your primary use-case is. If you need a specific length, then def ABC/ABC joggers. If you need the ultimate "everything" pant, you can't go wrong with abcs

[@nightmar4056]

@@jonlaidonlie What would you recommend for like going out or for church service kind of formal places ?

[@jonlaidonlie]

Cuts ao jogger or Lulu ABC (non jogger)

[@nightmar4056]

@@jonlaidonlie the cuts joggers looks very nice , they have skinny fit ?

[@jonlaidonlie]

@@nightmar4056 yep they do

[@CharlieLiuPhotography]

Oh man, after seeing your cuts clothing video, KZbin is telling me that I should be interested in your other videos as well. Now I'm a few shirts in for Cuts and am sinking money into Lululemon. My wife says you're bad influence for me lol

[@jonlaidonlie]

Glad I could be of help, too bad I don't get affiliate commissions!

[@donziceman]

Public rec try it, we have the same build :)

[@jonlaidonlie]

Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a shot!

[@donziceman]

@@jonlaidonlie yes sir! I order 34 waist/28 inseam. The 28 is amazing length with public rec with the joggers.

[@frozenmint5455]

Nooooooooooo Fabletics baddddd, I bought some of those takeover pants you mentioned and they already have started getting holes in them. Totally not worth your money!

[@jonlaidonlie]

Oof, sorry to hear! Mine are still going strong. What activities did you do with them and how did you wash/dry them? I'm surprised more companies don't make this style of pant!

[@KingTone81]

I don’t think I could wear these joggers to the office

[@jonlaidonlie]

Darn! That would have been nice 😁

[@gecko4310]

Not really office pants.

[@jonlaidonlie]

👍

[@zeplicon45]

how the hell are people buying these $150 pants when the same thing is available from primark for like 30$

[@jonlaidonlie]

Quality. You get what you pay for.

[@cfrontron]

Agreed​@@jonlaidonlie

[@tygaz3061]

Just went to Lululemon and they will NOT hem joggers with the elastic bands.. fyi

[@jonlaidonlie]

It depends on your Lulu store. The bigger flagship stores will, the smaller ones will not!

[@tygaz3061]

@@jonlaidonlie they should mention that on their website.. its misleading

[@jonlaidonlie]

Yeah 😌