LumaFusion on Android! Why I'm Dropping PowerDirector...

[@Sundara229]

LumaFusion is proof that it's not so much about the OS the app is running on (as often is claimed by some) but the talent of the developer that makes the difference.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Optimization matters. And it's crazy to see how well this is already working on Android. Seems marketing from apple doesn't hold true in practical performance.

[@xmlthegreat]

@@SomeGadgetGuy I've always felt that benchmark apps are too well optimised for Apple devices. It's also that any update to the app has to go through apple's draconian review process so I've always felt there's at least some amount of unfair edge and conflict of interest there.

[@thetechboyorg]

@@xmlthegreat Hmm interesting.

[@Culturelens]

@@thetechboyorg I have always said it. android is more robust than iOS . The developers on Android just need to be more level headed and tinker.

[@thetechboyorg]

@@Culturelens Yep

[@Gabilleta]

Maybe Google should do a fancy commercial showcasing what LumaFusion can do on an Android device and have the "Shot on a Pixel phone" to show all of these iFruit sheeps that their precious walled garden has been rotting away for years. It speaks on how good LumaFusion is when on a beta version, it already surpasses the competition in almost every aspect AND it's cheaper than the competition, even at full price.

[@farishanafiah8461]

If only Google enable video output in the first place.

[@lesleyhaan116]

i tough you Android people didn't need LumaFusion and that android had more and better video editing apps on the play store and now its on android you are all saying wow this app is amazing WTF

[@Gabilleta]

@@lesleyhaan116 Competition is always good and nobody is saying Power Director or Kinemaster aren't good. They are. What ISN'T great is their monetization strategy compared to LumaFusion.

[@rwilifeandtravel]

Great comparison. I tried PD some years ago briefly but did not like it. Glad that Lumafusion is finally on android as I have used it on my ipad for years. I was hoping I could install it on my Xperia XZ premium but it's not available for android OS 9. No problem with my Xperia 5. Filmic Pro is going the way of the subscription model and charging a lot for it. I hope it's not a trend that Lumafusion will follow.

[@AlanGurling]

I too, purchased Power Director a few years ago. I downloaded it to my tablet and was surprised that it "forgot" my purchase and that it was asking for a subscription instead. That's not a nice experience. I've steered clear of that company moving forward. Looking at the comparison here, it's obvious that Power Director rested on its laurels and let someone else take the lead. It's going to be hard for them to come back from this. Their monopoly pricing is not going to be sustainable moving forward.

[@soholingo]

Juan, another great (not your usual take) video. The only reason I have any apple devices is because of luma fusion. I have tried Lumafusion on android and in desktop mode, and I am not sure I need anything else... Also your video get the ideas flowing, thank you and keep doing what you do!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's the main thing that I would still dabble with on iPads. I loved Luma and now I finally have it on phones I like 😊

[@kevinpitts3548]

As soon as I saw it, I bought it! I haven't made anything yet but I agree with you. Let me buy it, subscriptions are not for the customers. It's for the company.

[@RemovableSanity]

My entire platform is entirely mobile software editing based. Powerdirector is my go to and like you I paid for it straight out, so it's good to see competition. For me I sent them my reciept of purchase and they resolved it their end, mind you this was awhile ago and it still sometimes thinks I havent paid.

[@theodoreivanov6257]

Great piece of work. In a segment where the prevailing NLE licensing model is the subscription, not the one-time purchase, Luma is an absolute steal. Let's face it - even if it were not the best app out there feature wise, we would still go for it, at $30. But it so happens that it also IS the best one from a technical viewpoint. The rare areas you mention where Luma might still be lagging behind somewhat will, in my opinion, be fixed promptly, as the app is moving in leaps and bounds. Without forgetting the massive effort made by the developers to make it available to the Android / Chromebook crowd, in addition to iOS. I have read that the team behind Luma is comprised of former Pinnacle Studio developers, that says it all. Thank you, LumaTouch, thank you so much.

[@BonchegoBonchego]

I been using LumaFusion for years. And it’s really all I need. Nice to see it finally hit android.

[@KyleRuggles]

When apps like these comes out and does nearly everything better, for less and gives you MORE features, it just goes to show these long standing companies are just out for money, PD is soooo behind the times and this new app comes out and 1up's them. Great comparison!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Kills me because some of those PD plugins are great. Not at that hassle tho.

[@KyleRuggles]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Yeah I was a PD user way back when it was released, I stopped using it when they got the subscription model and I lost a whole bunch of sh*t.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I stick with it for a bit, but the promise of a subscription never really seems to come true. From mobile apps to Adobe.

[@KyleRuggles]

​@@SomeGadgetGuy Well I do gladly pay for creative cloud photoshop/lightroom, do we remember the yearly cost to actually buy these pieces of software? Several hundred dollars depending on how far back we go. There was a time I was torrenting them back in the day but with the amount of features adobe pushes out, it just made sense to pay for it. If I don't need it for a while, I can cancel. Like if I want the latest photoshop back in the day, it would be a few hundred, then there's a new release, I'll pay for that, and the next... it adds up, I think the subscription model for adobe is a good model. But for mobile apps? Err... I'm not a fan, especially IAP's.

[@xmlthegreat]

@@KyleRuggles how many actually useful Photoshop feature updates since 2012 have there been? I can barely think of anything useful. The AI tools in the newer versions are certainly nice. I don't think anything else in between got added that I ever found (not even useful, just found). CC 2015 or 2019 made no difference. Premiere? They've monkeyed around with it a lot. It's still aggravatingly broken for many things, and the new export dialogue means I'll stick to 2021 as long as I can. After effects: what's new? Lightroom: I bought a PC powerful enough that I no longer feel it slowing down. But it never really sped up either. Premiere is literally the only app they seemed to have actually given performance improvements to in the past decade (after fucking it up in the first place). Screw Adobe. I'm trying to switch to resolve and fusion as soon as possible.

[@ManantialVE]

I moved to LumaFusion 5 years ago previously editing only on my laptop. At the time I was using an iPhone 6s and no iPad in sight. There is something compelling about being able to edit on the go and not being tied to a laptop or desktop. It completely changed the way I plan, shoot and edit my videos.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It SEEMS so much harder, but I've been trying to show people for years now. Editing IN the moment is kind of amazing.

[@ManantialVE]

@@SomeGadgetGuy 100% agree! I’ve been doing the same.

[@thesupremekingdragonzarc7289]

Is Luma 100% free and is it has all features for great edith video

[@thetechlibrarian]

It’s almost like the people that design these apps have never used them outside of laboratory conditions lol

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Especially for things like file management. KILLS me when you need to use it out in the field, but it REALLY only works on fast wifi.

[@kylesousa2051]

I'm so so sick of apps that basically require data to work, when everything is being done on-device anyway. I've dropped multiple media players and book readers because they can't properly launch unless you have data, which is fantastic when you when to use them while you're camping or on an airplane. And games are even worse. Not exactly on topic but I felt it was related

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Right! Especially when I use MY storage, MY data, and MY local compute power. Don't tell me rendering 4K is a "special premium" feature when my phone has to do the work still.

[@sasmitha8446]

Hey Juan! The release of LF on Android has been incredible. However, I'm still confused as to why professional audio apps do not show up on Android. I'm a guitarist and apps like Bias FX by Positive Grid and Amplitube by ik Multimedia just aren't available on Android and when asked for a reason they simply say, it's just much easier to run on iOS. If you could do an explainer video for this it would be fantastic! Good stuff as always.

[@marvoinfo]

I’m one of the weird people who was trying to use his android phone as a desktop pc. 😃 I was trying to play my keyboard live using midi and also video record myself with it. Latency was a big issue when I was using android. It’s one of the major reasons I switched to iOS a couple of years ago. Android io doesn’t seem to be there. Samsung had pro audio but dropped that I believe. I was using ik multimedia piano apps with my midi controller. The app broke with an android update and samsung and ik said it was the other. That was the early move away from android including the lack of music apps. I didn’t want to invest in the video apps either because I was trying to record myself playing bass guitar and monitor with same latency issues. After moving to iOS most of those issues are gone. Multitasking now is the only issue as I can’t multitask like on my Samsung device.

[@sasmitha8446]

@@marvoinfo Yes! I love Android for everything other than my audio work. It's frustrating because everything else (except the CPU power) is so much better on the Android side. I was hoping for Samsung Pro Audio to make some kind of progress but reading your comment, I guess that's just a dream haha.

[@marvoinfo]

@@sasmitha8446 I switch the kids android tablets to iPads. The androids now get very little use. I decided to basically go all apple for my personal computing. I just got the M1 MacBook Air on the $800 sale. I still jump on my android devices though when the battery dies on my apple devices or I want a larger phone to watch videos in bed. I said I may switch back when continuity gets better on android and windows but now I’m not so sure as I’ve started investing in more devices and software. Just brought logic and other software on my iPad and iMac. I purchased aum finally and it is what I have been looking for a few years now. I can gig easier on my iPad and midi controller all from one app.

[@rokko_fable]

music making apps are the sole reason i still have an ipad. it's annoying. I'm not into fx pedals etc, but for my use the two best DAW type apps on android are Caustic 3 (though it has issues with storage access since android 11 and hasn't been updated unfortunately) and Koala Sampler. still, ios has tons of synths and effects and sequencers etc. that I wish were on android.

[@damienlobb85]

​@mstk8845 I moved away from Apple. I can pretty much do everything I need on my Galaxy Tab and S23U. However, I still use my laptop for real-time audio. There's even things I can do on DeX that I still can't do on the device with a laptop-class SoC...

[@XP9724]

Dope to see how well the 6a performs, got it on sale for 299 and even less after trade in, absolute steal for the price. Reminds me of the Nexus years, top tier performance for a fraction of the price. Miss the headphone jack tho🤕

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Yeah. Especially on an A series phone. Should be mandatory keeping the headphone jack.

[@thebongtwister]

Hey I am going to buy the Pixel 6a. Want to know, can it run power director smoothly ?

[@thetechboyorg]

I just edited a video with lumafusion on my S22 plus yesterday. I like it. It crashed a bit but it's fine. It exported so fast in maximum power mode.

[@BrianGlaze]

I think I'm going to buy Lumafusion 🤝🏿....also, sounds like we need to report Power director to the Better Business Bureau

[@ericfernando4296]

for old style editing, i can see Lumafusion being useful but man, Capcut and their auto caption function really helps me making content that needs a lot of texts

[@Darknight127]

After being a power director user for many years I'm finally making the switch to this

[@Culturelens]

Woah, at last. Now I no longer need an ipad or Photoshop. Just lumafusion and Snapseed on an Android Tab

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Also check out photomate r3. It's pretty close to lightroom, but it's a single purchase.

[@Culturelens]

@@SomeGadgetGuy thanks. Been away. Sorry for replying late. Thanks thanks.

[@BonchegoBonchego]

Kinemaster was only like 4.00 a month. Now they charging waaay too much.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Even at $4 a month, Luma can be had once for $20 right now...

[@BonchegoBonchego]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Exactly why I have Luma.

[@RoguePlanetStudio]

I bought power director to use on a windows tablet for on the go editing and it came with a qr code for the power director mobile app for free only with 1080p exports. But everytime I export it wants me to pay. I have to uninstall scan the qr code to reinstall the app to export without issue. I bought , lumafusion to use on my lg v60 and my android tablet and so far I like it. I don't think I will ever use power director mobile ever again unless they have a pay once version.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Exactly that. Such a pain to re-verify.

[@NomadTechProject]

Great video Juan, Waiting for Luma fusion to get more full featured regarding texts and transitions. Right now it's limited on beta or am I doing something wrong - Lenny

[@1meen1]

Happy , mainly because it's a One-Time purchase vs KineMaster and Powerdirector. The layout will take me some getting used to and it no apparent stock assets, but again, one time purchase is more than worth it.

[@IMZ44]

What's your thoughts about Capcut and Kinemaster?

[@AdemOmerovicBA]

14:02 did you check PD files and set LF to output same video and check if speed changes? I think outputting at 50Mbps requires more compression and compute power. I don't say it is main contributor, but it affects the speed.

[@bobcoco6047]

Important, key subject, well done ! I had my reasons to de disappointed in PD (& actually Kinemaster & some other apps) when I wanted to try vid ed on Android, & just couldn't take all the features, precision etc, cutout. The watermark thing indeed is typical of that kind of firm, which peeves me on a + subjective level 😆 . Luma F on Android is the greatest news so far on the field, while I'm still eager as well, for a Davinci Resolve version, aligning the iOS tablet/iPad version. Alongside, I agree with ppl saying Android lacks proper Audio editing / managing apps, that could for instance, take advantage of audio interfaces in such way we could use it on anything such as phone calls (I've been looking for ways to use XLR mic for phone calls, very tricky, the closest was the Samsung Dex kind of softw, but alas its audio features are limited to output, the input remains your phone instead of USB extrnl audio...).

[@RestInValhalla]

I feel like rendering speed isn't an ideal litmus test; especially when considering the stock footage/music that comes with PowerDirector. I've bought Lumafusion and have played around with it, and it certainly shows potential, but again as you stated yourself the lack of transitions and effects gives me the feeling that its something I'll enjoy in a couple of years if they decide to add more.

[@NaturMehr]

Hi Juan, very great comparison 👍 Many thanks for sharing! I'm on Android all the time and used PD for quite some time. Now I purchased LF f. Android. I was a little surprised about the limited build-in capabilities for ready to use transitions and text animations. What I want to know: there are many 3rd party add-ons/ plug-ins out there for LF on iOS. Do they work on Android now as well? Before I purchase those I'd like to be sure. Any hints will be very welcome here. Many thanks in advance and cheers from Germany, Bernd 👋🙂

[@SBPromoVids]

I dived into Lumafusion by re-creating the animated graphics and lower-thirds I'd previously created in PowerDirector, ready for the season. Its already improved workflow, with useful features like multi-select, copy/paste, improved color correction/ grading tools and generally quite easy to use. I've run into a few bugs with Lumafusion, but it's certainly an improvement!

[@piravienthfcbayern]

Test Lumafusion on Samsung Dex or Moto Ready For? Maybe it's the function which we are waiting for?

[@thetechboyorg]

Did you edit this in Luma fusion?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

This and my last podcast cut on the channel too.

[@thetechboyorg]

@@SomeGadgetGuy I guessed correctly!!

[@pohorachspetom]

Thanks for the video. Can you please tell me whether multicam editor is available for Lumafusion on Android? Thank you.

[@autobahn4610]

Hey Juan is the discount for Lumafusion done? I'm only seeing it at full price. Maybe I missed it.🤔

[@prettyboii8819]

(IMPORTANT) ❗️❗️❗️The audio setting in the bottom left when you can put volume for each lines does it is in -db because it only positive or negative it don’t write -db ?

[@TAJARIBSAUD]

Still I'm using the power director But I'll pay for lumafusion Power director is working great for me I've bought the app way back in 2017 I'm using it on my tablet I don't know what's happening with your account I'm moving it between my devices and it's working but the user interface it's completely different than before I remember you're real camera reviews you convinced me to buy LG V20 and I love it the only thing that makes it but the old software

[@SpencerPablo-ft4sj]

I completely agree with you! I do wish, though, that image stabilization was in LF on Android.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Yeah. Fun transitions, more plugins, I hope LF offers a plugin pack at some time.

[@thetechlibrarian]

Thank you for this review

[@nhphotograph-5691]

Hi Juan, is it already in landscape mode for Android?

[@damienlobb85]

Whats the updates situation? I assume theyll continue making it better and better. Will we have to keep buying the new version like on desktop OSes?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I bought the original flavor of Luma on iOS back during the original launch of the iPhone SE, and I haven't spent another dime on it since. So far, it would seem they're keeping that for Android users.

[@myproject13ttt]

Question does the LumaFusion app give you the ability to create Split Screen Video? Thanks Juan for your time 🙏

[@Waltoncash]

Yes

[@myproject13ttt]

@@Waltoncash thank you

[@shrimperlincs3395]

Subscription for EVERYTHING! You will Own Nothing and Be Happy. No! I will choose the one-off purchase option, even if I loose some features.

[@thetechlibrarian]

Just FYI Luma fusion is $10 off today for iOS

[@ibanezprestige5964]

Do it has auto video and audio sync function sir?(use wave form to auto sync)

[@emilia1650]

Hello i find the text effects of lumafusion somewhat boring. How can I add a glowing effect to text for example? I can't find it

[@LazorVideosDestruction]

Powerdirector has been infuriating lately with the bugs around audio track editing, and yeah Lumafusion is really tempting right now.

[@LazorVideosDestruction]

And that's even when you keep in mind I got powerdirector back when it was just a one time purchase, and I have had very few issues with verifying my purchase. The app is genuinely just too buggy and laggy at times.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I've had a LOT of crashes lately, but I am also running HUGE video files through it.

[@LazorVideosDestruction]

@@SomeGadgetGuy I just have issues with sync on powerdirector with audio tracks, and nothing I do seems to fix it. Genuinely infuriating I'd rather have the app crash on me a few times so long as I can open it back up and not lose much editing progress hehe

[@sneakertherapytvplus]

Been using LF for 6 years now.. first in IOS,, then bought an iMac..still using it as an iPad app on iMac and it works well

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's just so good...

[@thetechboyorg]

@Juan Bagnel you say recording in 4k 120 fps is great. I recorded in hd 120 fps because my phone doesn't support 4k fps, and it looked normal. Am I doing something wrong?

[@wikenseru8187]

Anyone has audio issue with .mov file? I shot with fujifilm, and the audio is not working on lumafusion

[@natespnwadventures]

Question, I currently make my KZbin videos on my Pixel 3 (yeah I know lol) but I will soon be upgrading to a 23 ultra. My question is, if I purchase the app on the pixel, will it transfer to the Samsung? Thanks!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

If you buy it through Google Play, it should install on any phone you upgrade too. I've used it on multiple review phones now since purchasing.

[@natespnwadventures]

@@SomeGadgetGuy excellent! I appreciate the info 😎

[@rohannokiachambers9369]

I purchased Lumafusion on my Tab S6, transferred to my Tab S8 but now it is not going on my Tab S9+

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I bought it through Google and not Samsung. Haven't had any issues installing it on all my review devices.

[@rohannokiachambers9369]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Same. It is just that with this S9+ I really dont know what is happening. I tried to get help from Lumafusion Support Team but nothing is working

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

That's really odd. They should be able to help you out with that.

[@sounakspiano8701]

Does the device heat while exporting videos from lumafusion? (1080p video)

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's pretty heavy workload, so yeah, most phones will run warmer to the touch, but aside from the SD8Gen1 SOCs, I haven't found any phones that I felt were concerningly hot while rendering 4K clips.

[@mehdimido5270]

you can bypass scoped storage by using third party file explorer, i use speed software's explorer and works great for me (to access android/data or obb folders) and you can open two folders in different windows and copy files easily between them

[@darwinbelliard9664]

I might change, I used to like power director when you could just buy it and you still can, just like Office 360, when you buy the version of that year, without any updates, but it's too expensive.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I've been REALLY disappointed how they've handled the app and verification. I'm still a lot happier on LumaFusion, even for missing a few plugins.

[@elsamuraiguapo]

Got lumafusion for only $15 on the galaxy store. Seem like a steal for such a robust editing app that you can use forever.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Buy it once, no ads or limits, I've never spent another dime on updates. The way it should be.

[@tacticalpencil]

​@@SomeGadgetGuyIs it still good for android? How does it stack up against vllo, vn, kinemaster?

[@xmlthegreat]

What's your opinion on Adobe Rush? It's still sitting around on my phone so I just wanted to check.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I haven't used it in a while. Where I left off, it seemed too simple to do much, and it was nt much fun tying it to a CC sub.

[@SpardasTechReviews]

I don't even have the issue you have with power director where it won't verify my purchase. I just wish I didn't have to do it on every phone I have whenever I decide to use a particular phone to shoot and render video. I'm definitely gonna use luma from here on out though. Even in its early access state it's very stable and only really crashed once in my 1 III. I also like that I can exit the app and do other things while it renders the video out. It's something that on ipad OS in particular didn't work. Lol

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

You know... Multitasking...

[@evilevon]

I just made the switch today 😊

[@AdemOmerovicBA]

I don't know if you are in contact with LF guys... I hope they will make license purchases available via AppGallery (HMS) for Huawei phones.

[@BarryJohnson]

Lumafusion is now on most of my androids.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I still hope I can buy it again on Amazon.

[@BarryJohnson]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Wow, this Luma is going everywhere.

[@ivaneberle3972]

Best $20 I've spent on software, maybe ever. With LF and my Galaxy Tab S6, I can finally color grade 10-bit LOG drone 4K footage. My workstation grade Thinkpad P50 just got upgraded to a tablet

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's so damn good.

[@ivaneberle3972]

Saw the writing on the wall when phone SOC/processors for phones got so 4K cameras were doable that crunching them was inevitable. Now, it's stupid cheap, too (and not even a subscription based model)

[@ivaneberle3972]

Only caveat so far is not finding a Kelvin slider for editing WB... Am I just missing it-- or is LumaFusion?

[@StratsRUs]

Is there any quick fix for glitching and stuttering in Android Samsung A34 with Lumafusion.Even playing the first clip. Power Director running fine though.Thanks.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I would contact the team at Luma?

[@Docfly62]

I was always very impressed with PD Mobile but low key felt there was a lot of missing features especial for a subscription based app. The improvements monthly/yearly are too often not feature and usability based....just more free content(graphics, stickers,sound fx, etc). But it was the best choice out there especially if you subscribed to the desktop app which i love. Now I'm thinking about jumping to LF when it comes out of beta and cancelling PD mobile

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I wouldn't wait if you think you.might want to try it. Buying now in beta will be cheaper.

[@Docfly62]

@@SomeGadgetGuy trigger pulled. TY

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Supporting devs doing good work is always a good look! 👍

[@RedAugust08]

I really want LumaFusion, but it's not available on my Pixelbook Go for some reason. I'd gladly pay the $20 but not having it on all devices yet gives me pause.

[@cblizz730]

I've been waiting years for this app on Android.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's here and it's awesome.

[@lesleyhaan116]

7 years to be exactly but it’s finally here

[@jgj4430]

Didn't Adobe acquire lumafusion or am I imagining things?

[@thetechboyorg]

That was figma not lumafusion.

[@AdemOmerovicBA]

Finally 🙏

[@gregoryaul2005]

Sounds like u need to dump power director

[@Xiv2022]

Lumafusion in Landscape Mode?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Yup

[@OfficialKeithInTexas]

The moment LumaFusion dropped on Android, I dropped Power Director

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

SO FAST. I miss a few of PD's plugins, but damn if LF isn't rocking my socks.

[@joshhardin666]

I could see doing this on a nice android tablet, but people really do this on a phone!?

[@farishanafiah8461]

*laughs in Samsung DeX, Huawei EMUI Desktop, Honor Magic Desktop, LG Screen+, Motorola Ready For, and Lenovo PC Mode*

[@LazorVideosDestruction]

Yes I do this on a phone, it's a lot more comfortable than you would think

[@megadeth8592]

I edit all videos on my phone lol but I just use inshot cuz it's just dumb gaming videos

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

If it's dumb but it gets the job done, and you finish what you want, then it's not dumb.

[@megadeth8592]

@@SomeGadgetGuy inshot is surprisingly very intuitive. Lots of effects as well.

[@AmeNahar]

already bought on iOS ..why cant we crossplatform to android 🤣 so lazy to buy it

[@LukmanHakim-bp9he]

Honestly, i don't really like subsbcribtion model for production app. I just like one time purchase, because... why subscribtion? Why don't they just one time purchase model for the whole base app and make people buy for a new addition feature. Because sometime that are just new feature that you don't need, so you don't have to pay for them. Subscribtion makes it feel you don't own the app itself.. really ugly bussiness model

[@TReaterZZ]

Bro can you provide me the apk?

[@tetzet3254]

Sarcasm alert

[@chriskrausesmovie]

If you drop things if will break