I have both of these sets. I bought smaller sets, combined them and filled in with open stock where I saw gaps in the color range. They work beautifully together and you can find online color-ordered sheets of both collections combined. I find the Lightfast has a great range of landscape colors where Luminance has a great range of portrait colors. Harry at The Art Gear Guide has a great article comparing the color ranges side-by-side. Your comparison along with Harry’s provide very comprehensive information for these sets. Thanks for putting this video together!
@cherryblossomgirl9670 Жыл бұрын
Luminance vs Holbein would be an amazing battle!
@colorcrazy29442 жыл бұрын
When pencils are this expensive for me the lightfastness is the reason to buy them, so I would have been very interested in knowing which set had the most highest rated pencils and how many there were of any other level rating too. When comparing the color ranges I wish there could be a swatch sheet with all the colors on 1 page. I would also like knowing which colors were not in both sets. If you were buying open stock which ones to buy so you had all the colors without duplicates. For future comparisons I would be interested in both these sets vs polychromos.
@songbirdsmile14502 жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised that luminance won, but I was surprised at how close it was! This was exactly what I wanted to see, a really good look at the Derwent lightfast. Thanks! So now I’m curious how it compares to prismacolor…. ;-) Thanks for the giveaway opportunity!
@The_Lion_And_The_Lamb2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always been a Prismacolor girl. I recently got the Derwent lightfast and couldn’t believe how creamy they were! I love them and I was not expecting to.
@renmuffett Жыл бұрын
I did the test myself and got different results probably because I used a lighter hand and different paper. None of my Lightfast left crumbs and layered many times on my smooth paper. Every single one of my Luminance pencils left crumbs. Luminance did not layer well on my Smooth Bristol paper. Even my Prismacolor did better on Smooth Bristol and got very few crumbs. I love using my smooth paper so I wont be using Luminance on it.
@crazy4colors5342 жыл бұрын
Never knew the trick of turning your pencil for holding a point! Love when I learn something new…….and why I subscribe to this channel! Thx!🥰
@RamoArt2 жыл бұрын
Seeing the Lightfast swatches was super interesting and quite surprising. I loooove those dark greens and blues and I never noticed that the range is lacking bright and pastel colors. I just picked the most unique looking colors to add to my Luminance (as you said many artists do). Speaking of, a video on the most unique colors from each brand would be interesting for those of us that can't justify buying the full set of each brand.
@demi31152 жыл бұрын
Because the lightfasts are meant for layering, so you don't need pastel colours :)
@The_Lion_And_The_Lamb Жыл бұрын
The most unique colors is a great idea!!!
@RamoArt Жыл бұрын
@@demi3115 Didn't see this comment earlier but this argument is not well thought out. What colored pencils aren't intended to be layered? And if pastel colors are unnecessary because they can be achieved by layering, then why does the set even include more than a cyan, magenta, yellow, white and black pencil?
@The_Lion_And_The_Lamb Жыл бұрын
@@demi3115 the Holbeins have pastels and aren’t those meant to be layered? I don’t own them but that’s what I heard multiple KZbinrs say (about the layering).
@cilcatcreations48512 жыл бұрын
Omgosh I've wanted the luminance pencils for soon long! Can never justify spending that kind of money though! Great battle!
@savantbleu02502 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jennifer and Steve for all the work you both do to bring out these type of content! As someone who lives in a country where a single Luminance cost $6-7 and Lightfast even more so, owning either of them is honestly just a dream for me, getting to see how different the two brands compared with each other is extremely useful in getting a good judgment between those two beautiful brands. Thank you!💗
@The_Lion_And_The_Lamb2 жыл бұрын
Where do you live? I have both sets but I still love my Prismacolor pencils and use them the most. These pencils are nice, but prisma’s are all you really need in my opinion.
@crazy4colors5342 жыл бұрын
Yes! I’m now skilled at blending thanks to Jennifer’s video on blending thirds!! Such an AWESOME teacher and an ARSENAL of training tools and videos she gives us!!
@joannaleszczynski15452 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing such an in depth comparison. Your videos always contain such wonderful and insightful information.
@Destinee19942 жыл бұрын
Omg I’ve been wanting luminance for a month! I’d like to see luminance with prismacolors or polychromos
@crazy4colors5342 жыл бұрын
Thx for your vote for Prismacolors also! I recently received as a belated Birthday present and am having a blast applying them to my coloring pages. Finding they even work on the infamous Amazon printed books 😉
@tereza892 жыл бұрын
Wow I'm suprised by difference between the luminance and lighfast. Thank you - your information is best for me. :)
@shutson32282 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always interesting and informative. Thank you for all the hard work you and Steve do.
@yvonnem19192 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the hard work you put in to your videos... I always check your reviews before I purchase my coloring and drawing supplies !
@shiver_shay2 жыл бұрын
I like these battle videos best. I wish there was an unlimited supply of art supplies to test and an unlimited budget! I love the detail you go into for the testing.
@judygrandstrand97842 жыл бұрын
I love watching you do the comparison videos. I have learned so much!
@11556sunshine2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! As always, great lesson& amazing information. One consideration might be the type of work you produce. One line seems more towards nature/landscape while the other “felt” more portrait. Either way-an awesome tool to add to your arsenal.
@melissacallender11962 жыл бұрын
I love how you make everything so easy to understand keep the great work up
@joannaplichta96772 жыл бұрын
I would say, like many people, that the sets complement each other. Derwent Lightfasts have a better pallette for natura journaling, landscapes, wildlife, scientific illustration; also a greater ability to keep a point, which is useful in such drawings. They definitely lack good blues for flowers. Luminances have better blues, but worse greens. They also have lots of portrait colours. As far as quality is concerned both have their issues. Caran d'Ache Luminance have from time to time a pencil that is practically useless due to being really scratchy. LIghtfasts don't have such obvious issues, but their pastels are very waxy. So it's really good to have both sets.
@Becca-UK11 ай бұрын
I love how your husband gets involved and shows lots of interest. So sweet ❤
@magereina2 жыл бұрын
These are both such impressive pencil sets. You two are amazing for offering this opportunity to your viewers💙💜💚💛
@alandrielschnabel29282 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jennifer and Steve for being this picky. 😁 I've learned a lot. 🙏
@jenniferjohnson72772 жыл бұрын
For sharpening the Luminance, I have a Jarlink electric sharpener. The opening states it is only for pencils 6-8mm, but my Luminance pencils fit just fine and sharpen with no problems for over a year now.
@angelajclarkson2 жыл бұрын
I see my luminance and lighfast pencils as complimentary sets. They work really well together and have different colour palettes
@daelite692 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I combined both sets into a large set. Lightfast are more muted tones and Luminance vibrant tones. I also don't notice a difference in barrel size when using them. They are different, but I expect that with different brands.
@Mirrigold2 жыл бұрын
Totally this! I use mine for completely different types of art subject but they also work fabulously in companion with each other.
@twingytwango6971 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised at the results, now Amazon needs to drop the price of the Lightfast so I can afford them.
@annettederksen48962 жыл бұрын
Wow! Would love to win these. They look gorgeous. Thank you for sharing with us.🥰🥰🥰
@dragonsjewel73742 жыл бұрын
I know I am watching this after it's main stream but I wanted to say something about the easy on the hands thing. As someone who loves to color but also suffers from carpal tunnel, those little extra things like having to twist a pencil more or applying a harder pressure to get the same effect can be more strenuous on the hands. I would imagine this could speak towards anyone with hand or wrist issues. Overall I was surprised by this battle. It was very close indeed.
@gin84572 жыл бұрын
Love the derwent brand but luminance looks great to work with. Thanks for all the testing you do, you're my go to for all that info. Thanks for your channel!!!
@renmuffett Жыл бұрын
I believe the paper being used and the lightness of hand plays a huge role in the outcome. I used both of my sets on Smooth Bristol and got different results. I bought Luminance based on this review and since I invested and tried them, I am not impressed. I like using smooth Bristol and even Prismacolor left fewer crumbs, layered better and did not cake up on it. My Lightfast left no crumbs at all and layered more times. It never did start caking and leaving clumps. Some pigments like the Oranges and Blues are also more pigmented and can get a darker value.
@SliWolfette7 ай бұрын
I really appreciate this video. I've been saving up for a really nice set of colored pencils, and I've been torn between these 2 sets for quite some time. I'm going with the Luminance... Thank you!!!
@robertahinman36312 жыл бұрын
Very interesting information. You do such outstanding job of explaining color pencil brand differences. Thank you for the videos.
@marcoss62128 ай бұрын
First , thank for making he video, I know I'm a little late for comment. Luninance pencils are more opaque and that's the reason I went with Lightfast few months ago, no regrets at all, meaning I can build more layers with Derwent pencils to mix colors also a core a little bigger core. No doubt both pencils are phenomenal, high end both. My humble opinion Lightfast is the choice to make, the difference in price between them and the pros you brought to light, does not justify spending money on the Caran D'Ache if you getting Lightfast on a tin like I did, again my very own opinion. I'm not bashing Luminance at all, have their 40 set plus I don't like to see color crumbs on my paper. You always make informative videos, thank you for your work, I've watching your channel for a bit, keep it guys! (including your husband 😀).
@valerieb80062 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. I think the Luminance had more vibrant colors. That's what i gravitate toward. They are both , as you said, "diamonds". Lovely lovely pencils. oh, and Thank you for the opportunity to win the Luminance pencils!!
@crazy4colors5342 жыл бұрын
Oh how I wish I had an art studio!! I would be happy to just start with those beautiful pencils!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 🤞🏼🤞🏼fingers crossed for that BIG WIN!! 😍🥰🌹
@MamawCindy2 жыл бұрын
It was fun to see this battle between these two pencils. Both are extremely nice. I wouldn't ever be able to afford either one of them. But I really like the colors of the Luminance. I am super excited for the chance to win. Thank you for the chance!
@sunnycharacter2 жыл бұрын
Such amazing colors and superb battle! Thank you for the giveaway! 😍
@swatson198212 жыл бұрын
I’m totally not surprised lol. I can’t wait to try those Luminance pencils!
@verlenedavidson92152 жыл бұрын
I would love to try these pencils I have never tried them before.
@dthomp062 жыл бұрын
As a colorist with arthritis, easy on the hand is really important to me. So glad to hear that Luminance is better for that. I have 12 of each and much prefer the Luminance. I’d love the full set. I’ve entered the giveaway and am keeping my fingers crossed 🤞🏻 when not coloring.
@kearalydon2 жыл бұрын
I am so excited to see this and the giveaway is on my 50th birthday! Thanks for all your hard work!
@veystone25802 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. 🥰 A vs Prismacolors would be interesting!
@beckymacallester68982 жыл бұрын
Great video! Both sets are gorgeous and fantastic to use. I just saw that the 100 Lightfast are now available in a tin (or will be soon). :)
@TheBicycleLadyThings2 жыл бұрын
Great job with the comparison I enjoyed and some good information! Thanks
@tracydovich45992 жыл бұрын
The Luminance are just such beautiful pencils 💜 but I feel that the Derwent are beautiful as well.
@7Dorie2 жыл бұрын
Steve and. Jennifer, Thank you for this great video. I LOVED the NitPicky comparison! As to further comparisons, I would really like to see Luminance up against the Faber Castell Polychromos. Polys are also very highly lightfast and have a great selection of colors and are great artist grade. pencils. In my area the Polys are less expensive than the Luminance and it would be. great to see if the Luminance are worth the extra $$. Also, it would be great to know how many pencils are the Excellent Lightfast grade in both sets as opposed. to lesser grades of lightfast. Thanks again! and Congratulations! on having the full set of the two very best color pencils in the world!!! Two last quick questions: Do you plan to put these two sets together to make one massive set in color order? If so, would you do a tritones set of Color Wheel all swatch pages containing both?
@iravarinia2 жыл бұрын
Look at those beautiful colors, now I have to have both!😄😍😄
@lotusflowerpassion2 жыл бұрын
wow that was kool and good to know I have lumanance on my wish list to get one day , thanks so much for sharing this with us
@Menoetia2 жыл бұрын
Can I just say... I love pencils that aren't coated, where you can see the grain of the wood? And the Luminance are just so pretty, the way they print all the information on them. It's pretty clear they're both REALLY high quality sets of artist pencils which is probably why they're SO close in quality! Speaking of which... have you tried Cezanne pencils, or Hippie Crafter's? Hippie Crafter has a set of oil based that seems ridiculously cheap- 72 pencils for a whole 25$
@helenc20232 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work carrying out the pencil battle. I would also like to thank you for the giveaway, so very kind of you. As for the battle, I have been looking at both sets of pencils and was unsure which set to get. Thanks for all the information. Regards Helen
@karenluker27942 жыл бұрын
A fantastic video and comparison - thank you.
@mjpete272 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I do have more Derwent art supplies than Caran D'Ache supplies! I do like the softer Prismacolor pencils but that might be because of my college drawing experience. I love my Neocolor II sticks the watersolublity is just so wonderful, I have several brands of Pastel pencils and the Derwent's are consistently good! Well I wish everyone the best of luck winning the giveaway I do hope more for myself, but that is just me being a bit on the selfish side. Sorry! Wonderful video and good job by you both!
@myyoga8spa Жыл бұрын
That was a great and awesome video too thank you so much I needed that, and it was fun to watch too , thank you for sharing it.😘
@artandmorewithrachelnicole2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the awesome videos 🥰
@myynockk2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the light fastness ratings of both.
@peteinuk2 жыл бұрын
They are both excellnt.
@melmarz46642 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried the luminance as yet as coming from a not U.S country, I would have to pay not only an arm and a leg but Im pretty sure a couple of toes for good measure lol and I have done my own mini head to head but with the Derwent Lightfast ( 12 set) and the Lyra Rembrandt Polycolor (24) and they are a close dupe for the Derwent lightfast they are very close and in some areas look almost as if its the same pencil, if you can do a video on comp pencils for the high end brands, as there are a lot of Artist like myself that are on a budget but want quality . Great vid btw very informative as per usual
@sandrah17792 жыл бұрын
Hi Jennifer and Steve. Thanks for the great head to head. Which of the two brands is as creamy buttery as Prismacolor Premier? I have always wondered.
@Nishkween2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you for this! i have all the Luminance, but yet have to try the Derwents. My Lightfast & Chromaflows should be arriving soon and can't wait to play around with them and try what you've shown us today. Thanks for the great vids and also for doing the giveaways. Awesome as always.
@siag71072 жыл бұрын
I have Chromaflow (24 set) and 5 open stock Lightfast only for a week. Firstly I noticed same names of pencils, than I compared them. I suggest you - try it 🙂
@karin77657 ай бұрын
I bought 2 sets of these consisting of some lose colors to decide which one I like most. I wish I hadn't for I have fallen in love with the colors of both sets. They are soooo freaking beautiful..!!I have the Polychromos and maybe their lightfast qualities of these are the best ( as they claim 80% have a LF1 bleu wool standard) but their colors feel a bit garish to me and some of their colors are a bit reluctant to be laid down on paper. But yeah if you want the best color pencils in the world you should have both sets. They one I have are both so stunning 😍! Maybe the Luminence is just a bit easier to put down?
@marie-qz7ol2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this unbiased comparison. I do love caran d'ashe products. Im not surprised by the results, but the derwent packaging is very nice!
@anitawaclawik42862 жыл бұрын
I have both sets & love them both. I use the two sets together in pictures. I enjoyed this testing youtube video & the various aspects of the pencils.
@PursuingHeaven2 жыл бұрын
I really love Luminance, especially for skin tones. I feel they are easier to use than Lightfast for portrait work, especially when I first started, but now I can use both properly but I "get there" faster with Luminance. I have to do a reverse rule of thirds whenever I use ANY oil dominant pencil like Lightfast (and even Poly Chromos) to get the best gradient transition. Meaning I start with the darkest tone first, then go mid-tone then go light and at the seams of the tonal transition I "scuff together" to blur the layer. Lightfast are more dominate oil so I do not find that they "blend" as well as Luminance but that might just be the way I do it. I noticed you did not use a OMS test. I love using OMS with Luminance. It works with Lightfast, but for me not quite as well as Luminance. Both are wonderful, but I love my Luminance best, but maybe it is just because they are one of the first pencil sets I bought and I got spoiled with them. As a rule I use them together, much like I use my Poly Chromos and Prisma together. I lay down my oil dominate pencils first and then I top layer with my waxier pencils. BTW the crumbs never bother me. I just sweep them away with a make up brush.
@majbrittnilsson34422 жыл бұрын
What is a OMS test.? 🤪
@dthomp062 жыл бұрын
I second that question. What is OMS?
@PursuingHeaven2 жыл бұрын
@@majbrittnilsson3442 Odorless Mineral Spirits
@PursuingHeaven2 жыл бұрын
@@dthomp06 Odorless Mineral Spirits
@beuvelain2 жыл бұрын
Lightfast are transparent and make better details. Luminance are more creamy and opaque. Lightfast have some great clean colors but I definitely prefer Luminance for the kind of painterly work I do.
@anitaferrand80462 жыл бұрын
Love watching and learning
@Nyssieelise2 жыл бұрын
I always love these but can never afford the price tag but they are my absolute favourites
@daelite692 жыл бұрын
I bought both sets from Cultpens in the UK and they were shipped to the US within a week. Watch for sales there.
@juanalubian63552 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@mamacita00242 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this!!
@ronaldcallahan22012 жыл бұрын
What an amazing wonderful giveaway. You 2 are also amazing. Loved watching the nitpicky comparison. I would love to see a comparison of the luminance against the polychromos. Thanks again for the chance to enter your giveaway.
@irenecallahan65182 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered how the luminance would feel like. Thank you for the chance to win these beautiful pencils. You and Steve are awesome. I love your videos and you are so thorough that I really trust your judgment. Thank you so much.
@RachelHendersonColouring2 жыл бұрын
I have some lightfast but no luminance so this was very interesting, thank you
@tammycolorstoo2 жыл бұрын
Excited to see this and thanks so much for the new score card page. Love your videos. but I admit I'm a lurker, not a commenter, for the most part. Thanks for the giveaway!! So exciting!
@tommiesmith89252 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I always learn something that I didn’t know before. You are a good 👍 teacher.👍👍💕
@marjoriewinston82752 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I've been trying to figure out which set to get. I think it's going to be Luminance.
@kimvalentino11252 жыл бұрын
That was a very interesting and informative test thanks
@marytesta30032 жыл бұрын
Your price difference is the wood box. This was a great review. I like when apples are compared to apples. My eyes could see why a professional artist might own both sets. It seems like Derwent colors are more earthy for landscapes for example wher CD appear more vibrant.BTW I'm just a hobbyist so my description might be off.
@veystone25802 жыл бұрын
I had my alarm on! Hehe
@lindaraser42782 жыл бұрын
I like this type of review. I do have a suggestion for you to try sometime in the future. Instead of printing out 2 separate pages, how out printing the test on both sides of the paper? That way you can't misplace them ... ie keep the test results on just one sheet of paper.
@joysimmons22242 жыл бұрын
@@lindaraser4278 The indentations on the back of each page would skew the results
@kciNjr17_Portrait.Artworks2 жыл бұрын
OMG...my favorite 2 brand of Color Pencils That I dreamed of
@donnaboyle6692 жыл бұрын
First, love the color of your hair. Found the comparison very educational. It seems to be preference, and price. If you don’t have a comparison like you did, you wouldn’t know. Enjoyed watching, your voice is very comfortable. Thank you. 🐾🌻🐾
@TravisBrady-wn8frАй бұрын
I'm torn. I can either get the full set of polychromos or luminance. From your test I think I want the luminance. Thanks for helping.
@GilluindilG2 жыл бұрын
I might be a little bit biased towards the Luminance pencils (the bestestest pensils in the world for me), but I actually don't like wooden boxes. Most of the time I am not keeping my pencils in their boxes, but when I do, I prefer sturdy cardboard over anything else. I simply don't have enough space to store something as big and heavy as the Derwent box. And if you'd just throw away the packaging, I feel like the cardboard is more easy on the environment. It would be great if you could choose if you want the wooden box or not and that would possibly mean the full set of Derwents would be a bit cheaper as well.
@Bassbarbie2 жыл бұрын
I think they also do them in a tin here in the UK
@gailschulte16252 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I learn so much from your videos. Thank you.
@kyphih15862 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I really like what you said about you wouldn't be disappointed with either one. It's all so subjective when it comes to using them. I'm a Derwent girlio all the way! I use the Procolour, Lightfast, and Coloursoft all together along with my Prismas and a few Holbein. Many people would faint if they saw my storage system. lol
@loesgijsbers96012 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Both beautiful pencils 😍 Thanks for the give-away, I am sure somebody is going to be extremely happy with the luminance pencils! Good luck everybody🍀
@anthossotnya5770 Жыл бұрын
Epic review and super helpful as I'm preparing to transition to lightfast pencils now! To add my nitpicky-ness, the Derwent wooden box joint is a finger joint, not dovetail (referring to your unboxing video). 😮😅
@Chrisduran712 жыл бұрын
I do have fingers crossed to win these as I don't have a professional set of pencils yet.
@ninaanns72262 жыл бұрын
I thought that Caran d’Ache would be miles above anything else so was surprised to see the Lightfast set was so close. I’ve always been someone who just sees a set of pencils, a quick check on feedback and then buy (sets nowhere near this quality & price), then they’d arrive, I’d try them out and be quite disappointed. Watching you has made me realise there is so much more to colouring pencils. Like everybody else, would be amazing to win. Really appreciate your channel and the chance to win amazing pencils that would never be able to afford otherwise. Good luck to everyone 💕
@awarren062 жыл бұрын
very good work lucky lady! I’m trying to decide and this has helped. What’s interesting is my few open stock luminance has metallic writing I had to write on the pencil what it was because I could not read it! Happy the big box isn’t metallic!
@desireebryant36582 жыл бұрын
Great comparison
@CORNALSDAUGHTER2 жыл бұрын
If these two are the best…what about comparing them to you favorite?
@christinaslankard30922 жыл бұрын
I really truly hope to win this awesome giveaway you're doing. You guys are so amazing for doing such giveaways like these. 💜💜
@crazy4colors5342 жыл бұрын
Sending good luck wishes your way (but secretly I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a win also- 😆😋🥰). I agree with your comment as well. Steve and Jennifer have the best colorist and tutorial channel out there FOR SURE!!!! 💕
@christinaslankard30922 жыл бұрын
@@crazy4colors534 will also be sending lucks your way as well! 😍
@hansendesigns4 ай бұрын
I think the luminance is brighter because it may contain some colors that are less lightfast.
@marygrace1002 жыл бұрын
The super dark lightfasts are great if you like shading botanicals. I picked them up open stock.
@LourdesEsmeralda2 жыл бұрын
I loveeeeeee DERWENT, I use my polychromos quite often but my Derwent are my favourite !
@siag71072 жыл бұрын
I don´t understand one thing - comparing the thickness of the core and saying, that you can get more colouring, if the core is thicker. I don´t think so - because for colouring I use only sharp tip, not the whole core. Most of the core is lost due to sharpennig. Don´t you think so?
@margwong84162 жыл бұрын
I agree! Not enough commenters point this out. I've seen some comments from other artists that say it really wastes the pencils to have to sharpen them to a point all the time. They say it is not necessary, and I concur. So, the size of the core is only an advantage if it is not sharpened away constantly.
@DorisSK2 жыл бұрын
Great information!
@joangee24232 жыл бұрын
Great comparison.
@monicaleanos58742 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!!!
@grahamekellermeier8280 Жыл бұрын
Just priced the Derwent lightfast pencils basically the same price as the Caran de arche pencils.
@priyashah0072 жыл бұрын
Caran D'Ache on the black alcohol marker looks great. Would love to try doing a piece with them on a black paper! Thank you for the generous giveaway
@marasfineart2 жыл бұрын
Great review!!!!👍👍👍
@peteinuk2 жыл бұрын
I still prefer the lightfast! Simply because I prefer muted colours.
@loveandlife42222 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! I am not surprised that caran dache won. They are the best you can buy along with faber castell. I think you should compare the luminance against the polychromos. Also a comparison of caran dache museum aquarelle against faber castell albrecht durer watercolor pencils would be amazing too!