The Dead Don't Die - How to Ruin The Audience's Investment

[@grouchingtiger]

How many movies have you written?

[@LUMOSHROOM]

None. Nor have I engineered a plane or built a bridge; but I know what it looks like when one doesn't work.

[@grouchingtiger]

@@LUMOSHROOM but you feel confident telling engineers and architects how to do their jobs...

[@LUMOSHROOM]

@@grouchingtiger Not really. But do I feel confident in my ability to review a crashed plane and, with research and references, explain why it crashed.

[@reljasaurus]

i have a feeling you liked this movie. can u tell me why? or are you not competent enough to say because you haven't written any movies?

[@blackbirdfilms1966]

You're better off going to christ stuckman post madam web

[@jaceg810]

I once heard an very fitting quite that went something like: "nothing abstract stands when all things material are rubble"

[@DarkWolf326]

Me personally, I went to see a comedy and got a pretentious lecture about how I'm a mindless consumeristic zombie. Avoiding this director like the plague for wasting 2 hours of my life.

[@mrmusickhimself]

What's worse, is I came into this film AS a Jim Jarmusch fan (grew up loving Ghost Dog, Dead Man etc.), and even then, I found it to be a boring, pretentious slog with no rewatch value. Just a total waste of talent, which I guess was "the message" in the first place. Jokes on me. Tee hee.

[@featherguardian6023]

After watching this Movie on Netflix I felt nothing

[@aaronstanley6914]

I hate this movie with a passion. Watched advertising of it that made it look like zombieland (a comedy) and highlighting bill Murray (a very good comdian). Got tickets to see it in theater and ended up with a shit show and a dissatisfied and upset family. Haven't bothered going to a theater since.

[@TwistedTeaRex]

Same exact reaction I had.

[@JackMeolf]

The movie felt different while I watched it thought it was gonna be somewhat serious but after they mentioned the “script” I gave up on trying to piece the film together

[@truefilm6991]

Really great stuff. The meta self referencing horror movie (not to be confused with parody) might have started with the 1994 movie Wes Craven's New Nightmare and Scream (1996). Of course these movies didn't fold back on themselves, but referenced to other movies of the same genre or with the same writers/characters/actors. I think that might be the key. As long as you keep the references slightly outside and you maintain stakes and a narrative structure, you avoid a positive feedback loop, which in physics lead to self destruction of a given system. As soon as you spell out: "We are in a movie, we know it and we don't even care", you press the self destruction button, since nothing matters and the whole movie is meaningless.

[@ericsmith1508]

I just watched Dead Don't Die last night, and was confused. This morning I had an epiphany; what of it was supposed to saying that movies with a message are hollow and hard to invest in emotionally? I found this video searching "Dead Don't Die" and having watched it i am convinced that I'm right. The point is not the "message". I think this movie is meant to show how hollow and disappointing movies with "messages" really are. Even if you agree with the message, you still want a movie to serve the story first and let the message (if there even is a deeper one) be subtle. I think his deeper message is that "deep" movies are actually quite hollow. Even this movie was made hollow and unentertaining to emphasize that point! THIS movie, with its deeper meaning, about how hollow "deep" movies are, was very hollow! It's really very brilliant if that is in fact what is going on. If, however, it actually is meant to be truly "deep" about climate change and consumerism and right-wing politics, then it's just a steaming pile that was an absolute waste of my time watching last night!

[@LUMOSHROOM]

I think Jarmusch wanted to eat his cake and have it too - making a film that simultaneously tried to comment on current issues and be a subversive comedy, and failed at both. I would be interested in hearing if your take changes with time, since all this film has garnered from me over the years is increased apathy.

[@ericsmith1508]

@LUMOSHROOM oh I feel certain I will grow far more apathetic towards it over time. Whatever it was meant to be, and whatever it actually turned out to be, it was NOT worth a re-watch from me! 😆 Once was more than enough. I will say though, of all the unanswered questions this film left me with, the one that may actually haunt me enough to try and find an answer for is: was Adam Driver intentionally channeling Christopher Walken in the scene at the dinner or was it accidental? When he's telling "Cliff" he thinks it's zombies did it, the vocal cadence and inflections are an almost perfect Walken!😂 "You know...what I'm thinking? ...ZOMBIES. Yeah...ghouls. Ya know? The undead"😉😁

[@JasonJason210]

I think this the right interpretation, especially when you consider the scene near the end where the two main characters discuss the movie script. However, I think it doesn't quite work and that this approach is going to be lost on most of the audience

[@axios4702]

I think you are thinking too deep about it.

[@Sophnar0747]

Recently discovered your channel, you deserve waaaaaay more views and subs. This is that good sh!t. Great work.

[@GiovanniDeluxxe]

10k soon. Surprised you don’t have 100K. Analysis is insane. Good writing too and you’re great oh the mic. ‼️🤌

[@esmepipkin6087]

The zombies feel like a facebook boomer meme

[@tyrone-hz9wu]

You’re such an underrated channel keep up the good work

[@augiechiavuzzi4907]

It was a movie that set up to be funny and good but literally just was a here social and political commentary so the critics will like it that is all

[@Anfmethodjor]

@16:37 It's not pronounced R.Z.A., it's "Rizza."

[@JackMeolf]

Wu-tang 4EVA

[@jiggycalzone8585]

If wes Anderson made a zombie movie but instead of a plot it just meanders for 90 minutes until it just sort of ends

[@jonathanhansen1222]

My wife and I randomly chose this movie to watch last night. We knew nothing about it ahead of time. During this slow & strange film, we both kept looking at each other with confused faces, trying to figure out what the point of it was. The tone was so strange & off-putting - was it supposed to be serious or comedic? It seemed like the director attempted to do both, mixed with vague analogies & messaging. It was super slow, uninteresting, pretentious & just didn’t work. Film production & effects were good. The actors were fine and performed well. It’s just too bad they didn’t have better material overall.

[@planttreessmoketrees7456]

I rewatched No Country For Old Men and I just realized that actor Caleb Jones is in both movies. He is Bobby Wiggins in The Dead Don't Die and at the end of No Country For Old Men he is one of the kids that approaches Anton Chigurh after the car accident. He is the one that says "Mister, you got a bone sticking out of your arm."

[@regina72]

your eyes wide shut case study was amazing! can you do mulhulland drive or the shining next? thanks!

[@zhjohnson]

Just wanna say i love all your content and Keep up the good work #subscribed

[@liamliam5341]

This was a horrible movie in everyway.

[@lewislewis3531]

The script feels like a first draft. I did, oddly enough, enjoy Murray and Driver's anti-chemistry. They'd actually be fantastic secondary characters in a Remedy game or something more outlandish

[@AnonymousAnonposter]

I tried to enjoy this film, even part of humor and scenes can be actually my type of stuff depending of my mood, but it's indeed and pretentious and subversive swallow experience trying to appeal midwits.

[@larsbrewer1621]

I know this is kind of stupid, but, the girl with the long blonde hair really reminds me of the alien from jjba part 4. Or at least, looks like the alien

[@D-Fens_1632]

I'd rather go to Jolly Pirate Donuts and take a 2 hour shit than watch this movie again.

[@KneelB4Bacon]

If you're expecting "Shaun of the Dead" you're going to be really disappointed. The writers couldn't figure out a tone for this movie. Is it a comedy? A drama? It's very slow paced, the gore is graphic and the jokes are awful.

[@charleswind8298]

Only 20 minutes in and I’m done.

[@robertcarpenter3020]

Yep

[@dionysus6892]

It's so... toothless. If feels like commentary done simply cause the director wanted to make a movie where he said what he wanted to say, and nothing else. I enjoy The Dead Don't Die because I admire it's clear desire to do nothing. It feels like it was deliberately set out to disappoint, and then everything else fell into place to disappoint around the planned disappointments. Even by luck it didn't have a single element that did well. Its rolling a nat 1 of movies.

[@jorgevespucci9878]

That movie was an absolute pile of dog crap. 😂😂😂

[@Arminius420]

So many questions and zero answers that's what I got from this movie. lol

[@axios4702]

Watched this with my mother. Was already iffy about it going in with the ham fisted environmental message. Like, I'm anti-fracking myself, let alone polar fracking, but they took it too far and without any style, came across as preaching. When we realized it had been 45 minutes and exactly 2 people had died to zombies in a Bill Murray zombie movie, we quit and spent the afternoon watching something else. How did such a boring B-class movie get that many high level actors and why did they waste them in quiet, uncomfortable and boring chit chat?

[@DMB414034]

You don’t say!!! That was the entire movie. You’re in on it 😢😂

[@eastinnvibe]

The meaning of this movie was real asf !

[@jayff0000]

A movie so bad I needed to lookup a video like this to commiserate afterwords. Simply pointing out that we are destroying the climate & comparing our materialism to zombies isn't enough to be interesting. I guess the most interesting part of the meta commentary is under reacting to dire circumstances - but even that feels shallow and obvious. Going into the movie my expectation was horror comedy, so I wasn't expecting it to take itself too seriously, but the closest it got to comedy was Adam Driver in smart car or the fashion zombie, and even then it only reached slight amusement. Just a huge let down all around.

[@bftvclips8925]

Seems like a Paul W S Anderson zombie movie. Everyone in his movies are always monotone

[@briansinger5258]

Wait...What's the worst Cohen Brothers Film?

[@alexd9909]

RZA is pronounced “Rizza”, not “R.Z.A.” Like why SZA is “Sizza”. He’s from Wu-Tang Clan, that’s why his van is Wu-something with the symbol. Maybe you know that and were joking, idk.

[@billlee1821]

great video but my dude really called RZA R Z A 💀

[@twitchell2682]

I may have wasted 2hrs. But all the(stars) people that worked on this for weeks and months knowing it was garbage...bill, Bill, Bill. Did you sign wo realizing who the director was again? What good is a message when we loose interest and turn it off?

[@cartiisblack]

Almost everyone who says in the comments that the movie was trash is missing the whole point lmaooo

[@LUMOSHROOM]

Please enlighten us.

[@cartiisblack]

@ It was satire from what I could tell, not much to enlighten just thought it was a pretty good movie.

[@hotcofi2969]

I really enjoy this movie but also im a pretentious dickbag so my opinion is without value

[@clairestark9024]

It reminds if the film funny games were the message was presumed to justify the film in off itself. Neither made me think because id already considered what films mesage was before i saw it and dug a lot deeper. Yes mindless consumerism is bad-and? Plus im still bored watching this.

[@kchortu]

I think you need to read about nihilism, cynicism and stoicism and how they play with consumerism and performance activism. The whole point is that nothing you do matters as we are all mindless zombies and even if you are self aware you are just going to get overrun by those who are lost to the going through the motions.

[@LUMOSHROOM]

@@kchortu Or you could just explain how nihilism, cynicism and stoicism play with consumerism and performance activism; instead of encouraging me to research vague philosophical literature.

[@BlueT1000]

Points are fine, but I still want to be entertained

[@user-we5it3jk9u]

Just because you add philosophical references and correlate them with this movie, does not add any more depth to it. The movie just wasn’t good

[@1badjesus]

Good analyis BUT similar to critique of film's length 99% of THIS video is supervulous. You repeat same observations multiple times just different words. If 4-5 min MAX you'd have 100,000 views.. not 3,778.. sorry 3,779 after 3 years.

[@grousewithakeyboard]

I liked it

[@lenasvisionyoutube]

I loved it, it was so strange and unique

[@syrenitif8399]

This movie was terrible

[@haha-kq6rz]

You've never seen a Jim Jarmusch film?

[@tombkings6279]

I've watched and... wtf 😂 this movie was so shit.

[@unoriginaledits82]

Too long didnt watch

[@jorgevespucci9878]

Calling Gomez "eye candy" is hilarious... Shes a solid 5 and people just have low standards 😂😂😂.

[@Aratakenn]

😐

[@TheMicCheck]

missed the point

[@jamesmary8953]

Elaborate on it, child. :)

[@Kelper30000]

Is this one of those pages that cry about “everything being woke”?

[@lollobello]

Well, you just don't understand cinema. Nothing serious, don't worry.

[@AndrewChumKaser]

Please enlighten us, oh noble one with your insight. Clearly, you are of a different caliber in these matters.

[@jamesmary8953]

@@AndrewChumKaser He's incapable of doing so. Just another troll looking to get a reaction out of whoever. XD

[@Interdacted]

Felt like a slow burn. Where not even the actors where having fun.