'LORENA ' Ladies & Love Songs of the Civil War Tom Roush

[@hortagent5687]

I am so terribly sorry to read of Mr. Tom Roush's passing. I really like his voice and way he used it when he sang. It may be a modern arrangement but he both preserves and honors its past as well. This photographic accompaniment of the of the song was the one I first experienced on his channel when it was there and the one I like best, though both this and the one now on his channel are great. I've been listening to Tom's recording of this song on KZbin for years and in fact sometimes would listen to it before I left the office each day. it is a hauntingly beautiful song that echoes down through the last one and a half centuries since the Civil War. it captures the emotions, conflicts and sensibilities of America at that time. Seeing the photos only adds to that effect. In their poses and faces, you can see that though we share many common human traits with people down through the centuries, these photos capture a people right on the edge of the truly modern world. Given the invention of photography, their ideas about what constituted day to day society was partly in the future yet trying to pull itself out of a very different and more slowly changing past. Thanks to photography and this song, we can discover that these are not the people of this time as they are depicted in movies but they are very different. I imagine if we had photos of people who lived in antiquity or the Renaissance, we would see how their upbringing and culture caused them to be so different from us today. Rest in peace, Mr. Roush. Thank you for your music. I wish I had contacted you over the years to give you my compliments. With your rendition, you've ruined everyone else's version of "Lorena" for me and I am completely happy about that...👍✌🙏 www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/thestokesnews/name/thomas-roush-obituary?id=23945002

[@Lumotaku]

Thank you for that :) He was truly a great singer and guy.

[@donmcneil8285]

Rip 🪦 sir!

[@nbenefiel]

They banned this song during the Civil War because it made the boys so homesick.

[@Lumotaku]

I heard that several times but they said the same thing about Iilli marlene in world war 2.

[@Nieuport28C]

What a beautiful ballad and arrangement! It hits me in the heart and soul every time I hear it. Does anyone know who the lovely woman is who appears at :29, :46 and 3:40 in wedding finery? Perhaps a relative of Mr. Roush (RIP)?

[@Lumotaku]

He said he used stock images when he made the video. I am glad you like it's also my favorite song of the time.

[@AJ-lk6gg]

Thank you for sharing this lovely song. I was sad to learn of Tom Roush's passing. I wondered if you have his CDs "Songs of Our Heritage" or Patchwork"? These compilations are no longer available (aside from several tracks on Tom's KZbin page) and I'd love to hear more of his if you're able to make videos of some of these songs.

[@Lumotaku]

Sorry I just posted these for him when his hard drive crashed and left them up.

[@AJ-lk6gg]

@@Lumotaku That's OK, thank you for replying. I became a fan of Tom Roush a little too late. I bought all of his CDs which are still available and have been trying to find the rest of his songs which are not. While I haven't been able to find the full tracks to listen to yet, I have found out what the playlists were. "Patchwork" had 13 songs (six of which are on Tom's Page) and "Songs of Our Heritage" featured 12 songs (again 6 of these are on Tom's KZbin). There are also three songs from the CD "Americana" which I haven't been able to find in full just yet, but I'll keep looking.

[@jimwheeler4482]

The lyrics of the song "Lorena" were written in 1856 by Rev. Henry D. L. Webster. “Lorena” has remained a popular song ever since. An instrumental version appears in the 1939 film "Gone With The Wind". John Ford used it twice; first in the 1956 western “The Searchers” and again in the movie “The Horse Soldiers”, in 1959. In an episode of the TV series “Lonesome Dove” “Lorena” is played on a saloon piano as Gus McCrae lies dying. The tune is used in the saloon scene near the beginning of “Cowboys & Aliens” (2012), being played on fiddle. The saloon keeper tells the fiddler that it is too melancholy and asks him to play a different tune. Near the end of the movie, the piano player plays an upbeat version, and the people dance to it in celebration of their victory over the aliens. Webster wrote it years after his fiancée, Ella Blocksom, ended their engagement. It is said that Webster wrote the poem in an attempt to ease his sorrow over her leaving him. In order to keep her name private, he changed the name to "Bertha". Rev. Webster was the minister at the Universalist Church in Zanesville, Ohio. Miss Blocksom attended Webster’s church. She and Reverend Webster fell in love. Her brother-in-law was a very rich man and a prominent citizen of Zanesvillle. He saw the engagement as an embarrassment to his social position and did not want his sister-in-law to marry a poor preacher. He managed to convince Ella to break off the engagement. Saddened by this turn of events, Rev. Webster quit preaching and left Zanesville. While living elsewhere, Rev. Webster met a music composer named J. P. Webster (no relation) who was looking for lyrics to his most recent composition. Rev. Webster showed J. P. the poem he had just completed and the song was born. There was one change to be made, however. J. P. Webster’s tune needed 3 syllables for the name. That’s when “Bertha” became “Lorena”. Some music historians think that the name ‘Lorena’ was in reference to "Lenore" from Edgar Allan Poe's poem "The Raven." The song was published in 1857 by Higgins Brothers of Chicago and soon was among the most popular songs in America. During the American Civil War, whenever soldiers on both sides heard the song, they most certainly thought of their wives and girlfriends back home. One Confederate officer even attributed the South's defeat to the song. He reasoned that upon hearing the mournful ballad the soldiers grew so homesick that they lost their effectiveness as a fighting force.

[@Eazy-ERyder]

I heartily love and truly feel this classic about missing a distant wife or girlfriend - AND so did soldiers on BOTH sides of the civil war as well as civilians everywhere else across the country. When I hear it I picture myself residing very realistically in that sensitive Victorian-era period of time. In the HERE and NOW Sometimes I seemingly find myself living a life of the past from back THEN; when in a heavily deep slumber though, I dream up these elaborately deep, multi-hour ALL Nighters that show me a life I wished in earnest was in the mid-19th century past.

[@ritajones7584]

General hood retreating from Atlanta some of the men struck up this song , before the city was burned imagine walking along with those men... Heart renching.

[@MGTOWPaladin]

The same Yankee hero, William Tecumseh Sherman, took his finelt-honed skill from Georgia to the western Plains where he put buffaloes and Indians on the endangered species list! Beginning in the late 1860s, he organized the killing of some 5 million bison in an effort to drive the creatures to the brink of extinction. Sherman continued his harsh policies after becoming commanding general of the army in 1869, and by the 1870s, he had helped force most of the Plains peoples onto reservations. In 1867, following a fierce Indian assault led by the Lakota Chief Crazy Horse, Sherman said, "we must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women, and children." And one year later he issued an order permitting the Sioux's "utter annihilation." DEO VINDICE!

[@ryanrussell3571]

​@@MGTOWPaladinyet he stopped the south from the crimes against blacks!! Sometimes brutality is the only way to stop a war from getting worse! His attack on Georgia was necessary and even the Confederates understood this as they gave up (most of them deserting their own army)! And there weren't buffalo in the south that is a plains thing which is mostly Midwest!

[@MGTOWPaladin]

@ryanrussell3571 You couldn't get more slanted if you tried! 1. The Importation of slaves was made illegal on 1 January 1808. Yet, the Yankee (New England) Slave Trade continued into Lincoln's administration. Some of the South owned slaves but the North was still outfitting slave shios, buying, selling, and shipping slaves throughout the Americas ILLEGALLY into the 1860s. Can you say hypocrites? 2. Lincoln said his war was about FORCING the collection of REVENUE TAX MONEY from 13 free, independent, and sovereign nations that freely and legally seceded from the Union. 3. Two of Lincoln's generals, John Charles Frèmont of Missouri and David Hunter of the Southeast, issued Emacipation edicts on August 30, 1861, and 9 May 1862, respectively. Lincoln rescinded the Missouri edict on 2 Novmber, 1861, removed Frèmont from position, and charged him with INSUBORDINATION! Hunter was written up in Lincoln's Presidential Proclamation NO 90, on 19 May 1862. The edict was VOIDED and Lincoln said it was due to a "misunderstanding!" IN TOTAL, Lincoln returned BLACKS TO SLAVERY in the FOUR STATES of Missouri, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina by a SINGLE SIGNATURE on two documents. 4. Lincoln invaded the South ENSLAVING 13 Stares that freely and legally seceded. And, in his words, he did it for REVENUE TAX MONEY in almost a DOZEN separate documents. The first two were issued in the two weeks following Ft Sumter. Lincoln's Presidential Proclamations 81 and 82 on 19 and 27 April 1861. PROC.# 81: "Whereas an insurrection against the Government of the United States has broken out in the States of South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas, and the laws of the United States FOR THE COLLECTION OF THE REVENUE (TAX MONEY) can not be effectually executed therein conformably to that provision of the Constitution which requires DUTIES (REVENUE TAX MONEY) to be uniform throughout the United States; and......" PROC.# 82: "Whereas, for the reasons assigned in my proclamation of the 19th instant, a blockade of the ports of the States of South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Texas was ordered to be established; and, Whereas since that date public property of the United States has been seized, THE COLLECTION OF THE REVENUE (TAX MONEY) OBSTRUCTED,..... In case you don't know this, Lincoln wanted blacks out of the US and told them so AT THE WHITE HOUSE. Here's his speech! slavenorth.com/cw/lincoln.htm So, please stop with your "slavery BS lies" that Lincoln's very own document disprove, including his "laughable" Emancipation Proclamation. Lincoln's Presidential Proclamation NO. 95, also called the Emancipation Proclamation. "That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in *REBELLION* against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free;......" Lincoln illegally declared emancipation *ONLY* in the following locations, with exceptions, in his Proclamation: "Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana, *(EXCEPT* the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New Orleans) Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Virginia, *(EXCEPT* the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkley, Accomac, Northampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Ann, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth), and which *EXCEPTED* parts, are for the present, left precisely as if this0 proclamation were not issued." *NOTE:* Does Lincoln release any of the estimated 1 million slaves still held in the Union States? *NO!* Does he release any slaves in the Union Territories? *NO!* Does he release any slaves held in Indian reservations or territories? *NO!* Did he release any slaves in the Southern Border States of Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri? *NO!* Does he release any slaves in the Southern state of West Virginia? *NO!* Does he release any slaves in the Confederate State of Tennessee? *NO!* Does he release slaves in select counties/parishes of the Confederate States of Virginia and Louisiana? *NO!* Did Linoln have any Constitutional authority to free slaves in the Union? *NO!* Did he have any authority to free slaves in a foreign country (CSA)? *NO!* LINCOLN ON SECESSION: Abraham Lincoln, US Congressman, 12 January 1848 on the floor of the US House of Representatives: "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the RIGHT to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and for a new one that suits them better. *THIS IS A MOST VALUABLE, - A MOST SACRED RIGHT - a RIGHT,* which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this RIGHT confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it." Lincoln's VERY OWN DOCUMENTS are the BEST PROOF his invasion of the South was unconstitutional, illegal, and traitorous as he violated the Constitution CONTINOUSLY! There is more if you want it!

[@stanleygibson1257]

The ones who win the war write the history. Truth has a way of hanging around

[@gayludington682]

Beautiful presentation - - I love your performances.

[@tutsybassista]

42 years and I now find this! 😳 My dad named me after this song (but, I have an extra "N")! I remember hearing this in "Titanic." I couldn't find this cuz I was looking at World War 2 instead of The Civil War! Damn, I'm now crying! 😂

[@Lumotaku]

yes if your name is lilli marlene then your set for world war 2 but Lorena is the 1850s.

[@tutsybassista]

@@Lumotaku Mine is Lorenna Maye, but my dad gave mine 2 "N's" instead of 1. It's pronounced the same though.

[@Michael-wy2iz]

Why am i crying?

[@conniebee5]

This song touches my heart so deeply...I just love it. I can't describe the feelings that it gives me and I'm not sure exactly why. But why question it...just enjoy the tears falling.

[@Lumotaku]

one of the prettiest songs from back then to be sure.

[@antonkomel9337]

the same

[@Lorena-to2qz]

I finally found a song with my name in it. I Love it!

[@Lumotaku]

It truly is a beautiful under used name

[@ricardorao2012]

dont be cocky. it was another lorena.

[@lorinakay]

My partner is called lorina.

[@Luis_Facil]

That's my sister's name and my tía

[@Lorena-to2qz]

Ricardo Henrique Rao an ass always exists

[@paulinus43ad]

Still love this rendition so much. bloody fantastic , Aussie slang

[@stanorr377]

Another great and wonderful performance of this old and wonderful story, Thanks again Tom ,best wishes Stan Orr.

[@MrOystein1977]

One of the most beautiful ballads ever written.. A song with a maiden name wich both sides of the civil war listened and sang to, to cheer them up... 80 years later "Lill Marlene," another maiden name was a song wich both sides listened to..

[@Lumotaku]

yes and well meet again

[@rogerwilson9361]

Cw Tbird everyone is missing the point it not about Lorena but of a soldier, cowboy or someone lonesome ding or ding on the battle to never see his beloved once more and not saying those words I love you or be able building a live with her. Songs are most of the time poems put to music for example the Star Spangled Banner was poem put to music it was a British Army drinking song and music was put to the Star Spangled Banner.

[@Lumotaku]

@@rogerwilson9361 Lorena isnt a song from war time though. This song is definitley about a girl named lorena. Also its an original tune not based on any previous music. "Lorena" was based on the lyricist's love for a Zanesville, Ohio girl named Ella Blocksom" She broke their engagement and he changed the name of the girl from Ella to Bertha then Lorena.

[@EmiLori]

Love this song. Especially cuz my name is Lorena

[@Lumotaku]

A very pretty name indeed!

[@mariazeze2340]

Wonderful.Tom This is the better version on the KZbin !!!

[@video-tourist]

Awesome tune, thanks! Pictures are great, too!

[@terrencegurnee268]

lovely tune

[@ziggnutt1]

It is said that many civil war generals and general staff forbade their men to sing this song because it caused them to think about home so much that there were those that deserted to be with their loved ones. I can understand why,

[@user-zf7jn7yr7r]

There is no primary documentation or General Orders to this one of many Civil War myths.

[@andybricky1927]

A truely beautiful song but does anyone do the whole song, every time I click on a version there are some versions missing and I am disapointed. I found this song through The American Civil War episode 4. One of the commentators Picked up a Banjo and started singing, wish he had done the whole thing!

[@Northatlantic2012]

Outstanding.

[@mariaceliaantunes]

I liked of this music

[@Lumotaku]

This is one of the prettiest tunes ever made and an excellent version of it too.

[@donaldgriffiths7833]

beughtifull

[@likebarden]

甘酸っぱく美しい🎶　好きになってドキドキ、胸が熱くなってた少年時代を思い出すよ　もはや６０年も前のこと　　どうしてるかな～

[@Lumotaku]

I am only able to use Google translate but I think I understand what you are trying to convey :)

[@likebarden]

I can only use Google, but I understand your sentences　　Foster is gentle and loving affection I'm listening to it since I was a kid I am wonderful with special music Is not race or country involved🎶

[@Lumotaku]

I love sakura from japan and also the theme from Space battleship yamato

[@likebarden]

ｙｏｕ　know a lot of things　 ｙｏｕ interested in Japan　 Sakura is beautiful

[@corrocot1]

Such good looking women.

[@davidkahil5158]

1:43 I believe that is george a custer though I am not certain

[@rogerwilson9361]

This song Lorena were song and played on both sides of Civil War more men deserted because of this song on both the Union and Confederate sides can see why it makes you want to be with the one you love.

[@Lumotaku]

yes there are reports that it was banned but the same thing was said of lilli Marlene doing world war 2

[@rogerwilson9361]

Yes she did make the German's home sick but was later in the war in which the German soldiers real felt the need to go home for they began to believe the war was lost when allies had a foot hold in Western Europe.

[@Lumotaku]

not at all both sides were getting homesick from it during the african campaign

[@Lumotaku]

the british would tune in german radio and listen to it and when the germans heard that they made an english version

[@rogerwilson9361]

I sorry what I was meaning to say that both sides did listen and made them homesick but it hit the German hard when they felt the war was over the want to go home.

[@donaldshrvock4157]

if you listen closely you can sing love me tender

[@Lumotaku]

but the original is so much better

[@Lumotaku]

i cant hear love me tender in this because that song is called Aura lee.

[@tutsybassista]

Love me tender represents my initials! LMT 😁

[@zoecampbell9028]

Thumbnail woman looks like the early version of a bad bitty.

[@jimmywalker1568]

A hundred mouths have past and he is still alive one lucky son of a bitch he must be in the rear ranks

[@Lumotaku]

The song is actually from the 1850s it was just really popular during the war.

[@jimmywalker1568]

Thanks from the thick Irish Scot

[@Lumotaku]

No problem glad you enjoy the song All credit to Tom Roush He does an excellent job on this.

[@jimmywalker1568]

Could call this the worn out right hand song or left

[@KINGSOWN100]

Months

[@ryanrussell3571]

Beautiful song and the south understood they would lose at the moment!