LUNA or GIN? Don't Worry Too Much About It | Summoners War 10 Year Anniversary Hall of Heroes Event

[@et2792]

luna: as soon as light amazon existed, luna was pointless. gin: as soon as gin existed, gin was pointless. just historic reality.

[@pedro.h3706]

The only difference is that luna have perfect AI

[@letrunghieu4299]

I don't think you actually understand luna's value lol she has perfect AI, which to this moment, is still the most valuable thing in PvE

[@et2792]

@@letrunghieu4299 i've had luna since before the original vote-HOH in question. she is ok. her CD is long on s3 (mentioned by seanb) and that means your entire team needs perfect execution, or you need insane runes (also as mentioned by seanb). there are other monsters with worse AI that contribute much more overall team (therefore run) stability. this has always been the case. light amazon had big damage on 2 skills.

[@loliprotectionteam]

I still vote for gin, those leader skill can pump up teon/light rat for lushen. He just standing there with 3 set of fight runes 😂😂

[@handle7940]

@@et2792 But will use S1 twice in a row in some runs while S2/S3 are up lol

[@Pudgelicious]

I excitedly picked Luna thinking she is the miracle unit for gbah speed teams, only for me to realize that my teshar is garbage after trying her out

[@SeanBGames]

😂 bird not fat enough

[@martinlutherkingsize]

Play with 2 garuda teshar omonculus, you can go fight on the garuda the requirements are lower

[@Flow_121]

I mean tesh doesnt have to be that fat, actually shouldnt since he shouldnt oneshot the 2nd trashwave. Mine is around +2400 atk I think and 235 or 240 cd or so, on 67cr thats pretty achievable. Luna does need good runes tho to oneshot, or good artis ar least

[@sasukey1490]

Always funny to watch a recommodation Video as an Endgame player where SeanB tells us at the end "Why are you even here" :D

[@SeanBGames]

Exactly. 😂

[@PenBeast]

@@SeanBGames Ideal Video: You and another KZbinr/friend do RTA. Each of you guys have to have an Unrune Monster(6 ⭐ lv 40) and the mission is protect your unrune monster or kill your opponent UM. Whoever kill the UM of the opponent is the winner. Do the best of 5 and each round the UM have to be different

[@mattigut]

Man I was just thinking about who to pick and then this video pops up. SeanB saves the day yet again!

[@SeanBGames]

Don't worry too much about it! One is not way better than the other tbh

[@martinlutherkingsize]

Gin can be play in rta as a one shot unit after vanessa ? I think if you play things like tablo or eshir or other drafts like idkn vanessa sonia zen eshir gin it may work

[@red_dll]

I finished Luna's b10 yesterday only to realize today that I also don't have a light ninja.. would have liked to have him for light Harg and Lushen.

[@Youmargames]

I know this is unrelated but i hope Seanb upvote this issue, hope com2us will notice. Labyrinth's reward seems like it needs improvement. Idk why, Labyrinth's rewards feels lacking, especially if compared to Monster Subjugation. Labyrinth : - Need all guild member to cooperate together, and make a route as efficient as possible to find all the Bosses. - It goes for 2-3+ days, depending on your guild member cooperation, reset every 2 weeks. - Reward : Only give 7 random box for SSS, and 5 guild point for each stage victory. Nothing else. Monster Subjugation : - Only need all member to attack each stage, only consist of 4 stages including the boss. - Only need 1 day to finish, reset every week. - Doesn't need strategy or making route or whatever, just attack, simple. - Reward : Receive up to 47 (?) random box, 100 Crystal, 400 Guild Point, and lots of Manastone from the stages. For those who always do Guild content, and in an Active Guild, What do you guys think of these?

[@nicholasgrossman3194]

I wish..

[@puckeringpickletoe3459]

It's me, I also voted for Gin.

[@SeanBGames]

I hated u 😂

[@creeeamy7133]

Originally I was very excited to pull Luna because I could finally pull off one of those crazy speed teams. Then I remembered that was Pre-Abyssal and now I have no use for a second Luna because C2U have done their best to stop Tricaru esque teams from ever resurfacing.

[@blanknaruto1127]

Gin on despair is good for TOA for beginners. Especially with his third skill if you use him and light succubus it’ll definitely make things easier for new players doing TOA and TOA hard imo.

[@samballard8774]

Tyron would replace both though

[@blanknaruto1127]

@@samballard8774 true but all 3 would be good on the same team for control especially that aoe glancing/stun

[@SeanBGames]

that can help out :D

[@madeformario]

They did Gin s3 absolutely dirty when they released dark chun-li

[@Pian588]

Basically comes down to whomever you don't have. Neither are really used anymore.

[@CamTsoi]

You could use 5 gins 5 dova 5 lushens now.

[@SeanBGames]

True

[@SeanBGames]

@@CamTsoi10 years in i have 0 Dova 😂

[@CamTsoi]

Same, just wait for the HoH to appear =)@@SeanBGames

[@JioVega]

I wish gins s3 has speed scaling

[@Jpisop4real]

i agree with this

[@SeanBGames]

I wish Gin has a passive s3 at this point

[@Jpisop4real]

not a bad idea to be honest@@SeanBGames

[@JMSX_]

needed this video yesterday

[@SeanBGames]

but i didn't have Luna yesterday haha

[@JMSX_]

@@SeanBGames ah damn, but dw still appreciate the info on everything and where to use luna

[@Paulitzer2040]

does konamiya need to be very fast in Giant Abyss?

[@TniaS0]

Yeah well I picked Luna then use her instead of Lyn in GBAH and kinda disappoint about the dmg output tho even tho I still not max skill 3 the dmg is only like 100k which is worst than a 3star unit tho so I wanna see if you can bring something out of her. Thx for the vid

[@thiagopieri8074]

do you do any form of coaching on video or twitch? i came back to the game after 5 years and i have a decent amount of units but i could use some help building the most efficients farm teams!

[@SeanBGames]

every single efficient or fast teams are available for free on youtube with runes build just do a bit of searching and you will find everything u need

[@andreismael1995]

I loved the Hood when talking about Light ninja. Lol

[@infamouswolf6655]

i wish the strip chance for gin s3 was higher. Like 70-80% chance instead of a measly 50%. Or they could make it to where the strip has a chance of activating on both hits

[@sadfasdfdfasf5372]

Won't happen, people where choosing on the value of those units if they buffed him to have a useful skill people who didn't pick him up because he's garbage will get furious and would've chosen I'm instead

[@Jasper-f7q]

I have a light dokkaebi, do you think that would work better than a Deborah?

[@nachocoxgaming5954]

Use with deb and Luna can 1 shot boss

[@GolDQueso]

I got the spd lead, dont have any use for luna at all

[@nalzkieios8171]

Hello! I’ve been playing this game for years but I’ve still yet to understand how to rune my account, do you think you can help?

[@Zoodie234]

There's literally 100s of video explaining runes. You've been playing for "years" and you're still lost? I don't think this game is for you then, not to be mean but if you've been playing for years AND WATCH TONS OF OTHER RUNE VIDEOS and you're still lost then Sean probably won't be able to help you then.

[@Birdleyyt]

bro there no way i was 2 weeks late, i just came back to the game after a year. rip me , i liked speed teams with good ai

[@Ytremz]

Luna is a trophy unit for most long term players. There are far better options than her nowadays for dungeon famrmng.

[@rdyenpuah6701]

Any mon that can replace teshar in the giant team?

[@YueYukii]

If i recall correctly, wind ifrit

[@izmizzle]

Wind ifrit akhamamir is not as fast but still good.

[@joshberger7980]

I wasn't happy with the vote for light ninja either! Been waiting a while for her!

[@NicoLuna95]

I think seiishizo is using julie shaina luna kayle liam in dragon abyss. No Kona for se second kayle turn but you have her double turn instead

[@SeanBGames]

yeah because his Julie is absolutely stacked also his Kyle

[@NicoLuna95]

@@SeanBGames his Luna too. I took her from the hoh, and got hit by reality check that the rune requirements for they team are insane

[@ogio1601]

Luna not using s3 is not insta loss, teshar usually survives and finishes it off - or if boss doesn't crit luna she can just go again

[@eLsain]

Luna is good if you want to build 100cr teshar for other pve contents cause u can't let teshar one shot the 2nd crystal wave in order to regain luna s3 back. You need +290cd +2k atk with good artifact in order to one shot mid boss with luna

[@MYusa-ys5uy]

Whats ur fking points?

[@gohan723super3]

Definitely went gin whats not to like about a ninja 🎉did feed him and recently got him back and also summoned luna lol

[@robbydkiller]

Could u show me the build for gb

[@diluc1611]

Can u play a Luna team without teshar?

[@SeanBGames]

at that point Shaman is just as good

[@moresezer8680]

That hoodie is fire! Where did u get it?

[@SeanBGames]

Its uniqlo dry ex hoodie

[@moresezer8680]

@@SeanBGames

[@christopherfiore6820]

Stalling at b8 with my twins. Now seeking a team to complete the HoH.

[@M4Klee]

Go as if of was toah then

[@oliviertourail4639]

Gin is just a worse Susano. They got the same skill1 and skill2, where both deal really good damage but then Susano got better turn cycling and better tanking capacity thanks to the anti-crit, and Gin got a skill3 that cannot even be relied on. I wish they buff Gin's skill3, at least increasing the activation rate...

[@keenbaltazar558]

Now im so Conflicted whether to choose Teshar than Zibala on the event summons demmit

[@Feziel]

teshar 100%

[@SeanBGames]

Do you have runes for Teshar? if yes then Teshar is amazing

[@keenbaltazar558]

@@SeanBGames I do haha and for zibala too haha. I want both ugh

[@robertshaw1361]

I already had luna so light ninja for my light harg

[@frozensea3945]

I took Luna just cause I don't have her. Anyways on my alt I use the wind one in giants and works just fine if anyone needs it

[@ivonjr1980]

Gin is pretty good for light SL teams

[@Panek3]

I had to choose Luna because I didn't have it in the collection book. 😂

[@coukexcouke7151]

I have both now 😊

[@danart941]

I have both UwU, never got my luna from hoh tho, i summoned her

[@xibexs]

Goodbye Com2us, goodbye seanb, no LND for 7yrs.....Will be back for free LnD5🤣🤣🤣

[@mostakahmed5787]

I have better team for all the scenario this heroes fit, so whatever. My Giant abyss:Liam+wind barb+sonia+ wind homu+wind pixie awakened(what was her name again?!!) don't think it will go any faster with dark pierret. I took the ninja because of his leader skill.

[@patrickatilano2014]

My gb and db abyss teams are pretty stable already. Not that fast but stable. So i tjink gin it is for me.

[@cloudnyle2385]

Luna is an instant pick.. jin is more for late game players with more runes.. luckily i already had Jin

[@vincentvercauteren4710]

Not true tho. Gin is perfect as leaderskill for a Teon/Dova comp with lushen. This allows to easily cleave siege defs with a mediocre, fat lushen. Gin doesn't even need good runes, even some white fight runes will make him viable. Luna, as proven by Sean here, is not an efficient pick.

[@Joseph-zh7fm]

Where would you use Luna?

[@BlackSun90]

@@vincentvercauteren4710no gin takes a back seat to mihyang. Luna is the only option if you do not already have her

[@vincentvercauteren4710]

I prefer using Gin cuz better lead, and use Mihyang in a different team. There's no either/or if u can use both in more optimized teams.@@BlackSun90

[@BlackSun90]

@@vincentvercauteren47102% difference in a lead is negligible whenit comes to offense her kit overall being a better damage support to clean up and fix derps. Lushen hard to use now days. You can’t really use it reliably without a dova or dark string. Who both do not need gin to work. But if you wanted to ignore you have a f2p option that performs equal to better go gin

[@shirowolf5876]

Since i already have both of them, I picked th wind undine instead to skillup their light and dark counterpart

[@rickymorales795]

just to correct you sir. luna will have s3 on main boss. even if she uses it on mini boss

[@SeanBGames]

Huh mine doesnt and its maxed skill

[@rickymorales795]

@@SeanBGames not sure how i can send you a vid but pretty sure mine does 😅

[@Larkian]

@@rickymorales795 only way to do that it's if you intentionally setup your Teshar to not do so much damage so he doesn't kill the 3rd golem in wave 3 so Luna get to move or if you use Julie to setup Wind Ezio/Steel Commander so it always use S3 on waves and it reduce the Luna cooldown.

[@xpiesboss1003]

thx ♥

[@StoteFarus]

I pick Luna for pokedex purposes. They all suck nowadays.

[@YueYukii]

The practicallity of gin in pvp is almost zero. Luna although the pve meta teams has evolved to not needing her who knows if someone concoc a new team with her or a new pve content is created (for ex a new abyss boss).

[@Pablo-qh5eb]

Julie lushen prilea luna homu (120,86,-,60 54) it's safe than teshar team because prilea s3 can be resit, and 50% time she use s3/s2

[@joshuawatjen8863]

@@Pablo-qh5eb your suggested team isnt working at all, Luna is getting cut, even tho Lushen and Prilea are at the exact same speed on Tick 7 + she wont kill midboss with S3 / S2 combination

[@Pablo-qh5eb]

@@joshuawatjen8863 homu kill miniboss moving last i Say Julie 120 lush 86 prilea X luna 60 luna 60 homu 54

[@Pablo-qh5eb]

@@joshuawatjen8863 btw no, u don't getting cut

[@Pablo-qh5eb]

@@joshuawatjen8863 btw here is another for dragón :Julie 120 shaina 86 luna 60 luna 60 Kyle 52 Liam 52 too i think

[@dodomannmann9957]

I have a not strong lushen, but i have 2 mirinae, so there is no way i will ever take Gin

[@arthurandreuegger2018]

so you saying a new player can do guild pvp but cant use luna? i dont get it, gin is only for a minmax 2% spd, id allways pick luna tbh not like an early game needs that 2% spd, they aint outspeeding anyways and if they are they would with the 28 aswell, the vid is great as allways tho =) i just think luna is better cause shes got a real purpose later in game and they will eventually get there and kind of need her for a better team, i was at that point and got her like a month ago, and swapping from lyn to her made it much more consistent on the average time, in the other hand ive been having gin for years and i still use him very rarely on siege but i usually just use on of the 20 miyangs that do a better job

[@arthurandreuegger2018]

btw im not ultra hyper end game as you said, i just have a full legend rune set on her and she works, no ancients, no maxxed out quads, justa pretty good set that i think most dedicated players can get, of course the people that farm 10 runs a day may not ever get to that point but they wont do anything really seriously in the game anyways(nothing wrong on that, everyone has the right to just pokedex and farm scenario) ive been allways f2p btw 0 cents spent, just gotta farm your refills and keep grinding

[@SeanBGames]

my beginner account will probably not see any Mihyang/ Khmun / Carcano in a long time so Gin can definitely help. What's Luna good for in guild pvp? You have 20 Mihyangs meaning everyone has 20 mihyangs? lol Every team on my beginner's account is already as fast as they could be. Luna makes absolutely no difference in any of them. Also Lyn is just terrible in general when Shaman can do the same thing with 2 turn CD. You been using Lyn so of course Luna seem like an upgrade.

[@adrianoquadros]

You'll be getting light orion soon

[@MilyonMilSoraka]

I picked luna just because i lose farming gb abbys

[@SeanBGames]

whats your farming team? :D

[@MilyonMilSoraka]

I was trying to write i love farming gb abbys lol Actualy im a beginner im focusing on dragon right now im using your db abbys hard team on your beginner series

[@izmizzle]

Here's to hoping i upgrade my team with akhamamir soon.

[@az5129]

i was angry to when they didn't pick Luna. e_e

[@bennewton7555]

I don't use deborah here

[@trendylj5412]

266 cd Luna op SeanB 😅

[@Jpisop4real]

seanb skill up that mihyang please

[@SeanBGames]

Thats my 5th one so i ran out of skill up 😂

[@Jpisop4real]

oh okay wasn't sure im trying to skill up yeonhong currently@@SeanBGames

[@PenBeast]

ideal: You and another KZbin/friend do RTA. and both have to have a unrune monster,

[@jofephclimber3104]

HOLY SHIT 166K DAMAGE GAWD DAMN

[@clowofgrife]

Hate it, litelarry got all other mons but the only two i miss are in the same rotation

[@angelomedeiros493]

i picked luna

[@MYusa-ys5uy]

F u sean, i was watching ur last video about hoh event, and you kinda choose luna, i pick luna immediately, and i already finish it. 😂😂

[@SeanBGames]

I did say Luna because I didn't have her lol Not like you are missing out on much not choosing Gin lmao

[@MYusa-ys5uy]

@@SeanBGames hahaha its fine tho, even if i take gin i dont have the runes for him. Keep up the great video sean, lit up🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@infernuslux9662]

They are useless, just get what you dont have. As a pokedex

[@astrocity891]

gin here🎉🎉

[@Flow_121]

Seeaaan what are u doing in gb12. You havent even shown the best team man. Best team is with luna and homu, but luna moves first, and then teshar doesnt kill 1 golem in the waves. Its a sub 30 second average perfect ai team that doesnt fail... sooo why not show it xD

[@GoldenHellcat]

English pls

[@AMV_KINGDOM_mv]

Luna end of story if you wanna do endgame pvp and still hoping to pull lyn then luna Edit:saw the video through yeh I still don't got light griffon or archer so Luna for the win

[@SeanBGames]

what end game pvp ?