Luocha trying to become Otto..

[@cen3684]

i can't get over on how well written this guy is - he is such a despicable human, yet you cant help but sympathize with his dedication and ambition

[@lrc3847]

He is like Nox from Wakfu, he tried to recover the someone who loved in the past... it was his family.

[@duckymate9555]

In his path of sin he did save a number of people’s lives

[@amadeus8343]

Tbh, he did try to be the hero Kallen wanted to be. He saved and helped a lot people, but one day he realized it's not enough to fill the gaping hole in his heart, which is why he started looking for ways to revive Kallen and the rest is history. I won't say he's a good person, but I won't say he's evil as well. Such a complex character

[@Chuy1029]

​@@amadeus8343He's more of an anti-hero, doing good and bad things at the same time

[@hianghaochan9639]

Becuz we all deep down knew that if we were in his shoes we would do anything in order to bring the one and only her back

[@VergiliusSkyverse]

I feel like luocha is basically otto without excessive obsession to revive kallen and basically trying to enjoy life while traveling to many places

[@Spazza1081]

but he IS trying to revive someone

[@amarilistheodore9156]

@@Spazza1081 he did but gave up i think

[@Spazza1081]

@@amarilistheodore9156 i mean why else would he be carrying around a coffin, although whatever's in there clearly isn't human so ig. anyway i'm very behind in the story so i wouldn't know.

[@amarilistheodore9156]

@Slesee I don't know too. I still at Xianzhou Luofu part 1 though

[@bl00by_]

We don't know what he did before the luofu, he might've nuked multiple planets in good old Otto style. lol Gotta treat the geneva convention like a check list.

[@AipMercury]

As they said, life is too long to end at the grave...

[@asukaujing]

But will your night bring a dream that relentlessly keeps you awake before your own grave?

[@tirworks7311]

A eulogy, it seems to be..

[@LunarFTW]

A drop of water is enough, I reckon

[@trustme8497]

But, i still wish😢

[@Kennyyyeah]

I do wish to embrace the world with my thoughts

[@flamingvictory]

I just honestly want Luocha not to be evil, if he is the hsr equivalent to Otto, I want him to be happy, knowing what Otto has done, though I hate him, it also makes me want him to have a happy ending. Knowing hoyo, this clowns gonna suffer no matter what. Just let this fucker be happy.

[@asosikkun]

Frrrr

[@naomikirisaki]

i mean... hoyo been granted the himeko dreams... have some faith.

[@ambassadorofbadtaste]

About that...

[@flamingvictory]

yeah, i know, but he doesnt seem that bad, i hope@@ambassadorofbadtaste

[@Nokyyyyy]

​@@flamingvictory he looka like a morally grey character. One who would do a lot to achieve his goals but not exactly hurting anyone to do so

[@bia5141]

I feel like Otto and Luocha are two side of the same coin. Luocha feels like a person Otto could have become without Kalen and his family..But we shall see

[@nathanael9159]

Indeed.

[@heilamwether8911]

I think Loucha is prob what Otto would’ve ended up as if he didn’t obsessed with Kallen, or thought “I should do some fucked up shit to humanity.” To get what he needed to try to change fate.. So far, Otto seems to have taken a different fate in this world then his original fate in HI3, but that brings up another question and concern: *who took Otto’s original path.* And if it ends up being a worst answer, we might be in it big time…

[@Daorangecontroller]

Otto would've suicided without Kallen im pretty sure

[@5_marvelrinaldi621]

@@heilamwether8911If the Otto here is a Kallen, I’ll scream

[@sensha5470]

“The world allows a mind to find another matching vessel” MIHOYO I SWEAR TO THE FINALITY IF LUOCHA IS JUST REBORN OTTO I will be hyped

[@Daorangecontroller]

lmao "TO THE FINALITY"

[@Spazza1081]

i feel like Luocha is Otto's atonement arc

[@dadian803]

It's their take of Seven Swords Otto. Let's see if Otto will move on.

[@stevenking_1110]

I also feel like Luocha resembles Father Otto from chap 11 (or maybe 14 idk) of HI3

[@HeyYouFromThatGame]

​@@stevenking_1110chap 11

[@Spazza1081]

@@stevenking_1110 ah yes simp-sama

[@yami7509]

Not really luocha is resembles Otto from second eruption where he carried coffin around to find jingwei fu hua

[@archerdamo9160]

This aged like milk...Hes Otto

[@mimi2114-l6i]

Ssh

[@naomikirisaki]

he simp so hard that wait for 500 years to change the past. bro i love him so bad

[@ainsley6874]

bro same here. im too down bad for him that cant even get over this omg. i badly wishes that luocha somehow have relevance to otto 😭

[@noname-lb3sg]

That will be his third time in trying to destroy the world and the way he protect the little girl feel kinda similar to the way kallen die trying to protect the other little girl from the honkai

[@Proxy606]

Bro pulled off a Walter white But seriously this man may be the biggest freaking simp in the world but at least he’s able to accomplish something with that dedication

[@browngorilla9468]

I hope they do not bring anyone back from the dead. that would kinda destroy the entire meaning of Otto's arc

[@BLAZE_RIDER]

What do you mean? It not destroy anything :/

[@tirworks7311]

fun fax in the end of Otto’s arc, he brings back someone(you know who it is) from the death but it just happens to be in another universe, you cannot stop this man from doing what he wants, not even the writers can.

[@Setzen_Kreig]

Actually... Theresa has Kallen's soul, but it's not her, the vessel for the soul can't have the memories or act live the past Kallen. Just like Kasumi has Sakura's soul, but it's not her from memory base... And them... Sirin, that was split into two, but they only knows memories of her because of the memories in the Serenity Gem and Core of the Void, if not because of that, they would know shit about their past lives. Otto's right, the soul dissipates, but later go after a new vessel, but the vessel can't have the memories of the past life. So it's not the same person. Same as Herrscher of Corruption said to Kallen with Sakura's empty body... Her soul left a long ago, prior to Kasumi's awaken as her clone.

[@FlutterSwag]

it would make sense to cause him to continue to live as penance for his crimes

[@nequitia4665]

@@tirworks7311 who?

[@lizardwizard8930]

I want his coffin to have kallen soo bad.

[@Tilde_Shii]

I do not know Otto much so I'm assuming Kallen is his lover of some sort. I don't want that. I want it to be someone else and Kallen is just somewhere still living in HSR till they both meet.

[@izzyyheree]

They most likely won't go in that direction considering how many people who don't play Hi3 would be incredibly confused about a reveal like that, especially if theres no build up. It would be too much fanservice for one section of the game, and we all know Hoyo likes to appeal to the masses lol

[@justinmmos7219]

​@@izzyyheree"too much fan service" Welt: so anyways I started creating a black hole out of nowhere along with a manga connecting both HSR and Hi3

[@izzyyheree]

@@justinmmos7219 LMAO I mean fair, but also you can understand Welt even without knowing Hi3, but I feel like if they threw Kallen in the coffin it would be very confusing to a lot of people who haven't played Hi3, especially if its revealed in his companion mission on the 28th, as it would have no build up and wouldn't make sense

[@justinmmos7219]

@@izzyyheree actually it won't be as confusing as you might think it would be if they go with that route since they only need to built up some revelation bits by bits by doing a trailer and Jing Yuan's master being alive and becoming playable in the future is also one of the example they can pull for Kallen... And there's the majority of the fanbase where they prioritize hot characters over story lol

[@jerukkelabu]

Luocha Is not Otto, But i know his pain, Trailblazer oh Trailblazer... don't cry

[@App-8491]

I now understand him especially after firefly

[@blue_lux]

this aged poorly

[@twilightwolf6248]

Too much of the past for one to.. Memorise too many words remain for one too read through the lines...

[@adialdi3843]

The ebb and flow of the crowds... Flood the world... And paradise, along path of time...

[@twilightwolf6248]

@@adialdi3843 every night brings a dreammm but the day relentlessly keeps me awaake

[@jedennox3015]

​@@twilightwolf6248all the rest will be torn up whenever a choice is made

[@5_marvelrinaldi621]

EVERY LIVING SOUL IN THE FRAY…. STRIVING FOR THEIR OWN SAFE PLACE

[@igor_zombie]

When I see Locha, I see that you are Otto, don’t try to deny it!

[@DawnbrosFuzzy]

Haven't gather strong information yet to conclude the true identity of luocha but even if he is the reborn of otto then who care?? Like the plot amor carry entire plot in any Hoyoverse game, don't worried the mc will beat his ass until he fade in ash.

[@tyrkdlesath]

i hope he becomes otto and destroys half the honkai star rail cast, the comunity get pissed at him and then have an ending as amazing as honkai impact and everyone who hated him will cry at the end, and that would be so cool imagine luocha killing all the characters everyone likes the cry in the social media would be the best.

[@disunityholychaos7523]

dont you dare

[@funfactmaker4924]

That will be repetitive and become obvious how lazy the story would be,the community will get much more pissed than the otto problem

[@thetrueheiron1197]

Don't count me in that everyone. I still hate him and even when watching his short, I was praying for him to fail miserably. I would never cry for such a selfish person like him. Luocha is sus but doesn't seems like he will go to the evil route, he is probably a good guy.

[@funfactmaker4924]

@@thetrueheiron1197 true,he might been a seed planted by humanity itself but he still deserves to fucking die for his selfishness

[@bronyan6035]

nah hes still a piece of sht to me after seeing that cg

[@Crielity]

I wish they brought back kallen to hsr

[@KaiKaslana25]

I think they will... When, is the question

[@Aysuragi]

Hopefully they do, after all it’s a parallel universe, Himeko is alive in this game, there is a chance for Kalen too 😅

[@NarratorII]

They plan to. Kallen, Kevin Kaslana, Durandal, and Kiana are all leaked expy's. But we don't know anything about their designs or kits, just that they'll be characters at some point in the future.

[@2d-kun158]

@@NarratorII but don't forget yatta she already in some ingame text

[@chadikhr7258]

from the leaks they are adding raiden mei and sakura from honkai + we have welt as well so who said we won't get kalleen

[@Utakiman]

I believe loucha is not very different than otto, he may not be otto but he is probably a variation of otto of HSR universe, his kallen is might be dead in coffin, but as we see he wears the xianzho loufu type clothing, I guess his kallen is Mara struck, that is , she is dead but not dead at the same time, so the only way to save her, is kill yaoshi, as we see, he is along with jingliu to put abundance to its grave

[@imzag1697]

Welt: Peace was never an option

[@applyinggaming9529]

The lines are so sus, like when i heard him sayong stuff how the dead will return and shiz, i was lile "here we go again".

[@ASyarifZNst]

Otto (HI3) more have knowledge and he know that all kallen will dead and her soul never returned in every universe.... So, Otto (HI3) must break through the laws of Imaginary Tree and creating a new branch (universe) for kallen so she can living normally without Otto. Luocha (raksha/naive otto HSR) still young, premature and naive... He still believe dead souls can get back alive again with a power... He still don't know the reality but Otto (HI3) already know it that he (all of he in the universe) will cannot bring back Kallen and decide to create a new universe for Kallen so can getting a life normally.

[@inukaiversus]

Poor Katsura. Was isekai from Gintama to Honkai and had to live in suffering life.

[@wienerbeaner]

Trailblazer trying to become Otto

[@bggameplay6456]

did anyone notice the Regression references in the music of the trailer??? Like the ticking of a clock in the background supported wit the same notes of Regression?

[@vKAI-86]

"Let the past stay in the past." - Otto in Graduation Trip He probably does not want anyone to become like him anymore. He probably was telling Kiana, "When you outlive your loved ones, let them stay in the past. Do not become like me."

[@butterflycheese8453]

I don't feel anything when seeing Luocha but seeing Otto... I can feel my goosebumps 😭

[@zigazav1]

It's rather interesting Otto has a lifelink with Kallen from the past, in "Thus Spoke Apocalypse", which I assume is used as an analogy or metaphor for the fact finding a way to bring her back from the dead, was his sole reason to continue existing for 500 years, extending his time in the world of the living through Soulium body doubles, as long as it would take him to find an answer to his situation of Kallen, to bring her back from the death that he blames himself for, because it was indirectly his fault she died. In the end, Otto's only solution to undo Kallen's death, was to create another universe where her death never happened. Using Kiana to bring him closer to the Imaginary Tree by killing him, allowing him to get close enough to the Imaginary Tree, to manipulate it to "create a different outcome in the past" so that her death never happened in at least one universe. as much as I love Sirin, Otto Apocalypse is the best written villain in any form of fiction I've experienced. He uses none of the cookie-cutter villain tropes. Because of that, it feels like he's real and human, and not a character created solely for the purpose of a villain. Real life evil don't laugh maniacally as much as fictional villains, nor do they seek world domination nor worldly destruction. That's only something villains in fiction do. Otto feels so real to me, even though I know he's a fictional character, that I feel empathy for him. His reason for falling on the path of evil makes sense, and not a villain cookiecutter mold of "I'm evil for some petty reason in my past!", no, Otto's reason for evil is because he lost Kallen, the single light in the ever present darkness of his childhood, where nobody else was ever kind and compassionate to him. Not even his own family, who were a bunch of horrible people. Those reading this who want to take a jab at me for feeling empathy for such an evil person, try imagining yourself in Otto's shoes for a moment: If you were born in a family where literally everyone, were horrible people, but you found this one person, who actually was kind to you and was not seeking selfish gain by exploiting you, who you cared about more than anyone on earth, and then later in life she is sentenced to execution, but a horrible family member of yours gave you an option of causing chaos to allow her to safely escape, only for that very chaos to kill her because she gave her life to save someone being targeted by that very chaos of evil, and you blame her death on yourself because it was you who accepted letting in the chaos that in the end killed her, but then you felt there must be a way to undo her death, and you are given basically eternal life to give you time to seek that answer, what would you do? Would you accept your pain of losing her forever, your only light in the darkness? And forever bear the burden of self-guilt that it was your fault she was killed. Or would you fall on the path of evil, if it meant even a sliver of a chance to bring back to life that very light you had in the unyielding darkness of your life? Raiden Mei also had a similar situation. She was heavily oppressed by those around her. She was emotionally hurt her so bad, she was willing to jump off the roof of a building to die to escape that pain of emotional suffering. But, one girl reached out her arm to save her from the unyielding darkness that nearly took her life. Kiana Kaslana. Kiana, like what Kallen was to Otto, was the one light in the ever-suffocating darkness of her life at Chiba Academy. the two fell in love as a result. But, much later, Kiana was suffering from fatal Honkai corruption, that would kill her within a few months, with neither Schicksal nor Anti-Entropy, having an answer to save her. But then, World Serpent promised in exchange for saving Kiana's life, she'd have to join World Serpent. Of course, she accepted the deal. Because nobody else could save her glimmer of light in her life, and, in Raiden Mei's own words, a world without Kiana, means nothing to her. Raiden Mei at least had her classmates at St.Freya and her friends, to have true bonds with. And she did not forever side with evil because her moral compass was not broken. Otto didn't have that luxury, he had nobody to form strong bonds with in his childhood. And therefore, his moral compass was shattered after Kallen was killed because of a "favor" he accepted from a family member who never showed kindness to him ever. Blaming himself for what happened to her, and was willing to sacrifice anyone and anything, if it meant even a slight chance her death could be undone. Otto Apocalypse is how you write a villain CORRECTLY! A villain wrote to the point that although you can neither forgive nor justify what they did, but at the same time, feel emotional attachment and empathy for. He was the first full on villain I ever cried for the burden and tragedy he faced. My sense of justice usually does not allow me to feel emotional attachment to evil, but Otto is an exception. I know all too well the pain of grief of losing someone you care deeply about, and having the burden of blaming yourself for her death...even if you didn't kill her. This pain lingers in my heart so deeply, and I cannot bring myself to get over it...

[@smarke9999]

Those lines 0:04 really is something that otto would do

[@Hazel564]

if only Alaya existed in Hi3 he wouldnt have to do all evil things. and loucha is carrying a coffin possibly he is trying to find a way to revive someone if only Alaya/terminal is there.... but yeah theres no jyahnar to power it up so it will be useless

[@Darkwindyeti06]

Its just a canon event

[@ArsenFox]

Ah yes Mister-Lets-Destroy-A-Pantheon...

[@Arazu1803]

If there anyone who doesn't know, there's a secret cg and achievement about luocha being sus. He just standing there infront of the abrosial tree saying something like talking to the tree or..... To the aeon of abundance?

[@jtho8937]

It's a canon event

[@Crown1098]

imagine ... inside that coffin is kallen

[@hollowficate]

#OttoDidNothingWrong

[@snowpools8498]

Yeahhh.. no

[@5_marvelrinaldi621]

Luocha is basically Otto without the Honkai and his family BS He might’ve had a Kallen back home, but he ain’t obsessed So I can assume that Luocha is what could’ve been if Otto was good

[@shubhpatel619]

I wonder if we'll get a ebony darkness version of luocha

[@StigmataRealm09]

Then there's herrscher seele that Otto wanted to have

[@ins8957]

all this for kallen when she was in love with yae sakura, its almost sad

[@hadiibrahim3880]

Couldn't get a chance to play honkai impact but watched the animated shorts that featured him , I know she didn't love him and he gave up trying to get her love but didn't know about this , at least he was dedicated to bring her back

[@bloodbrothers6556]

@@hadiibrahim3880even playing the games, that story is beyond complicated. Going by the main story without any association with the open world, Kallen and Yae Sakura never even met. The open world is where the love story between Yae and Kallen happens. In the main story, Yae was long dead (over 50,000 years) before Kallen was even born. As for Otto, the two had met in the Honkai crusades in the 1500’s (also Otto is over 500 because he keeps stealing bodies and overriding them with his own) and, even though she never actually reciprocated his feelings as more than friends, he dedicated his life to save her after essentially being the end cause to her death (he released the Honkai beast that killed her).

[@hadiibrahim3880]

@@bloodbrothers6556 hmmm , yes it's complicated,good thing you told me this

[@everettjoseph6189]

​@@bloodbrothers6556 you're talking about SAKURA (all previous era[50000 years ago] that are counterparts in current era have their names as capital ergo dr MEI's name is like that) who is part of the flame chasers but is not in any way related to Yae Sakura who is born in the same era as kallen, otto, etc.

[@ins8957]

@@hadiibrahim3880 read the reply of the person who jus commented, its more complicated but sakura & kallen r canon.

[@bread5049]

I will never trust a person with this voice

[@softjytsu]

Ayato???

[@ASyarifZNst]

So, you don't believe Gaara?

[@mattheusspoo]

Then we find out kallen is in thw coffin luocha is carrying

[@koyasmak7878]

Luocha janai katsura da

[@veialyyad4816]

Otto in thw coffin dawg

[@Rui-mika-001]

Kallen kaslana is inside that coffin confirmed

[@justineayson3146]

but he is void arch

[@ilhamwf564]

Nope

[@vollied4865]

Luocha is otto 💀 bro cant read

[@rafiarkanantanaufal]

Luocha is another Otto:V

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

*5th iteration

[@mrniceguy8298]

Otto is so stupid that he never mention to try going back to time and convince kallen to abroad and fake the death of kallen. EDIT

[@PeaceEllen]

After the whole incident, he will never trust his past self. SO he must make sure the plan goes accordingly. He had to rely on his current self, to achieve the impossible. Giving her infinite possibilities, after all who was the one trying to stop him reaching the Tree? That's right, himself.

[@kirychan1226]

I know nothing about honkai, my gf wAS EXplaINING about otto and the cube that becomes that void archives guy as im watching this and im?? i want to play honkai now?? i like luocha already but wtf am i sEEING

[@Tayzzy-h2g]

Luocha feels like a slap in the face especially considering that he's an expy of Otto Apocalypse, arguably the one of the best written characters in HI3. Everything that Luocha is only serves to play second fiddle for some other characters. Mihoyo is banking too much on Otto's reputation just to use it to enrich anyone but Luocha.

[@nathanael9159]

🤡

[@Tayzzy-h2g]

@@nathanael9159I'm right thought, Mihoyo literally is trying to milk Otto's reputation to set up another character. Jingliu is a prime example.

[@ambassadorofbadtaste]

I guess they try to fuck around and find the way to make Otto be happy at least in one of their games GGZ Otto: 🗿🍷

[@rahmadahusada3944]

Its happening 😂

[@rawnoodleseater]

Man i am so tired of dealing with his ass

[@WorldLore1543]

Can anyone explain who this otto guys is. He's not welt right?

[@zhargus69]

Nope

[@ASyarifZNst]

He is a "Welt PTSD".... Haha...

[@merumeru_]

welt's boyfriend

[@PowerMiner]

a religious cult leader

[@Tristanmagma]

the best hi3 antagonist and a big simp

[@tyrkdlesath]

in the universe of star rail maybe they can come back, after all it is a different universe and the aeon of abundance can give eternal life it can even reverse death, who knows?

[@abdurehmanmalik2980]

It's the same Universe though, Star Rail makes it clear that Welt's homeworld is just another world like the Luofu and Jarillo-VI.

[@applyinggaming9529]

I think i know what part of the companion quest the reply is talking about, but i got confused there because he could be using world to refer as in a whole entire universe but he doesn't want to reveal it completely. He never used any examples like the luofu and belebog, if i recall correctly it was very generalized and used the word world for the most part in an explanation the same one we know from honkai but we are used to hearing the word"universe" instead of world.

[@abdurehmanmalik2980]

@@applyinggaming9529 On the Express (I forget the exact moment), he says his home planet is not CURRENTLY on the Express' route, meaning it used to be or is going to be in the future, meaning it is on the Star Rail.

[@subscribeburntrivers]

I’d pull Luocha anyway Otto’s story is nicely written ✨😍

[@idiotnonexistent]

we have one (or two) luocha/otto in genshin

[@I_want_to_eat_salmon126]

1.52 and becom to sumeru

[@I_want_to_eat_salmon126]

Ermensurl

[@ponos8632]

Yggdrasil