2021 Bowtech SOLUTION Bow Battle: SD vs SS vs Solution

[@nellietolb420]

Coolest reviews on the tube. And I can't speak for the rest of us but personally I appreciate the honest and non judgemental opinions. Nobody likes a pitch man.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you Nelson. I really appreciate it.

[@billybobb1448]

Fantastic review and incredibly helpful! Shooting at 27"/55#, I've been thinking SD. But given the minimal speed difference and the smoother still draw of the SS, looks like I will be shooting it against the Hoyt Ventum 30. Thanks again for all the great information you offer to the bow community.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, I had that same thought, the more I looked at it.

[@joshuawooledge6945]

Always enjoy all of your reviews. I haven't shot any of the new Bowtechs yet but like you said I'm still in love with my SR6 so i don't think i will be changing this year. Great job!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks Joshua.

[@zackg8129]

I really enjoy your reviews they are right to the point and full of details. They are really helpful I am in the process of looking for a new bow. Just subscribed!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you Zack. I really appreciate it.

[@olehemlock]

Another nicely done review. Thanks for all the work you put into it.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Much appreciated!

[@davidhoward7691]

I bought the Bowtech BT-X 28 when it came out because it gave me the best performance and feel for my 27" draw. I have never looked back. I'm glad Bowtech is still making premium level 28" cams for us T-Rex armed guys.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Haha. Amen to that. Thanks David.

[@faceinthecrowd5810]

I’m a first time bow buyer, I bought my friends old bowtech carbon icon last fall and feels like I got really lucky to have out of all the products out there I shoot a bowtech.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, they've been doing very well recently. Great choice.

[@texasforever3.025]

Those carbon risers are great for for the money

[@rodneyhendrixson7557]

Just bought the SD Wednesday, 28.5" set at 57lbs on the 60lb version. Shot it for about 2 hours yesterday. Easy to tune, my broadheads are flying as good if not better than field points out to 60 yards. Looking forward to October 1st

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Very good to hear!

[@emmax60]

Awesome review Lusk , i love my SR6 it's my favorite bow of all time but that Solution SS is winking at me tks

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you. I feel similarly.

[@robl8343]

Really well done. Would like to see more bow reviews. Hoyt Ventum and Prime Nexus 4 are two bows gaining attention this year.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you. I'm wanting to do those as well. It's been really hard to get new bows into the local shop here. But I've got the Ventum and V3 lined up for next week.

[@문크-w7f]

best review among that i 've seen.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you!

[@darnellwatkins4031]

I just picked up the SS yesterday. Good review.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Oh nice. Great choice.

[@it_is_finished]

Awesome job as always man. Thank you!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you James.

[@ppha7665]

Great review....at lot of new reviews have been excluding the SD.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you.

[@kylergiroux2831]

just ordered my SS. cant wait

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Cool. I'd love to know how you like it.

[@kylergiroux2831]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures oh boi have I got a story for you if your interested still in hearing it. Not a good experience so far. Believe I got a lemon seeing if I can get a refund or new bow rn.

[@plram3054]

Great review! Thank you sir

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you!

[@axtonpayton1852]

i realize it is kinda off topic but does anybody know a good website to watch new series online ?

[@krewbeckham5133]

@Axton Payton I use FlixZone. You can find it on google =)

[@jadenace2936]

@Axton Payton lately I have been using Flixzone. Just google for it :)

[@l00nybin]

Great review, especially since I'm in the same boat that you are with a T-Rex DL of 27". Please do more bow reviews, perhaps with 2 or 3 different arrow weights - one lighter, one heavier?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you. I have an entire playlist on my channel of bow tests. But these are the first of 2021, due to Covid. I did also test these at 70 lbs and with a 460 gr arrow.

[@greghurdle4021]

Would really love to see the numbers with the heavier arrows @ 70 lbs

[@TheSpeyfisher]

Thanks John for your opinion. I'm with you, I also shoot my sr6 bow and love it. I'm now looking at the s.s. bow! Since I live here in Oregon and 1 hour away from Bowtech, I'm fortunate to try different bows. Perhaps one day you can do a video in Bowtech? Again thanks and God bless.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks Michael. I'd love to do a vid there one day. Just picked up my new CP28 this week. Loving it.

[@TheSpeyfisher]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures enjoy and keep up the great work!!!!!!!

[@critter852004]

I love the SD. I shot the SD and the V3 27. The SD was way less aggressive and easier to draw. I’m in the same boat as you, short draw but at 70lbs so naturally the SD appealed to me.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Good to hear. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

[@myronriggs9613]

Wonderful

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you

[@Pooleh08]

I'm lucky enough to live less than an hour from the factory. I shot the SS and the Solution today and they were both great shots. I personally loved the Solution as the difference between the 2 felt very minimal and the speed was just insane compared to the 15 year old Diamond Justice I'm currently shooting. I've got my order in for a Solution with a Smoke Gray riser and the Altitude camo on the limbs(I hope looks as cool as I'm thinking it will). I've never owned a brand new bow and I am beyond excited to start shooting it!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

That's great. Thanks for sharing that.

[@GBBLGBL]

REALLY shocked at that minimal speed difference between the SD and the SS. My LH SD is arriving this week so I am excited to set it up. I ordered that just because in the past with all my other Bowtechs my speed has suffered at my draw length of 26.5". I even skipped buying the Revolt last year just because my Realm from the year before was really slow at 26.5"/60#. Plus, it's not like your arrow weight choice (385 g) was really heavy and caused that to suffer. Actually, 375 to 420 g should be the sweet spot for that set up. I was thinking the SD should have been 10-12 fps faster than the SS. I do have to say though, I had the opportunity to set up my wife's EVA GEN 2 recently (it's actually the exact same bow as the SD) and that Dead Lock Technology is just incredible to fine tune the set up!! It literally tuned in five minutes!! Thanks again for your reviews.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I thought the same thing, Steve. It's making me like the SS.

[@germanandreu1472]

Nice test just wat i was looking for just saved me $1300.00 THANK YOU

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Well I'm glad to hear that. Thank you for watching.

[@craigdwyer3069]

Great review as always. What flagship bows did u like this year?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I have not tested many yet, due to Covid and the varying release dates and mail problems. Hopefully I can do more in the upcoming days. So far, I liked the Solution SS the best of the new ones.

[@pahuntnut]

i subed, Im shoot 60lbs and have a 27 in draw. Real world reviews and its not just about speed.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Very good. Thank you!

[@sandman9379]

Great video! How do they compare to the Revolt X? I’ve been using my Bowtech Diamond Black Ice since 2010. I love it but I’m due for an upgrade. Should I go with the Revolt X or one of the three in the vid? I care about comfort and precision.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I really like the Revolt X...but these have their advantages as well. Just compare the specs and see what works best for you...then try them out. They're all good.

[@sikhbhavikh3232]

Good review.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks!

[@stevecrader3479]

And my "Solution" is my SR6 moves to backup as my new Solution becomes the primary. Ha Ha Ha Good vid and I really appreciate the side by side comparison

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Good deal. Glad it's working well for you. Great bows.

[@johngarnergarner6724]

excellent reviews as always. I have been shooting a Bowtech Invasion for years and am looking for a reason to buy something new. And I shoot 27 1/2 draw length. I like the shootability of these bows. But am I wrong in observing that they are nowhere close to their IBO speed ratings?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Well, I believe they are on target with their IBO ratings, but of course the speed is different at my draw length and with the arrows I used.

[@GBBLGBL]

I borrowed an SS yesterday and did a speed test with my SD. I had to drop the draw weight of the stock SS from 62.6 down to exactly 60# to match my SD. Both bows were set at 27”. There was a 10 fps difference between the two with the SD being faster. Just like publicized chart showing the Solution, the SS, the SD, the SR6 and the Revolt. Are you sure BOTH bows were set to the exact same draw weight in your test? Others have stated they also are seeing 8-10 fps between these two. My SD and the one in your test were IDENTICAL speed with the same weight arrow. Maybe your SS was “pulling a little hot” just like I found with the one I checked? One other thing to add is I actually prefer the draw of the SD over the SS and especially prefer the back wall of the SD. It’s much firmer and the draw length between the two feels about 1/4” different with the SS feeling a touch longer.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing that Steve. The bows were set up identically. Not sure why it came out that way.

[@chickimac1]

That subalpine looks sick!

[@chickimac1]

Or awesome!!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, it's nice.

[@jaxsonsingleton7568]

Awesome review, I think I'm getting the solution just for the fact it has a longer ata as a first time shooter I want something more forgiving

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep. Good choice.

[@TheJapagu]

I don’t think you could go wrong between the solution or the SS model. I just got the ss and I’m loving it.

[@hamartime17]

John, I love your content brother! I love the people at bowtech, but I gotta be honest, too much composite (plastic) used in important areas of the Bow. If they could work and evolve with the clutch grip, I'd like them better as well. I'm not hating on em, just not confident enough IMHO. I've been waiting for reviews from you!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you Dan. I used to shy away from Bowtech cause of all I heard about them blowing up in the past. But man, they have proven to be really nice lately. I've used my SR6 on some brutal hunts--from the Montana backcountry to the African savannah...and it's performed like a champ.

[@ryancaswell2712]

Are you going to review the new expeditions?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I'd like to...but the local shop isn't carrying them any more and not sure if I can make the 2+ hr drive to a shop that does.

[@strixoutdoors]

Thx for the review! Were you drawing the solution on the performance or comfort setting? If like my Reign 6, the comfort setting will make it feel like you have to push the bow to get it to let down. Curious if it’s the same.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I shot them on both, but in this test they were on Performance. My SR6 has that same characteristic...it's due to the cam. As I commented in this vid, each of the 3 models were different in their let down.

[@strixoutdoors]

Very interesting. I'll likely go shoot them this year. The draw cycle on my Reign 6 was pretty tough on Performance and I feel like my accuracy has decreased with the Comfort setting. Will be interesting to see what the Solution will do. I'm trying to push a 630gr arrow as fast as I can though so it's always a tough sell to myself to get a new bow if I'm not actually gaining any fps.

[@craigmook100]

What color camo is that Solution SD? Does not look like any of the offerings on their website.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I'm not sure, sorry about that. But it is one of the colors from Bowtech.

[@mikecredeur7941]

The SS for me. Love it so far.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

That's good to hear.

[@derrickknight9511]

Put the bowtech realm up against them too I want too see a review on it and see how it does against he solutions

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, I don't have access to every year's bows, but just the ones that come into the local shop. I'm still shooting my SR6 after testing these bows, though these were very good as well.

[@derrickknight9511]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures got ya, well maybe you will have a chance to test the bowtech realm one day. I love mine

[@gregbrownlow1034]

Can you go back and test these three bows at 70# 27" with your normal 460 grain arrow? I would appreciate it.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I did that that same day with the SD and the Solution. Maxed out at 72 lbs on COMFORT, with 460 gr arrow: SD: 254 fps Solution: 264 SR6: 262

[@gregbrownlow1034]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures Awesome! Thank you!

[@cc-hc1dr]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures Wow I shot 27" SS in performance with a 470+gr arrow and got 258. I was hoping he SD would top it in comfort mode. The SS was pretty nice in performance.

[@gregbrownlow1034]

@@cc-hc1dr What did the SD do in performance? Did you test that?

[@halfstep67]

Nice review. I have a 30" draw so I have more lead way. I still think the reckoning 35 has very good performance and specs. I have a specialist with Barnsdale limbs. I haven't seen too many bows that would I would replace my specialist with other than the reckoning 35.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you. That's a fantastic bow.

[@williamyawn3878]

What you think of the Hoyt carbon turbo rx4

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I tested the RX4 a year ago and included it in my 2020 Bow Battle, but I didn't test the Turbo.

[@chrississon2646]

Nice bows , I'm getting the ss

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Good choice. I really liked that bow.

[@MrShysterme]

Great video. A lot of people are going to be interested in a Revolt vs. Solution SS comparison, because they are so similar in specs. I'll probably buy one or another. The Revolt wins on paper, but the Solution SS is newer so the thought is it might be a more refined design. I guess shooting both will decide it. I doubt Bowtech will keep making both for long, so might be time to pull the trigger soon. Other reviews showed that on comfort that the Revolt came in 10 fps under stated IBO with 20 grains on the string (taking into account draw length/weight), and 5 fps under on performance. An IBO speed calculator (using 320 IBO, 12 under stated) and 60 lbs etc (given specs) predicts a 255 fps speed on that SS (10 over what you got). This to me indicates that it real world it is slower than the Revolt (significantly so). It might be that it doesn't like the 27" draw length (doesn't scale down well). The tests I saw on the Revolt were at 29" or 30".

[@toddlymburner5783]

You are bang on! Those are really slow speeds even in comfort setting. I had a RevoltX last year at 70 pounds and a 26 inch draw I shot a 420 grain arrow 259 FPS in performance which I was disappointed in and that’s better then the “speed” bow of this year. Bowtech speeds suck and are not efficient at shorter draw lengths, even the ones that are supposed to be.

[@jasonbrady7861]

I'd be curious to see the revolt and solution ss compared side by side as well. The specs are so similar... The cams look bigger and rounder on the ss, so it likely does have a smoother feel to it... you would likely be happy with either one. The ss does just look like an improved revolt to me... can't see bowtech selling many revolts now, however the revolt x still has differentiators so I'd imagine it'll keep selling for them... maybe you'll be able to find a good deal on a revolt and the lower price will pull you that way.. good luck!

[@toddlymburner5783]

@@jasonbrady7861 the solution to me is a SR6 type bow with deadlock cams. Which is what people have been asking for. Good for Bowtech for listening to their customers. If your a young child, smaller female or older person the Solution SS is perfect as it has a really smooth draw. To me though it makes no sense though why anyone would buy a Solution over a VXR, V3 or Rx-4 or Rx-5. Those bows have crazy horse power that’s effective at all draw lengths. Bowtechs cams traditionally are horrible slow speeds for draw lengths under 29, it’s the shape of their cams and this cam looks like the SR6 cam which was horrible at draw lengths under 29. PSE, Matthews, Hoyt will give you WAY more horsepower be just as accurate and vibe free. I shot a RevoltX last year, liked it very much until I shot the other bows. Settled on the VXR and Hoyt RX4 Alpha. Ran them and the RevoltX through the chronograph and the VXR and RX-4 left the RevoltX in the dust and shot just as good.

[@jasonbrady7861]

@@toddlymburner5783thanks for your input. I shoot a Revolt X... shoots like a dream. It was the one for me for several reasons. The deadlock system, grip, feel, balance, smooth draw and overall shooting experience. I agree that Mathews and Hoyt make some great bows, but I have no regrets on my choice. We're lucky to have so many great options as archers!

[@toddlymburner5783]

@@jasonbrady7861 their draw is smooth and I do think they have the best tuning system of them all.

[@myronriggs9613]

Which Bowtech bow should I get in 60 pound draw with 29 inch draw length. Smoothness counts accuracy is a must. For hunting 3D and plinking in the yard. Thank you

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for the question Myron. Unfortunately, that's pretty impossible for me to answer. It all comes down to how the bow feels and performs in your hand. Accuracy will be great with any of them, provided you have good form and a well constructed, properly spined arrow with good FOC. The smoothest will be the SS, but you'll lose a bit of speed. You should go to a shop and see how the SS, and Solution and the new SR350 feel in your hand. But I would say the SS is probably going to be the smoothest.

[@scottyoung6745]

what arrow weight are you shooting sir?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Like I said in this vid, it was a 385 gr. But I hunt with a 460 gr. I posted the specs in the Description section of this vid.

[@scottyoung6745]

thank you very much sir

[@leroyjones769]

So would you consider the new SD or keep what you have because of the speed.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

To be honest, I'm torn. I like all 3 of them, for different reasons. But the SR6 has the best draw for the speed I've ever tested. But I do like the Deadlock Tech and I don't really like the wide yoke on the SR6.

[@leroyjones769]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures ... thank you 🙏🏾

[@darrenlaumeyer5079]

So here's a question I have. I amngkinf to buy a new bowtech. Once you have your center shot set up...and have the bow tuned properly with field points. When I go to tune for broadheads.....do I use the deadlock on the cams? Or do I still move the rest??? Thanks

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

You make sure you have the rest centered properly, as you have said...then use the Deadlock cam adjustment, just as you would have yoke tuned or added shims.

[@justinsigmon1878]

I have a 28.5" draw. Can shoot 70lb with a 580 grain arrow set up. Which one do you think would be best for me. I now have the bowtech outlaw 2013. It's just time for upgrade.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Nice. It all depends on what you're looking for--smoothness or speed. All are pretty fast and fairly smooth, but they do vary in that regard. So it's hard for me to say what's best for you and your hunting style and frame. The best thing to do would be to go to a shop and try them out--or at least study the specs about each one. The SS is the smoothest and the Solution is the fastest.

[@justinsigmon1878]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures thank you so much your videos has helped a bunch

[@jdansie]

Are the IBO speeds based on the comfort or speed setting?

[@omen2098]

Speed

[@omen2098]

@@jasonbrady7861 you may want to re-read his question and then delete your comment..

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

The IBOs are based on Performance; I tested them on both and recorded both in the sheet at the end...but only videoed the Comfort tests.

[@usbsol]

Nice review, but I consider a test incomplete if IBO speed test is not done. Companys inflate their numbers and this should be made explicit so it can stop. Thanks 🙂

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for watching and commenting. Sorry it's incomplete for you. I'm only testing for my 27" draw.

[@KMAC-45]

Just shot the Solution SS it was really smooth wanted to shoot the Ventum and the Nexxus 4 but the weight was at 70lbs. I am left handed so it is to much. It was packed so I didnt want have em back em down today but I will soon.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Very good.

[@krampus8243]

Solution VS realm sr6 ??

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, they're just so different. I love the Deadlock Technology...but I love the smoothness and speed of my SR6 as well.

[@shadyp-zv3uf]

The SOLUTION IS the bow for me 30 inch 65 Lb. And deaock and the cam lock and turning technology not to that they are ... Some of the best looking bows. For 2021!@@ I would love to have one i?!!!!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

That does sound like a good fit!

[@kylesharp7640]

Nothing good enough to get rid of my SR6. The Solution would be the bow I would buy if any.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, I love my SR6 as well.

[@MegaPerson012345]

This is about bowtech, has nothing to do with this video, other than it is the same kind of bow. I orded a bowtech sd back around april 20th. Still have not received it. I paid half down when I ordered. It is now mid july. No date given when I might even get this bow.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, this year has been crazy with bow orders in every brand, due to Covid.

[@MegaPerson012345]

Actually I just got word that bowtech totally messed up my order after waiting 18 weeks. Even after confirming the order in april and june. Very upset.

[@MegaPerson012345]

No compensation from bowtech side at all. No attempt to make it right. Just left hanging and tying up my time and money preventing me from getting something else. I have to use my old bow now. Thank goodness I kept shooting it.

[@danblacksher6289]

Sounds like it’s a deadlock between the 3

[@michaelficarro2591]

LOL, Dan found the solution to the problem.....

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Haha. I've been wrestling with it all weekend.

[@traditionalbowhunter5862]

this dude is a cupcake but he knows his bows. lol The Bowtechs have been callling to me this year!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

A cupcake? What's up with that? :) Thanks for watching.

[@Bigbuck198]

This guy dreams of bows lol..

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Haha. Maybe so.

[@anthonysears871]

Shoot a traditional bow. Compounds are bows with training wheels. Lol! Kind of like a ebike. Lol at them too. We are doomed!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:)

[@marke.8334]

If you all have not seen a documentary called.... It's worse than you think.. by revelations of Jesus Christ ministries... I suggest you do.... All praise and glory to the most high Jesus Christ

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Okay. Thanks for sharing that.

[@johnwalter6410]

You hunt that much and have been shooting bow that long and you still have to bring your bow to a shop for tuning?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Haha. Yeah, the guy at the shop by me is a wizard.