LUXURY or LIES? True 2 Person Backpacking Tents?

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A lot of people use one person tents like they are one person tents. But sometimes you actually want to put two people in a tent. So I checked out 3 of the top 2 person backpacking tents available on the market today. And these are some REALLY Nice Tents!
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[@henke103]

THANK YOU for the metric weights and measurements

[@alemholas]

I agree! Thank you. It was very handy to a non US watcher c:

[@kireowlman6750]

Yeah! Always takes more brainpower if I have to convert in my head.

[@dpear3]

MSR always surprises me with how well thought out most their products are. I always thought of them as a sort of under-dog brand because in scouts we’d use whatever their cheapest option was (which would be years old and still standing despite being thrashed by teenage boys every week). As I’ve gotten older I recognize their products do what they’re designed to do, no less, no more, and that’s very respectable.

[@jmash41]

Guess that's why they are named Mountain Safety Research.

[@pentacosttb2565]

My Elixir 3 lost its waterproofing almost immediately and MSR's waterproofing generally seems below average. They also seem to not hold up well in high winds. I would honestly not recommend them to anyone.

[@I..cast..fireball]

​@@pentacosttb2565what tent brand have you had good luck with?

[@plwadodveeefdv]

It's just a brand

[@TheNewGreenIsBlue]

It's the price that kills me though. Leaning towards the Durston X-MID 2P (non-pro)

[@jeffpeters5347]

Steven, I absolutely love the way you can see the bigger integrated picture of backpacking. Gear doesn't exist & function by itself, it impacts EVERYTHING else. Another great topic. Thank you for your perspective!

[@WheelsonaBike]

Thank you for this comparison! I've used two of these tents, the 2021 MSR Hubba Hubba and the Big Agnes Cooper Spur Bikepacking on my 5 month long bicycle trip across Canada. The MSR Hubba Hubba leaked and had terrible condensation issues and MSR was not helpful in troubleshooting - they wanted me to send the fly for evaluation in the middle of my trip, without sending out a replacement. The Big Agnes tent has been exceptional. No leaks, no excessive condensation, just a little workhorse. I do use it for myself only and do agree that it would not fit two 25 inch pads, which I also sleep on.

[@retireddac]

This was interesting. None of these 3 tents were on my list because of price but I love seeing pros and cons. It helps me look for things I would or wouldn’t want in my next piece of gear. I bought a Paria Arches 2 person tent this summer. It fits a Saint Bernard and me with room to spare. I love the weight difference from my 25 year old 2 person tent it replaced.

[@Glarf]

I have the Copper Spur and while I never use the awning, I LOVE having a second zipper on the rain fly by the opening. The zippers on the Copper Spur are just so well thought-out.

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

I just picked up a Copper Spur 2P (aka mansion for 1P) myself. It's unbelievable what an extra 8oz in features make (interior pockets, stash spots, etc...). The day carrying an extra 8oz in the woods turns my outing into a burden is the day I need to retire! LOL

[@mrmods7912]

The awning is a complete gimmick...I don't think most people use it.. Nemo dagger osmo 2p is a far better tent

[@chrishyde7798]

I dig the fan art! Thank you for your video comparing these tents. I'm in the market for a new 2 or 3 person tent and this is helping to guide my purchasing decision. I appreciate how you brought the topic of the real life situation of fitting wider sleeping pads (floor space/width) and the expense to weight ratio to the conversation for tent selection.

[@peterduncan1436]

Love the channel. The metric conversions are very useful to us elsewhere in the world

[@ManivanAdventures]

Your channel kills it man. Your videos are so well made and the information is incredibly helpful! It’s very much appreciated! 🤙🏼

[@MyLifeOutdoors]

Thanks. I appreciate you watching and supporting the channel

[@Galactico42]

I love how thorough this was. In particular, the note about the Big Agnes trekking pole awning - I've often seen that and thought it was something special. Might still be nice for keeping the sun off in the desert though.

[@marijn848]

Hi Steven, thanks for getting me interested in backbacking. Your videos are very informative and im looking forward to going backbacking myself in the future! :)

[@ladk387]

I bought the BA tiger wall 3p to use as a 2p since it is so much light than the copper spur. It’s been great to have to extra room. But it also is only partially free standing. Great videos, love your input and details.

[@michaelburke5907]

I was snowed in at 10,000 ft.for three days on Mt. Adams in Washington State....I was certainly glad to have the room for all our gear and room to sit up, stretch out, etc. Sierra Designs Glacier tent weighed in at 7lbs. and I was happy to carry the extra weight for room and durability, believe me!

[@michaeltoloczko5777]

Best tent review video yet. Really got me thinking of certain tents “bells and whistles” and is it just something to just sell a tent versus actuality needing/wanting it on my next adventure!

[@cotteeskid]

Thank you for considering that your videos might have a global audience and including some brief Metric conversions, to save me having to do it myself which is a frequent occurrence. After recently complimenting a high subscriber youtuber for his content and then suggesting that he also include some metric figures I was met with a backslap to suggest that if I was too lazy to look up figures, then I was too lazy to practise the motorcycle techniques he was demonstrating.

[@MyLifeOutdoors]

Wow. That’s quite the response! I for one and glad to have you here no matter where you are from.

[@akivanomad2167]

I second the metric conversion. Saves me pausing the video every 5 seconds to use my calculator. It's easy to do but I usually end up switching off. Cheers. 👍

[@sharingmatters]

Very precise review. I like the comparison of tents from the top side-by-side.

[@S.L.1211]

Great video! I have the MSR Hubba 1 person tent with a 20” pad and it’s fantastic but I have to say I wish I had opted for the 2 person Version and a 25 inch pad even as a soloist for the extra comfort factor. These all look like great tents and your assessment seems to be spot on.

[@kristymoore7052]

I LOVE my copper spur. Tried several others before settling. Me only. Not 2 p., just me AND all my gear if I want. The “marketing gimmick” can be a hassle to use as directed, but well worth it in light rain or needed shade. The real great part is that you can unzip the vestibule from both ends and just stuff it between the mesh and the fly for easy-peasy access. I also love the door keepers and the storage all over. I seriously love this tent.

[@Reuben_hikes]

We needed with the BA CS 3person so we could fit 2 25" pads. Really like this tent. Awnings are a nice feature when it's raining. We use the DD xmid 2 the most though. It's fits both pads with ease.

[@johneldridge535]

I really like my Big Agnes Tent. But you are right about the awnings. I have never used them and that material is always just in my way. Thanks for your quality videos.

[@adammacer]

It's gotta be less in the way than a single-zip door though.. tuck it under the roof - ta da!

[@lundiboy8]

Used to have the Copper Spur. Nothing wrong with it but decided to try and go lighter. Love my Tarptent Double Rainbow Double Wall. Easily survived 50mph winds and 10 inches of rain with no leaking.

[@kokolebest95]

The double rainbow is my choice too ! I have the single wall though

[@kevinhansen2027]

I preordered the Durston X-Mid 2p v2 yesterday. No need to pack up a wet tent due to condensation or rain because it's not single wall. I'm very impressed with all the unique design features and what seems to be a very simple set up. The most important feature for me is the ability to set up fly first, and pack everything including the inner tent under the fly and take it down last. Shaking out a fly is a way better option than trying to dry a single wall tent before packing up/ moving on, especially in humid climates such as ours on Vancouver Island. The V2 has a generous 52 inch wide floor, and weighs only 2.2 lbs.

[@ThePhiloctopus]

I have the Copper Spur Bikepack edition and I ordered the xmid 2p v2 today (with poles). Very excited to see how it stacks up.

[@jamicrawford6729]

Thx for the best content on KZbin amongst backpacking matters!

[@GregoryVeizades]

Out of these tents, the Nemo looks like the one I would want. But, im really happy with my 2013 era Sierra Designs Lightning II FL and would love to design something like the Nemo's gear bucket for its wings. I wish Sierra Designs had stayed with their more difference designs. I especially miss the Nightwatch line of tents.

[@jasondm]

All three of these tents made it to the top of my list when I wanted a lighter 2-person, not-4-season tent to supplant my massive, heavy, and aged but still really good REI arete asl 3 as my primary tent just a month or so ago. The nemo dagger was actually on the top of my list (by price and features) but it had one real con for me: Nemo's weird cutout on the rainfly. I want the ability to get the fly as low as possible, even hugging the ground, in blowing rain, sand and dust storms. I experienced blowing dust in a basecamp scenario and getting back to find all your sleep gear (and everything else) covered in dirt and dust sucks. The weight was also a consideration at that price point for me. The MSR hubba was second on my list but it had another major con that some others have already touched on: the poles apparently have a problem with splinters, damaging the tent/fly and injuring people. I have no doubt that they'll remedy this but I wouldn't be able to know if I would be another unlucky customer so I put it off. Third was the BA Copper Spur (HV UL2) which was all around the best for me except for one thing: the price, $100-$150 more than the other options without any major feature "improvement", the footprint was also nearly 2x the price of the footprints for the others. Two major factors ended up putting it at the top of my list and ultimately led to my purchase: The bikepacking version with the shorter pole sections and the fact the price disparity with the other options vanished during the labor day sales. Oh, and I liked the colors (or lack of) of the bikepacking version the most out of all the tents I looked at.

[@randyleehesser2711]

I’m excited for a new tent. I have been using a North Face Micah ul for many years but refused to upgrade because of the door and rain fly door placement on new tents. I live in a rainforest and have very specific ways to deal with rain, mosquitoes, and no-see-ums. I look forward to getting my hands on the MSR. Thanks for your review.

[@charlestherrien3290]

I had the MSR one and I returned it after 1 use. It feels cheap and the poles look like they're going to break at anytime. Plus, the carbon fiber poles leaves small carbon in the head and it kinda Hurts a little. Really happy with my Copper Spur on the other hand

[@Stilez]

I have the Nemo Dagger Osmo 2p & it's simply fantastic. I"m short & skinny, yet barely notice the weight. Especially if you split the pole/stakes bags with another person.

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

2 people should be using a 3 person tent. 😂 If you want more floor space and lighter weight, get the BIg Agnes Copper Spur 3 HV UL3! The 3lb 14oz Big Agnes (3 person) weighs ¼ pound "less" than the 4lb 2oz Nemo Dagger (2 person) tent and is 62" wide at the foot end and 70" wide at the head end. I love that "Landing Zone" for the Nemo, but in a 3 person Big Agnes, 2 users could would have room inside for their gear because it has about 13sq ft of unused space (the missing 3rd person in the tent). I'm thinking an extra piece of triangular Tyvek is in order for my 2P Copper Spur's vestibule. Easy to make it into a bathtub with a snip at the corners about 2" in and some Gorilla Tape. Then it folds away into nothing in the BA's sack.

[@jmash41]

Great video! I'm with you... I'd choose the MSR. Although, I do own the Paria Arches 2 person tent and it's huge. Weighs about 4 lbs, best I can remember. It's very economical too!

[@debbilermond1553]

Steven, I LOVE Moosejaw!!! I even wore my Moosejaw t-shirt in front of the REI Flagship store entry sign, had my hubby take my photo and put it on FB, LOL! I bought the NEMO Dagger OSMO 3P tent for my husband's birthday a few months ago. He's 6'4" and I'm 5'8.5" so we wanted to make sure we had plenty of room. Tried it out a month ago in Trout Lake, WA and loved it! It also has the Landing Zone to put your gear in under the vestibule. Sweet! The OSMO proprietary fabric doesn't sag when wet and lasts 3-4 times longer than other tent fabrics. 😆

[@gefginn3699]

Great post my friend. I appreciate all the information you are sharing here. 🏃‍♂️

[@HikingwithGus]

I used the BA Copper Spur on my recent 5 day trip thru the Enchantment Lakes and loved every minute. That being said, I solo with only my Blue Heeler, so I do not need the room for another Human, although the dog tends to be a space hog anyway. Moose Jaw is the bomb, I check them out first before any other retailer.

[@dougieranger]

“Space hog” 😂 love it mate. 👍🏼🥃

[@ronwolfe9292]

Nice video comparison. I have the Nemo and love it but I'm 6'6" and like the extra length. They are all great tents but the comfort features of the Nemo stood out more to me and weight wasn't a huge concern. Love your videos and content!

[@bryoncatterall]

I'm also 6ft4in and the nemo is great tent that I saw to online, i don't notice the weight and I never use the shoe storage thing.. love the nemo tent... nice to have a tent for us tall ppl lol

[@briarmeadow]

Very helpful review. Thx. Being tall, i like the extra room of a 2P. I also like wider sleeping pads so i can roll side to side during the night.

[@peterjohnson6273]

Always like the work you do, Steve. Thanks.

[@81Alfetta]

I remember weighing up between the MSR and a Mont Moondance 2 a few years back. Ultimately went with the Moondance on the basis of a more water resistant floor/being a bit more durable, liking the colour better, and it being a domestic brand, but it was a close-run thing. So far it’s served me well.

[@SD-ft6gs]

Isn't MSR a Seattle based US company? or do you mean final assembly/production being done in the US?

[@firnsarwen]

​@@SD-ft6gsMont, the maker of the Moondance, is an Australian company, therefore I believe the OP is probably Australian. ;)

[@brucehunter3780]

Hi Steven, I've been running the HV UL2 for 2 years exclusively with 2 persons. The floor size over time is a problem. We needed to ditch the 2 wide pads and went to the BA 2 person custom pad which incorporated the diminishing floor (no longer sold). Had all three of these tents out with our group for 2 weeks in the Alberta Rockies a few weeks back in all conditions, they all preformed very well. The MSR seemed to be the most comfortable and the tent we recommend - just not very attractive. Night after night setup I found quicker with the BA but pad / floor noise can become unbearable. I agree the awning feature is a gimmick and the doors always fall in ones face and wont stay out of the way when exiting. Had a hailstorm come in with the hail and water bouncing up under the fly - not fun for us as we also have a down investment. The BA has always felt like 2 tents mashed together. That said I forward another contender for an affordable full-size 2 person freestanding tent that anyone can use, how about the Marmot HV UL2. Just replaced my BA with a Durston - gotta try 🙂

[@chrisschell90]

Such a great channel. Especially compared to the total shills out there. Looking at you Dan becker.

[@markcummings6856]

100%.

[@nunyabidness3075]

@@markcummings6856 Why is this Becker guy living rent free in your brain? What did he do, pee in your cheerios?

[@dougieranger]

Agreed.

[@LeakyWaders]

Dan lost his credibility for me a bit ago, personally. He is clearly just pushing gear to make money behind the scenes.

[@lakorai2]

This guy and Becker are friends just to let you know. The tears of Dan Becker is hilarious.

[@published1789]

Thank you so much -- we have two people to work around and need that "genuine two-person tent". 🙂 Appreciate your reviews!

[@YankeeTankerOutdoors]

Kelty All Inn - 3lbs even 2p - two doors - semi free standing - 241... love mine :) Great video man!!! Love the channel.

[@trailheadjunkie]

I agree about Hubba Hubba tent. Out of the 3 tents I currently use Hubba Hubba (2022) Copper Spur (2021) and Tiger Wall (2021) models, my go to tent is the MSR. It’s been through wind storm and rain without any issues. I also think the easton cyclone tent poles are much stronger than DAC. It’s my favorite tent at the moment.

[@richterscale6406]

Hi! A bunch of reviews online talk about people getting splinters from the Hubba hubba poles... have you had this experience? Want to buy the tent but that kind of puts me off from it if true

[@colinskillings]

Here for the same question about the poles.

[@GypsyGirl317]

​@@richterscale6406MSR will replace the poles if you get splinters. It seems to be certain batches.

[@GypsyGirl317]

​@@colinskillingsMSR will replace the poles if you get splinters. It seems to be certain batches.

[@DumpTrump4TRE45ON]

I have the NEMO Dagger Bikepack 2 person. Its not much heavier than a 1 person, its very comfortable. I sleep on a 25 inch EXPED Downmatt 9 or Dura 8 (I live in Alaska, its cool even in summer, I backpack all year round). I like the extra space for gear, hygeine in the tent, stretching out. I loved my Dagger so much I purchasrd their Kunai and I love it even more as a 3-4 season tent. It holds up to weather and its very light. I find the extra tiny weight so negligable and worth it for comfort. Also consider Paria Outdoors 2 person tents. Very inexpensive, very light and comfortable and super waterproof (it has been raining all day, every day since the 2nd week of July). Awesom channel!

[@darronfletcher1297]

I'm really enjoying your channel and the gear reviews. I think instead of announcing the best tent, you should announce the best tent that fits you and your needs. But I love the way you cover the pros and cons of each. I give your reviews a 10 for 10 score.

[@shuang90740]

How?? Every time I’m looking for a new piece of camping gear and comparing several specific items (online), you’ve already created a video doing just that. Thanks for all the great info!

[@dwightWSmith73]

Many thanks. I had just purchased the Big Agnes one. Then I see this video and rushed down to REI, returned the Big Agnes and picked up the MSR one.

[@Trapster99]

Excellent review.. Covers all the important issues, instead of glossing over them.

[@juliajuanafernandaalvarez1456]

I would choose the Nemo. For me it feels like the best tend overall. The only negative about it compared to the other tents is the weight but it´s not to crazy and for me not to big of an issue.

[@Rixx1985]

Great video, top notch filming and really good facts

[@jackvoss5841]

I like your methodical, analytical approach to situations. You narrow the fields of examination down to a very few options, all of which are rational and good. Thanks. I like the advice that you offer. (But - like any self respecting maverick - I still make my own choices. It used to irk my Dad.) Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@miket1291]

Great review. I have the Copper Spur 1p and love it. But have been considering the 2p. However I do not like the new vestibule design at all. I know it can be used conventionally but I think it adds more complexity than is necessary. I will have to look at the MSR more closely. Thanks for the insight.

[@kembo1530]

I really appreciate the metric units you add

[@ZachBrimhall]

I've been using the BA Copper Spur for the last 2 seasons and love it. My only complaint is the floor dimensions. I'm a big guy, 6'2" 225lbs and I consider the Copper Spur 2 to be a 1 man tent. I noticed MSR HH 2 changed the floor dimensions this year and it's now 50x50. I think this will be my next tent at some point. However, not giving up my Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL 2 (fix the name, too long).

[@amunak_]

Thank you so much for the metric conversions. Other channels are almost unwatchable to me because of this, since you'd have to look up the conversions like 20 times in a single video.

[@Justin-Walsh]

These three were on my radar for a summer tent, but after owning the previous HubbaHubba, the reduction of mesh and the slightly smaller volume was a turn-off. I went with the Mountain Hardwear Aspect2, which is 90x50, a touch over 3lbs and gets the job done comfortably. It's a bit pricy, but with some rewards bucks and a well timed discount, it was ok.

[@DirtRiderLife]

I bought a Hubba Hubba 2 this year, discounted the Copper Spur on cost and Nemo on weight (but did really like the landing zone idea), really please by my choice, its a very nice tent so far I cannot fault it.

[@jazzwyld1]

Just ordered the X-Mid 2. Can't wait to get it

[@pal8h]

This is the exact video that I needed! Great information!

[@MyLifeOutdoors]

Glad it was helpful!

[@oqomodo]

I have the copper spur and my partner has a regular pad and I a wide. This fits perfect and the full floor is filled and we both share the floor space well. I really like everything else about it. Also got it for a steal at a gear trader. I agree it's too expensive normally.

[@jenshoefer7944]

Oh that was the video i was looking for with exactly the 3 tents i shortlisted 😁. Planning to visit a friend in US next year going on a long trail, so unlike europe where we often use huts, this will be tent camping then...thanks for showing the metric measurements too

[@techguy9023]

I got a North Face Stormbreak 3 for me and my kids. We split up the weight. Yes its heavy but it was $168 on sale. For the few hikes we do a year its fine and seems sturdy.

[@SummitSeeker546]

I’m amazed at how many backpackers overlook the Marmot Tungsten UL 1P and 2P tents. No rain fly sag or stretch, ceiling vent to prevent condensation, light weight, double wall, free standing, bombproof to wind and rain, warm for shoulder season excursions, spacious, and lightweight for the features. This is not an ultralight tent designed to compete with Zpacks, Gossamer Gear, or Durston but can definitely compete with BA, Nemo, REI, or MSR. It’s my go-to tent for comfort, protection from the elements (rain, cold, wind), or tight footprint options. The UL 1P has served me well on the JMT, multiple Grand Canyon trips, Sierra excursions, and late season Rocky Mtn trips. Combine this tent with a Thermarest XLite regular length wide pad, a quilt (for me a UGQ), a Cacoon silk liner, and a Zpacks attachable pillow, and you have a most comfortable tent and sleep system to ensure a great nights sleep no matter what Mother Nature throws at you. IMO!

[@lynnmacdonald-webber7657]

Absolutely love my Xmid 2 regular!

[@mrmods7912]

Nobody buys a 2 person tent for 2 people.. They buy a 3 person tent instead...

[@eric55406]

I decided on the X-Mid 2 (non-pro). $300 for the tent. Fits 2 wide pads. 35.4 oz / 1005 g (tent only) or 38.4 oz / 1085 g (tent, stuff sacks, 6 stakes). ($375 with a pair of carbon fiber poles adding additional 6.6 oz / 186g for both). I haven't got to use it yet but it seems to have a lot going for it for a competitive price.

[@chrismoses7445]

Steven I think you should consider reviewing the Tarptent Double Rainbow DW. It has the same floor space and head room as the Hubba Hubba, but is $100 cheaper (w/aluminum ridge pole) and is less weight. Plus it can be pitched free-standing with trekking poles or with just stakes and the option to pitch fly first or interior first. For some reason Tarptent gets lost in many tent reviews.

[@brennan77]

I'm replacing my old hubba hubba after 10 years of use. I keep shopping but keep coming back to the hubba hubba. This video is a helpful comparison.

[@cynthiaforcade1429]

We love our Nemo Dagger. My husband is 6'2".

[@Harry-Giles]

Really well sorted and insightful review

[@rajmadhure]

I've got the Copper Spur 3 person and the X-Mid 2 Pro. X-Mid 2 Pro is amazing but per your review of it, I think I'd be hard pressed to put two people in there. I could actually fit three people (okay me + 2 kids) in the Copper Spur.

[@JarradShaw]

So glad you did this video. Thanks! Katie and I were going to get a 3 person Copper Spur due to both of us having 25 in BA q-core deluxe pads, but more so because our 25lb welsh corgi comes with us on trips. Giving her enough room to layout a Ruffwear sleep bag/pad and us to get up and out around the pup is essential. Buuuut… you kinda sold me on the MSR Hubba Hubba, and I think they make a 3 person version. Katie and I can split the weight of that system between the two of our OV backpacks. And cheaper but not less quality. nice!

[@redwhiteblue7831]

I agree with most of your point of views... I recently purchased the Nemo OSMO 2p and having 2nd thoughts of keeping it, and trading it in for the MSR Hubba Hubba NX 2 I'm a little over 6'-2" and my feet and head touch both ends of the Nemo, it's a little bigger than my 1p tent. Thank you for your opinion, It helped with my decision.

[@HugeCockAndBalls]

Exactly why I bought the tiger wall UL3

[@HuskyMike]

Solid review. Big Copper Spur fan here (have a Flying Diamond 6, Classic UL2 and a HV UL3). I can see the appeal of the MSR for sure.

[@srtgrayfrance]

I've always considered a pack to be equivalent to half a person. Thus a 2-person tent will hold me and my pack, or two people with packs outside. A three person will hold two people with packs, 3 with packs outside etc. A bivvy bag is the only true one-person accommodation, since it cannot hold a pack inside.

[@lionelmagis7451]

Love my Dagger Osmo, it's a luxurious palace! A pity it only includes one landing zone.. The Sierra Designs Meteor Lite 2 would be a nice fit too, if it wasn't for that colour scheme..

[@mojaslovenija9903]

Good point. My 2€ cents... I spend about 100 days a year wildcamping and was with a various types and brands of tents, what I am missing... the data about the wind resistance. Only one brand is with such tests and I verified them with my practice. I was with a throuhike in Corsica and the wind gust was 180 km/h... Robens tent survived the wind undamages, while Nemo was teared completly. Hiking in Europe is always with wind... Ireland, Scotland, Alps,...so the wind resistance is a key feature. What is the use of ultralight tent when is not functional?

[@GypsyGirl317]

I agree 👍🏽

[@albertbray2785]

I like you, you are almost as critical about door manufactures as I am. Your evaluations of these tents along with other critiques on your channel and other channels are some of the most thorough posted. My outdoor experience dates back to the early 70's. I agree with your pet gripe that one, two, three etc. ratings of tents are arbitrary manufacture sales gimmicks. The 25" shoulder width is an excellent real life dimension for hiking. 30" should also be considered for several applications like canoeing, and kayaking. One of my pet peeves is folded pole lengths. Most seem to be 18 to 20". Most packs are 12 to 14" wide. I know packing them vertically is an option. But, if they fold to 12" horizontally would be an option. (Durston seems to get it. His carbon tent poles fold to 12") I've made shortened poles for my Hubba NX and Northface Triarch. Yes there are more sections, but not that many. And, they pack up any way I want. Thanks for letting me vent.

[@GIRLplusDOGAdventures]

I have all 3! Copper Spur is on the bottom of my list due to the factors you listed.

[@akivanomad2167]

Out of interest, what's your top of the list? I'm looking at the Hubba Hubba and Copper Spur 2. The MSR is winning at the moment. 👍

[@siriusgaming7238]

Even though I think me and my gf would be more comfortable in the MSR, we are still quite happy in our Copper Spur. For our bikepacking it just felt like the right option, sure the extra space would be nice, but the volume and weight of the copper just worked for us.

[@GypsyGirl317]

I have the MSR Hubba Hubba 2p 2022 and I love it.

[@neonsamurai1348]

A Hilleberg is what I would go for. Any of there 1 or more person tents are fantastic.

[@andy9711]

I love my copper spur on the PCT

[@valeriesorrells]

damn, wish I saw this before I got my BA copper spur. I do love it, (ventilation is awesome in wet environments) but your right, there is no way to fit two 25" pads in it.

[@shabingly]

I was honestly going to get an x-mid 2 or a stratospire 2 (non-dcf versions) but life got in the way and I couldn't wait for the supply issues to sort themselves out (had 3 or 4 trips with the wife this summer, and our helm 3 was just far too heavy for what we had planned). Bought a Hilleberg Anaris, purely because it had the bigger floorspace (especially length, as I'm a lanky git) of any other tent I could find at the same weight made out of nylon. Bleedin' expensive for a sil nylon tent, but built like a tank. Vestibules are gargantuan, and strangely I have also found the different ways you can pitch it actually useful. Thought they'd just be a gimmick.

[@JCrozier1]

I really like the hubba 2. I have a kelty right now that gets casket like when it's warm out. I don't think I can do it again. I know it's warmer when the temperatures drop, but I need that space.

[@magharibo]

I use the older version of the hubba hubba for quit some seasons now, and I’m really amazed by the improvements they did. We always used cliff-Bars in the upper side of the Apsis doors to get the max air ventilation . Now they are “build in”

[@ashleyhanks9608]

First off, thank you for your in depth reviews. Secondly, thank you for using pounds when explaining weights! I know I a lot of hikers go by the ounce, but my brain doesn't compute that way. 😂 These were 3 of the 4 backpacking tents I've been researching for my (very) tall husband and I to use. He's 6'4". Taller than your average bear. Thank you again. 😊

[@jroth87]

I have a 11 year old hubba hubba and it’s been a real trooper. Back then they kept the cross member attached similar to the Nemo’s.

[@supernoodles908]

USA folk, if you can, have a look at Vango tents of you're on a budget but what a reliable not overly heavy tent

[@BackcountryPilgrim]

Excellent work!

[@thomasraymond3843]

Marmot vapor 2p is really underrated. 65 nylon also so no need for a footprint. 2.5kg but I’ve had mine for 6 years and I would probably buy it again. Cheap in comparison to these.

[@4CountDaddy]

Price to weight ratio, and interior space the XMid is a clear winner... I love mine and don't see needing to replace it EVER. I have a friend who loves his Copper Spur, but for the added weight and cost the only advantage it really has is ease of setup (being able to unstake it and move it if you're not quite in the right spot is a valuable feature)

[@PitmanConcrete]

The North Face Stormbreak 2… I know TNF is very much used by pedestrians but trust me… give it a shot and in its price range, for that kind of reliability I think it’s the best budget tent I’ve owned.

[@azclaimjumper]

MooseJaw unquestionably has the largest inventory of Hilleberg tents & Western Mountaineering Sleeping Bags + they ship your order almost as soon as they get it. I just Subscribed & rang the notification bell. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada

[@glenhoddinott3799]

After years using lightweight 2-3 person tents, this year I decided to say the hell with it and got a 4 person MSR Elixir. I have no problem with carrying the extra weight (split between my partner and I) for the added comfort and space on trail. There’s nothing worse than spending hours or days huddled inside of a tiny 2 person tent with soaking wet gear while it pours rain and blows a gale outside. The extra space is worth the weight as far as I’m concerned.

[@simeonbradstock4214]

Thanks for the metric system comments and the video!

[@matthewfurst1577]

I am sure loving my BA one person, sorry to say I love the awning. Still love your videos man. Keep up the good work ✌️

[@giftedfox4748]

The Nemo tent does have extra weight that makes it heavier. However, you can always remove the gear tub, replace the stakes with lighter ones, and because it is two person tent you can have your partner or friend carry the poles where you carry the rest of the tent. With all three, which I looked pretty heavy on expect for the copper spur, I went with Nemo due to the comfort and room. I do plan on doing a month long hike sometime in the future and I can see myself just dealing with the extra pound for the luxury. I will know more when I take it out and test it for a small one day hike. How knows, maybe I was wrong and the extra pound will do it in for me.

[@bryoncatterall]

Any updates on the nemo?