Repairing The Worst Sounding Chimes Ever - 1976 Williams Space Mission Pinball Machine Video #4

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[@naytch2003]

This is ground control to Major Ron...you've really made the grade!!! 👍

[@glyph241]

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[@markjackson1444]

…Morning coffee and the dulcet tones of Ronnie working over another great old EM machine. … Life’s good. Thanks Ronnie.

[@PapaSean69]

Thanks for doing what you do. I'm a 53 yo broadcast engineer by trade but educated as a computer electronics technologist. I've been interested in the mechanics of pinball machines since the 1980's but have never had the opportunity to see the in-depth workings that you provide in your videos. One thing I think you might consider is showing a side-by-side before and after of when Joe cleans the playfield so we can all admire the difference. Keep up the great work!

[@matthewfarmer6830]

That pinball.table came out the year I was born 1976. I was born May 6. It looks nice would love to own one from the year I was born and then have older classic one that are made of glass and wooden frame. Thanks for sharing.👍📸

[@macdaddyns]

Even though you might this it is repetitious, I finally got the most understanding from this vid where you explained the spider and score reel relay switching. I think you do an excellent job of keeping these interesting. Thanks for all you do!

[@LyonsArcade]

It is repetitive, but the way it kind of works is we pick up new subscribers constantly. About 50 a day usually.... and we also have regular viewers get bored and kind of leave for awhile all the time too, so while there are plenty of people who watch all the videos and have been for a long time, we also have new people all the time who haven't seen any of this so it all works out. Thank you for watching macDaddyns!

[@mr.fixit2181]

@@LyonsArcade ur videos keep my mind busy appreciate u

[@naytch2003]

Now I know I'm not in Kansas..I stumbled into paradise...👍

[@maverick29]

Just had a Grease flashback when you were playing with the chimes. Got a good laugh out of that!

[@LyonsArcade]

Whoo oooh ooooooooooooh!

[@garykoke4327]

I love watching your videos Ron and if you repeat a repair it’s always on a different machine so we’re all learning something new! Also the boys in Australia are great! 👍

[@1971VoiceoftheMummy]

Still checking the vids out! Awesome work!

[@sguttag]

I guess, if it was me, I'd get a new backglass. But, to each their own. Cool work and very methodical working through the problems. I also like the improvisation on the chime bumpers...use what you have. They sounded just fine to me.

[@stephensejda5213]

Repaired these machines in the 70's. Space Odyssey/Mission was my favorite EM to test-play after repair. Regret not buying one from my employer.

[@chrissimoneaux1630]

glad you teaching us to keep these relics alive!!!!!

[@EsotericArctos]

Glad to see this one coming back to life. I love the old EM games. I think I'd leave the backglass as is on this too, but maybe if desperate to fix it up a bit, redo just the red with a stencil and a very light red spray, but that could end up looking a bit splattered or not transparent enough.

[@miguelrios4602]

It just needs new foam! Thanks, Ronnie. Chimes from this era always need work! What about the church chimes? :p :)

[@waynegram8907]

JOE CLASSIC, try to make a video lesson about using the set screws to align the spider with the contacts so when stepping up or down or resetting the spider aligns with the contacts perfectly because that is the hard part is dialing in that plunger coil set screw to adjust the spider

[@mikeschmidt9762]

At 14.07 with the blade inside the score wheel, someone stole that from your match unit and added there instead of someone getting a new blade haha

[@Mechotronic]

Hey Joe, they sell superlube grease in a tub and it's a little thicker. It's great for a lot of applications.

[@Undar8ed03]

Awesome video as usual. I got a question though. Do you guys sell parts?

[@LyonsArcade]

Sometimes we have a few we sell on KLOV.com but we don't keep any in or anything.

[@Undar8ed03]

@@LyonsArcade alright thank you sir. I appreciate it. I know you mainly deal with a lot of classics but I’m looking for a Denver board for a Rush 2049. It still works but the audio is messed up. Do you guys repair these?

[@williamblount5199]

There was a version of this same machine with "digital" sounds. Until about 12 years ago I owned one of them. It was only 2 player max. If you think the chimes sound bad, you should have heard the early synthesizer sounds. Ug.

[@EsotericArctos]

I think that was a remake of this game, or re-release. The EM version was definitely released earlier than the Solid State version, but I totally agree. Early solid state sounds were awful. They often tried to copy the chime sounds in an electronic version and these days it is just a bit cringey. At the time it was cutting edge though.

[@gorillaau]

@@EsotericArctos SS sound was probably bad until FM synthesis and the Yamaha sound chips came along.

[@e7yu]

Hi, Your channel is very cool. 😎

[@LyonsArcade]

Thank you, you're not so bad yourself!

[@jeffdannels]

I have a Williams Blue Chip machine. On the score real there is a plastic piece that moves the real. I would like to know where you might get one of these. I have tried several places but they all seem to be not made anymore. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[@SJohnsen13]

The chime spacers look like another opportunity to produce custom replacements with a 3D printer. :)

[@LyonsArcade]

They're available new you just have to order them and wait for them

[@AerinRavage]

I kinda like the faded paint look. So long as the game plays 100%, the rest is character!

[@RobSchofield]

Great, really enjoyed that.

[@Wyld1one]

yeah, WD40 is not lube - never was. light machine oil is best (sewing machine oil) tip: a #2 pencil eraser is great for cleaning board traces in tight spaces. it has a bit of abrasive in it. used it to clean motherboard card riser connections. just be sure to remove the dust after.

[@MikeSmith-km9ff]

The best way to make a Williams chime box sound good is to replace it with a Gottlieb chime box :D

[@LyonsArcade]

You're not the first one to suggest that :)

[@alexandernevermind7396]

Unfortunately Joe, you are missing a very crucial switch that is supposed to be attached to the match unit. Hence, the cut wires. The switch rotates the two “When Lit” top roll over switches during gameplay. That switch also rotates the bottom “Special Lites” when you achieve special. Depending on how you have it set up, the special awards a free game or extra ball.

[@LyonsArcade]

That's one of the things we fix on tomorrow's video

[@DonnyHooterHoot]

I was going to say something like, "Dummy reels for dummy technicians" but that would just be mean, so I won't say it! Great video!

[@naytch2003]

You just did 😆🤣

[@DonnyHooterHoot]

Aw c'mon people...people...c'mon.... I'm joking! C'mon people.

[@naytch2003]

@@DonnyHooterHoot cmon Donald cmon man..sense of humour is great..don't be no dry balls people come on now 😆

[@DonnyHooterHoot]

@@naytch2003 Baby boy you are so original. You and your HUGE KZbin channel scare me! Shriek!

[@naytch2003]

@@DonnyHooterHoot aww are you butt hurt haha

[@irieman442]

That machine is in the perfect condition for a garage. I wouldn't change a thing. You want it to look vintage in the garage with all the vintage cars.

[@10lauset]

Cheers to you. ..

[@LyonsArcade]

Cheers Laurie!

[@dkd1228]

WD-40 was never intended to be a lubricant. Convair used it in the '50s to retard corrosion on the original stainless steel SM-65 Atlas ICBM, the "WD" meaning "Water Displacement".

[@allwaizeright9705]

24:00 is where the CHIME is at.

[@MxArgent]

These are arcade games, but I've always thought Takumi's games were the crown champion of score inflation. Score on the coin-op version of Mars Matrix topped out at 999,999,999,990 and they had to add *another* place for the Dreamcast port since players ended up hitting that somehow.

[@gorillaau]

Ten points short of 1 quadrillion points? That's a lot of inflation!

[@markboggs334]

I had a broken back glass on United big bowler machine from 1963. St. Louis Ball Bowler created a new one for me 5 years ago, or so. Wasn’t too expensive. Maybe $125. Lower glass on United’s Regal Bowling Alley. The big back glass was in good shape. Check him out.

[@whiskyguzzler982]

There was a meteor shower on the back glass!

[@ocsrc]

Is there a degreaser, or solvent that would dissolve all the gunk ?

[@KevBoneT]

Lots of people use mineral spirits.

[@geofftaylor8913]

Have you ever used graphite powder as a lubricant?

[@stevelibby6852]

I used to own that one. Rand out of room and had to sell a couple :(

[@jasonsteverson4609]

Hey Ron!!

[@naytch2003]

Rest in Peace Queen Elizabeth II 👑

[@LyonsArcade]

Very classy lady!

[@naytch2003]

@@LyonsArcade Yes..96 not a bad innings neither

[@Simcore999]

👍

[@LyonsArcade]

Thank you for watching Ash!

[@coasterbp]

Not sure why you haven't started a line of "Come on now, people...." merchandise. When you do and get rich from it, you're welcome.

[@whiskyguzzler982]

WD-40 Good for spraying shovels.

[@wackyworldofwindios3476]

Howdy Ron

[@michaelvonharten7633]

who needs computers when you have lots of relays

[@stephenkamin1345]

@20:50 those are forward slashes in the url...lol - Come on now!

[@LyonsArcade]

You heard me

[@fred_derf]

I don't think the fake-reels are spaced further apart, I think it's just an optical illusion because the real reels have teeth on them.

[@LyonsArcade]

You may be correct Fred!

[@fred_derf]

@@LyonsArcade I really just wanted to say "real reels" and have it make sense... 🙂

[@naytch2003]

😁

[@lileveretteyoakumiii]

Hello Yodelayheehoo

[@atmazee]

Humans can engineer some cool mechanical things. A shame a lot of this functionality is packed inside plastic chips nowadays.

[@gorillaau]

Yet, but I hate to clean the contacts on a silicon chip. :-)

[@palmssr]

I really enjoy the videos here but I started to cringe a little when I saw some of the repair techniques being used. I personally would never recommend using sandpaper to clean contacts or putting grease and lubricants all over the place. Most EM pinball parts were designed to run “dry” without lubricants. Using lubricants will “fix” stuck stepper units for the short to middle term but you will eventually have the same problem again with the lubricants attracting tons of dirt and or eventually drying out and becoming gooey. What has worked best for me for the longterm repair of stepper units is to fully disassemble, clean all parts in turpentine or rubbing alcohol to remove all the old lubrication and dirt, thoroughly clean and let dry, reassemble and then never lubricate ever again. Using sandpaper or a file for cleaning contacts or connectors is way too aggressive and unnecessary in my opinion. Sandpaper leaves a lot of fine scratches and groves in the printed circuit board traces and contacts. This can lead to worse contact between the traces and the wiper contacts, encourages electrical arcing and thus speeds up oxidation and it also becomes a place where dirt can accumulate. Better, in my opinion is to use a simple everyday eraser to remove oxidation, just erase it away. And for removing grease use a rag with a small amount of turpentine or rubbing alcohol to wipe it away. And above all do not put grease all over the printed circuit board or any electrical contacts! All lubricants, including Dielectric grease, are insulators do not conduct electricity. Over time the any grease or lubricant will cause the connection between the contacts to fail! I have fixed a lot of pinball machines where this was the cause of a lot of problems. Dielectric grease is intended to be used as a sealant, insulator, and protectant for things like battery terminals once they have been connected and not for wiper switches. Again, in my opinion you should keep all parts of the stepper unit dry and free from lubricants, especially the electrical contacts. Anyway that’s just my 2 cents and I hope did not offend anyone here, I just wanted to share some additional repair techniques that have served me well for insuring a longer lasting repair :-)

[@LyonsArcade]

You think so?

[@robertprice5038]

Need some lighting so we can see what your talking about.

[@LyonsArcade]

Go watch somebody else who does it the way you would do it, thanks

[@robertprice5038]

@@LyonsArcade WOW! I would have thought that since you put in the time to show what you were having to check and how it works you would have liked for us to see it but instead I get a come back like this. I wanted to see what you were talking about and pointing out so I would understand the machines. Thanks for showing your true colors.

[@wilholloway7876]

I've GOT to know what machine is next Strikes and Spares....

[@LyonsArcade]

That is a Williams Student Prince EM

[@DjResR]

What if someone gets more than 100k points?_

[@SteveJones172pilot]

There's usually a light that lights up and says "100,000" next to the player score.. Not sure if this particular machine has it or not. If you score 200k, you're out of luck.. no 200k light!!

[@LyonsArcade]

Don't get more than 100k points

[@StargazerFromBC]

Thank you for the video :) Now, if those Spacecrafts were still in orbit since 1975 (that's when the Apollo-Soyuz happened), they'd look as decrepit as the back glass looks today, so it's the authentic look :)

[@Jason-lx3zu]

Haha that's a great way to look at it!

[@KevBoneT]

www.pinballrebel.com/pinball/cards/ Those are not backslashes. Love, Karen

[@SteveJones172pilot]

My big pet peeve... URLs NEVER have "backslashes" it is ALWAYS a forward slash.. 🙂 Backslashes come into play in windows shares ( \\server\share\folder ) or windows drive letters (C:\Windows\System32)

[@LyonsArcade]

You think so?

[@naytch2003]

Honestly..who gives a flying fk if they aren't backslashes...😆