M.A.S #11 | REVIEW: Graphgear 1000 vs Rotring 800 - The sensible Challenger | Mechanical Pencils

[@gideon3839]

I owned the graphgear 1000 many years ago, this pencil works by clicking the top and it’ll expose the pen tip with a mechanism that holds the pen clip in place. Its biggest flaw is the holding mechanism of the pen clip , when you use the pencil frequently, it’ll eventually wear out the plastic inside that hold the pen clip in place … and when it’s worn out it’ll be annoying as hell because the pen tip will retract backwards everytime you write due to the insecured pen clip. But no deny that this is a great pencil regardless of its flaw

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

I'll pin this comment, it's great info! Thanks for sharing.

[@ToxicSocietyTroll]

I owned a graphgear 1000 for 10 years and clicked the hell out of it with anxiety and it never had issues. Maybe the new ones are cheaper?

[@gideon3839]

@@ToxicSocietyTroll I bought mine 12 years ago, if so , maybe I just got unlucky with my purchase 🥲

[@jamilikins5185]

I've had the graphgear 1000 for years and now all of a sudden when I go to draw with it the lead slips back into the pipe or barrel..am I doing something wrong? Maybe its worn out?

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

It could be the mechanism holding the lead is worn out...

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Time stamps: 0:59 Technical Aspects 08:52 Mechanism 13:15 Design Flaws 15:09 Feeling & Sound Test 18:44 Price 19:17 Conclusion

[@M7x0.75]

9:16 Tip about the click noise: press and keep pressed the back button while releasing the clip. I do this to prevent lead breakage due to the impact and to extend the lifespan of inner components

[@geraldmcmullon2465]

I had an old version of the Rotring Rapid Pro (all plastic black) and decided to get a set of GraphGear 1000 with 0.3, 0.5, 0.7 leads. In use the GraphGear are nice to handle and no fatigue when using for long periods.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Indeed... If I were back to uni, I'd get the graph gear over the r800

[@scottsterner4091]

I had the black plastic threaded piece near the tip of the pencil on my graphgear 1000 break, during regular use while the pencil was fully assembled. I was able to carefully super glue it back together, and it’s still a perfectly usable pencil, but it’s definitely something worth noting. To add, I had already owned the pencil for over 5 years at this point, so if I had to replace it instead of being able to fix it, I would’ve absolutely gotten my money’s worth

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

I think 5 years is a good time! Specially that you didn't lose it before.

[@mauriciolacruz]

I own both and, although both feel very solidly built, I do prefer the Rotring 800 by far because of its overall design, robustness, feel in the hand... It's just my choice. I hate that extremely protruding (and cheapy feeling) clip on the Pentel GraphGear 1000. Besides, its automatic retractable tip (by clicking the clip), makes me think that it might breaks over time of usage and it will be prone to break leads as well.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks for your comment! I couldn't agree more.

[@sebit2874]

Good comparison, congratulations! I own both, the first time I had R800, 0.5, 0.7, black and for a few months I also have G1000, 0.5, 0.7, 0.9. In my opinion both are very good. G1000 are more beautiful and use smart sheet metal technology solutions but less expensive for an excellent product. R800 looks more technical and uses expensive machining technology solutions and therefore the price difference. G1000 is more convenient, I really like to write and make hand sketches with it. For technical drawing I use R800, it seems more suitable. Good job, keep it up!

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thabks for your nice comment! Indeed both have their advantages, I'd totally use the G1000 for everyday writing as it's lighter too.

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

Smart sheet metal technology? Wth is that even supposed to mean? Plus the looks is subjective. I think the Rotring looks way better personally

[@LordVankisher]

Graphgear 500 is ligthweight than gg1000. I use much more the GG 500

[@paulmatsushima7473]

At 12:06 the eraser sleeve is split so u can slide the eraser up and use more of it.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

You can also pull the eraser out, as much as you need, with the sleeve that is not split.

[@alanmauriciomoralesascenci2132]

i was so close to buy the rotring, but the clicking at 18:20 just triggers me and since it is a very heavy thing (the graphgear is already heavy for me) i would regret it, thanks for this video, u saved me

[@alanmauriciomoralesascenci2132]

and the graphgear has an extra part u didnt noticed or didnt know about, at 10:55 u can separate the plastic part and the metal part, u must twist it, mine broke there, not for taking it apart, i believe is because it fell of, but just to let u know

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Hey glad I could help! Also thanks for the feedback regarding the Graphgear, I hope this useful for other people as well!

[@S1mplector]

Nicely done video, great effort! My personal preference is the 800, I still like the 1000 though.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks for your comment! Indeed, I'd take the 800, but I'd keep the 1000 for everyday use if I were a student or needed to write a lot 😁

[@Gma7788]

Lunacy. Graphite WAS mixed with binder material, in the factory 🏭 You must lay down enough material to get a fine layer of graphite deposited on to the paper.

[@sadmanislam5111]

Great pencil ✏️ I love using the graphgear 1000 it is a lovely pencil. Very good technical review.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks man! Indeed, I was surprised by its performance!

[@arapaimagold8088]

R800 by landslide, that gold tip worth more than the whole GG1000.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Haha it's looking good indeed

[@EssexCountyPhoto]

Great video, thank you! I just got two Rotring 600 0.7mm pencils via Amaz⁰n UK, under £20 each, and one 600 ballpoint. I would love a nice 800... 👍🏻

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks for your comment! Cool, the 600 is a classic. For some the 800 is not matching, for others the 600. I hope you find the right one for you! That's a great price btw

[@EssexCountyPhoto]

@@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867 ...funny enough... my next purchase might be the matching blue and red 600 pencils to go with my green and black ones! 🤣👍🏻

[@redding4540]

@@EssexCountyPhoto I returned rotring 800 because of wobbly clicking mechanism. I ordered rotring 600 3in1 from jetpen instead....I'm loving it so far.

[@franxexcoel6170]

I have both ROTRING600 and GRAPHGEAR1000. For me sketching/drawing is for G1000 and writing/lettering is for ROTRING.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Exactly, each Tool as its benefits.

[@TR052]

King vs king Good video 👍

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Haha exactly, I keep the R800 though, 😁

[@TR052]

@@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867 yep I prefer graphgear 1000 for technical drawing I prefer r800 for writing and study lessons Both excellent

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

That's a cool idea, also they complement for sure. If I had to go to an exam, I'd take the Graphgear. The R800 is too heavy to write much under pressure. Maybe the high grip is great to draw with technical precision, as it's easier to see what you do. I use the R800 only for calculations and to enjoy drawing some circuits ideas 😁

[@mmarjisr]

I disagree on how long you can write with both of them with so little weight difference between both of them you can write for hours with either or. I have the rotring 800 rotring rapid pro and the graphgear 1000 for 3 1/2 years now and I don't feel that much of a difference when writing when it comes to the weight

[@grimgrimxv9380]

I used both the rotring 600 and graphgear 1000 for years, the rotring broke first because I dropped and bent the tip, but I think I can fix it by buying another tip yet too lazy to do it. I then use the graphgear for years but after I dropped it the pencil stopped retracting. After watching this I think I'll pick up the 800 if it's on sale, seems like a durable pencil.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Yes, just be sure to retract the tip of the R800 everytime you're finished using it. Otherwise, you're in the same situation. You'll also notice the heavier weight of the R800, which I particularly prefer.

[@mmarjisr]

ice you did Graphgear 1000 vs Rotring 800, but next time compare them with the Rotring rapid Pro which I like better cause the sleeve retracts as the lead gets shorter I have all 3 of them

[@pierceholston6639]

Between these two pencils, which would you recommend for figure drawing? I'm trying to be an artist, any help here would be greatly appreciated thanks.

[@bhuuthesecond]

I know you weren't asking me, but wooden pencil my friend. For figure drawing, organic shapes and proportions are important. Not strict technical precision and accuracy like in engineering.

[@smithgeorge6858]

imo graph 1000 or smash from pentel is way better than graphgear 1000 Graph1000 and smash is a great competitor against rotring 500 or 600

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks for your comment!

[@noufalnasser2515]

Great review Thank-you so much

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Glad you liked it! 😁

[@Gma7788]

Wrong.

[@Humbleyoself69]

I would definitely pick graphgear 1000 over 800 any day don't get me wrong 800 is a beautiful design but i love the graphgear design better for my hand and my taste. It feels great the 800 is a smaller pencil to me the rapid pro is up there with the graphgear but of course it's different for all people.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks for your comment! It is indeed a taste thing, and also ergonomics plays a big role!

[@AsBi1]

@4:15 do you have any idea what center of mass is? you just took center of length and assumed its center of mass.. lol

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Hm I'd suggest you to delete the comment and think again before writing, or let it be written and look like someone who has no clue. There's not much to say, basically if I took the "center of length" I'd measure the length and divide it by two, would be more practical don't you think? Maybe there's something more than just the length which tilts the pen in one side or the other... Maybe... Hmm

[@AsBi1]

@@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867 sorry my bad, i didn't know you already checked the center of mass, i though you are taking center of length and saying its center of mass, i was watching video in hurry.

[@SlawekZawislak]

But Graphgear is ugly...

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Hahah could be also yeah