M.A.S #7 | REVIEW: ICON vs FASHION - Rotring 600 vs 800 - Mechanical Pencils

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Timestamps: 1:09 Technical Aspects 5:58 Mechanism (Inside) 11:09 Mechanism (Outside) 14:02 Feeling and Sound Test 15:31 Price 15:48 Conclusion

[@oldestries]

I still got my Tikky II from highschool. Im now 38.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

To be honest, I had to Google it! I remember I always wanted that one but was too rare /expensive to get at that time. Cool to hold it for such a long time 😁

[@leandrompradof]

Fantastic video! As an engineering student, loved the analysis

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Hey! Thanks, glad you liked it. Yeah as engineers we go deeper into taking things apart haha more videos are coming!

[@taywil64A]

One of the more informative videos on the Rotring 600 v 800 models. Very well presented indeed.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for your comment.

[@Humbleyoself69]

To be honest both are in my collection and love them both, of course the 600 I use for my sketches and the 800 I use for writing and honestly the 800 does wobble a tiny bit but I barely notice it while writing since that's what I really use it for and 600 for my more precise needs

[@ei..]

Just ordered a rotring 800. Have never used anything other than cheap almost disposable mechanical pencils, so can't wait to try something proper! I study graphic design, and commute every day, so the retractable tip seemed like a must for me

[@JShel14]

@2:28 Listen to that thud when the 800 drops. Such a satisfying sounding.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Indeed!

[@toequantumspace]

You deserve much more subs! Excellent review!

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks! I highly appreciate your comment, glad you liked it!

[@govindanchandran5326]

I like Really liked the 2 Rotring Mechanical pencils:600, 800 Analysis A lot... Thank you.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

I'm glad you liked it!

[@stanleyandi6420]

The most comfortable position to hold the pencil are at it's balance point and at the half of the balance point (measured from the tip of the lead to the balance point).... I personally prefer a pencil with the balance point located closer to the tip, although i can adapt well by holding them on it's balance point or at it's half of the balance point

[@juancarlosl4133]

I listened another review and I listened the same as you say: it is preferred that the most of the weight to be closer to the tip of the pencil. But for the reviewer of this video, it is not the same. For him it is better when the balance point it is just in the center of the pencil 🤔

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Hey! For sure is a personal preference. What I don't like about the balance point being so low, is that it feels "heavier" to the fingers, and therefore I'm slower or rather uncomfy. Being higher or where the pencil touches the palm, gives you a lighter feeling in the fingers which is better to write things down, so you don't get tired so fast. Maybe you can test some pens you already have, balance them and compare them to see what you like best!

[@mauriciolacruz]

Great review! 👍🏻 I'd have liked you to include the Rapid Pro in this in-deep comparison as well. By the way, I find a lower (towards the tip) center of gravity (balance point) to give a better handling and writing experience in general, so what for you is a "cons" in the 600, for me is a "pro".

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks man! Most likely in my next video I'll compare the Rapid Pro vs the 800 as I don't have the 600 anymore. Funny enough I wanted to like the 600 but the reason why I couldn't like it was the center of gravity. I found I had to drag the pencil when writing, whilst with the 800 it felt easier to write with, like my hand flows even if it feels heavier haha. Stay tuned for the Rapid Pro comparison! 😉

[@mauriciolacruz]

@@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867 Well, being the Rapid Pro a retractable tip mechanical pencil like the 800 is, I guess the comparison between these two will have even more sense than with the 600. I've ordered several units of the 600 and am looking forward to receive them and test them. Can't wait! What I mainly like from this model (600) is the solidity/robustness in general (apparently it doesn't suffer from any play/wobble/rattle of the tip and cap, unlike it happens with the other two.) Nontheless, I'll order some more units of the 800 and Rapid Pro models as well, so that to "complete" my collection of Rotring mechanical pencils. Looking forward to watch your next video comparing those two beauties! 😉👍🏻 Thanks and stay safe mate!

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Indeed I can tell you, the 600 feels more solid and doesn't rattle / have any play at all. Having a collection of these nice pencils sounds good haha Thanks mate, take care yourself as well! Cheers!

[@SevenDeMagnus]

Cool, which is your favorite of the two? God bless.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

In my case I prefer the R800. The clicking doesn't bother me. It feels more natural in my hand. The R600 feels unspectacular. Thanks for commenting!

[@SevenDeMagnus]

@@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867 So cool, 800 I bet also has the more secure feeling coz' the point if it slips (these two are quite small in person and thin but cool enough) can easily break like a techpen (I think there should be a thick carpet, similar to how fountain pen people set things up) but w/ the 800 you can retract them. I did get the black R600 as a gift by one Rotring's dealership (an amazing blessing in disguise, I did suggest things that were innovative to their client Rotring. It was supposed to be just a Tikky but I guess there were lots of suggestions which tool a bit of time but time well worth it).

[@PedroPauloAlmeida0]

Fantastic video!! Thank you so much!

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

I'm glad you liked it, thanks for watching!

[@filiphaj2947]

Great review! I think ill go for the 800, thanks

[@EranBuhbut]

Vey informative! Thanks!

[@mamadetaslimtorabally7363]

Great review. Very helpful. Thanks a lot.

[@rajivravio]

Nice analysis, please do one on the rotring 600 3 in 1 next!

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks for the suggestion, you mean the Tikky 3 in 1?

[@rajivravio]

@@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867 no, they released a 3 in 1 version of the 600 it is currently available only in Japan. It is easily imported from Amazon Japan. Just purchased one for myself and it’s coming next week!

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Alright! I'll check it out, thanks for the info!

[@M7x0.75]

Rotring 600 definitely feels rock solid. If you want a lighter solid pencil, try pentel graph 1000 (not graphgear 1000). I took pages of calculus and algebra annotations for hours with rotring 600, but never felt any kind of discomfort related to its weight.

[@tentinquarantino2535]

hey! great video -- what lead grade were you using with the pencils? thanks!

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Hey thanks! I use 2B, as it doesn't require much force to write.

[@tentinquarantino2535]

@@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867 awesome!

[@88SKYDragon]

Great review, awesome! By the way, do you know where I can get parts for Rotring mechanical pencils?

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks man! Oh sorry I can't help you with that. I'd try with ebay, usually you can find it there, maybe getting a used one and replacing the part yourself.

[@88SKYDragon]

@@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867 thank you. I might try that, but is an old pen, we´ll see. Cheers!

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Maybe you can contact them directly. Some companies are really cool and can send you parts even for free. Try to attach a picture and you'll see. They sometimes value customers who keep their products long time.

[@juanmorelli8703]

Thank you for the great explanations

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Glad you liked it!

[@mauriciolacruz]

What I don't like on the 600 is the eraser cap being hollow (having a hole) on the top instead of being solid. Also the clutch housing / inner thread should have been made out of metal as well, like the rest of parts. Other than that, this is my top #1 and I love it.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Indeed, those are some points of why I decided to go for the 800. To me, it's the perceived quality also what matters. And for some reason, I can write smoother with the 800 vs the 600... I can't tell precisely why.

[@mauriciolacruz]

@@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867 But apparently the 800 (and all retractable tip mechanical pencils in general) suffer from wobble / rattle / play on their tips (and also sometimes on the back part), making them far less precise / accurate / solid than fixed tip mechanical pencils like the Rotring 600. And that's the reason why I decided to go for the 600 and skip the 800 and Rapid Pro (the latter also for having plastic thread).

[@bahrifight7797]

A late response but the hole is to avoid eraser being dried so it stays soft

[@mauriciolacruz]

@@bahrifight7797 Thank you. I love this mechanical pencil. 👍🏻

[@turkishboy5815]

Rotring 600 + more expensive + retractable lead sleeve + new eraser = rotring 800

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Indeed, but don't forget the negatives too! All in all I prefer the 800 😁

[@turkishboy5815]

@@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867 my think both good pencils 800 have retractable lead sleeve if better than 600 for daily use 800 Lead more safer than 600 lead

[@edhgarhall9758]

sabes como desensamblar el jotter by parker?

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Creo que no se puede sin romperlo. Nunca lo intenté forzar. Para qué necesitas abrirlo?

[@mohamedabdelsalam6094]

You use 2b or 4b

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

I use 2B.

[@mohamedabdelsalam6094]

But it's looking darker than my 2b My lead from rotring. You use another brand

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

I use Rotring. Don't forget the camera light may be different.

[@mohamedabdelsalam6094]

@@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867 thanks for your feedback 🙏

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

No problem!

[@Sim.Drifter_Yt]

14:40 bu adam gördüğüm en tatli 8 i çiziyor 😅😂

[@XtianApi]

Nice handwriting

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Haha thanks! Even though I consider it just a normal everyday one.

[@savedfaves]

You sure they’re made in Japan? I think it’s a German company.

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Hey thanks for your comment. Yes the pencil is made in Japan, but the company is German.

[@Asunder09]

Great video! thank you for the much-needed insight!

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks for your comment! =)

[@actually4660]

Nice pens

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks!

[@krishgujaran3987]

Rotring not from japan they are from Germany.

[@zhangtony6307]

Rotring is from Germany by the manufacturing process has since been moved to Japan.

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

I think the 800 is a great product, it started as the 600 retractable, as a way to make it pocket safe and fit for portability, without worrying about damaging the tip. I really like both of them

[@m.a.s.engineeringgadgets4867]

Thanks for your comment! Do you feel it differently on the hand? Somehow I like the feeling of the 800 better, like I can swing it better while writing. The 600 I feel it's too compact, too solid.