M-Musi Virgo Classic T - What's under the hood?!

[@davidviau2522]

What a wonderful video J-MAN - Thank you so much for putting this out there, I have ordered this guitar wanting to rebuild my collection after all my equipment was stolen a while back - this guitar looks like an amazing entry point for any people who enjoy modding their instruments / upgrading stuff. Can't wait to receive it. Your input is highly valuable and I cannot wait to receive this one and work on it! Already thinking about making some mods to the pickup selectors (change to parallel wiring instead of series) and maybe change pickups eventually. Cheers mate!

[@j-man9457]

Hey Cool David! Thanks for watching. Glad I could help! Sorry to hear about your stolen guitars / gear! Not cool! The Musi's are great. I have 4 of them Haha! 2 Classics, 1 Fusion, and 1 Capricorn Fusion! They are all my go to guitars now!😀

[@davidviau2522]

@@j-man9457Glad to hear that you enjoy them that much! These look quite fun indeed! I see you have a rework video for that one so gotta check it out! You seem to know your way around and I like how you explain stuff, very simple!

[@j-man9457]

@@davidviau2522 thanks I'm a pretty simple guy haha. Lot's of fun!

[@theguitarprofessionals8584]

GOT to CHECK the HOOD!!!!!!!!!!! Great JOB!!!!!!!!!!!

[@j-man9457]

Thanks Brother!

[@theguitarprofessionals8584]

HoodCheckers Union 6969

[@j-man9457]

@@theguitarprofessionals8584 now there's a good union! What's the medical and dental like?🤣

[@theguitarprofessionals8584]

They have the frequency that reconfigures your cells and kills the bacteria in your mouth and heals your teeth

[@j-man9457]

@@theguitarprofessionals8584 hahaha I'm in!

[@dratonbalat3423]

In my opinion, it's better to use clockwise and counterclockwise than left and right to describe rotational movement. Otherwise left right right left right right left left becomes how George Costanza in Sienfeld tried to confuse his boss of which leg is crippled viewing it in a mirror😂😂😂

[@j-man9457]

Hahaha! Yup won't make that mistake again... the cool thing about making mistakes is the learning opportunity they provide! And I learn alot! Hahaha

[@hunterscott7592]

I have several of these, but I paid $250 each. Very nice guitars, especially for the money. Frets are awesome

[@j-man9457]

Wow man! 250 is a steal for these! Where are you from? Not Canada that's for sure haha. Here after taxes they are just over $500! Rock on man! J

[@hunterscott7592]

Southern California, I met an Asian company that brings them in. Very decent guitars!!

[@j-man9457]

@@hunterscott7592 wow good for you man! At that price, buy them all lol!😎🤟 Enjoy!

[@zuperdee]

On the original 1950’s Telecasters, Leo Fender himself didn’t originally use a ground wire. Technically, there is no need for one on a Telecaster, since the back plate of the T-bridge pickup is electrically connected to the bridge itself through the mounting screws. So it is possible that Musi doesn’t need one either. You could check all the wire connections and try cleaning the pots, but for the price of the guitar, I think I would exchange it-a brand new guitar shouldn’t have noise issues like that! I still say sell your EART, IYV, and Ammoon, if this one turns out to be a keeper! 😂

[@j-man9457]

Yeah not sure... I think this one needs a ground wire.... I checked with Amazon. They told me they would give me a partial refund if I agreed to keep it. So, it's a keeper lol!

[@zuperdee]

@@j-man9457 Sweet! You already clearly know how to fix the minor setup issues like the neck backbow… Now, if you can figure out and successfully fix the grounding issue, I’d say it’s a keeper, too! In terms of features and craftsmanship (electrical issues notwithstanding), this is clearly one of the best new T-style clones you’ve reviewed lately! In terms of craftsmanship, I think this one and the 2BM-Modified LyxPro are probably the 2 best guitars you have now, in my mind. One question: Is the neck pocket standard Fender-spec? I’d be willing to bet that it is, save for that notch where the truss rod adjustment wheel is under the 22nd fret extension lip… But good to be sure, in case you ever need to replace the neck like you did on the IYV. I do NOT think that would ever be likely on the Musi though, since the roasted maple should theoretically be almost totally immune to temperature and humidity changes.

[@j-man9457]

@@zuperdee yeah I would agree with you on never having to change this neck. It's one of the nicest necks I've seen on a guitar in a long time regardless of price! They hit this one out of the park! Lol

[@TONESEEKER7]

First, I a strat style man. Main reason is because the arm and body cuts. I love this M Musi Virgo because it has all the same body and heel cuts as my Suhr Standard Plus. (My favorite and most dependable). I brought my Virgo in Nov 22' and my daughter got me the Capricorn for Xmas. On my Virgo the bridge wiring would not switch fro middle position, bad switch. But, i still took only it to a gig. With no neck or saddle adjustments, straight out the box. I brought a whole new prewired plate and replaced the input jack (very hard to pull the chord out) after the gig. Less than $30.00 for the changes, middle position has a push-pull bass boost. Overall I'm loving this brand because of the body, neck and fret work. They feel really good are easy to play. Any electronics upgrades are to be expected at this price point. I liked this video and will check out your other ones.

[@j-man9457]

Hey TONESEEKER7! Cool name😁 yes these are amazing guitars! You're right that some upgrades are to be expected but from what I can see not many upgrades will be needed 😀

[@grandelfe]

You are achieving a nice collection of Telecasters. I played my Squire "Classic Vibe" Stratocaster last night, and then played my IYV Thinline Tele right afterwards, and was left with the feeling that my 175 dollar IYV sounded better, has a nicer action, and stays in tune better. A good budget guitar is the way to go, and cheaper is often better. I would phone vendor and get a discount, and if one person refuses, phone again until you get your way. I like that you are fussy, and want decent quality control, for your hard earned cash.

[@j-man9457]

Yeah I agree. The brand name guitars are not what they used to be, or maybe they are, but with budget guitars becoming so good now, it just feels like the brand name stuff's quality has diminished... I'm keeping this one. Amazon said they would give me a partial refund if I agreed to keep it. 😀

[@grandelfe]

​@@j-man9457 Back in the 1970's, I had to rely on Gibson's, and Fenders, that were abused by their former owners, and were cheaper to buy. My 57 Stratocaster had 3 coats of yellow paint, had no Fender logo, and looked like crap. My ES335 had a broken neck that was repaired. My Martin had holes in it. They sounded good though, and I learned how to play on them.

[@mrofnocnon]

Glad you saw your truss rod error, not biggie. Looks a good guitar for the money.

[@j-man9457]

Haha yeah rookie mistake! These guitars are amazing! Their Fusion telecasters are even more amazing! Don't know how they do it. 😀

[@wasteddude9387]

I'm super curious about any response you got from Amazon regarding the condition of this guitar.

[@j-man9457]

I got no response from Amazon... Musi saw my video, and reached out to me. They offered a partial refund for the noise issues or a free Fusion Telecaster. I took the free fusion hahaha!

[@bjunk5344]

Looks like it was a better deal with this compared to a Squire Tele?

[@j-man9457]

None of the mexican, CV, or Indonesian squires I've ever owned came close to this Musi! Crazy good! And those body contours, wow! Other than blacking mine out, I'm still gigging it with stock electronics amd pickups! Can't say that for any squire I've ever owned hahaha!

[@Paulmccarthy6801]

To me what I see looks like a ground wire not connected to anything on my left your right. Probably from the input jack.

[@j-man9457]

Hey Paul, Everything was connected and well soldered. However, there was no ground wire to the bridge. Simple fix and now the guitar is nice and quiet! 😆 Thanks for watching! J

[@Paulmccarthy6801]

@@j-man9457 I knew I saw something loose couldn’t quite make it out though. I’m happy you figured out the problem. Great player by the way. Keep up the good work.

[@j-man9457]

@@Paulmccarthy6801 Thanks man! Much appreciated

[@flppr1]

Thx for the video. Subscribed. Ate you still happy with this guitar? Did you do the grounding yourself?

[@j-man9457]

Yes and yes! Haha Teles are the easiest guitars to work on!

[@flppr1]

There's a used one in "very good" condition where you bought yours, for $283. I want to buy my first tele soon. Should I get it?

[@j-man9457]

@@flppr1 where are you located?

[@flppr1]

@@j-man9457 San Diego, USA. If it matters, i am a novice guitar player with novice guitar mod/repair skills.

[@j-man9457]

@@flppr1 ahhh I was only asking because I have 2 black Musi classics here and I selling one for 300 CAD. I'm in Canada though. It's a good price for the one you're looking at. If the previous owner didn't mess it up or steal parts off of it it should be fine hahaha... If itxs from Amazon, if it's not good you can send it back right?

[@michaelbevins2405]

OH Man does this guy got o c d or what ,The guitar is great ,as good as it gets,For 500 measley bucks its amazeing! My gibson had lots of saw dust in it and no ground wire to bridge ,Cost a heck of alot more than 500 bucks x 3.

[@j-man9457]

These are awesome guitars inside and out😄

[@demodeiowa]

Is there any finish on the fretboard?

[@j-man9457]

No not as far as I can tell. It's roasted maple😁

[@2bikemikesguitartopics145]

I don't think you got an open box. Because those type of pickups do not come with plastics on them. Emmanuel is probably a standard manual for any and all guitars they have. Only neck pickups that are the standard lipstick ones that have Chrome on it come with the plastic. Open pickups never have plastic on a telly

[@zuperdee]

That might explain the lack of plastic on the pickups, but it doesn’t explain the lack of plastic on the pickguard.

[@po5541]

Thx I may have to get this guitar

[@j-man9457]

Layne, if you're in the market for a high end tele at low end prices, you can't go wrong lol! Plus as far as I know, they can only be purchased through Amazon so if you don't love it, send it back for a full refund. That was my plan all along haha.... to buy it then send it back but I can't stop playing it haha it's like it was built for me. Although playable out of the box, I had to set it up to suit my style of playing... the action was way too low for me when I got it! If you get one, let me know what your first impressions are and how you like it. Just curious to see if they are all good, or if I just gor lucky and got one of the good ones...?!

[@j-man9457]

Layne, if you're in the market for a high end tele at low end prices, you can't go wrong lol! Plus as far as I know, they can only be purchased through Amazon so if you don't love it, send it back for a full refund. That was my plan all along haha.... to buy it then send it back but I can't stop playing it haha it's like it was built for me. Although playable out of the box, I had to set it up to suit my style of playing... the action was way too low for me when I got it! If you get one, let me know what your first impressions are and how you like it. Just curious to see if they are all good, or if I just gor lucky and got one of the good ones...?!

[@bobwalsh84]

I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. I only wish you were not so "chatty". The info you covered is good but dude, you do not have to go over the same info 10 times. I feel like I watched 30 minutes of video to gain 10 minutes of knowledge about the product. That being said, I placed an order for one in part because your movie backed up all I was hearing about the guitar. Thank you for taking the time. Remember, sometimes Less is more!

[@j-man9457]

Hahaha I know Bob! It's a curse! I personally am a detail fanatic and I'm always worried to leave detail out but I have to remember some people don't care about that 🙄 working on it! Great guitars, Enjoy!

[@A-Wall]

Hmm, while you hope something is closer to perfect at this price point, at least the changes/mods you'd have to do to make it perfect are more along the lines of fun and cheap rather than serious and expensive. Overall once you dial it in I think it will kick the Eart's butt!

[@j-man9457]

Yeah not worried! It's really good and well made.

[@joemanuel5053]

I have this guitar and a Fender the same color this guitar in my opinion is better built not even counting the stainless steel frets the fender has the fender tex-mex pickups and it sounds good but its not as well built as the musi telecaster

[@j-man9457]

Cool Joe, Thanks for commenting! I agree 100% Fenders have gone up in price substantially whereas the quality has not! These musis are super good and the price is incredible!😀

[@tswrench]

Looks more like a P90 rout in the neck position.

[@j-man9457]

I habe a humbucker sized P90 home that fits in there, and I don't think it's a mini. I've had it so long I can't remember...

[@pastorkev777]

These are $299 right now on Amazon

[@j-man9457]

What? No way! Oh wait, you're not in Canada.... US? If these were 300$ here in canada, I'd buy 2! Here on Amazon.ca, they are $540.50 after taxes in PEI. That's an awesome price man! Grab one they are amazing🤩

[@pastorkev777]

@@j-man9457 I bought one earlier and then looked up a video later, lol. Yeah even a year ago I would say, well you could have a friend in the US buy one and ship it to you, but shipping to Canada has gotten wild.

[@j-man9457]

@@pastorkev777 yeah I have family in Connecticutt, but with exchange rate, duty taxes and shipping, there is no savings ordering from the US...

[@pastorkev777]

@@j-man9457 makes sense

[@groovetone977]

Wish the color was more blond!!!!!!

[@j-man9457]

Hey Groove tone, It's a really nice vintage blonde color in person. Doesn't show up well on the video, but you can see the wood grain through the finish!

[@zuperdee]

@@j-man9457 Wow!!! This just keeps getting better and better… So this really IS like an original Butterscotch Blonde Telecaster, but with modern refinements like the body contours, contoured heel, stainless steel ball-end frets, and modern pickup design. I really dig it! Now the question is: Have you been able to figure out the noise and grounding issue?

[@j-man9457]

@@zuperdee hey buddy, not yet... haven't looked at it again. After this video I reassembled everything and took it to a 3 hour band practice to see how these pickups would hold up in a band situation. They cut through with punch, clarity and articulation at full band volume. Very impressed!

[@zuperdee]

@@j-man9457 Wow! You’ll have to show this now! BTW, be careful putting the neck back-I wouldn’t be surprised if it has shorter screws for the top than the bottom, to match the contoured heel. You wouldn’t want to put the longer screws where the shorter ones should be and accidentally split the neck wood!

[@j-man9457]

@@zuperdee yup no worries there... they are all the same lenght screws. 😀

[@calbrockocat8728]

$469 CAD + tax is a lot for a no name brand. I would have to compare the fit and finish to the known Yamaha Revstars, who are asking $210 CAD more. They don't have our loyalty, so not replying to emails means no "customer service". Gotta be a hard pass on price and the ugly shielding under the hood.

[@j-man9457]

Hey CB and RC, The fit and finish of this thing is amazing. I played it for 3 hours today at a band practice and the thing sounded fantastic. Contacted amazon about the issues I discovered, and they gave me a partial refund to keep the guitar. It's a keeper!

[@5664788]

I think if you like it,..(the tone is great!),.....you should demand a new one for what you paid,..Its very insulting to send you a used one,.,...It should of had the peel away plastic on all the plastic and pickups!! It should of been in a Styrofoam tight coffin very well packaged,....that was another thing I was impressed by,...how well packaged it was and I knew it was untouched because of the peel plastic on everything,..........I'm not happy about them not contacting you through CS,..................Your very good at modding these things now,..you could always get the fusion model and put a fixed bridge on it,.........either way get the discount through amazon or a new one,....you paid too much to not get a perfect untouched one,......Its really too bad you have to pay so much!! Makes me want to get one for the $359 and send it to you,.....I hate how your charged so much more there!!!

[@j-man9457]

Haha thanks man! Amazon refunded me 80$ and when I bought it, I had a 25$ coupon so all in all, guitar was $419.75 after taxes. Definitely worth that! Need to fix some minor things but to be expected at this price point. I envy you guys amd the price of your guitars lol! However if I lived there it would be dangerous haha I'd be buying more guitars that I don't need hahaha. Thanks for the support man! J