Why Gyroflow makes no sense for action cameras - a DJI Osmo Action 4 example

[@saturn_fpv]

Rocksteady cannot look ahead. Gyroflow can, so it slowly zooms in when needed, but you gain full wide angle / sensor when more stable. Also you have more control over the stabilization and distortion correction in post (smooth out only micro jitters). BTW Action 2 is also supported by Gyroflow.

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello Thanks for the insight. Did not know about OA2. Marry Christmas.

[@po-pi-po]

also better battery life since no intense cpu usage

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Yes. Cheers!

[@SeanMcChannel]

A use case for Gyroflow with action cams may be mounting the action cam to say another camera (like on hotshoe or camera's cage) to capture gyro motion data - as a gyro motion data capture device. Then that data could be used to stabilize video (track motion for fx) recorded by a camera that does not have ability to output gyro data or have built in stabilization.

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Ha! That's a good idea. I'll try it out. Thanks for the comment. Mary Christmas.

[@Maverick99]

No idea that was a thing. Thanks for that one!

[@BrandonBeans]

Gyroflow is amazing. Using in-camera smoothing is completely unusable on a drone but with Gyroflow we can dial in exactly how much smoothing we want or don't want and we can even keyframe the parameters! Also it's available as a plugin so if you don't want to export prores intermediates then you can do single export workflow. 180 degrees shutter if you can operate fairly smoothly, 90 degrees shutter if you're a little bit shaky, up to 45 degrees shutter if bad.

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hey man thanks for sharing. I'm looking into Gyroflow at the moment and it's really amazing. I'll make a technical video as always 😉. Cheers!

[@OaklandTravel]

The built in stabilization on the Dji Action 4 and the Insta360 Ace Pro do not produce the smooth results of Gyroflow; they just don't. It's an extra step in the production but it's worth it.

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. I agree. Gyroflow is so much better. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

[@OaklandTravel]

@@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens maybe you should change the title on the video.. ? If you agree Gryoflow is better than in camera stabilization..

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

@OaklandTravel Ha! The stabilization is better but you still get the pulsing highlights if you use the 180deg shutter rule.

[@bubbabubbab]

Great breakdown! It seems like Gyroflow is more effective than the in-body stabilization (probably just due to the fact that the algorithms can be more accurate as they have more processing power available) but that effectiveness exacerbates the difference between camera movement and frame data. Kind of a catch-22

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Something along that way yes. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

[@_Ankach_]

I have the same problems with 1/200 and 100 fps, And I do not know how to configure it. At my avata drone the same setting working well, but at action 5 it makes really a big problem.

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. If you slow down the 100fps to 25fps you also effectively slow down the recorded shutter speed from 1/200s to 1/50s. This is why the motion blur is visible. I guess you don't have this problem if you don't slow down the video?

[@_Ankach_]

@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens the problem is, that without stabilization it is better then with. With gyroflow it has a lot of blur at the center of footage. My camera setting is 10bit log, 100fps, 1/200, wide, stabilization off. The same settings a have used with my avata drone and it was very smoof

[@_Ankach_]

@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens it looks like the gyroflof adds movements to footage, because the original footage has no movements side to side, but stabilized has. Maybe for 100fps I need to set different shutter and film in better weather conditions.

[@KubaYa1411]

So what if I'll set it to 50fps and 1/100s?

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. This will be better because 1/100s doesn't capture a lot of motion blur. 1/200s would be even better. Cheers!

[@amermeleitor]

Just use a faster shutter speed. The fastest possible in the situation. Add motion blur in post.

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello! That's it. Thanks for the comment. Really appriciate it. Cheers!

[@davidpoo66]

I shot on my Action 4 1/50 4:3 no builtin stabilization with a Thx! slight flickering. I also used a Pro Hohem gimble, should I give up?😮 The low light examples on Utube many are close to perfect!

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Flickering could be due to your electricity frequency. Use 1/50 if you live in Europe and 1/60s if you live in the USA or a place where electricity oscilates with 60Hz.

[@davidpoo66]

@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens Maybe I used the wrong term, like a slight wavey effect. Like the shutter speed may have been to slow? Thx

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Ha! OK. Then use the minimum shutter speed of 1/100s and add motion blur in post.

[@davidpoo66]

@@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens 😊 Thx!

[@Charlie_Timo]

what about the DJI osmo action 1?

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Sorry, no. I think it started with OA3. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

[@MathieuTechMoto]

Very well explained , thank you !

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. You're welcome. Cheers!

[@costas801live]

I also did my tests in low light 1/80 of a second was good enough without excessive shaking of the camera , i think you gain one stop over the rock steady in body stabilization .One stop is not bad . I also tried to stabilize my nikon z6 with the 24-70 zoom lense without success atm

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!

[@anneonimouse]

This was so informative, thank you. Do you have any advice on how to get smoother videos when hiking. I attach my OA4 to my back pack strap so I'm hands free, but I'm disappointed with the bouncy footage. Your help would be so greatly appreciated, cheers

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Try using Gyroflow. The bouncy footage is a problem for all action cameras. Also maybe try using RockSteady + setting. Make sure your shutter speed is at least 1/100s. Even better 1/200s. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

[@paupepro]

Thank you for your interesting explanation! What are you doing against the up and down movements of walking shots? RS and RS+ don't fix that ...

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. That's hard. Gyroflow doe a good job but just walk slowly 😆. Cheers!

[@tech7r]

Thank you so much for explaining I was looking for this informatin to be honest. I have one question. Is it possible to get motion blur with nd filteer and without the flikering ?

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Well that's the main problem. You either have motion blur or no flickering but flickering will be minimal if the camera is not shaking because it's a result of motion blur. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

[@tech7r]

@@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens Thanks a lot brother❤️i got it ❤️

[@qbukhari]

This is very precious video full of serious information Thank you

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Thanks a lot. Cheers!

[@jeswardantonio2]

in essence, is the only way to get rid of the artifacts on action cameras is to use a gimbal?

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Yes. Or a fast shutter speed. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

[@steveoutdoors5964]

Ive been having issues with my gopro hero 10. After 2 years of no issues its now doing some strange things and freezing up when recording. After lots of resets and trying every version of the firmware and different sd cards I figured out that its something to do with the Hypersmooth. If i record without the hypersmooth on the camera works fine. So having discovered this i am now going to try using gyroflow to stabilise my footage in post. It seem the logical option as im not in a position to be buying another action cam at the moment . just installed it and goping to capture some test footage while out and about over coming days.

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Ha! Thanks for sharing. Let me know how it goes ;) Cheers!

[@steveoutdoors5964]

@@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens I will. Most likely do a video fir my channel..Had a lot of lost amd un usable footage from my recent bike rides and airsoft days. Really hope thus solves my problem.

[@Go4Gold1000]

Are you sure that it works also with the Action 3? As far as I know the Action 3 is not compatible to gyroflow

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Hm. I've heard that it does. Not absolutely sure.

[@arunr5529]

thanks for the video . Drives me kind of nuts that you don't have gyro available for lots of different frame rates on the DJI action 4

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Ha! Yeah that would be nice. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

[@elgrubbio]

From a total noob perspective who wants to use this camera on a motorcycle and keep the 'cinematic' motion blur effect. Will using 60 FPS and 1/120 shutter make any difference to keep the effect but improve the image?

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. The motion blur in this case would only be noticeable if you slow the video down to 30fps (1/2 speed) otherwise you won't notice it. So with 60fps you can use a faster shutter speed and still get a smooth video. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

[@mantenbrink]

great video, but the title doesn't make sense after watching. Highlight flickering is only solved by a higher shutter and gyroflow does stabalize better than rocksteady (plus it gives more freedom for settings). So gyroflow does definitely make sense

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Exactly right. There were a lot of comments in my other videos requesting that I make a video about Gyroflow and DJI Osmo action 4. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

[@mtbboy1993]

I don't even need stabilisation for what I do, as I shoot POV mountain biking with Gnartec Ultimate chin mount. I've not heard of Gyroflow. Thanks for sharing this. I won't need that now, but nice to know there's a fix if I need it. But editing software cant fix a rocking camera, rotating camera, So that's why a proper mount is needed for helmet mounted camera. or chest cam, if running around the only solution is a gimbal.

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Nice. I think that action shots should be recorded with a higher framerate and played back with a higher framerate. In this case no motion blur is needed and the stabilisation does it's job very well. Thanks for the comment. Mary Christmas.

[@mtbboy1993]

@@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens YOU Too yea, I always shoot at highest fps, in my 60FPS. I can always tell if a vid is shot at 30 FPS looks choppy, I mean I see it ha missing frames. 60FPS and up and its nice.

[@vikas4685]

I am using Action 4 with gyroflow .. my footage is having gitters still. I don't get these gitters in rocksteady.... literally frustrated

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hello. Make sure the minimum shutter speed is 1/200s. This will not record any motion blur. Cheers!

[@Zentriefugal]

Interesting point. THX

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Thank you. Cheers!

[@MatthewTaylor3]

Gyroflow is always the answer when using an ND filter

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Ha! Yes it is much better then RockSteady. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!

[@MyStepps]

Gyroflow is a extra step in editing, that’s why I have sold my osmo action 4, I wasn’t entirely pleased with the action 4 stability and horizontal leveling, I much prefer, GoPro hero 11 was much much better. Thanks for your video.

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Hallo. Thanks for sharing. Really appreciate it. Cheers!

[@kolymaweb]

плохое видео. не показано какие настройки ставить для камеры. минус

[@M1R0_Life_through_a_lens]

Извините, что вы так думаете, но спасибо за комментарий. Действительно ценю это. Ваше здоровье!