M2 Bradley vs CV90: Which IFV Leads the Future of Combat?

[@jotare]

When Norway was testing the Bradley and CV90 in deep snow, the CV90 was required to tow the Bradley to the testing area. Following the tests, the Bradley needed to be towed back to its starting position. Norway dig go for CV90

[@ingeborgsjon]

I think these videos miss a lot of important details. For example the CV90 has the ADAPTIV anti thermal coat. So it will emitt a much smaller heat signature. Also the CV90 exists in many variants with heavy mortar or real tank barrels.

[@evilfingers4302]

The CV90 is the better IFV than the M2 Bradley, especially since it is known the CV90 is designed to be modular, meaning the CV90 is able to mount various types of weapon systems and the M2 Bradley cannot.

[@ingvartorma9789]

It is already proven that the Swedish CV90 is much better than the American M2 Bradley. Now many Americans will complain that I am wrong. But I don't have it, because as it says in the video, the M2 Bradley is only available in the US. While several countries have chosen CV90. Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland and the Netherlands. In the film it is mentioned that the M2 Bradley is only available in 5 variants, but it is only said that there are a few variants of the CV90, which is not quite right. The CV90 is available in a total of 15 variants.

[@DG-pk3fh]

XM30 has entered the chat

[@tomasmood2012]

I don't think its that easy. They will merge tech and in the future be something else. Nato and Eu ordering specs will have both platforms evolve, the cv90 is currently ahead because of versatility and both use bushmasters in variants. But the bradleys still have good applications.

[@dioghaltasfoirneartach7258]

@ingvartorma9789 It is inferior to the American 🇺🇲 Bradleys, in every aspect. You swedes just need to accept that...just like you need to accept that swedish 🐂💩 about your 'aircraft' jas being 'better' than the American 🇺🇲 F-16...being anything other than just that...🐂💩

[@jimmiekarlsson4458]

CV90 leads the way.

[@Pz.history]

True, hope more european nations gonna buy them. As I see it the way forward is the CV9035

[@robertlangley258]

Both of you need to go back to fourth grade English classes.

[@Rickleveldepression]

No 😂

[@benktlofgren4710]

@@Rickleveldepression No European will buy the old Bradly, Cv90 is better at everything.

[@Rickleveldepression]

@benktlofgren4710 but the cv90 has never killed a t90 with no missiles like the Bradley has

[@N.Sniper]

The Bradley is a very capable and proven vehicle, whereas the CV90 is a newer design. For a while the comparison was interesting. The CV90 had a larger cannon, but no ATGMs. The Bradley was able to also act as an ATGM vehicle allowing it to give ATGM support to the MBTs it accompanies. And the smaller caliber is partly compensated by using DU penetrators for APDS. So for a while I considered them to be equal. However, with the latest CV90 variant having ATGM capacilities, I would pick the CV90 over the Bradley.

[@nTnz_]

CV90 has been used in Afghanistan btw

[@tntfreddan3138]

​@@nTnz_ And it's being used in Ukraine.

[@nTnz_]

@@tntfreddan3138 Yep, 50 of them. And prob 50 more will be sent next year. Ukraine is also setting up a CV90 plant, supposed to produce in start of 2026.

[@jarpa153]

Missed one big thing about the canons, CV90 have also Bofors 40mm auto canon on the older CV90 and if I'm remember it right dozen CV90's with 40mm canon are in Ukraine

[@bfelten1]

The Bushmaster II 30 and III 35 mm are for export versions only. All 600+ by the Swedish army are CV9040, with a gun based on the legendary Bofors lvakan. Far more punch than the 25 mm on the Bradley. Hägglund tested a CV9025 but scrapped the idea. That gun is called the pee-shooter by the conscripts...

[@eherlitz]

There's also a version with 120 mm canon, cv90120

[@bfelten1]

@@eherlitz That is true. However, they have never been ordered. But it sure would close the definition gap between a tank and an infantry fighting vehicle. 🙂

[@MrGulstad]

@@bfelten1 because sweden didnt need it with all the Gustavs laying around and at4 and so on.

[@mattiasglans2527]

They sure missed a lot of best of the 90family. Most common used is also the 40mm canon in sweden

[@DoitsuRyoku]

though with the amount of 9040's being sent to the ukraine, sweden will be replacing their own stockpile with 9030's and because of nato standards will most likely end up replacing all of their 40mm armed cv90's with either 30mm or 50mm guns in the future

[@larseriksson1741]

You can think where you want, but they forgot to mention the Cv90 active camouflage that adapts to the terrain.

[@ivananderson5041]

Both good to have they much better than bmp1 and give the men a better protective ifv

[@jurgen4466]

CV 90 by far the better vehicle!

[@tr0fast280]

How can a big channel like this, try to make a sophisticated video like this and still miss A LOT of facts?

[@donquixote1502]

Ask the Ukrainians...they know! Regardless, as a Swede, I have understood that Bradley does a fantastic job and really save lives. That is the best judgement it can get. There are also a few videos from Ukraine that says the CV90 does the same.

[@MrGulstad]

ukraines problem with the veichles 300 plus bradleys and some 50-60 cv90. wich veichle would you use more selective and the other all guns blazing so the yanks can believe they have better product....

[@lowriderfrank1]

@@MrGulstad Your literally trying to state that the Swed's made a better IFV and the Americans demand we acknowledge theirs to be the best.... LOL, Both made by BAE Systems to the customers orders for their type of terrain, not ego, both are great IFV's in their own right, no country bashing needed...

[@stupidburp]

Bradley has a bit better protection. CV90 has a bit better mobility on soft ground. Both are excellent platforms.

[@crazymilitaryaircraft-q9e]

proud to be the first to comment. good video 😄😄😄

[@jordanroberts7692]

I thought Bradley was on its way out

[@jasonbrack2042]

Sooooo you're asking us which one we prefer after you've handed us the facts, you're telling me there's a contest here?

[@douglassshephard3732]

Cv90 all the way, when I was in the military I met troops that had to work with it, by now all the bugs are out of it but back then you couldn't give me to get in one.

[@bestamerica]

' both are good arms weapons vehicles

[@dudeebumblebee7197]

Well, both are good monsters, proving to represent quality. Both far outmatching eastern plateboxes with the same role.

[@meibing4912]

Just give me a handful of CV90's - thank you. Missing here is btw price and availability.

[@rolyantrauts2304]

Its obviously the CV90 considering the Bradley is already obselete, we will have to see when the XM30 Mechanized Infantry Combat Vehicle is in the wild for a better comparison.

[@N.D.1984]

The real question is: which of the two will lead the next trophy exhibition in Moscow?

[@morgansjodin4859]

We should be happy that both systems exist in NATO as well as everything else that we complement each other with. And now that Sweden is a full member, I know that the latest technology will benefit all other NATO countries in all respects. .. wtf do you think Sweden has the Nobel comittié.

[@zhint9355]

Isn‘t CV90 a much newer platform. I would go for CV90 but things would get interesting when the US brings a new IFV to the market

[@JDkonsult]

Yes about 10 years

[@christopherchristianvanlan1809]

We can't disregard from the fact that the americans can produce massive numbers of Bradleys and they both overlap using different ammo

[@tntfreddan3138]

The CV90 has: more firepower, better mobility, better off-road capabiloty and better adaptability. It's smaller and designed for easier logistics, it's far newer and it can be ordered with a 120mm canon 😂

[@jaccovanderkleij5557]

how are these protected against small drone strike ?

[@JeeeeeZ289]

They aren’t

[@Hathur]

All the armor and active defense systems still won't stop a $500 drone. Russia has been making better and better jammers, but my cousin in Ukraine (drone operator) says "It just means I send more drones to the target, one eventually slips through the jamming"... at $500 to $800 per drone, the cost is literally nothing even if he loses 20 drones taking out 1 russian tank that costs millions of dollars and a month to build (vs the drone that my cousin builds himself, at least 6 per day). Even losing 20 drones to kill 1 tank is still cheaper than the cost of 1 NLAW anti tank missile, which is much shorter range than the drones.

[@prcan5740]

iron fist

[@pierrebengtsson5009]

Signs on top that says "dont fly drones in this area". Works great along sighns like"if you can read this you are gay". -Those keep drones away. =)

[@johns70]

1. Camouflage. Don’t be seen. 2. Cannon with AA capability (40mm programmable ammo) 3. Active defence systems 4. Armor ofc. Just bc you get hit doesn’t mean you get taken out. 5. Modularity equals easier maintenance and repair to fix and come back. At least the CV90 has this. The M2 is lacking in the cannon but also a bit in repairability.

[@MrArray1967]

CV 90. But what about the Marder?

[@andreww1225]

Bradley is being replaced

[@rickjames18]

Bradleys are old but proven in numerous wars especially Ukraine. Still the CV-90 is just as good. The only part I am not sure of is the armor package. Which has been shown to take more damage and keep trucking? IDK, maybe someone will figure it out or maybe it doesn't matter. Newer Bradleys are getting superior upgrades and the US Army is still replacing it.

[@johanmetreus1268]

Look for videos with the 21st brigade in Ukraine, as they were the ones equipped with the Swedish vehicles.

[@rip2025]

A thousand dollar drone makes these a dinosaur!!

[@UglukGPZ900]

Both seems equally loved by their crews in Ukraine. Both are lightyears ahead of the russian bmp's and bmd's. In the end though, 6000 beats 1300.

[@niklassoderberg3008]

Well a Bradley would have no f*cking chance against a cv90 in combat.

[@kristerolsson1795]

Cv 90

[@micaelekelund2509]

Cv 90. 35-37 ton

[@Pz.history]

My opinion are that the CV90 is a better IFV. Why? well its build on a much newer design then the Bradley. BTW the Bradley is high, like very high

[@BlackersMTV99]

of course the better one the CV90. Its superior.

[@LDB670]

Given that the Army has the Bradley replacement already picked out, and the cv90 is newer by a few decades....

[@Hanimichal]

How many russian tanks was destoyed by bradely?

[@matovicmmilan]

Zero that we know of.

[@Hanimichal]

@matovicmmilan so why it called tank hunter?

[@byzulescku]

It has TOW missiles

[@DoitsuRyoku]

There are no recorded instances of bradleys destroying tanks so far, we do have footage of two bradleys disabling a t90

[@NicklasJohansson-n8x]

​@@DoitsuRyokuthey did in desert storm

[@itccyyitccyy1783]

the cv90 that is given to ukraine is the same as is used in sweden and its 40mm not 35mm or 30mm

[@gabrielarcari4460]

CV90 more versatile..

[@rendmig3973]

What is most likely? 1. An american admitting a foreign weapons platform is superior. 2. Trump admitting it, if he makes a mistake.

[@douglassshephard3732]

The does cv90 and M2 Bradley Fighting vehicle both are tearing up Russian armor, not just their light tanks if it had road wheels on it, and is used to fight Ukraine, these two vehicles are eating them, up the Russian vehicles can't do anything with them, they're actually more helpful to the Ukraine than then a lot of tanks.

[@watz6962]

discussing future of IFV and not taking the PUMA or Lynx into the comparison ???

[@jurgen4466]

Neither of those are close to CV90

[@augustoliborio9458]

Bradley, CV90 didn’t have armor to defeated anti tank weapons, Bradley has it is explosive armor but has at least for RPG and similar AT weapons

[@lorenzogiuliani9144]

From TOMORROW next generation

[@bjorn2290]

200 Bradley sent and 50 CV 90

[@rexxorrwill8688]

Bradlys have the numbers, which might be the most important quality. but to be fair the number of Bradlys sent to Ukraine are probably to low, to be truly impactful...

[@sergeyartimasov7925]

Брэдли

[@GodsBattleAx]

the gay music loud af

[@AntonioMorales-wb8pz]

BAE😂😂😂

[@rahulrajput-fu2rx]

Both ifvs are now in Russian museum 😂.

[@hihosilvuh9438]

And those russian museums will soon be in a British museum hahahaha

[@robstewart1703]

What's funny? Think being a fascist pariah state is funny? Absolute roaster 👍🏼

[@willieeversole390]

So are all Russian Tanks and Jets 😂

[@Red-Revolution708]

@@hihosilvuh9438 I’m British but the British tanks have proven to be tat, we need to go back and do things differently, if you knew anything you about military weaponry then you’d know our armour is not good enough sorry to say, we seen what happened in Iraq and Russia have proved the western armour is simply not good enough.

[@Red-Revolution708]

@@willieeversole390Who is going forward and who is retreating ? Stop getting brainwashed and do your research our armour is simply not good enough. We need to spend more in technology and tank design.

[@zorantomic7331]

If cv 90 was Russian and Bradley American everyone we'll sey Bradley is 95% better from cv 90

[@Pz.history]

But thats bullshit :p BTW the BMP-3 is not bad eighter

[@robertlangley258]

Both of you need to go back to fourth grade English classes.

[@drazenborsi4283]

Bradley is battle proven..CV 90 is more recent design..

[@Asshat1337]

Dafuck? They are fighting with them in ukraine

[@richardstromberg6009]

The bradshit did Come out in 1989 and cv90 in 1993 😂😂😂, and in ukraine 2 cv90 has been destroyd and 47 Bradley have been destroyd

[@drazenborsi4283]

@@richardstromberg6009 That thet Ukranians do not know how to use them does not mean they are bad IFVs..in the hands of Americans and NATO troops result will be much different..just look to operation Desert Storm what Bradlys did to Irakis T72s..what makes you think that if it comes to that Nato fights Russia directly result would be different? Its quality of operator not equipment that makes a difference..amd not to mention that Russian BMPs are tin coffins.

[@MeNasty]

CV90 is battle proven for sure it's been all over the place lol and shown itself. Been in afghan and irak and plenty more places.

[@Tjalle]

​@@richardstromberg6009and how many Russian skit BMP 3 200 was the last number, and that's only BMP 3

[@mikkodoria4778]

CV90 is overrated and Bradley is on its way to retirement, but Cv90 will of course leads the future

[@Rickleveldepression]

Just because you like something more than another don't mean its better, has any European IFVs been able to crack a t90 like the Bradley has?

[@SkruffyTalez_TheWarzone]

The Brad never penetrated the armor of the T90 in Stepove. The CV90s 40mm autocannon was specifically chosen because it can penetrate the side armor of T72s

[@Rickleveldepression]

@SkruffyTalez_TheWarzone well yeah the Bradley was shooting the front of the t90 and it penetrated something because something exploded on the front of the tank and shot out like 15 ft. The t90 had no idea what to do and most likely busted the electronics because the turret started spinning in circles, and on top of that the t90 was already facing the Bradley so there wasn't really any excuses

[@SkruffyTalez_TheWarzone]

@@Rickleveldepression the Bradley hit the flank of the T90 with 30+ hits. The impressive flash was the tanks smoke launchers detonating due to the incoming fire. The spinning turret is a known design flaw and has happened multiple times in Ukraine. All 3 crew survived. A CV90 with the 40mm would have destroyed the T90 with 3-6 hits at that angle and distance. Facts and real life are important

[@Rickleveldepression]

@@SkruffyTalez_TheWarzone and the cv90 is only able to crack the side of a t72? The Bradley has been able to do that for like 20 years now ..

[@SkruffyTalez_TheWarzone]

@@Rickleveldepression Brads have defeated T55s with the 25mm chaingun in Iraq at close distance. The 40mm round is SIGNIFICANTLY larger than the 25mm. Google it, its fun. You will quickly realize that this is not a close contest

[@dioghaltasfoirneartach7258]

Bradley is the Most Dominating Fighting Vehicle in Ukraine 🇺🇦 The 90 is just a lot of hype...

[@jurgen4466]

Not true at all, there is several movies about CV90 from Ukraina soldiers and they are extremely satisfied with the CV90.

[@niklasekelof7319]

Yiu will not hear about or see any reports on the CV90's prowess in Ukraine, since the Swedish government has prohibited any propaganda using Swedish equipment.

[@dioghaltasfoirneartach7258]

@niklasekelof7319 Did the swedish government prohibit the ruź·ziaņ cannon-fodder in the meat-grinder in Ukraine 🇺🇦 from talking amongst themselves, about the 90...? 🙄

[@daginn896]

@@dioghaltasfoirneartach7258 What? The cv90 are highly praised by the Ukrainians.

[@niklasekelof7319]

@@dioghaltasfoirneartach7258 are they prohibiting russians from spreading their own propaganda? What kind of question is that even?

[@alphmar3778]

ah yes, comparing the bradley, a outdated vehicle, and the cv90, which is okay instead of vehicles like the kf41...

[@sida9439]

id say thats fair since they are the better ones being used in combat right now

[@maico3987]

CV-90 is easily destroyed in Ukraine war. M2 Bradley is stronger.

[@DoitsuRyoku]

atleast a dozen bradleys have been destroyed in the ukraine war, beyond repair even, while the two examples of cv90's that were hit were only disabled and the crew managed to abandon them (except a driver)

[@bonkbonk2670]

Where on earth did you get that false information from? If that would be true Im sure Ukriane knew about it and wouldnt had decided to buy 1000 new CV 90.

[@dsludge8217]

Yes, a whopping 2 CV-90s have been immobilised while only 47 Bradleys have been destroyed. 🤡

[@riorazzer1090]

Bradley base on flyght time

[@hippis563]

What the tho size , what they can do matters ffs !

[@Aurora_Angelique]

Russia war trophy

[@jimmiekarlsson4458]

Who cares? United States got a T-90 Russian tank LOL, we dont give a crap if the Russians are displaying western vechicles thats like 2-3 or even 4 models behind our curent ones.

[@drazenborsi4283]

Russian can opener..😂😂 we all seen what Bradly does to Ruskie tanks..😂😂😂

[@matovicmmilan]

​@@drazenborsi4283 Yes we did - absolutely nothing with that small 25mm autocannon of his 😂😂

[@drazenborsi4283]

@@matovicmmilan That 25 mm cannon has depleted uranium ammo..😂😂 in Desert storm it decimated and anihilated scores of iraqi T72s..more tanks were destroyed by Bradly than by Abrams..that Ukraine did not received depleted uranium ammo is a metter of politics..jet they mannaged to disable T90 with only fragmentation rounds..judging by Your name im guessing you are Serbian..you should know what depleted uranium is..😂😂😂

[@matovicmmilan]

@drazenborsi4283 Your American masters fail to provide a single video proof of their various "bragging-hunting stories" including the notorious one claiming that: "Bradleys destroyed more T-72s than the Abrams", but you owe them a lot so continue spreading their wild dreams 🤣 🤣 No matter what kind of a shell is used, the 25mm can't pierce more than 30-40mm of RHS while even the T-72M has the front turret & hull thickness equal to +400mm of RHS. The side is rated at around 80mm of RHS so that leaves the rear as the only vulnerable area.