M25 Deep Dive... (Beta, CFB vs M25 Assets, etc.)|Discussion

[@IceCubE4425]

You can tell they dont know football, All these "new" features are to do with the Skill players, but football is won 70% percent in the trenches as said by Ray Lewis. There was little talk in Blocking, O-line, D-line match-ups, A,B,C,D gap , and Interior line innovations.

[@freddygee3558]

2025 & we still don’t have defensive line stunts….Mind blowing honestly

[@NoMorePodDes]

Blocking isn’t sexy. The annual gameplay reveal is supposed to be the sexiest possible preview of the upcoming Madden. MOST football fans have no insight into the trenches and mayyybe can name the best or worst lineman on their favorite team. If I’m selling this game, there’s a 0% chance I’m leading with blocking innovations. But I mean they did have like 13 paragraphs about what they did for blocking this year in the blog, which was written by a former NFL Olineman.

[@randymcnaughton4318]

@@NoMorePodDesI agree but here’s the thing, blocking has been *one* of the BIGGEST complaints in the EA series. I shit you not I would be absolutely glued to this game if i had just one more cunthair of a second to throw the ball.

[@IceCubE4425]

​@@NoMorePodDes yeah but most games that are great have a game where the foundation is great, Fortnite , Red Dead, GTA V if we're talking about gameplay and gameplay loop. The trenches is that Foundation, if that's not great dare I say the game will always be below mediocre. I mean the game every snap starts with them fromt and centre. Don't matter what paragraphs they write, there's millions of paragraphs in other games like Overwatch 2 patches that flops hard in the gameplay sense.

[@IceCubE4425]

@@NoMorePodDes Madden 25 blocking is still trash, so much for that paragraph

[@mccarthymorival6280]

Who ever says madden is gonna be a reskin of CFB25 No it’s not. Madden was always gonna use the frostbite engine, they used the same engine for college football 25 the gameplay is just faster. The game play is always gonna be similar because of the engine

[@Remorsefullyhumble]

Whoever said differently are casuals I said this months ago .or they are fanboys trying to make ncaa seem like it’s completely rebuilt and unique 😂

[@Crashsui]

@@Remorsefullyhumbleright💀

[@basketballFanMD]

4:53 number 20 freezes and gives up a touchdown

[@ZacharyGriffin-x1w]

Why do we even care about this stuff? The game is going to be THE EXACT SAME as Madden 24. This new “ReVamped TacKling” bs is the same as field sense, it never works.

[@IllMatic97]

Gotta actually play the game, watching gameplay doesn't do anything

[@Lefty_FNaFYT]

​@@IllMatic97 shut it up

[@ZacharyGriffin-x1w]

@@IllMatic97 man shut ur dumbass up you think it will be any different??

[@Royal10123]

​@@IllMatic97lol when something has been happening 10 to 15 years straight you don't have to play it lol

[@StateoftheFranchiseGaming]

​@@IllMatic97there's enough content just in YT alone that a lot can be deciphered from just watching gameplay

[@ZacharyGriffin-x1w]

Also college football 25 sucks. It fucking sucks. The gameplay is bullshit. Why does everyone act like it’s so great?

[@JDivine911]

It's the fun element of it. And I'll admit, I can see it being there. But with all of the issues that lie in the game, it's hard to be in a competitive space because you're either gonna get screwed or be the one getting blessed.

[@ZacharyGriffin-x1w]

@@JDivine911 exactly. That’s why I hate it. You get fucked on defense no matter what. That’s why I blitz every play because I know I’ll get fucked over regardless.

[@JDivine911]

@@ZacharyGriffin-x1w Defense is indeed AWFUL. Can't argue with you on that one frfr. 💯

[@ZacharyGriffin-x1w]

@@JDivine911 yeah. I wouldn’t be bitching about it if it were Madden because we’re all used to this bullshit. But a game they had years to develop and hyped us up for months?

[@basketballFanMD]

@@ZacharyGriffin-x1w pushed it back a whole year because they were still figuring out those NIL deals. all they cared about was having all the teams and players in the game. otherwise, it wouldn't feel so rushed and put out in this state

[@paul-pq4xp]

Its just more visual cues. These things are already in the game

[@workbirdygaming]

So I playtested cfb25 in may and I was like wow this was pretty good then I played the madden beta and I was like wait a minute that was the same gameplay as cfb25 and I been telling people the same thing

[@Crashsui]

It has similarities but On CFB it’s heavily animation dependent M25 is more physics dependent for the most part , which is a good thing.

[@Bassiumm]

I compared Madden 2005 and NCAA Football 2005 and concur with your points on asset sharing and gameplay. NCAA Football tends to have an arcade-like play style, and there are notable differences between the two games. For instance, NCAA introduced the matchup stick, a feature later adopted by newer Madden games. While Madden introduced the hit stick, NCAA Football had its unique take on it. I may do a video comparsion on them.

[@keithturner6924]

NCAA Is a game when you get off work kick off your shoes and just have fun Madden 25 will be you better buckle up.

[@ryanhamrick8426]

M25 looks better already with the signature runs, candeces, boom tech, stumble recovery, pre snap defensive/offense movement, all that looks nice. New presentation plus new commentary package will be fresh as well. I didn't get C25, looks generic with m25 assets like you said. M25 got the juice for them assets.

[@taym510Oak]

Facts way better I’m mad I bought this dumb ass college game 11 years and they cant program a dam game right 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@Remorsefullyhumble]

@@taym510Oakit’s crazy but cfb25 is worse from the defensive side

[@Angrychef-jx8bp]

Literally reselling you the same points from the past Maddens. Boom tech will be bullshit because they still don’t have gang tackles right. They took stumble recovery out just to put it back in now. All that presnap motion but defenders stand still in zone coverage. Come on folks wake up lol

[@Crashsui]

You sir are correct , CFB is a base model of madden NOT IMPROVED ON. Heavily Animation dependent , No new gear such as arm sleeves and cleats , Very wonky abilities, Poor AI awareness On m25 is defined on the running and smoother , the game would be the most consistent it’s ever been but it would have issues , Trust me tho from a gameplay standpoint it’s better than CFB cause CFB doesn’t have the “new” physics system

[@taym510Oak]

@@Remorsefullyhumble yes it is

[@joshuaevans1279]

Madden 25 is a CFB 25 reskin. Not the other way around.

[@JDivine911]

Keep telling yourself that.

[@kevinwaters5189]

Exactly lmao they’re not fooling anyone

[@justin_is_buckets]

🤣🤣🤣

[@_ducjk]

it looks worse

[@Remorsefullyhumble]

That’s cope lmao we been knew both games would be built off the same engine .always been like that .maybe you a kid

[@TheC0-ckmeister]

Defence on College football 25 is poor BUT Madden have only added this new ball carrier gimmick as its McCafrey on the covet...I can guarantee Madden 25 will still be a poor game

[@richardoquinn5922]

I play ncaa 06 and madden 06 youre right about. Players coming into madden from ncaa their ratings ate lower u di have a few who shine in ncaa then go shine in madden bir mostly overall the players from ncaa hhave to basically start over in madden and work their way up. Also ncaa is not like nfl so i like that the old ganes stsyed true to that..

[@ImGilbertTF]

Yep im definitely imma do that project 😁

[@basketballFanMD]

what happens when their own line runs into the ball carrier? do they have the awareness to bounce and maneuver around them?

[@Crashsui]

The movement is smooth n more defined , not clunky like m24 but smoother n rewarding if you hit the right cuts, you simply just have to play , it’ll be the most consistent madden ever but it’ll have its issues but its definitely better than CFB if you want consistency

[@basketballFanMD]

I wish they'd get rid of that stupid celebration overlay like CFB did, such an eye sore

[@MikeJones-fz2mt]

Madden 25 is , cfb 25 rescanned 😂

[@Remorsefullyhumble]

Wrong it’s the opposite,but it don’t really matter .atlesst madden has defense

[@DmitriWilder]

Oh wow obviously its going to be similar games, its both games are made by the same dev team that was split up into two different departments

[@Tactical_Nuke0]

Nice😔

[@boogiefrmda4]

Other than blocking college football is a great game and other than not being able to create like you want to , madden game speed HAS to be the same it might be a half decent game to the point I will buy you on release with the way tackling is looking

[@drakesmith4857]

If they try in the slightest it could play decent more physics based gameplay like cfb but not as fast a bit more grounded.... but ea are worse then isis so I'm not getting my hopes up

[@drakesmith4857]

Some of these clips are pretty rough

[@nyfinestgully]

naaa we need to study and break down the manipulation of easports🤣🗑 as long as easports stick to this frostbite engine there will never be real physics easports stop lying. the ignite engine from the older good day maddens are way better then this current engine. reskin to a reskin to a reskin and still make billions of dollars from the entire community is diabolical🤣 I can't wait until thier monopoly license is over so a real triple a studio can make us real football games with real physics lol. easports aint it🤣 take some of the billions of dollars you guys make from people and create a real physics based engine for football. all the games that run on this engine have the same legacy issues/glitches but they don't care because they know the same people will buy every year😩😩

[@Crashsui]

Cool rant but the new physics system they added on m25 is consistent you’ll enjoy it , CFB doesn’t have it so you haven’t experienced it yet

[@2KCustomerService]

Your audio could be a little higher

[@JDivine911]

@@2KCustomerService Nah.

[@taym510Oak]

I’m good on ncaa and if madden is programmed anything like this trash ass college game I’m not buying it 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@trenitty81]

Yeah they got me, I will not be pre-ordering anything from EA ever again! College Football 25 is average at best!

[@2KCustomerService]

10:10 huh? PAUSE

[@_ducjk]

madden team is all casuals

[@LonghornsLegend]

Madden is dead nobody cares about these hyped up features. I tried to give 24 a chance on sale and the draft class every year is featured with 6-7 faces to cover every position and prospect. Next year the same faces are the best players. Your whole team ends up made up of 4-5 guys. Stuff like that let's me know it's a dev team that doesn't care about the game so why should we

[@taym510Oak]

I wish madden released last weak instead of waging my time and money and effort in this weak ass bad programming scripted ass cfb25 I never played a game so broken and rigged it’s not fun at all I’m good and I bought this game on release waste of time I never seen a game and your playing on varsity are all American and you kno the outcome of every game you play and you can’t stop the cup from scoring in the 2nd half of a game even if your a top 25 team in the nation playing against an unranked team it’s trash madden better