M855 Green Tip Vs Body Armor - Predator Armor

[@janiebarber7884]

"Aim for the face." - Peter North

[@predatorarmor]

"What if they shot you in the face?" - Lloyd Christmas

[@dannyduke4807]

That made me spit out my drink 😂

[@cjune35]

LIBERAL.....

[@Hugh_Jasdik]

@@predatorarmor “that was a risk we were willing to take.”

[@strengthculture4030]

Look at the spalling that flew into the wood though. I don’t want that in my throat.

[@3nealweber3]

They make these with plates with a Kevlar spall protection 👍🏼

[@crosspointholsters1636]

@@3nealweber3 id rather have ceramic plates than hope a steel plate is gonna protect me

[@timrobinson6573]

and the moron wasn't even wearing eye protection

[@italianrelic]

Use ceramic plates

[@stevenm6065]

@@crosspointholsters1636 without a coating even ceramic is going to spall and throw crap everywhere the coatings are what stop that from happening along with the carrier

[@alecedwards2331]

Ah, so m855 won't penetrate steel plates, but it will shred the carotid arteries when the round spalls

[@bigmikestan]

You order them with kevlar covering

[@bobertsmaug5583]

@@bigmikestan yeah but some people are unaware of that Yk

[@internetboogeyman2744]

@@bigmikestan or wrap them in duct tape 😂

[@aurelius5534]

​@bigmikestan where can you find that? I've only seen them talk about "anti-spalling" material but it's never Kevlar. I would love to buy something like that though😊

[@landmine940]

It will probably go through the soft armor

[@driedjello]

Shooting metal at short range with no eye protection? You're a madman! Steel tipped ammo no less!!!

[@Roboticdoughbull3k]

Steel core... Not tipped

[@Blueknight1960]

Don't be a puss.

[@Gushing69Granny]

@@Roboticdoughbull3kyou’re that guy

[@cancermonkey7334]

Hard to say for sure, but I didn’t see any hearing protection either. I thought YT had rules. It’s ok though, senate hopeful in Missouri ‘24 (Kunce), a former marine, had shrapnel or ricocheted metal hit a reporter in the arm. All kinds of “experts” doing unsafe stuff.

[@alvinbraxtonjr2105]

Will it stop a green tip out of a 20inch barrel

[@alphasheepdog9683]

If you’re running a 20 inch and not shooting 69 or 77 grain.. wasting time. M193 from a 20 will do far more penetrating than an m855

[@jeffreyyoung4104]

Let me repeat someone else's comment, try the green tip out of a 20 inch barrel. That is what it was designed for, and the loss of velocity with the 16 inch barrel is enough to prevent it from working.

[@johnburrows1179]

Correct. Was never meant for a short barrel

[@bradleybishop7406]

Yup. My X95 18” barrel will penetrate AR500 target steel plates using PMC XTAC 62gr “green tip”.

[@salmaya9274]

Need a 1:8 twist or 1:7 twist for these rounds! 16inch barrel. Preferably the Winchester m855 not PMC.

[@kylespirk306]

20in with 1:10 is the best setup for M855 to my knowledge. You agree?

[@tripleffarms2872]

My cmmg wasp is 16" and 1:9 and it's got a hell of a penetration for a 16"

[@souvikdey3929]

It's a great thing to show the iner construction of a bullet before shooting it. It clears' a lot of confusion. Really appreciates that. Thank you 😇😇😇🙏🙏🙏

[@eduardorivera9101]

Try same rounds with a 24"barrel

[@johnr.9094]

Armor? No no, your legs are mine. Then your head.

[@eliti4806]

Will you test black tip also?

[@Protocol_17]

The steel core in M855 was originally designed to add weight in the nose of the projectile and not as a LAP round. This allowed the designers to maintain specified overall length. The unintended effect of the steel core has it’s benefits though.

[@markm6015]

Wrong it was designed during the cold war to defeat Russian body armor

[@nathanielyoung648]

Then they would have just used lead for weight, as lead is heavier than steel. The ss109 penetrator as it is called, was designed to defeat body armor back in the day.

[@Dobie_ByTor]

You mean REDUCE weight in the nose. Also, enables longer OAL projectiles for better stability in flight and still “tumble” terminally in soft targets.

[@crownroyal2248]

The sad part is 30 people gave that comment a thumbs up. 🤷 🤦

[@WesternOutdoor]

I ordered some of your plates a few months ago with the Kevlar coating based on other videos I watched. Seems like good stuff. I did a presentation on M855 against a soft target at 500 yds. Next will be one with some ballistic gel. You guys are out of Delta right? I originally hail from Beaver Ut.

[@kevinobrien1933]

That range is dangerous with all them rocks

[@jasonshink6589]

Were you born gay or did it develop over time?

[@tokyo6186]

@@jasonshink6589 he was definitely born gay

[@frank6842]

Fellas is it gay to not die while doing a hobby? ​@@tokyo6186

[@Actias1974]

Children.

[@travislupum]

Try it with a 35gr 223 round and a 20-24inch barrel

[@philipdennis-rh7uj]

Great vid...just plain simple information with no ego.

[@gogogo1064]

We need a ladder test of calibers until penetration is reached. And some .277 fury action.

[@reddituser420]

Imagine being the guy standing next to the person wearing this lol

[@calebsone1630]

Can you test m193 out of a 20in barrel?

[@davidtennien39]

Yea thats the question, the M193 always seems to give plates an issue over M855.

[@calebsone1630]

@@davidtennien39 I use ceramic plates but the reason I would never use a steel is because the most common version of the 223 round punches right through them in every test I've seen. It's kind of a concern I wouldn't use them unless they figured out a way to stop them which I'm sure it's possible with a backer of some kind I think it would be nice to have a reusable plate if they existed

[@predatorarmor]

The Level III plate will not stop m193 out of a 20in barrel. The velocity on the round is too high. Our Level III+ plates will stop the m193 out of a 20in barrel. It is specifically designed to stop higher velocity rounds. We did a test video on that already. Go check it out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3vKaYmlnJxsj9U

[@calebsone1630]

@@predatorarmor I'll check it out

[@clarehodgekins3570]

@@predatorarmor Is that just cause velocity? From what I've seen, it's the 3300fps that gives level 3 steel an issue. The 62grs, I've never seen them chronoed that high on youtube. --- I've pulled GTs out of m855 and reloaded them spicy over TAC to get 3317-3382. Of course it isn't a "safe pressure load" -- but no pressure signs show on nickel brass. (I'd not use this for anything but an "armored emergency" of course... but I've never seen it done.)

[@commonsensemakessense8134]

I would have at least had safety glasses on

[@clarehodgekins3570]

especially with no spall coating....

[@titan_o7]

No eye or earpro while shooting a steel plate at close range? Cmon man, that's just plain idiocy

[@niallstorm]

My throat hurts boss and my ribs I can’t breathe

[@99cobra2881]

Steel plates are targets not body armor With the availability of low cost of lvl IV ceramic plates why anyone would wear steel is beyond me Hope your able to deal with spall wounds to you neck chin and arms

[@99cobra2881]

@Puddles Do yourself a favor and search “spall off steel” here on YT if you think its gonna be “a few fragments.” I hope you have foreceps and celox rapid in your ifak. Educate yourself instead of hurling half_ssed insults.

[@marknorwood7521]

???😒most of the ceramic plates "I've" seen are about Double the price of steel. Some of us have quite limited income.

[@99cobra2881]

@@marknorwood7521 RMA armament part# 1155 level IV nij certified in stock and ready ship for $144.99 each. Thats easy to budget for over steel plates.

[@samjones9600]

Problem with ceramic plates is durability, they break within 1-2 shots and when you drop them. In addition the plates only last a couple years as well. Of course spalling sucks, but most plates have anti spall coating. Therefore, for preppers, a steel plate would be much more effective.

[@99cobra2881]

@@samjones9600 Go watch some of buffman ranges videos most ceramic plates take a serious beating before they allow a pass through Not sure why people get so hung up on the multi hit scenario if you get a zipper from a m16 youre gonna die anyways Plates gonna catch two or three but the rest of you is gonna be swiss cheese Armor is there but better to plan on not getting shot vs pretending a 10x12 plate grants multi hit invincibility Wear that steel all you want, the ceramic plates today are worth the cheap price Buy both to have best to have spares anyways

[@johnnyvee2560]

Try the winchester version

[@TacticalOwtlaw]

I'm a happy buyer! Good stuff, guys.

[@eriksoneliyumjao4818]

Can u please sugest the website.

[@jonah8133]

Lol are you shooting an AR without Ear pro?

[@predatorarmor]

Forgot the ear protection. Didn't realize until everything was set up and didn't want to go back to get some. Sacrifices made for our audience.

[@jonah8133]

@@predatorarmor Lol, well said, props to you for trucking through it like a boss. I hope your ear drums are okay.

[@luckygreenforest508]

The spalling will kill you thought. Look at the wood frame closely when bullet impacts. It damaged the wood pretty bad 😆

[@bigmikestan]

You're supposed to get the kevlar covering

[@kvan9971]

Yet they don't have a video up of them shooting this plate with kevlar covering. Makes people skeptical that it would be enough to catch the spalling..@@bigmikestan

[@colbywood7667]

Ceramic spawl as well and you get the coating

[@cc-vg4ed]

Can you do m193 vs your III and III+?

[@21exodus]

theres no point bro

[@cc-vg4ed]

@@21exodus I know. Just wanted to see if they'd respond, which they are upholding their reputation and not responding.

[@predatorarmor]

We have a video testing the m193 out of a 20" barrel on our III+. Depending on the the barrel length of your gun the m193 will penetrate the Level III armor. It reaches a high enough velocity that it will penetrate. Our Level III+ plate is designed to stop the higher velocity rounds. Check it out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3vKaYmlnJxsj9U

[@jeremyreinhold3620]

I generally rock an m193 norma 55gr at 3200+ out of an 18" x95 for home defense. Will take out everything but level 4 armor. And if level 4 is coming thru my door Im probably already evacated or fighing on the front line.

[@clarehodgekins3570]

You got and vid evidence? I'm loading Hornady 55gr very hot. No pressure signs, but chronos at: min: 3373 max 3423. No pressure signs on the nickel coated brass.... but pressures exceed sammi for the 223 Wylde 18" BA barrel -- by a few thousand from the calculators I plug it into. Other than sighting in / getting a dope card on it -- I save the barrel life for SHTF armored zombie pigs (Don't know when the hot loads will kill it.)

[@mitchbrown3753]

Spalling will get ya tho

[@TheJBerg]

that's what the spall coating is for. yes, the coating does effectively capture the spall.

[@crosspointholsters1636]

@@TheJBerg bed liner doesnt do anything

[@TheJBerg]

@@crosspointholsters1636 it passes the balloon test... Put balloons around the plate, shoot it with and without the coating: without will pop balloons, with won't at all.

[@crosspointholsters1636]

@@TheJBerg thats not even accurate at all. steel plates are heavy, reverb all that energy into your body. spalling hits you in the face. ceramic is better

[@MRX-rr5xf]

I’m sure most people were talking about soft armor

[@jeremiah7855]

M193 would go right tru it with 20inch barrel like the original m4a1...but the spall with steel plates is the killer/worry even spall coating aka line x doesn't do much just makes you think it does

[@colbywood7667]

Coating duh, ceramic plates spawl ass well

[@jeremiah7855]

@colbywood7667 yeah those coatings don't do much DUH!!!

[@americanpatriot3344]

I came across a lot of these for sale at my local gun store one day yrs ago. I went to the range, happened to have alot with me on accident since I save em and they told me I'm not allowed to use that specific 5.56. ROLMAO LOL 😂.

[@Vanfools]

Everyone thinks green tip means goes through everything when really it just goes further after hitting something

[@900stx7]

It was designed to penetrate Soviet metal helmets.

[@johnglock-it4kn]

that wasnt a green tip bullet

[@nate9133]

you shouldve used a 24 inch barrel if you really wanted to prove your armor

[@seanwalden4014]

Try a 20 inch barrel!!

[@thatoneguy454c]

Do it with M193 out of a 20 inch barrel

[@Chase7711]

Green tips will penetrat certain types of ceramic plates

[@tripleffarms2872]

Ive seen it go through cheap lvl 3 that plate yall got is pretty damn good try that with a 20" and a 1:10

[@mtnbound2764]

nice demonstration. now that i think about it 3/8 ar500 will stop m855 so this isnt that crazy. nice explanation of how it not only meets but exceeds lvlIII

[@xvonfrankenstein]

That's why there's M855A1.

[@MichaelJones-ms8sx]

Holy spalling Batman. Hell no, hell no, hell no... Buy ceramics.

[@cecilnewman666]

M955 is armor piercing, M855 is not. Best way to defeat steel with 5.56 is to use a lighter projectile and push it to over mach 3.

[@NastyN8thegreat2]

If it exceeds the standards then it would be nj4 not nj3 soo I'm a little skeptical lmfao😂

[@CptZiltoid]

With all that spalling, you wish you were dead. 😂

[@its.Andy1]

You do know they have a kevlar spall and fragmentation containment layer right as an option right?

[@Mike_Y.]

Can you hook a brother up?

[@BLASToffVidio]

No ear or eye pro, come on dude! I like my plates though, good vid.

[@abdul-basiyribnmarcus8640]

M855 penetrates soft level 3 not steel

[@clarehodgekins3570]

Have any vids of which soft lvl3 beats m855s? velocity matters? -- (I agree with what you said, looking for oneoffs.)

[@abdul-basiyribnmarcus8640]

@@clarehodgekins3570 yeah Buffman has one using low velocity rounds

[@BuffRANGE]

This is literally the first youtube video where someone (well besides me) correctly identifies the internal construction of M855.. :D

[@DirtyJoe1400]

Yeah better find ceramic plates if you don’t want that shrapnel in ya neck.

[@DanDawgAZ]

You need green tips if you are running an inferior platform (16" Carbine with 9:1 or 8:1 twist). Straight up FMJ's out of my 20", 12:1 twist M16 will out perform green tips out of a carbine all day long.

[@yf222000]

The spattering alone will kills the wearer.

[@abdulmohammed7702]

SAFETY GLASSES

[@varietasVeritas]

Green tips were designed to penetrate Russian titanium armor.

[@eriksoneliyumjao4818]

Where can i buy this & is it deliver in India?

[@JoeSmith-zi2br]

Aim below the plate......

[@pckanellopoulos]

Try it with M955

[@clarehodgekins3570]

Where would you even get a good supply from?

[@BuffRANGE]

But will it stop the #kingofarmordestruction :D

[@eddiearchuleta615]

M855 gets stopped by all level 3 steel plates but not poly ethylene plates. Try this with m193 16-20 inch barrel lol or better yet will it stop m855a1

[@BuffRANGE]

Likely their III+ will stop M855A1.

[@eddiearchuleta615]

I smell a challenge!!!!

[@predatorarmor]

Our Level III+ will stop M855A1. We have a video of it on our social media. Link: instagram.com/p/CPZY4Ten12J/?igshid=NmZiMzY2Mjc=

[@pilotmiami1]

Bravo.thenks

[@anglingaquatics4107]

Must be a steel plate with all that spawling

[@BigDaddy-jo8ig]

XM193 will put you a hole in that plate

[@predatorarmor]

That depends on the length of the barrel and distance. Velocity is the factor at play here. The Level III plate will stop M193 from a 16" barrel and the Level III+ will stop it from a 20" barrel, at 15 yards. Depending on distance the Level III will stop it as well.

[@marcush4741]

M855 beats level 3 from a 20 INCH barrel. There are multiple youtube videos showing that level 3 stops m855 from a 16, but not a 20. Show your tests from a 20 inch, or youre not proving anything. We already know that 99% of steel plate level 3 stops m855 from a 16 inch barrel. All I learned here is to not put my life in your armors hands. Bc you put it up against a test you KNEW everybody on the market passes, then said "that means we're better".

[@OzzieBenzC300]

Great plate for the weight but need spalling protection. I have a ar500 3+ plate and weights 13:pounds. So this one it’s lighter but if no spalling coating no one it’s gonna buy it. NO ONE!!

[@basshunter8206]

Maybe you need to back up a liitle so the bullet can get some speed up before hitting that. I'm sure if it is used for the soldiers that they would be getting shot at more than a few yards, that was pistol range.

[@ellobo1326]

Learn ballistics/physics before commenting. At 30 feet from the muzzle, a bullet is already slowing down. They do all of their “getting up to speed” INSIDE the barrel.

[@turdferguson2863]

20" gang

[@evankloepper]

Idk understand the big deal about ppl upset about steel plates and spall, like if someone is legit going to buy this for the 1 in a million chance the sh*t hits the fan. Or it sits in your closet for 25 years, I’d rather have fragments in my cheeks neck ect than a gaping a** hole in my chest. Idk my 2 cents to the hole spall deal

[@tomboysupremacist]

because you can get ceramic for very affordable prices nowadays and spall will absolutely kill you

[@evankloepper]

@@tomboysupremacist my point was that you also would die with a chest impact with nothing there at all, just saying better than nothing and if someone can’t afford something get what you can

[@tomboysupremacist]

@@evankloepper a set of level IV hesco 4401s is like $230. there really is no better value all things considered

[@eman7892]

Won't stop m8551a..

[@bigtrev761]

🇦🇺😎👍Nice🏁

[@thedot3814]

You need a 20 inch barrel.

[@red9man2130]

The m855 otherwise the ss109 was originally designed to defeat a Soviet Helmet at distance. Try plates with a round say like 6.5 Grendel or God forbid a .30/06 black tip. Yeah it might not penetrate but it is going to ring Your bell.

[@TTP719]

One in the off switch.