how did he get mac to coach of all people? do they know each other? feels pretty insane to have one of the best EU coaches to help you when you starting
@FishboyAbzu8 ай бұрын
Mac watches grubby cause of wc3, hes a fan.
@broke_en_halo8 ай бұрын
look at em haters bro they mad mad wth. Never expected grubbies new chat to be so boosted 😂
@TheOzumat8 ай бұрын
yeah it was Mac who approached Grubby
@zibane62468 ай бұрын
Grubby was a known and popular RTS player before League of Legends even existed. It isn't surprising that he has fans today who are well-respected and accomplished players.
@garagavia8 ай бұрын
Love this ❤ Amazing to see you keep learning and exploring Bard, he is such a cute and chill person, a nice friend and a worthy ally. Stay strong chief!
@fluffyncute0638 ай бұрын
Like watching this series because it gives me insight of how the top levels of this game think.
@DaxRaider8 ай бұрын
i am just not sure if that top level knowledge helps gruppy as alot is counter productive from what u wanna do at the start
@strike18458 ай бұрын
@@DaxRaider well it might not help him a lot now because he's not quite able to execute everything correctly and often his teammates will not be ready for plays, but creating good habits early while learning the game is much easier and more helpful longterm than just playing the game, automatically creating bad habits and then later trying to get rid of them.
@bigsmoke45928 ай бұрын
@@DaxRaider i mean grubby already has a very high level understanding of mobas. so knowing what leagues macro meta is, is quite useful. he mainly just needs to learn all the champs and items
@broke_en_halo8 ай бұрын
love it
@s0ltinsert7828 ай бұрын
this was a nice coaching session. I can't relate to other comments, they sound mad to me. It's good that Mac taught you actual macro concepts instead of obsessing over details in the micro like how to get in one more auto attack. And then they say with a straight face that you should go let Baus teach you how to run it down your lane instead ICANT
@sinner54528 ай бұрын
League players trying not to be toxic [Challenge level: impossible] Altho i agree that some obvious micro tips would not hurt, but micro is not that complicated, Grubby will learn it for himself in no time. And thats part of the fun to learn how your chmap works by yourself.
@Himekocchi8 ай бұрын
I don't understand what people's problems are towards Mac. Pretty sure the ones whining like a broken record "solo q and pro play are different" are hardstuck irons, bronzes or silvers who will most probably get outplayed hard (read clapped) by Grubby already, and needless to say doesn't have a millionth of an idea about league that Mac does.
@MaxedEntropy8 ай бұрын
While the large amount of information on trade windows and positioning is helpfull, i do slightly agree with chat that he'd learn more about regular play, and what he can expect in his own games, from people who don't just look at pro play
@naknampucha52368 ай бұрын
Nahh man,.there's a big difference between pro play and solo Q,. Mac is trying to instill Grubby some useful tips that aren't even remotely useful on low elo. Plus, he's still unranked,. he's gonna get clapped on Gold and Silver games.
@TheMatthew92018 ай бұрын
Why do you immediately respond by insulting the other side? All you have is ad hominem and speculation, like wtf
@qsxmirage72748 ай бұрын
@naknampucha5236 you can climb far into the ladder way past silver/gold with just repetition and mechanical practice stuff you can't really teach someone. Grubby will pick all that up once he's played a hundred games he's still very new the stuff Mac covered is stuff that took me years to pick up on. Far more important
@Himekocchi8 ай бұрын
@@qsxmirage7274 You just took the words out of my mouth.
@Amaling8 ай бұрын
Going to throw my hat in the ring and recommend Coach Cupcake. He’s an Aussie former pro support and these days he does soloq support coaching. If he wants to join your stream/vids for exposure and such, would STRONGLY recommend it
@Sylgerr8 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this coop ❤ Mac did a pretty good job as I see many improvements in 3 games about placing and tempo.
@TobiasJohansenMusic8 ай бұрын
Yoy seem to have good chemistry and it shows in the videos. It's so enjoyable to watch two humans understand each other's humor.
@jessechartier69678 ай бұрын
Hey Grubby, enjoying the videos you been posting. A tip for your shield support item is that it gives you and your teammate minions worth of gold, so you wanna prioritize Cannon>Melee minion>ranged minion to optimize the most gold income.
@saxonknight08 ай бұрын
I watched this session live but dropping a comment to say it was great fun to watch! Hope there’s more of this content coming!
@kgk47828 ай бұрын
I think the main thing for Grubby to learn is map awareness - the rest is just amazing already anyways Through map awareness he would get more info to make his play choices
@monotechnic8 ай бұрын
Agreed
@ArcTV.8 ай бұрын
He's already said before in comments and on live is that the reason he is intentionally not having any map awareness is that he is concentrating on his champs kit and the enemy champs kit and everything else in-between while learning the game because he is extremely new to the game and is playing a champ for the very first time, or in this case the first few times.
@AllUpOns8 ай бұрын
@@ArcTV. Yeah, Grubby has done this enough times to know how learning a new game works. Good map awareness is only possible once controlling your character is second nature.
@diverges148 ай бұрын
Love these coaching videos!
@franciscom.bodinho22198 ай бұрын
It's crazy we can have this premium content for free 🤯🤯🤯
@TheKajtkeTV8 ай бұрын
8:01 That actually happened, at least partly, in the Group Stages of EUM Spring this year in the match between Anonymo and UOL Sexy Edition, when Neramin DCed and Anonymo was forced to play 4 v 5 in the late game.
@RooDemartini8 ай бұрын
loving the series! learning a lot too!
@DEMONHAWK28 ай бұрын
hope to see more league from u buddy ^^ always wanted to :D theres still LOTS of champions to try out! hopefully ull have atleast 10 champs maybe more haha that u really like to play once u get more game knowledge!
@Intelligenkeit8 ай бұрын
its so weird how he moves his camera like that, did he bind 4 more keybinds just to move his camera?
@garagavia8 ай бұрын
Coaching + Grubby = ❤❤❤
@loganspratt93198 ай бұрын
Tomato bomb? Blast plant? Tantrum tomato!!!
@Dumbo98 ай бұрын
Cant wait for the Grubby ranked arc
@YnnaMuutaSellaista8 ай бұрын
yO tHiS gUy DiD nOt EvEn SwEeP wHiLe CoAcHeD wHaT a BaD pLaYeR Thanks for the league content Grubby! Wc3 and League, my top2 most played games of all time, love it.
@dylanhess26728 ай бұрын
Lathyrus when
@ivanjelenic56278 ай бұрын
Coach Lathyrus pog
@antonioj.rodriguez66978 ай бұрын
I would recommend you to play Singed, idk if Dota has a similar hero
@TheJerbol8 ай бұрын
League used to have DC's all the time at live events, they've vastly improved the client's stability and LAN infrastructure
@hotaru82288 ай бұрын
"bug for sure" xdd
@Dreeedd8 ай бұрын
Why does Grubby have a different client?
@shmootube50008 ай бұрын
someone hire this coach a maid because he never does any sweeping.
@broke_en_halo8 ай бұрын
Grubby is tbh so good, but since he is new the questions are so goofy or awkward 😂
@sammyblaze42348 ай бұрын
i watched a lot of Neace coaching videos before watching any other coach, then i started watching others and realised Neace is the worst coach in the whole scene, but it's funny to imagine how he would've coached Grubby 😂
@nilsfatman4908 ай бұрын
You stopped Annie from doing Annie things. :D
@dragocrafterr82868 ай бұрын
hope you get a session in with Broken By Concept, they're a great SoloQ focused podcast made up of 2 super highelo coaches
@integraldx79588 ай бұрын
Dude, this guy doesn't even know about sweeping, he didn't tell him to sweep 1 time it was so painful !!! If this guy's a League of Legends coach i feel sorry for his team !!! 😘
@Alyest8 ай бұрын
rofl
@diverges148 ай бұрын
Probably by design, when teaching you don't want to overwhelm a student with unnecessary details. In this video it was clear Mac was intent on teaching Grubby how to time and target his roams.
@PPo28 ай бұрын
@@diverges14 The comment was a reference to something they said and not actually critical, just so you know :P
@integraldx79588 ай бұрын
@@PPo2 ty for clarification i let people cook, laughing at them for commenting without even watching the whole vid xdd
@SETHthegodofchaos8 ай бұрын
why so low? :D 23:44
@JacobTheSunPreacher8 ай бұрын
Hey Grubby. If you're ever getting another coach someday, i highly reccomend Coach SeeEl. That guy is super fun and easy to understand. He makes content for Brazil, but can't speak portuguese, so his videos are in English.
@Wolfboy6078 ай бұрын
He's getting AloisNL to cover top lane specifics on the 28th, I think we'll have the videos trickle in on the following day or two.
@aaronperez95188 ай бұрын
How long before Grubby goes pro in League? I give him 10 months
@YorkiePP8 ай бұрын
Teams outsource their slow-style thinking to Mac who tries to drill it into players so everything feels instinctual in game. That said, as many have said, it may be better to use a "role coach" to improve. Then again, it's interesting to hear what pro teams would do :)
@ELYESSS8 ай бұрын
you want neace style coaching instead? push wave, don't die, kill them, hit nexus. That will be 300$.
@YorkiePP8 ай бұрын
@@ELYESSS no but that's not the only other option
@FishboyAbzu8 ай бұрын
@@ELYESSS Who brought him up besides you?
@acvgaming56018 ай бұрын
What kind of moronic reply is that lol@@ELYESSS
@nartdarym42378 ай бұрын
9:04 anie
@AmitabhaAsukin8 ай бұрын
So good at Bard, like you was born to play him
@ivanjelenic56278 ай бұрын
Great video! Maybe chat can convince Lathyrus (EU rank 1 challenger bard streamer) to coach Grubby.
@nicesickmusic8 ай бұрын
this is big
@zeta56278 ай бұрын
How is he moving his camera like that?
@Buhlaine8 ай бұрын
Looks like he's Middle Mouse dragging?
@gilgagimmickkingofheroes64168 ай бұрын
@@BuhlaineYup, a classic RTS gamer behavior. Never occured to me it could be amazing if done right
@lysalanalorwyn21528 ай бұрын
I thought he is using some specialized gaming keypad with thumb cursors on like Razer Tartarus
@reynergavrila2508 ай бұрын
if youre serious about learning bard i recommend you to learn from lathyrus, you can even ask him to coach you.
@dakotacx8 ай бұрын
I think it would be really good for Mac to focus on map awareness and champion awareness. Grubby often isn’t looking at his character and just runs into someone without noticing. For example during the mid play Briar literally walked into lane right behind him.
@TheMesoria8 ай бұрын
Hopefully Mac is just playing nice, but 15:00 was not a bug. Ranged champions execute at 30% until the second tier item...
@ivanjelenic56278 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure he was joking
@thetruedefinitionofsavage22258 ай бұрын
My brother I do not think that he could have laid the sarcasm on even harder. That was a joke yes.
@mishok128 ай бұрын
1647 xdd
@haliltemizkan81848 ай бұрын
You still haven't reached lvl 30 after like 2 months, bruh come on.
@dustyacer8 ай бұрын
funny how mac things we'll make fun of him about sweepers. Bro thats not even the top 10 things to complain about. the coaching has grown a bit on me but many things i just dont think is very good for low to even mid elo. like the scanning when inside your own jngl is good, but he doenst mention when he should do it. Many times enemies can even get there, and scanning in river before a gank, or when invading is more important. even in mid elos people will ward their own jngls or at least the entrance to them. Also thing i hated most is that grubby never presses tab and mac never makes him press it. I can kinda get why he wouldnt as the players he coaches does it so much and he doesnt play so he doenst press it but still going a whole game constantly without ever pressing tab is like... During my first 5games of league i pressed tab more times than grubby has ever done. The thing i do like, is he does give some high level coaching, that even as a mid lvl player im reviewing/learning things too. The basics probably arent that important to grubby since he probably knows them already but just needs to apply it to lol, but it still does feel like we are skipping a few steps. cant wait to see alois coach.
@notEAdemize998 ай бұрын
Man it really sucks to say this but this guy was not a good coach at all! He was mostly vibing and laughing. During the pre game session he barely knew the answers to most of the questions Grubby had, and outright didn't know any specifics, like how much a tower plating is worth in different lanes. How does a professional coach not know that? I swear streamers like baus and Alois know so much more than this guy about basic concepts. He seems to care a lot more about drafting, which is perfectly ok for his job, but is not the knowledge that a new player needs.
@BrovarSpirytus8 ай бұрын
Realistically why would a highest level e-sport team coach need this knowledge? Players he works with all know these things extremly well.
@DoctorStrange018 ай бұрын
@@BrovarSpirytus pretty much this. He doesn't need to know those basics as his players all know the details. I see a different problem here. It's the fact that his teaching is not really beneficial for such a newbie like Grubby. He is on a whole different level of coaching than a solo queue coaches/players. Alois and Pobelter will teach him way more i think.
@obba408 ай бұрын
Why does he need to know that? How does that change anything?
@naknampucha52368 ай бұрын
@@BrovarSpirytus Bro Grubby still unranked yet.. He's playing support,. the weakest role on low elo and he's already being feed by Master tier content or pro play content which is kinda useless given Grubby doesn't even applicable yet to his current elo.
@notEAdemize998 ай бұрын
@@BrovarSpirytusI know, that's why I said "which is perfectly ok for his job" - his knowledge fits his work needs but it is not something fit for Grubby. But honestly I'd also expect a good coach to adapt their style to what the student needs. Or just to not propose a partnership since that's not something he knew how to do. And to reiterate the main point: "which is perfectly ok for his job, but is not the knowledge that a new player needs." This just feels like the ultimate version of chat telling Grubby to learn high level mechanics while he is reading a champ description for the first time.
@McMacsi8 ай бұрын
To be honest, You would get more experience by watching some streamer playing game, to see what decisiosn he makes and why. For example Zwag or Jankos Or just Watch Midbeast who overwatches games and explains players decisions.
@Gottagoslower8 ай бұрын
I think he's too invested into dota 2 rn to give league a fair chance that's my problem this series ie like you said not giving league enough attention by watching VODs but I guess it's still to early to judge as he just started to play the game. But on stream he doesn't play league for 3 days then forgets most of the stuff he learned 3 days ago. Just hope that loop doesn't keep happening.
@tudornaconecinii36098 ай бұрын
@@Gottagoslower That's what I noticed as well, that he's not progressing much from day to day. Like, he's definitely above average relative to how recently he started playing, but his growth is *super* slow and it shows.
@JealotGaming8 ай бұрын
Zwag XDD
@user-bp5mg4ki4b8 ай бұрын
No way you recommended zwag lol…
@McMacsi8 ай бұрын
@@user-bp5mg4ki4b @JealotGaming what's wrong about zwag for a newb player? He smurfs silvers and explains how to beat them lol
@Spooky_Spookerson8 ай бұрын
Taking advice from proplay into solo queue is like taking nascar drivers advice on how to drive on the street. In practice a lot of these are going to be completely useless. Especially when the Nascar driver doesn't even know what one of the cars (Briar) does. Bard is not a good champ to learn the game, chat is right about that.
@hamzasami83628 ай бұрын
Not necessarily. He's teaching him a lot of macro and efficiency, and not focussing on how to kill the enemy, here's your auto reset, engage now cuz his ability on cooldown, etc. To be honest, grubby already knows how to drive in your example as he's very used to the other Moba's, and much transfers.
@qsxmirage72748 ай бұрын
For the dense viewers, Mac taught grubby stuff he won't learn from just playing. Grubby will learn champ kits, mechanical tricks, and stuff just from playing a lot. The stuff Mac mentions are things that he likely wouldn't come to on his own .
@ArcTV.8 ай бұрын
I would actually goes as far to say bard is actually an unhealthy way to learn the game through and might develop bad habits in the future.
@griefer18518 ай бұрын
Mac is just like a typical lol player at this point. He's not a coach or fit to be, ngl. He lacks basic info and game knowledge.
@horizon58738 ай бұрын
ref
@blaze73868 ай бұрын
forget this game it's not worth trading your sanity
@calronkeltaran4938 ай бұрын
cait is not played mid... but doesn't he know, that cait can solo mid with no teleport...?
@davidtoowavy16488 ай бұрын
Interesting how he doesnt know anything but he knows everything at the same time .
@MrCaranlor8 ай бұрын
Literally unwatchable because no sweeper
@greenin55378 ай бұрын
dude that coach doesn't even know about sweeping, he sucks lmao
@jestebrejeste8 ай бұрын
How does this coach not mention once that you should auto first before firing your Q with Bard? It's like he is hanging out with you instead of coaching
@oilslicknl8 ай бұрын
Thats because he is on some level. Its still live twitch content after all not 100% serious coaching.
@Zorayah8 ай бұрын
he's a head coach and hasn't personally played for years, he was helping with macro concepts and recognising good and bad game states and what fights to take, he's not a micro coach, he would maybe 'know' you're supposed to do that but it's not what he was looking for and so didn't pick up on it to inform Grubby about it.
@s0ltinsert7828 ай бұрын
what he explained instead was 10x more valuable information
@Element_Doom8 ай бұрын
I think that information already came up somewhere, chat might have told him when he tested the champ for the first time, but he forgot, keep in mind that was multiple days apart from him playing bard again
@eugeneel18 ай бұрын
worst coach ever. At least remind him to buy pink ward when back, or use ignite in fight
@ProCookin8 ай бұрын
good stuff grubby tyvm! (coach sucks balls though unfortunately)
@Xirtamification8 ай бұрын
worst Bard coaching ive seen in a while, please if you want to learn to play the game, don't start with Bard, if you really want to play him, i recomend Lathyrus, best coach, and a Bard OTP