Mac84: The TRUTH about the iMac G3 DV - Debunking ShortCircuit's Video

[@Riccardo_Mori]

Regarding performance: I had an iMac G3/350 (the entry level of the slot-loading family) from 1999 until 2002. When I started using Mac OS X, I expanded the original 64MB of RAM to 256MB, and for a long time I used Mac OS X 10.1.5 on it. The iMac was stable and never really felt sluggish. The problem with most young KZbinrs 'revisiting' vintage hardware is that they often perform superficial research and, more importantly, lack perspective and experience to really contextualise what they're talking about.

[@jryankennedy12]

Seeing Linus kick the iMac off the table hurt my heart

[@BAgodmode]

Hard same. These computers have a special place in my heart, wish I had one now. It was the first computer I used to access the internet. The first computers I touched were old 80’s apple hardware held over into the 90’s, and then of course the performas and then these lovely damn machines.

[@retrochristmas7329]

Linus is a douche bag who abuseses his employees. The sad thing was they owned that mac since New so it was his ORIGINAL Mac from when he was young. Then he throws it off a table.

[@hlecaros]

Linus is a jerk.

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

same and it hurt my head too

[@jakolama]

Linus is acting like genius but he is dumb jerk

[@TheHouseOfMoth]

Awesome vid! Shows that misinformation can be corrected respectfully

[@Scioneer]

Even though these have that "big scary crt" in them, they are fairly well compartmentalized inside. You generally won't be working near the crt if you are , for example, replacing the hard drive.

[@Mac84]

Yep! The logic board on these models are completely separated form the CRT, making it easy to service them without worrying about even discharging it. I’m really not certain why Alex took the rear housing off above the CRT and the mentioned the shock risk, unless he was just trying to tear down the entire thing.

[@Cobalt985]

Totally true. I have serviced the mobo in my iMac G3 and was very happy with how I didn't even have to get near the CRT to be able to replace the HDD or PRAM battery.

[@Gizmo88]

Don't forget about the 700Mhz Slot loader that only came in Snow or Graphite was only produced for 6 months

[@caseymcclanahan4575]

This brought old knowledge I haven’t used in a very long time. Then the quick shot of Unreal Tournament and Sims, took me straight back to my teen years on my DV SE.

[@BranchusCreations]

Steve, your knowledge of this subject is staggering and inspirational!

[@MagnumForce51]

Yeah these iMacs wasn't even the last CRT based all in one Macs to use PowerPC. That medal goes to the eMac. That was the final all in one machine to use a PowerPC. That used a G4 and the final models had a G4 clocked at 1.42Ghz! I happen to have one. Has 10.4.11 on it and runs pretty well. :D

[@Mac84]

Yep! And boy were those suckers heavy! I have a handful of them, beautiful screen on those!

[@j.m.7580]

Great shoutout to the eMac - proud eMac owner here!

[@stephanemignot100]

I write that comment in way too many video but my gaming rig is an eMac 1,25ghz. Way too many good games to play if you add Amiga, Dos, Arcade emulation etc...

[@MichealMaloney]

The Alex drinking game. Scull a shot for every mistake he makes about the iMac G3, you will be under the table before his video ends.

[@alexmyersguitar]

I'm gonna have to buy more booze! (I'm not THAT Alex :p)

[@benh.635]

The comments section is bad in its own way >.>

[@CommodoreFan64]

He does this kind of BS in a lot of the videos he host, makes me just want to slap him, and just tell Linus to have him stick to shop projects.

[@frankthespank]

I made a post in that video addressing his errors. I use to work at Apple in AppleCare (I then moved to other areas like production failure engineer) during this era.

[@cvkealey]

The main problem with the switch to slot loading optical drives was that it coincided with a fast food chain distributing mini-sized Pokemon disks. I provided tech support for a library at the time and cannot tell you how much time I spent disassembling those machines just to extract mini CDs from them.

[@macnavi]

I had the same experience professionally. The later models actually could take the mini CD’s. Many did not know this. Can’t remember from which model though.

[@mikec4178]

The video cameras also thought going do mini DVD for recording was ingenious. It wasn’t. I had so many customers that wanted to load that footage in and edit like they used to do on their digital video camera cameras with the mini DV tapes. But sadly, there wasn’t really any software available. You couldn’t even edit in like Final Cut Pro just the format wasn’t ready to be edited

[@DanielMonteiroNit]

11:25 I own an Air 2017 and a PowerMac G4 (which is not exactly the same, but comparable, I would say). When I power the G4, the room *SHAKES*. The Air, in comparison, sounds so tiny that I usually couple it with a small JBL Bluetooth speaker, for some extra punch.

[@eMorphized]

That's not a "bong", it's a "BWWWWWWWWW"

[@mojave5661]

I own a 2015 13" Air, an M2 Air, a PowerMac G3 b&w and a Sawtooth G4. and the machine with the worst speaker(s) of any of these is the G4. that really is a tin can. surprisingly, the G3 tower is much more decent, but it doesn't beat any of my MacBook Airs (it does sound better than my Retina MBP somehow)

[@GarthBeagle]

I appreciate all the corrections and additional information in this video, but I'm left feeling concerned as I don't see a Strawberry iMac behind the speaker, only the other 4 colours 🤷‍♂

[@Mac84]

In an effort to send you a photo Steve threw out his back trying to dig out a Strawberry iMac. Instead of flowers, please send printers.

[@Daveyk021]

I understand the earlier G3's have a lot of flyback failures. Do the later one's (slot models) have less of a flyback issue?

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

I guess idk I only have a iBook G3 “Snow” (500MHZ) and a iBook G4 1.2 GHZ

[@Natures_Intentions]

Okay i am now drooling over those g3 clamshell laptops on the background!!! Awesome content as always.

[@penangtv6108]

Just came from that Alex video and it was soo painful! There were soo few usb devices pre ipod and the first gen ipod used firewire. Your comment on the speakers was spot on too as JBL Harman was using a similar speak config in for their ipod iPhone docks such as the OnStage 200id. Thanks for healing the pain😊!

[@redleader6442]

One quick correction (if no one else has done so yet): That base 400 MHz model not only had half the vram, but also a lower end video chip. Rage Pro vs Rage 128 Ultra.

[@runforit4203]

Was the iMac G3 still available in educational markets until 2003?

[@steftrando]

12:20 the Rev B iMac had a Rage Pro graphics chipset, not Rage 128. You’re thinking the Fall 1999 iMacs which came with the Rage 128

[@Mac84]

Yep, this was unscripted so I goofed there. The point I was trying to make was that the ATI Rage series of chipsets was supported in the classic Mac OS for a while, so the drivers were indeed good.

[@BovineThreat]

Thanks for the info! I knew it wasn't SCSI, but I didn't know it wasn't just plain IDE either. The other video was... painful.

[@kit7une_]

iMac G3’s didn’t stop production in January 2002, as I have one manufactured a few months later. They stopped being sold in early 2003.

[@Mac84]

Thanks for the correction! I was going off of what I had read on Everymac.com, which states January 2002. However, looking deeper into this, that discontinued date is only for the 700MHz model. Apple did still sell the 500 and 600MHz models until March 2003. (I guess they didn't want to eat into the sales of the iMac and eMac). This confirms what I remembered, seeing iMac G4s, eMacs, and iMac G3s side-by-side at my local Apple retail store in the early 2000s. The Internet Archive's Wayback machine has a final (recorded) entry for the iMac G3 hardware page on February 2003. It seems only the 600MHz Snow model was being offered at that time. What a fantastic lifespan for this revolutionary product. :)

[@HybridBoiChannel]

FireWire also enabled you to be able to mount another FireWire computer as a file slave to transfer files

[@Mac84]

Yes, Target Disk Mode.

[@BCProgramming]

One thing I've learned to do is skip any Linus-related video that has to do with old tech, since they have a tendency to talk out their ass even more than usual, due to poor research, really bad ability to actually contextualize what they are looking at, and the fact that- honestly most of their staff think Optical drives are archaic and old, and that contempt tends to leak into any videos about vintage tech.

[@aleksandrbmelnikov]

MacModders were putting CD burners in their G3s, so floppies were dead anyway. People were just so tired of 1.44мб magnetic disks.

[@Nymunariya]

The whole time I just kept wishing he would’ve done *some* research. (Edit: Alex, Mac84 knows his stuff)

[@TheLordOfNothing]

Nymunariya Steve or Alex?

[@Nymunariya]

@@TheLordOfNothing ShortCircuit. It's like a PC fanboy who has never wanted anything to do with macs just a presentation on them, with all the misinformation he received over the years. Not bothering to fact check anything or even double check anything.

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

@@Nymunariya It's the same with anything that's pre 2010s, they don't research anything and it's annoying to see misinformation given to an audience as big as theirs.

[@Umtree]

I’m about to buy a 600MHz iMac G3. I am good with HTML and hoping to design a VERY Basic webpage specifically for iMac G3’s to visit. (Using my iMac G3 to design it). What programs can I use? Any tips to get this to work? ……. Can it work? Thank you

[@PuntoHowto]

Macromedia Dreamweaver 3 would be my recommendation, maybe even worth getting Firworks with it as they went together really well

[@KennethPlaysOfficial]

I know people are gonna hate on me for this, but for simple web pages a basic text editor can go a long way.

[@JD3Gamer]

Regarding the speakers, I bet they had ones that were rotting out or otherwise degrading. I have a blue Dalmatian iMac G3 that has speakers in very poor condition. My grape Rev D iMac's speakers are still in great condition tho. I guess it's in how they're stored and treated with time.

[@benh.635]

I watched that video in preparation for this video and oh my... There were so many errors.

[@jammi__]

Yes the other video was just too unbearable to watch, so I quit at about a minute or two into it.

[@benh.635]

jammi I’m personally with Steve. I enjoyed seeing him have fun, but it hurt me to see so many factual inaccuracies

[@xc68000]

What is the actual difference between the DV imacs and regular imacs of the same generation other than the DVD combo drive? Looking at the motherboards they look utterly identical.

[@Mac84]

Only slight processor and graphics configuration changes.

[@xc68000]

@@Mac84 what differences? I can find no documentation from Apple or anywhere else that there is any.

[@keithwhisman]

I remember in the groups we were complaining about the need for floppy drives to die already around the turn of the century till they stopped showing up on prebuilt machines around 2005 or so.

[@mikec4178]

People were still coming in for floppy drives after 2010. I couldn’t understand it.

[@tombarber8929]

take that Alex!

[@DanielDybing]

I have an older tray-loader, Rev D, that has a few issues. 1. Cannot install the original OS (8.6) using original restore media, I only get a gray screen. 2. Cannot sleep in OS 9 or OS X - get an error saying I am missing system software in order to sleep (just did a clean install and upgraded to 9.2.2). 3. The monitor settings says it is a "VGA Display", and the resolution is always locked at 1024x768@60Hz with 256 colours, from the display turns on, with no other options available. Any idea what this could be? The iMac already has the latest firmware, and I've tried resetting NVRAM/PRAM, changing the battery and reseating VRAM stick.

[@Mac84]

My guess would have been firmware, but you mention it's already updated. I would guess that maybe the original install media has something that the generic 9 does not have. Which is a long shot, but plausible. Does the original media read OK on another machine? I'd check out the Low End Mac Facebook group, maybe someone there has had the same issue before and can help. :-)

[@Ben-qb8wj]

Great video Steve! Love the background. It would be awesome if you got a flower power and do a stream with it

[@sergiocecilio5938]

i've seen that video too and noticed all those inaccuracies. I have since it came out a DV indigo 450mhz, and love it. I want to restore it and use it with software from the time. your video explaining all these real facts is a much needed one, because many young adults don't know the magic and innovation that came in macs in these years, all the things that now we take for granted were introduced in those times. I love the G3 and G4 macs! the G5 era and beyond became more streamlined and less interesting, until the release of the new m1 imac! at least for me!

[@kevinmiles5770]

thank you for this video, and I know its 3 years old but I am only coming across it on KZbin now. Thank you for helping set the record straight, I don't know how many times I had to talk till I was blue in the face about incorrect information someone was plugging along. The sad thing is once misinformation is repeated it becomes a false truth. One example is with people calling the computer a hard drive. Not realizing that when someone said their Hard drive isn't working you are then trying to diagnose the problem and discovered it was actually more than the drive itself. While the computer box itself was often referred to the CPU - we all know the CPU is actually one of the chips inside the computer.

[@sloopymalibu]

I saw no Quadra 840av's, very disappointed...

[@Mac84]

They were all sleeping!

[@nonnnth]

Did you say Apple has a long history with [I/O port] adapter? I don't know why people freaks out when Apple removes ports

[@mikec4178]

They typically remove ports when there is no longer a benefit to those ports. Of course there’s a lot of people who would love that old technology to be around forever because they can’t move on.

[@MacintoshLibrarian]

Eggcellent response video! Also, I love your iMac collection!

[@claudioguendelman]

Hi iam Claudio From Chile i got 3 of those Imac i Change the Harddrive to SSD and Speakers. I want to know is posible to navigate on internet without problems i try camino and many pages dont work. And ather thing wic Xos i can use now i got it on the X 10.4 can run it a mos later os ?. Thanks and great job.

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

You'll be able to do minimal internet browsing as it's very slow to access on a G3 iMac, use 68knews or frogfind if you want to read news or browse sites in basic text mode.

[@claudioguendelman]

@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 Fimally i instal Ubuntu on It and is back to Life. I do a lots of work but now works awesome...

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

@@claudioguendelman That's great to hear! I use Lubuntu on my PowerMac G4, works great for transferring files between MacOS and Windows.

[@trinaconrad4583]

What a great video. I learned quite a bit about the iMacs from that time that I had no idea about. Keep up the great work.

[@pentiummmx2294]

the tray loader g3's cd drive cable kind of looked like a 2.5 IDE cable

[@onigvd77]

hey Steve I have just come across this video, I'm so glad you set Alex straight, there's nothing worse than someone saying the wrong stuff about apple's computers, especially when its so easy to look up and get the correct information.

[@GutBombTech]

my eye Mac is a bit zappy can you please recap for me thanks.

[@Mac84]

After you lick the anode cap clean it should clean right up!

[@jimseibyl5140]

Great breakdown. I actually worked for Apple as a genius back then and I can certainly confirm ALL you points! 😜

[@_vh]

i recently got my first imac g3 (one of the later 600mhz models in lovely blue) and i can tell u, outside of doing somewhat intensive tasks like photoshop 7.0 or burning cds, it runs nicely enough on its previous owners hard drive and install of os x 10.3, and mine has far less ram than the one at shortcircuit (192mb, altho i would like to upgrade it at some point).

[@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs]

Great Video Steve Glad You Set The Record Straight

[@95Comics]

This was a great video. It would be awesome if you did a series debunking other content creators incorrect videos.! Your channel is my new favorite!

[@mingohagen]

Very well put together video Steve, nice job!

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

I don't even care about Mac products because I've never needed them. However, I enjoyed this video and your insight regarding Apple hardware. *SUBSCRIBED!*

[@slob5041]

I had one and it was slow! Miss the ui a lot

[@corgibuttz2550]

Fun video! I'm not a mac guy, I grew up w/ PCs, but my friend's family was allllll in on Mac. I got to experience the wonderful OS environment over at his house, and enjoy some of the macs unique games like Marathon, and other bungie classics. I just picked up an old iMac, I guess it's one of the really old models because it still has the CD drive the pops out. I think it should be fine for the software I want to run on it. Not into the big 3D games of the era that were also on PC like Unreal Tournament. These old mac games are expensive on the used market! I found a .iso of a bundle CD that came w/ a bunch of old bungie games. I'm thinking I might actually try to hook up the iMac online and see if I can download it haha. This is going to be a fun adventure. Messing around w/ old computers is the best hobby. :)

[@yeeweichai]

So happy to see this video :) you were being too kind to Shortcircuit and LTT. Their obnoxious and condescending attitude really is off putting.

[@xiardark]

like the facts! was about to go correcting on the "fastest" 600Mhz model as I have a 700Mhz model, but saw that in the description notes. Now if someone had somewhere to buy those bands for the CD/DVD drives as mine is kinda perma-shaped into an oval.

[@jeffriepatio2563]

Hi hello how are you?Can someone help me update my imac g3 im from philippines and i dont have cd to re format my old i mac g3.. i really want to save it to use as a dvd player but i dont have any cd driver or program because its really old here.. can someone help me and send me cds to save my imac g3 pls thank you so much

[@Mac84]

It would be more cost effective (and a better solution) for you to purchase a USB CD-RW or DVD-RW drive. This will allow you to write many discs for any computers. There are plenty of disc images for the old Macs on MacintoshGarden.org - Best of luck!

[@themacintoshbuyer4240]

Yeah I watched it and kinda cringed.

[@TheLordOfNothing]

TheMacintoshBuyer yeah, I read you’re comment and kinda hated it.

[@themacintoshbuyer4240]

The Lord Of Nothing cool story

[@yannickdocq9781]

need to know more about those imacg3. :) rebuilding them as i just got my 7th one this week and came in perfectly fine. ram door was a little damaged, but it is a easy fix. but looking more into the taking apart and diagnostics of it, like CRT replacement, flaky Flyback replacement and all. ;)

[@BAgodmode]

“Floppy discs were still pretty popular in 1999.” Kinda maybe? I only ever bought 1 pack of ten floppy disks in my entire life, and used maybe 3 of them. Hell, I don’t even touch physical media anymore for anything.

[@startrekmike]

Floppy discs were still quite popular in 99. You may not have personally bought many or dealt with them all that much but CD-R's were not at a point where they were super cheap and pretty much every system still had a floppy drive. Likewise. A lot of folks in both educational and business environments still relied on floppy discs simply because they were cheap and relatively reliable.

[@MichaelAStanhope]

Thanks for clearing that up and making the record straight. Preach brother! :) Someone has to tell these kids how it is.

[@JorgeRuizGonzalez]

Great video. What happened to Alex is that he made a video without really knowing what he was talking about, ... something quite common, by the way. Alex is clearly not a Mac expert, and he didn't do his research well before making the video, and he spoke without knowing...

[@helfire23]

I watched the entire video and there was no Image Writer content. Seems off brand. Do better!

[@Mac84]

Thank you for your concern, a pallet of non-functional ImageWriters is en route to your location as a gift.

[@jammi__]

So, some 2001 models didn't have a VGA port, but all trayloaders had the normal D15 Mac RGB port that could output VGA up to 1600x1200, maybe even more. The DV models couldn't do anything but the internal resolutions. The AMP connector looks slightly like a Molex connector of the era, but the origin of the Molex misconception is from some doofus circa 1998-ish claiming ACHSUALLY it's a Molex, when it was referred to more correctly as "HDD Power Connector" or such until then (in contrast to 3.5" floppy power connector). Molex however did make the ATX motherboard power connectors, but not the PCIe video card power connectors that look similar. The former are called Molex Mini-Fit Jr and the latter are just some PCIe proprietary video connector things. Apple did use standard Molex Micro-Fit Jr connectors on the motherboards of Mac Pro models. The Micro-Fit Jr are the successor of Mini-Fit Jr. They have unique keying per connector count and carry as much current as the larger Mini-Fit connectors do.

[@Mac84]

Thanks for the comment! Yes, but as we chatted about in the live chat, the DB15 video port on the first revisions of the iMac G3 was not an approved method of video out by Apple. And let's be honest, it's not a user friendly solution for non tech-savvy users. Correct, the Late 1999 and Summer 2000 models didn't have VGA ports on the low end models. But I believe the Early 2001 models all had VGA ports. Some companies, including Apple, still sold older models during this time. So yes, it was possible to buy an iMac without a VGA port during this time, but it wasn't really part of the new Early 2001 model lineup. It was just old stock. The whole point in my video was to reply to Alex's claims that "nobody used" the VGA port on the iMac DV. I was pointing out it was a requested feature and was very useful. The iMac DV models which included VGA ports also came with two plastic covers in the accessories box, one with a VGA port cut out, and one without. So even on those models you could swap out the plastic cover if you decided you did, or didn't want the port shown. I agree though, it's not easy to swap it out! Yes, the iMac DV could only mirror video out. And yes, I goofed on calling the hard drive power cable a "molex" connector.

[@aegonthedragon7303]

That video port you mentioned actually played a bigger role in the Rev A/B’s mezzanine slot. A company made a Voodoo 2 card for the slot that you routed the internal video cable into, and then another cable back to the CRT.

[@Mac84]

@@aegonthedragon7303 Yes, I have one of those Voodoo 2 cards and it will be something I focus a future video on. It's interesting tech!

[@steftrando]

Mac84 I humbly request that you expedite that video. There isn’t a single video of that card on KZbin.

[@steftrando]

Mac84 when you make the Voodoo 2 iMac video could you also run before/after on games like Unreal comparing the Voodoo 2 to the built in Rage IIc or Rage Pro?

[@RealSeanSmart]

Great Video Man

[@bobfromsoireegames4309]

Hear hear, good work my man. Thou shalt not speak poorly about the iMac G3!

[@WelcometoVideoCity]

Another exceptional vid man.

[@Konic_and_Snuckles]

I usually enjoy LMG content, but after seeing how much they dropped the ball, I went out of my way to thumbs down Alex's video. Thanks for doing a better job _for free_ than the one he was actually paid to do.

[@danbaker9241]

awesome video glad someone corrected all that Info lol

[@kenbmiller]

I loved my iMac G3 DV SE 600... such a fun, cool computer. I was heartbroken when it was destroyed by a flood in my basement.

[@mindluge]

i remember when i worked for apple and they were shipping ibooks with 32MB!!! of ram

[@orestes1984]

The irony is that the original iMac had a modified PCI slot in the original iMac is lost on people.

[@aytviewer2421]

Great video. I always wanted one of these back in the day...

[@motionsick]

Zip drives were already out. Nobody was using floppy anyways.

[@NetzDotCom]

Here’s some mistake that you made: 1:49 - You say iMac G3 went up to 600 MHz but there was a last revision of iMac G3 (Summer 2001) that have a CPU that runs at 700 MHz (but that configuration was discontinued in January 2002). 10:03 & 10:18 - You say that iMac G3 (as the whole product line) was discontinued in January 2002 but they actually was discontinued it a bit later than you expected, in March 2003 (when eMac (an CRT iMac G4) was starting to sale not just for educational market, but for the general market as well). I could correct myself if you meant about that maxed out 700 MHz iMac G3 (that I already mentioned in this comment) I don’t know. 12:26 - ATI Rage 128, at the rev. B model? Original iMac G3 (a rev. A one) used a ATI Rage 2c with 2MB of VRAM with expansion slot for VRAM, rev. B upgraded to ATI Rage Pro with 6MB (2 base + 4 expanded) of VRAM, rev C. (the “5 colors” one) “upgraded” with ATI Rage Pro Turbo with (same) 6MB of VRAM (like the previous revision), the “Slot Loading” revision models upgraded with ATI Rage 128 VR with 8MB of VRAM and (finally) “Summer 2000” and onward models upgraded with ATI Rage 128 Pro with (same) 8MB (and in later revisions 16MB) of VRAM.

[@Mac84]

1) I’m referring specifically to the “Early 2001” line of iMacs, thus the graphics on the screen at 1:42. In that line up the fastest machine was a 600 MHz model. Only the later “Summer 2001” line up had a 700 MHz option. 2) The January 2002 is listed on EveryMac and MacTracker for this series. However, yes, two slower models were discontinued later in March 2003. They axed the 700MHz one in January and kept the slower 500 MHz and 600 MHz models around until March. This made the eMac and iMac G4 look far more attractive. The point is Alex was incorrect when he said Apple’s Intel CPU switch occurred “right after” the iMac G3. And his machine wasn't "the fastest". 3) I meant “Rage” graphics for the original iMac model. When I said “Rage 128” I misspoke.

[@floodmaster]

I agree with everything except the speakers, the speakers in the new macs are really insane, and I think at this point every single iMac's speakers has rotted out. I know mine certainly has.

[@Ralph-yn3gr]

I have the 450mhz Summer 2000 G3 and it's pretty awesome. Runs Deus Ex pretty well and OS X 10.3 perfoms just fine. It may not be a gaming PC, but it's definitely a PC that plays games and is quite good for late 90s and even a few early 2000s games.

[@TheLordOfNothing]

My 2000 iMac Ruby DV+ runs Mac OS 9.0, but has Mac OS X iMovie on it.

[@aleksandrbmelnikov]

Squashed point there. It's never was a support problem. ATI Rage was out for PCs, and it sucked there too. ATI was always buggy, and their bloated Catalyst software slowed down any system, Mac or PC.

[@tanithis]

I face palmed so hard during his video and was hoping that he was just joking around. It was well documented that Jobs hated the cd tray and that felt like one of the only things Alex got right. Thank you for this correction video. I was just about to start a channel just to put one up.

[@TheTechnicalWizard]

Just wanna let you know that the iMac G3 wasn't discontinued entirely in 2002. The 700 SE model was killed off in January 2002, the 500 and 600 models were killed off in March 2003. :)

[@Mac84]

Yes, I’ll be covering this more in my upcoming video about the iMac DV/Slot-Loading series. Apple stopped selling the faster 700MHz model so the new iMac G4 looked like the better buy.

[@shauncarson8732]

great video i have all the macs behind you !!

[@ARTNARCH]

WELL DONE ! YOU ARE A SMART GENTLE-MAN

[@andrester88]

At first, I was just expecting some condescending video, but quite the opposite, in fact. It didn't really bother me as much that he got a lot of things wrong because the nature of the channel. If that was featured on the main channel, i can understand more on the backlash.

[@BENDER_TECH]

Oh, I hadn't come across these videos before, but it's not surprising to me that Linus Media Group often produces content riddled with inaccuracies.

[@sbrazenor2]

Many of the people at LMG have no idea what they're doing. The channel isn't about accuracy or integrity anymore. It seems to be feeding a narrative that older is bad and newer is better. When you take into account period use cases and software, the iMac was pretty good. If you look at the current M1 iMac in retrospect in 20 years, it's going to seem like a pile of hot garbage compared to whatever is out in 20 years. That's just how the march of technology works.

[@georgesenda1952]

I must differ with you on the slot loading G3’s. Like Apple’s later DVD drives they were horrible. They frequently stopped ejecting and once they failed, if you could not find a replacement drive or an external cd drive, you were screwed. Replacement drives for all the G3’s are really hard to find now. The same goes for DVD drives for 2008-2010 IMacs as well. Bezels could be fixed or you could get a replacement. I had 3 G 3’s and an IMac DV & had to recycle all of them because of the drive issue. I intend to get a G3 and a G4 again this year so I can play my beloved older Mac games. And I still use 3 of my 6 Apple ][s as well. Apple 2 still forever !🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎

[@megatronskneecap]

The "iO is lacking" thing annoys me especially from their video. I mean... The G3 was meant to be a style icon and it was! Wrapping a load of ports around the sides and whatever would of made it look ugly and comparible to the horrible beige PC's from the time.

[@KennethPlaysOfficial]

He is not the brightest bulb, huh?

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

And yes always be careful with CRTs

[@bramvandenbroeck5060]

My iMac G3 DV optical drive works just fine! It ejects dvd's with no help! So i am very lucky i guess :p

[@aleksandrbmelnikov]

Hot Garbage? It's like saying XP was trash. Maybe by today, but not back then. It was light and clean for an OS, and people loved getting out of 9.x~whatever. I remember when MS-DOS 6.22 was the 💩-to-get. If someone can't write a better OS, then they have no place bashing what's out there.

[@brnrds]

Legend.

[@oldkaboom7745]

I've always found Alex to be extremely critical of anything that isn't on the cutting edge of popularity for a college student and lazy in his research and presentation.

[@KevinMillard68]

awesome video

[@FurryRaverSparky]

Short Circuit is a hacked together half assed show anyways.

[@mikec4178]

1000%. I couldn’t even watch 2 to 3 minutes of their video on the Mac studio. All that guy does is complain about every single thing. He tries to do these Apple videos, but he’s just anti-Apple trying to appease his windows viewers

[@rado9292]

Mine is the 600mhz

[@Aaronage1]

An LMG channel posted a bunch of misinformation about Macs? I’m shocked! 🤣😊

[@vdeblois1352]

I had the best model..DV SE.. Still have it actually! hahaha.. Its has a dvd-cd (read, burn/write).. Vocal assistant (that i could name as i fancied (for some time i lovingly called her "hey bitch".. hahaha.. It was great for music recording, video and photo editing.. Even had an app to create artificial 3d worlds.. just to name a few.. you can't judge it unless you actually used one (and i did for years) .. it was actually a lot more customizable than most of the computers ive had or worked with since.. of course the tech has evolved.. but yeah they were great machines.. oh!..airport too!.. screen mirroring.. they were all in one.. basically a 36pound portable computer lol.. yes they were something else.. nothing compared.

[@dricci]

Do you remember the name of that 3d world app?

[@stephanemignot100]

Anthony does the same with retro-gaming, they don't know what they're talking about, they're just lazy.

[@kingston908]

Man I hate to be rude but he was completely clueless. Jeez.

[@segaboy9894]

I agree with everything in this video except for the idea that Mac OS X runs well on a G3. It just doesn't. I have memories of running Panther on a G3 back in '03 '04... I was a patient person then.

[@Mac84]

Tiger ran pretty well on my iMac G3 450MHz back in the day. Granted, it wasn't the best machine, but with 768MB of memory it was pretty solid and fine for web browsing, email, and some games. Of course this was back when Tiger was new, so the internet's heavy use of flashy CSS and HTML 5 stuff didn't exist yet. Mac OS X runs great on G4 systems, but if needed you can get by on a G3, but you need tons of memory.

[@dark147891]

Love your content I'm finding it so hard to get hold of a imac g3 I'm in UK so people scalp them alot and I think Linus is a really douche he has no respect for mac he's nothing but an hypocrite

[@KennethPlaysOfficial]

I agree. How could somebody do such a thing to a poor brittle plastic mac. The mac got off lucky.