The Best (Legal) Descent In The Lakes

[@jonathanspackman9290]

The drone put into perspective how awesome that descent really is. Wow!

[@McTrailRider]

It’s very good at that 👍👌

[@smithgov]

Wow, what a ride, what a well done production and what fantastic scenery. This is a fabulous video with two high end mountain bikers making it happen. Well done to you both.

[@samblenkharn8099]

Walna Scar, Helvellyn, Garburn Pass, Gatesgarth Pass are all also worth a look if you enjoyed what you ride today. All bridleways or byways too, so bikes are permitted.

[@McTrailRider]

Spot on mate, I appreciate the info 👍

[@matthewdufty606]

What a great video. I really enjoyed that. Also, thanks for the Strava route. Going to hit that in January

[@LakesMTB1964]

Hi Andrew the lakes is my playground and I have to say massive respect for riding those trails they are not for the faint hearted,

[@McTrailRider]

That last one was certainly on the technical side of things.

[@garyboyle695]

How ironic this vlog dropped when Scotland is so warm. That's Scotland for you. Hope you manage to get out this week.

[@McTrailRider]

I’ve managed 4 rides in the Sun since 👌😊

[@tallteacher]

Great video. Lovely to see the Lakes in the sun. Too much for me but still inspiring me to get out in the Lakes on my bike

[@dmc9487]

A great watch, gripping & that is just the handlebars. Well done to you both.

[@McTrailRider]

Haha, cheers dude

[@rogereheadbyrne4790]

Great Viewing Andrew Thankyou!

[@McTrailRider]

Thanks for watching 👍

[@bobstephenson8747]

Lovely video, bunch of us did that exact route a couple of years ago, classic big Lakeland mountain route - finished our ride with a canny pint in the Old Dungeon Ghyll though 😉

[@McTrailRider]

If it wasn’t for the event on when I was there, I would have stopped in for a meal and beverage myself.

[@DrFaroon]

Stuck in work in all this sunshine - great to see some trails and blue sky. BPW next week!

[@McTrailRider]

Something to look forward to at least 👍

[@A_AAA232]

awesome riding, stunning location, hard hitting trails - great filming and video, cheers

[@McTrailRider]

Nice, ticking all the boxes 👍

[@kyled121]

Great ride and vid Andy, really enjoyed watching.

[@McTrailRider]

Thanks Kyle

[@MiddleageMTBer]

Fantastic edit again Andrew ! Been looking forward to this since your Strava upload. The hike-a-bike up Rosset Ghyll is enough to challenge anyone, I couldn't face it as a 1st climb! I place it at my 1/2 way point when doing this loop (starting from Borrowdale).

[@McTrailRider]

It’s definitely on the steeper end of the scale. I quite like the fact that we got it out the way first, but we are all different of course👍

[@harbster2]

Excellent video - thanks fella !

[@allanbuchan6947]

Wow , that swim in lake looked amazing . Great riding and scenery as usual .

[@McTrailRider]

It looked nice, but not nice enough for me to bare the cold 🥶

[@Zzyyxx22]

I forget how lucky we are to have right to roam in Scotland. I guess that makes the paths busier if everyone has to be on them.

[@lozetchells9164]

Yeah I forwarded this to my English mate and said exactly the same thing. Love right to roam and the outdoor access code in Scotland

[@McTrailRider]

100%, it’s weird having to check to see if the trails allow bikes or not first. Even although there doesn’t appear to be any specific distinguishing criteria. Bridleways appear to be the equivalent of a drovers road in Scotland.

[@diggagt3574]

Gets pretty warm in Langdale when it' sunny. Wife and I camped at Angle Tarn one summer and got heatstroke walking back down to Old Dungeon Ghyl.

[@McTrailRider]

It was the lack of wind that made it wise when I was there. Heat stroke is no joke. Thankfully only had it once before.

[@diggagt3574]

@@McTrailRider yes, I think that valley can be very sheltered and also aligns southward. The sunlight and heat seem to radiate from all sides. Apparently, even 3 pints of cold beer won't cure heatstroke.

[@lozetchells9164]

Lovely scenery, great vid. 👍🏻 Dude it's stunning in Scotland here at the moment! Doing the ochils and Glendevon tomorrow so can't wait, sunscreen is packed!

[@McTrailRider]

Loving this weather right now 👌

[@Butchyboysadventures]

Brilliant lads i normality hike here but canbsee me slowly gettingbinto this biking game class good stuff loved it

[@si0054]

Do it, I’ve been a keen walker and fell runner for years and I moved to biking. I love being able to get about the lakes on my bike, especially routes like this.

[@DizRidesMtb]

That was EPIC bro. Wat a great video Sir. Proper belta day mate .

[@McTrailRider]

Thanks dude

[@Mugtree]

Love the Lakes and this route. So glad you got to ride it and in the Lakes (ps the four passes is ace too 😉). Glad James could show you around. Make sure you get back 👍. Awesome video as always ♥️👍. Also nuts how the clutch can noticeably affect the suspension 🤯

[@McTrailRider]

The four passes is on the cards 👍 Very happy with what James showed me on this occasion👌

[@Mugtree]

@@McTrailRider you’ll love it. Definitely stop at the Black Sail YHA for a coffee 😉👍. James is a very good chat 👏

[@mtbdadcebu2268]

Nice riding, nature view is amazing and is peaceful lookin combined with the fun mountain bike riding. Good stuff bud.

[@McTrailRider]

A combination throughout the day 👌

[@lozbowden7525]

It's always sunny on the Lakes ;-) Borrowdale bash is a Lakes Classic, albeit a tad dull due to road sections. However... the decent from Watendlath to Rosthwaite is an absolute banger...and legal. Worth persevering the road sections for this.

[@smithgov]

I did Borrowdale yesterday and was quite disappointed. This is not really an MTB ride with so much road on the route. This video however, this is a full on MTB ride.

[@lozbowden7525]

@@smithgov I'd start and finish in Grange. Cuts out some road and you still get the best off road descents. It is a classic.

[@orangealpine5267]

Love that descent, what a trail!!

[@dazbbgful]

Welcome to Englandshire 😊. Cracking ride mate👏👏

[@McTrailRider]

Thanks dude

[@docspuddin]

Great vid great riding .. The Lakes is my playground and only once in 10 years have I ever had a tut /moan from a walker. %1000 stunning riding place

[@McTrailRider]

That’s great to hear 👍 Mutual respect is all that’s required.

[@MartyFaeScotland]

Always a good watch!.. place looks brilliant!!

[@McTrailRider]

Incredible place 👌

[@sprockets_shafts]

another brilliant vide and from my neck of the woods this time...can you tell me what mudguard you use

[@rhettetherington1351]

Brilliant as always 👍

[@McTrailRider]

Thanks dude

[@andrewsutton1657]

2:40ish.. "just a bit more uphill, then 5 miles of descent" ... 3:20 "I've got no brakes"... Looking forward to the next sketchy 23 mins 🤪

[@lionelthompson998]

Well done. Great edit and a well judged commentary.

[@McTrailRider]

Cheers👍

[@Shooterthecat1]

Beautiful! Well done!

[@McTrailRider]

Cheers 👍

[@weekendbikingwarrior360]

Another stellar video, Respect!

[@McTrailRider]

Thank you

[@Jfree68]

Another gem. Cheers

[@McTrailRider]

Thanks for watching

[@scotlandmyhome7484]

Looked good for bandit country aka “get off my land” 😂 seriously, cracking looking place and some descent 👍

[@McTrailRider]

I was half expecting that tbh 😜

[@emtb-explorer]

Always fancied mtbing in Lake District, looked ace great riding holiday destination, I'm in the opposite direction for couple of days mtbing Ballater and Tarland first time, excellent footage will attempt to do something similar myself, cheers Andy! 😁

[@McTrailRider]

I’m just back from Tarland, what an amazing place!👌

[@emtb-explorer]

@@McTrailRider Was there as well today amazing trails, everyone I spoke to loved them, torn between going back there and Heartbreak ridge😂 which I can see from my holiday bedroom window, have hired ebike have until tomorrow 5pm so it's one or the other! 🤔

[@McTrailRider]

@@emtb-explorer definitely get heartbreak done, especially if you’ve got e-bikes😜

[@emtb-explorer]

@@McTrailRider Okay Andy will take you advice Heartbreak Ridge it is looking forward to it, cheers! 🤙

[@davidpotts1189]

Cracking episode, it's a bit of a beast certainly. I'm curious what McT thought about the elevated switchbacks climbing out from Langstrath 🙄

[@McTrailRider]

If that’s the first climb, I didn’t care for its steepness😜

[@davidpotts1189]

@@McTrailRider It was the climb up Stake after your pitstop at the Glaramara Hotel. The switchbacks seem such an odd feature although there's others in the Lakes.

[@McTrailRider]

@@davidpotts1189 yes, they are quite different to the rest of the day, but I really liked them.

[@stevestowe1110]

Brilliant!!!😁👍🏻👊🏻

[@InflamesGames303]

Loving the "being chased by Bee's" sound effect the drone provides. Awesome Ride & Vid.

[@McTrailRider]

Haha, it’s not the quietest 😜

[@dusankosik4363]

*bees

[@johngould3724]

Great video. On another topic though. I have been watching your channel for quite a while now and I began to wonder...is there an appreciable difference in running costs between your Deviate/Claymore and ebike? What sort of figures are you experiencing...on an annualised basis? Might be a good basis for another video particularly because you are probably better placed than most to comment - given the type and amount of riding you do, plus you have a foot in both camps.

[@guypaterson9503]

you better ride skiddaw via ullock pike and rigg beck if your down in the lakes, awesome

[@McTrailRider]

Can’t do a video of Ullock Pike unfortunately, it’s technically not for bikes 😢

[@markking8274]

Beautiful!

[@McTrailRider]

It sure is 😍

[@overthehillmountainbiking]

I loved the 'I'm not as fit as my edits would have you believe' quip 😂😂😂

[@McTrailRider]

It’s a very true statement though.

[@overthehillmountainbiking]

@@McTrailRider we all do it. I remove most of my coughing and spluttering 😄

[@maciej5873]

Please advice what tires you use in such terrain because I'm going there soon. And is it tubeless? I have Giant Trance full suspension from 2019 on original tires and they are too soft. Thanks.

[@McTrailRider]

Michelin Enduro race tyres, very heavy and strong. 100% go tubeless, it significantly reduces the chance of puncturing.

[@maciej5873]

Thx mate.

[@didzy9349]

how do you get on with the fidlock bottles? especially the bigger 800ml one? does it rattle much? looks like the design would allow them to rattle like mad, especially the bigger they get?

[@didzy9349]

@McTrailRider or what is it youve got strapped around the bottles as they arent 800ml ones clearly!

[@McTrailRider]

I highly recommend them. I certainly wouldn’t go back to standard bottles. I’m running two 450ml bottles at the moment and have previously run the 590ml. I’ve just ordered the new 750ml though. I’ve not experienced any rattle with any so far.

[@didzy9349]

@@McTrailRider thanks bud - what are the black straps around them? They don’t seem to have them in stock pictures?

[@McTrailRider]

@@didzy9349 it’s an extra brace, but I guess fidlock thought that they weren’t necessary.

[@didzy9349]

@@McTrailRider ah right cool sorry so you bought that seperately? It’s a official part they sell

[@simonhill4791]

Is it just me or does the drone starting up sound a bit like bagpipes......? 😜 (Brilliant vid as always)

[@McTrailRider]

Only when I’m in Scotland though 😜

[@surfitmansurfitman7680]

Even on Dartmoor the footpath can be better than the bridleways. It's not fair. You are lucky in Scotland. Watch out for the ramblers if you do use a cheeky footpath!

[@MTBScotland]

pretty much how I feel when I ride with you lol That is a sweet route.

[@McTrailRider]

It’s all relative I suppose Ross. A very good route for sure.

[@stupidmonkeykev]

Its a good loop for sure :)

[@gerardcallaghan5276]

Do u have the gpx mate? Couldn't see it here.

[@McTrailRider]

It’s the Strava link in the description 👍

[@kaneEvro]

How do you find the brakes Andrew? They Tech 4’s? V4 or E4?

[@McTrailRider]

Tech 4, V4’s, they are the best brakes I’ve owned to date 😬

[@hughmclean2018]

20:47 Class

[@McTrailRider]

That one could have went either way 😬

[@liam6200]

I hate that hike a bike up Rossett gill, it's a killer, done it twice in the past

[@McTrailRider]

I didn’t find it easy, that’s all I’ll say😜

[@ironian24]

that looks great for a fat tyre e bike, but not sure, what do you think? actually after watching the whole video im not sure my e bike would cope to be honest, those bikes are obviously made to withstand that punishment to them.]

[@jasonprfrost1]

Thought there was a lot of mozzies in the Lakes then I realised it was your drone.!

[@McTrailRider]

If there mozzies were that loud, I’d be very scared 😱

[@stevesguitarschool3654]

Having an issue with the Tech 4s?

[@McTrailRider]

Just contaminated, they’ve been brilliant outside of that 👍

[@Lakedistrictrider]

Welcome to the Lakes :)

[@McTrailRider]

Thanks

[@jonathancook4022]

Welcome to the lakes :D

[@McTrailRider]

Thanks Jonathan 👍

[@blackmac1970]

Way too busy but some great looking trails.

[@McTrailRider]

You got that right!

[@ashleyscarth8363]

this should be walk in the park for you

[@McTrailRider]

I felt it tough physically, and that last trail was up there in terms of technicality.

[@mtbguides_Rich]

Great vid much better than my poor attempt at filming it. To be clear you have no legal right to ride on footpaths and open access land, this is very different from it being ilegal. Just saying 😃

[@McTrailRider]

I hear ya 😉

[@mtbguides_Rich]

@@McTrailRider just for the record the track up Langstrath to blackmoss pot is a track with public access so no issue for bikes, after that it's a foot path up to the bridge. Interestingly most of that section is now a permissive bridalway thanks to the BHS, unfortunately it fords the river before the bridge.

[@keithoftheshire2805]

Lake district would be great if it wasn't for the huge numbers of tourists.

[@mountainbikerides]

Not sure about it being "best descent" that's one that could be debated by many :) You had better conditions for the 1st descent than when we did it as part of a two day ride: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4nFeHuHq6eUd5o

[@carrotman2871]

:)

[@McTrailRider]

👍

[@TheNotoriousMIC]

Pure “Fix the fells” vandalism from start to finish. It’s an absolute disgrace. I afraid there’s not many legal routes left that haven’t been destroyed. Honestly I’d stay in Scotland. 😂

[@trevoredensor7114]

A great route, ride and filming as ever Andrew . But I do have to take issue with you about the legitimate trails that we can ride here in England which differs considerably with Scotland. Whilst your comment about riding the footpath instead of the legal bridleway may have been said tongue in cheek, too many 'bikers ' ride illegall trails down here and don't need any encouragement from a self respecting and much viewed biker and u tuber as yourself. We all need to respect our landscapes and keep treadprints to a minimum...you may sense that this is my pet hate about mtbing !!!! Enjoy the remainder of your riding in the Lakes and as always I look forward to your next video.

[@McTrailRider]

To that I’d respond with “ do as I do, not as I (jokingly) say” 👍

[@markianross]

Looks like our laws might be changing soon to be in line with Scotland's "Right To Roam" - Labour have committed to introducing this if they win the next General Election, possibly meaning footpaths won't be off limits to mountain bikers any more. Personally I think the footpath / bridleway designations in England seem to be mainly quite arbitrary with no real logic behind them.

[@jonm7272]

And by that token the Kinder Scout trespass ahould never have happened, and no one would be allowed in the hills unless they pay some parasite landlord for the right to kill some wildlife. Bollox to the law, and 'legal access'. Ride wherever you like, but do so with respect to all other users and the trails themselves. Make way for walkers and take the time to chat to those you meet on the way. It was illegal trespass that gave the Ramblers the (still too limited) access that they currently enjoy in England and Wales, why shouldn't mtb follow the same trajectory?

[@2wheelsgood.]

Tbh it looks uncomfortable and annoying. Is this why the Scots lad sounds so crabby?

[@McTrailRider]

What struck as crabby?

[@bernardplaisted9139]

i may have shouted whoah Andrew and the almost otb wow another cracker and well interesting about the clutch

[@McTrailRider]

Haha, the clutch was a revelation tbh.