MacBook Pro Sleep Wake Crash (Part 1: Let's Try to Fix It) - Krazy Ken's Tech Misadventures

[@ComputerClan]

Enjoy the bonus episode for this week! Stay tuned for the big one on Thursday… where I dive into the Cardieo smartwatch (aka Apple Watch knock-off) scam. 🔔Subscribe so you don't miss it! I might host it as a KZbin Premiere, too! See you there.

[@flamingkillermc2806]

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[@sriramsundar8388]

Why didn't you say "Really! That's just great! You know I'm really doing great too!"? I'm upset😭

[@Feartech]

DiskUtility -> click on show all device, highlight main drive and then click erase, or to fix your issue, boot into recovery, open terminal and pop in: diskutil repairDisk disk0

[@lukejenkines449]

7TH COMMENT HOLY MACOS/WINDOWS

[@dobbse52]

Put a ssd in your mac

[@jchambon]

“Kensored” is the best thing on the thumbnail

[@ComputerClan]

Seems like it's our new running gag. : p

[@LegoWormNoah101]

@@ComputerClan You need a custom beep to complete the Kensorship lol

[@creativestudios5562]

It’s time For...... Mortal Kenbat

[@blueguest222]

@@LegoWormNoah101 Big Sur startup chime

[@CaseyQuotes]

@@blueguest222 Indeed.

[@Linux86]

MacBook Pro: doesn't wake up M1 MacBook Air: yay Krazy Ken is finally gonna upgrade his 7 year old computer! Krazy Ken: Uploads Video fixing his MacBook M1 MacBook Air: Aw Man :(

[@rrp6405]

I did the exact same, bought M1 then fixed same computer as ken and sent back M1

[@grizzlybear_1271]

@RRP M1 vs Pro

[@riponrip4574]

@@rrp6405 But It’s a very good computer! I would just stop bothering.

[@rrp6405]

@@riponrip4574 I preordered M1 and was a bit too new, not all software i needed was ready and the M1 had a problem where it would freeze for over 1 min occasionally. did see the potential for apple silicon but for me MBP works great and do like the 15" a little more over 13". think good deal on 2013 rMBP 15 is still very good computer. only if did video editing would upgrade to m1

[@HelloGlamorous]

turning notifications on was the best decision ever

[@jleuthardt]

Yes

[@alarmingly_good]

I know

[@NeptuneCheeseCake]

I feel like watching Ken fix things is the reason why I started following this channel.

[@kurt2742]

Reinstalling MacOS doesn't work. Tried it 4 times before coming across this video and still have issues!

[@Jean-lr4hv]

I think I have the same failure when I wake up for my 7 am class, I just keep dozing off 😴

[@robloxboxertblocked9636]

sleep wake

[@AstonAdi.flamemedia]

If you still don’t have it fixed, you did say yourself: It is part of the EFI, which the Mac will have to undergo a clean installation. You’ll have to get the installer from a different Mac to ensure that the issue doesn’t persist. Hope this helps.

[@evancrazyerror]

I think your MacBook is just mad at you for replacing it with something thinner and lighter.

[@OtioseFanatic]

Younger too, lol.

[@alarmingly_good]

Omfg yes

[@erictovar2885]

It's been too long since the last tech misadventures. Glad to see them making a comeback 👍.

[@ComputerClan]

Really? I released one 12 days ago : p

[@erictovar2885]

@@ComputerClan the M1 MacBook Air one? It's not the same 😭. I appreciate the troubleshooting, shot in the dark, let's try some shit misadventures videos.

[@Shadow_Lifeman]

Dang, I have basically the same exact model as you as my daily machine since college in 2013. I'm dreading the day something happens to it and I can't fix it.

[@Stevowoh]

Ever since I download Big Sur I’ve been having this exact issue. My screen blanks randomly and is a hassle to get back up and running. Then 2 minutes troubleshooting it’s working just fine exactly where I left off.

[@starinq]

"Man, those fans are LOUD!" Believe me, I had a 2012 Macbook Air(and still do) and I worked that thing TO DEATH. Those fans are quiet compared to mine.

[@TrolleyMC]

“Sleep wake failure in EFI” I would definitely try flashing the EFI BIOS next if this happens again.

[@ComputerClan]

How does one flash EFI on a Mac? I've never tried it before.

[@TrolleyMC]

@@ComputerClan I thought apple provided a tool for that, I guess not. Honestly if this issue shows up again I'd just replace the laptop.

[@Muehli25]

Updating macos does that automatically, but only with the original ssd.

[@MrCharlieBros]

@@ComputerClan you installed a new SSD from OWC which has sleep and hibernation issues in 2013 and 2014 macbooks, however Apple updated the NVMe driver on this old machines in Big Sur so the issue doesn't happen anymore, that's why you didn't had this issue there

[@ComputerClan]

@@MrCharlieBros Wait. For real? And I guess I can't get that driver for Catalina?

[@evancrazyerror]

If this issue re-appears, it’s most likely a symptom of when you installed Big Sur back in July. Big Sur (for some completely random reason) rewrites stuff the BIOS when upgrading to it for the first time. This has caused many black screen issues on Retina MBPs and even sleep issues on newer MBPs. I’m assuming this issue started after you upgraded to Big Sur. I would advice caution before upgrading to it, you might want to wait a little longer than you usually would.

[@jakthebomb]

I work on Macs professionally everyday. A few things you didn't try off the bat. NVRAM and SMC resets, when trying to format the drive, you didn't select show all devices, this prevents you from completely formatting the SSD.

[@ComputerClan]

I feel like I already tried the NVRAM and SMC reset, but I might as well try it again. Thank you.

[@RichSad45]

Stumbled on this channel. And it was like describing every recent MacBook Pro disaster I've had over the last 5 years! I felt your pain and bravery. The two disk partitions separate code from data. Sometimes repairing just the os works. Other situations you have to nuke it to its birthday suit and rebuild it completely. Most of the time the complete refurbishing will yield a working system (until it happens again on some other edge). I typically keep a cloud, local time machine, and a carbon copy clone before I tear down. With that redundancy you can find an easy path to restore to last good state (or you hope it was a good state). A lot of time if I debug deeply I find something plugged into the Thunderbolt ports is failing and bringing everyone down. Good video

[@SUGULU01]

I recently face the same problem with my macbook but this dude on instagram @mendozahacks got my computer fixed permanently DM him and thank me later

[@RichSad45]

@@SUGULU01 I'll check him out. Thanks. So far my new M1 MacBook Air is doing nicely, but of course it doesn't have the same use cases as my monster 4 thunderbolt port i9 MBP 16".

[@SUGULU01]

@@RichSad45 ohh, you should he's very good in his work

[@arthuro_agsl]

You should change your thermal paste and clean your fan because this is dang loud

[@carl92xu]

Yeaaaa. I've been having this issue for about a year now with my 2017 MacBook Pro

[@jromero.337]

I had issues this one too I was owned MacBook Pro 13 inch early 2015 within macOS Catalina. Then I got MacBook Pro 13 inch 2018 with TouchBar no problems!

[@Alex-cn1xt]

I had a Computer That Ran Originally Windows 98,But Was On Windows XP a Year, Then I upgraded To Vista, And Windows 7. My Childhood.

[@EveyRBLX]

I have this issue too. When I put my laptop to sleep sometimes it restarts and kernel panics. It’s done this 2 times. I am running macOS 11.0.1 (Dev Beta)

[@MarinaGarrison]

Can’t wait to watch this, had this error today in Big Sur at 17% on a battery that needs servicing.

[@ald261989]

I was having this issue in a 16 inch MacBook pro with 1TB SSD and 16GB of ram. I had multiple genius bar appointments where they wiped the computer and said they couldn't recreate the issue. It kept happening at home and finally, on the third appointment it happened in front of the tech/genius bar rep at the apple store and that's when they said we can do 1 of 2 things. Since I had AppleCare on the MBP at the time and they made me go through 3 separate appointments for this one issue the Genius Bar manager/supervisor/lead gave me 2 options. Option 1 was to do an exception return and return it for my full money back, $2800 plus the tax(they didn't let me return the AppleCare), and option 2 was to swap it for a brand new 16-inch MBP. I took my money back and I'm so glad I did. I just used $1750 of it to purchase a MBA with the M1 chip with 8 core GPU, 16GB of ram, and a 1 TB SSD and Apple care.

[@silencer51]

Protip: it's better to just use internet recovery for a fresh install, and remember to select 'view devices' in disk utility, which makes the available drives and partition schemes easier to understand, plus you can just erase and reformat the entire system drive

[@pinned.byjbravo7243]

*FEVY-HACKER* on ig just helped me now.having any issues message him on ig

[@ComputerClan]

I always forget about that View Devices thing. AAAARGH. Back in my day, the sidebar was just full of stuff. No extra clicking needed. XP

[@atarixle]

Hi Ken, I just bought a 2008 MacBook as "defective - for hobbyists only". And what can I say: works perfectly. And what can I say, still no spare parts for my other MacBook (which also works, but it's part of a tiny little mod-project).

[@Ajdrumzz]

0:35 me after the school year is over

[@elisosceles]

"I am proud to report, I have officially accomplished nothing."

[@carloslemare6060]

It's the hard drive... probably you changed it for a NVME with the special interface. Just disable deep sleep (I think it called), and you will be fine, however when the computer is suspended will drain battery faster. Another approach is to replace the hard drive with one of the expensive that apple use (OWC sells those). The problem resides in the lack of support for NVME drives in the EFI, more modern macs don't have this problem, just the old ones. My MBAir 2014 13" have the same issue. I just turn off the deepsleep.

[@thawkade]

I always enjoy your videos! Perfect timing for lunch too!

[@CherryTv_CUP]

Watching him erase the APFS volumes and not the entire disk was painful

[@LandonBrainard]

Mounting before erasing? Oof

[@sheev4958]

I know, right? I was like "click there to show the storage device, dude!". It was PAINFUL af, very cringe to be honest, i mean, he is supposed to know basic stuff like that.

[@CherryTv_CUP]

@channel 3 no copyright videos it was, my soul was ripped from me

[@steveolewski782]

it hurt my should. also the fact that he didn't use internet recovery and just get the latest copy of macOS

[@elisa.pinessi]

Hi! I have a macbook pro mid 2012, i use it only for safari. for weeks it works fine until it freezes and won't unblock even waiting for days. same when i have to turn it on, for weeks i turn it on and off, until a day i turn it on and it gets forever stuck on the loading bar. i do the SOS on the hard disk, and mostly of the times it has no errors. all i can do is restore factory it and reinstall the OS. can you please tell me where is the problem? is it just the RAM problem? so i buy a new RAM and everything should be fine?

[@WarhavenSC]

My theory is that you're stuck in the basement of Deep 13, forced to perform reviews and do tech support for the Mads, as they monitor your reaction to weird hardware glitches.

[@michaelepica3564]

didnt expect lore on a tech related channel :P

[@itsmesb4399]

My mid 2012 cuts out while I sleep but doesn’t seem to be any where near as bad as yours. I also noticed that when I patched it to Big Sur (thanks BenSova) it doesn’t do it any more.

[@hmvocaloid7360]

I love these videos of miscellaneous troubleshooting and random stuff going wrong

[@denvera1g1]

'Failed to umnount currently in use' Ah yes, i had someone call me with this problem because they wanted to format their USB, they were actually trying to format the UEFI/recovery partition. When you get this message, and you're already in recovery, it probably means that is where recovery lives, not sure, rarely work on Macs, maybe there is a seperate eMMC on the motherboard where the OS/UEFI tools reside

[@azxctbygalumbo9516]

My macbook pro recently died. I found it in a garbage can and took it home and created a new user account and used it for many months. It had a large dent in the bottom casing and a damaged but very useable display. Everything else worked fine for a while. eventually one day didn't power on or display any signs of life other than the charging light . Replacing the motherboard is expensive so I've been trying to figure out the best way to restore it.

[@mossykr0w]

Meanwhile my Mac just can’t even deep sleep anymore, crashes almost instantly when deep sleeping on low power- and Catalina being Catalina; it’s been persistent since the betas

[@jcgo16]

I remember we are having those kind of issues with regards to encrypted file system, Bluetooth devices do bug on encrypted file system as well *This is based on my experience at work*

[@ariahjade34]

I have had this issue before on my macs. Mainly when I installed Catalina on all my machines using the same installer file. Downloading another instance of the Catalina installer file fixed this issue after reinstalling with it.

[@sbrazenor2]

Before the battery, I would have reset the PRAM (power then Command+Option+P+R), which might have fixed it.

[@steen8156]

If you've seen some of the bats I've pulled out of that series of MP... believe me it was a good call.

[@jerrybomcool]

Can’t see anyone saying about the EFI issue. When you installed another OS it must have corrupted the EFI partition of the drive. Wiping the drive and Reinstalling is the best thing unless you have a backup for the EFI. You can use clover 🍀 to mount the EFI partition (I did this to install open core on my Mac Pro 2010) you could have fixed it easily from there. But again you wouldn’t have had a backup of the EFI drive This is the issue

[@Mcnibbus]

I literally had this on my 2019/2020 intel MacBook Pro this was extremely annoying when I had class

[@ianm-y5s]

i had this on my late 2015 imac

[@crazycatboyz]

there is sometimes a issue with sleep wake on 3rd party drives and filevalt

[@coyote_den]

I'm surprised my 2012 i7 Retina MBP hasn't developed a problem like this. Battery is worn out and only lasts a couple of hours, screen has some stuck pixels, and there's a big crack in the trackpad that doesn't actually affect functionality. But it still works, and it works well. Replaced the WiFi with an 802.11ac card and it runs Big Sur as well as any supported model.

[@Muehli25]

I had this issue too, but i used a nvme drive with a sintech adapter, that was my issue 😀

[@pixeiatedsan5609]

you know when your mac is a jet engine when it goes blazin’ fast

[@SchioAlves]

The first thing that came to my mind, since it said EFI problem and you tested Big Sur, was that it was upgraded to a buggy EFI by the Big Sur beta

[@evelynuwu]

could just be that the efi was corrupted

[@ilovewindows6851]

Im glad it got repaired again, I love windows 10 but Macs are a friend I wish it never gets a problem again so you can never upgrade LOL

[@anthologyofinterest1]

Had the same issue on my MBP 2014. Fixed by resetting NVRAM and disabling hibernation. One of those or both fixed it.

[@drbali]

Last time I was this early, Apple macbooks had expandability

[@Alex-dm8yq]

I had exactly the same issue on my 2018 Macbook Air, haven't had it in Big Sur yet though?

[@MattiasMagnusson]

That could actually be a overheating issue, try changing the cooling paste and clean out all the dust, if everything else fails, try a nother drive, if that fails remove all ram sticks except one and try again, if it fails, try the next stick and try again.

[@Crazy-Games]

Mac: sorry we couldn't unmount the hard drive partition because its in use by another program/process Ken: can we umount and erase? Mac: DiD YoU JuSt TrY ThAt AgAiN!? Ken; you son of a *honk finger* Me: *laughs*

[@lukewilson1092]

Light mode on Mac looks ugly to me I keep it on dark mode

[@kyriakosg]

I had the same problem on my 13inch 2014 MacBook Pro, where after sleep it would be stuck on the password screen and both keyboard and trackpad not responding and therefore needer a reboot. After a reset the problem disappeared.

[@rkars1]

THANK YOU COMPUTER GODS, Krazy Ken's Tech Misadventures IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ComputerClan]

I released one 12 days ago : p Granted it wasn't a troubleshooting episode, but still. : )

[@IHeartMacsH8r5]

How convenient that I have a 2014 Air that has this EXACT issue. I wish I could find a new sensor to just microsolder it on. Stupid hall effect sensor.

[@themacintoshnerd]

“Sleep wake failure in EFI” o h n o

[@nathandaven]

This literally just happened to me first time today. Same efi error. What the hell perfect timing

[@nathandaven]

Ended up just disabling standby in terminal, hopefully wont face the issue again! Same laptop late 2013 15 inch, except im on big sur.

[@Root3264]

I just remember my iMac doing the same thing back when I had it. And if I recall correctly, my (U)EFI was partly corrupted, which led to random crashes and reboots on certain occasions, like powering down. I didn't get it fixed, since it was too expensive and was always way too scared to fix it myself with the freaking suction cups you need to pull the screen off. Not mentioning I have no idea how to actually fix the issue even then. I really loved Apple when all my equipment worked. Then I hated it for making it difficult to fix stuff when it broke. Still thinking about a Ryzen powered hackintosh though!

[@j6259]

Hey dude I use a Ryzentosh and if you want to make one, just do it, it has the equivalent power as a legit iMac Pro

[@prismstudios001]

That boot up chime is now my text notification sound....How nutty is that?

[@JaylonLowe]

This happened with my 2014 15in Macboook Pro, Wiped it (multiple times), Worked for 3 days... The issue started happening again! I sold it lol

[@Superscoper20h2]

Right When The Computer Said ICloud Could Not Me Set Up My IPad said it wasn’t backed up!

[@tpelegrin1320]

My 13 » retina (2012) did the exact same thing before I upgrade

[@RichardLaurence]

My old MacBook Pro - same age as yours - has been doing this for well over a year. Big Sur seems to have made it worse

[@TobStonk]

"I have acomplished nothing" Great intro

[@TribitFanOpex]

Pkcells m8!

[@alarmingly_good]

Nice pkcells Edit: thx for 1 like

[@sc4stock]

OMG, I wished I had seen these videos or googled "Catalina crashed during sleep" before I upgraded my 2015 15" MBP to it. Tried NVRAM/SMC, reinstalled Catalina, Safe mode, ran diagnostic, etc... Going to try turning off the sleep mode hack.

[@jay_z0540]

When I open my closed Mac book pro 2020 with Mac OS Big Sur everything freezes is this this bug?

[@MichaeLBirung]

sleep/wake issue occur when replacing SSD on older Macbook pro 2014 below.

[@draggy76]

Might be an overheat issue, since you were saying it was getting hot and the fan was a blowin....

[@nicholasnguyen4705]

Wanna talk about that iMac behind you with Big Sur on it?

[@uptimefpv]

I have a MacBook that would overheat when it was sleeping, and also had a microphone that did not work. I upgraded to Big Sur, and every single one of those issues is now gone completely. Maybe the resign actually did something more useful than making your mac look like a glorified iPad?

[@geneg3]

Oddly familiar to when your MacBook Pro was freezing and you had Apple replace all the hardware BEFORE you discovered it to be related to a simple software issue😅

[@ComputerClan]

Yeah… I was thinking about that while making this episode. x_x For the record, I only asked them to replace the SSD, but they insisted to replace the SSD and the board. Oops. Oh well… didn't cost me any money. : p

[@Niko_Nikolai0]

"Now we are cooking with.. Shampoo" Absolute perfection

[@ComputerClan]

Yep! : D

[@Sykora171]

I've been dealing with this on my 15" Mid-2014 for a couple years now, ever since Mojave at least.

[@ComputerClan]

Weird. It started for me on Mojave, too. : o Did you try nuking it?

[@Sykora171]

@@ComputerClan woah, hey Ken! No I actually never tried that but I may now. Until now, I chalked it up to “must be the old battery” like you did! Glad you posted this!

[@rrp6405]

does it have original SSD?

[@Sykora171]

@@rrp6405 it does

[@rrp6405]

@@Sykora171 someone said in another comment its due to replaced ssd's having a problem with nvme controller. said apple fixed this with big sir update. i wonder if im having issue too, i have original ssd too. is it that sleep takes a while to engage. still hear fans after closing lid?

[@TrialMacameau]

Erase Volume Group is like if you have multiple partition this shows up as a method of formatting your disks and simply get it ready for partitioning Good tip there Ken : if you think you can't reformat the drive or unmount the drive you can always reboot to recovery and try again.

[@gurthuk]

Is this fixing the problem or just reinstalling a new OS over the top?

[@reki353]

Have you ever replaced the thermal paste on that machine? Manufacturers go for whats cheap in bulk, not high quality.

[@reki353]

plus Thermal paste can harden over the years...

[@cmjvanrijn505]

Didn't use mine for some days and when I turned it back on it was stuck in a bootloop. Did try the battery connector thing but no luck yet

[@AndySelf]

Battery connector thing?

[@thepiterp5]

„I have proudly acomplished nothing” Basically me everywhere

[@JARVIS1187]

Volume group: APFS container I also like "over night, it has been about 15 hours".... :D

[@henson2k]

I've installed Big Sur on my MBP 15" (late-2013)

[@henson2k]

@NCODER01 won a lottery

[@xXLegendXx70]

Have you thought about applying some new good thermal paste to your Macbook Pro?

[@Kevroa1]

I'm still getting it on Big Sur :(

[@RaeOrRaven]

OH NO!

[@thepianozoopmasterMAN]

Same with me, whenever I walk away something happens. I personally have issues with my mac, too.

[@JonathanPersaudx]

I've seen this issue before. It normally has do to with file vault for me when you load it up with files or an aftermarket ssd. Like you said its not death just annoying.

[@ComputerClan]

Huh… I've had a bunch of people say 3rd party SSDs are the issue. x_x Oddly enough, I've had some people report the issue and they're not using 3rd party SSDs. Overall, this episode WILL need a follow-up! (Because after I shot it… the issue came back. RIP.)

[@tylerroberts7312]

This might be a dumb question, but could it just be overheating the processor?

[@GWagon63]

My new favorite expression: now we’re cooking with shampoo 😂

[@ryanjcole]

Wasn't the issue the soft-sleep? where it would wake up and check things intermittently and that wake/sleep cycle caused the issues?

[@ShorkiStudios]

I had this same issue with my early 2020 MacBook Pro 16" before I took it back. it would randomly/occasionally reboot and come back with that error. I now have the MacBook Pro 13" M1 and it has no such issues.... so I'm not sure tbh

[@MabsTheSilly]

Holy shit, is that thing behind you an old iMac with Big Sur?

[@ejonesss]

it is possible that the security stuff. file vault, sip and anti boot and install non apple os security. try turning all that off and just make sure not to have anything critical on the mac that you dont want stolen.

[@o_o-_-8639]

I have an 15 inch MacBook pro retina from mid 2012 and when the charger is not plugged in and it’s asking for power it turns off and this happened when the battery is at 70/60% maybe is the battery but sometimes it does happens no matter what and it’s not overheating...

[@Eftyhis_Vavagiakis]

I have the same exact problem on a Mac Mini Late 2004. Is this the only way to fix this problem?

[@charminbaer2323]

I'm also still on a 2013 15" MBP and I have some sleep/wake problems, BUT, I thought they were related to me using a 3rd party NVMe SSD, which is known to cause some sleep/wake problems. There's a work around by using Terminal, but even then, I have the sleep/wake problem sometimes. I'm gonna try doing a clean install, hopefully it fixes it. I'm on macOS Big Sur now btw.

[@Ironapple09]

This sounds like my 2010 MacBook witch freeze during sleep, then reset it own smc on boot up 2 times then boot up slow. But when it up it works fine.

[@southbend-chicago.railfan]

Take the hard drive out, and put it back in. Clean out all everything with compressed air. Reinstall the original OS. Then use it until 0%. Charge it, reboot it into recovery and install Big Sur. It should work, I’ve tried that on my 2012 MacBook Pro which I still have. Charge it to 66%, so it gives it cleaner time and energy to work properly. The more you use it, the more heat it gains into it.

[@ComputerClan]

That probably won't help, but I appreciate the suggestion. Part 2 may reveal more answers. : ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oprIeIaYodumZrc

[@southbend-chicago.railfan]

@@ComputerClan No problem, just trying to help in any best way I can.

[@lukewebster3452]

I had that problem once while updating to macOS big sur it just stopped and I could not make it wake up without pressing the power button but no error message and that is the only time it has happened

[@Abbycried]

This did the same to my macbook 2011 pro I did a mac os update and when I'm in the desktop it freezes up and give me the beach ball and it doesn't even let me install mac os on it

[@shbakram]

Lately the Macs have so many issues. And for me the recurring issue of if the Mac is not on wall power even if fully charged would shut down after a long sleep was just a show stopper in the end after a decade. I mean across decades they are let down by these corner case issues otherwise such beautiful machines. (Surface Pro user now, so far ok.)