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@thabelanglawrencenthako20242 ай бұрын
Fixed term contracts I think that's what the premier was referring to...
@King-wo5hn2 ай бұрын
🎉❤
@tsalaphoofolo94372 ай бұрын
Pls bring in Angie Motshega / Patrice Motsepe / Suliman gift of the givers / Vusi Thembekwayo / Babes Wodumo / Lira / JZ / Ayanda Borotho / Nomzamo Mbatha / Bonang
@SuperOwizaАй бұрын
Panyaza can laugh 😆
@mhlelilatsha33832 ай бұрын
Dudu deserves the whole flower business. When we give her her flowers 💐
@Kgaogelo-wq4ci2 ай бұрын
Last episode Dudu literally told them this thing of being a "fact checker" is more like a demotion yet sol expected her to be super quick n versatile... She is good in bringing the best individuals for interview
@yonelatavern2252 ай бұрын
@@Kgaogelo-wq4ci However, it also highlighted that even the seemingly "small" or "low-level" job/task still needs a certain level of expertise... ❤
@florina22572 ай бұрын
@@yonelatavern225yes❤
@premiumteacher74219 күн бұрын
@@yonelatavern225❤
@thembilemadunasime41952 ай бұрын
He is so relaxed 😊 ngathi uhleli no chomie bakhe
@xolanimweli62252 ай бұрын
well sad
@thatodesireesefali6742 ай бұрын
He's a chiller that is why 😊
@xolisasukwinimangali63252 ай бұрын
He's a chiller that's why 😅
@patienceramawa6322 ай бұрын
Only MacG can bring out the authenticity of a person ❤🎉
@youmatterlt2 ай бұрын
True that
@syconnkadimeng32442 ай бұрын
can't believe how Mac transitioned from soccer to politics🙌🙌
@mbalilala60802 ай бұрын
The guy is good..
@Machiavellian932 ай бұрын
Swiftly
@nontuthukodlamini84952 ай бұрын
Epic transition
@normantsima9932 ай бұрын
Bro. That was a Clinical Transition
@mamoshunkwanecalvin52442 ай бұрын
Goats 🐐 move 😂
@gideonmonaise99012 ай бұрын
Mac is the best when it comes to not asking obvious questions. He gives us more about a person than what we already know
@patienceramawa6322 ай бұрын
So true, he is Yotv podcast 😂😂😂😂
@MasegoMalatji2 ай бұрын
Mac is genius 🎉🎉
@thekisothai2 ай бұрын
Dummy
@busybeesmedia82962 ай бұрын
Mac G has found another laughing twin in Panyaza😂😂😂
@xolisasukwinimangali63252 ай бұрын
😅😅😅😅Uyeva
@nellynellz56382 ай бұрын
The high fives are wild 😂😂😂😂
@sibusisomashini21602 ай бұрын
true🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@hlasinyanemotaung6602 ай бұрын
Definetely
@ndeshiambiga52002 ай бұрын
sooooo trye
@Lufuno.R822 ай бұрын
Panyaza is a real chiller 🔥🔥
@MotanyaneMathumetse2 ай бұрын
I'm looking at how he interact, he is very chilled ❤
@sonwabileMawisa-yp2os2 ай бұрын
Very useless
@xolisasukwinimangali63252 ай бұрын
True that 😂
@MotanyaneMathumetse2 ай бұрын
@@sonwabileMawisa-yp2os don make your problems mine please
@ThabisoMokone-m7r2 ай бұрын
This is the first time i hear someone selling what ANC have done so good. This is the right guy for his possession
@tonymkhuzo66822 ай бұрын
He should be the SG of the ANC not the current clown
@nontuthukodlamini84952 ай бұрын
He made me appreciate that too.
@kernencoopi3302 ай бұрын
Don't be naive
@Tebogo16v2 ай бұрын
@@kernencoopi330 ur delusional
@vusimakoa15452 ай бұрын
Same as we appreciate the advancements. A measure of success is never about what you have already done. Nor what your plans are. The results of a citizenry without advancement are a big loss. Higher everything negative. Unemployment. Development. Advancement. livelihood and the likes. Smart Politicking in your own direction is never a measure of a country success. I believe there are many other politicians that would still, in the same vain , claim they could have done it better.
@sammylu47022 ай бұрын
Let’s sign the register for Panyaza guyzini ✅… present teacher 🙋♂️
@danielmonyaka36052 ай бұрын
60% of people here are unemployed . ANC AND PANYAZA FAILED TO CREATE JOBS FOR A BLACK CHILD O BUSY O NWA JALWA LE MAC G
@sammylu47022 ай бұрын
@ topen a spaza shop ke. Panyaza for SA 🇿🇦
@ndabajay16262 ай бұрын
✅
@masango54812 ай бұрын
Our kids go to school that are far from home because of him.I hate him with a passion.
@cindyhlophe73762 ай бұрын
He was driving water
@SiyabongaNdlovu-ow4rs2 ай бұрын
I just love Adults who are not uptight.. Panyaza is a whole Minister and an adult but he ignored that and became young so that they are on the same level with Mac and Sol... Great man this one.
@NAADube2 ай бұрын
The environment is conducive, you express yourself without being sensored
@ricardofigueiredo5132 ай бұрын
A lie here and there😅
@akaniseabela80972 ай бұрын
He's not a minister
@SiyabongaNdlovu-ow4rs2 ай бұрын
@akaniseabela8097 Okay PREMIER BUT you definitely get the point..
@CredoMaxwell2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 Premier @@akaniseabela8097
@simphiwedladla27362 ай бұрын
Hendaaaah MacG, Sol and Podcast n Chill Team, I just wanted to say thank you for being my go-to entertainment during my exams. After long hours of studying or during late-night crossnights when I felt drained, your show kept me going. Yesterday, I got my results and I’ve officially completed my degree at the University of Zululand! What you do is more than just interviews and trending topics, it’s been a real source of energy and motivation for me.
@monyanetumelo58992 ай бұрын
Congratulations chiller...
@abelkekana2 ай бұрын
phakama chiller congratulations
@YOUNG-NASHY2 ай бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS 💯💯💯
@blaqbee032 ай бұрын
Congratulations Simphiwe, may you have endless job opportunities..
@cheozeze_world2 ай бұрын
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
@AzolaPohlwana-gf1jp2 ай бұрын
You can tell that Panyeza is a chiller because he's referencing previous shows of podcast ❤
@amahlemvelasi91822 ай бұрын
first person from ANC that made me understand how Big the responsibility they have as a political party
@rethabilemachela67682 ай бұрын
me too, got to understand the constitution
@michellesodindo70262 ай бұрын
As a Zimbabwean othanda indaba zako makhelwane I enjoyed this interview.
@pebbleyamosa5552 ай бұрын
Ntate Lesufi has that infectious laughter mahn😅....One of the few politicians who still has that "Seriti" .... "Isdima"...." Dignity".
@mandla84472 ай бұрын
Wait until he starts running for presidency. They will be making bad stories about him
@mariamoagi175919 күн бұрын
Oh very I laughed every time he laughs❤
@teboholetele41982 ай бұрын
The first time I enjoy a political interview
@priscillankhabe45512 ай бұрын
Same😂
@karabotsubane96452 ай бұрын
Saaaaaaamme !! Yho!! 👌
@Mmakosha2 ай бұрын
Right😊😊
@KgosiMolefe-l7q2 ай бұрын
And Gayton.
@papakhananicamillaentertai95922 ай бұрын
Same and gayton
@sydneymazibuko34582 ай бұрын
I DECLARE MACG ONE OF THEE BEST INTERVIEWER, This interview gave me a different view abwt Panyaza.
@DimpanePokgisho2 ай бұрын
I love how Sol knows how to articulate Mac G words and makes them to sound understandable,great team ❤️🤞
@tumelo27582 ай бұрын
That is exactly what we missed on the Errol Musk episode. Mac really needed Sol, that interview had soooo much potential.
@fundizulu58342 ай бұрын
@@tumelo2758exactly my thoughts
@VictorMulaudzi-j7v2 ай бұрын
MacG once said the only problem with his mind is that it runs so so fast
@tumelo27582 ай бұрын
@ Sol balances him very well. He is the perfect co-host for someone like Mac
@lebohangtsele8472 ай бұрын
Man I like Panyaza a lot. He is not a typical ANC comrade
@diphapangmotholo24552 ай бұрын
N pretty outspoken n smart too. Love him❤
@johnphiri41092 ай бұрын
Probably my favorite politician and South African
@Malfunctionware2 ай бұрын
He knew you would fall for it you just been played.
@Daloo2 ай бұрын
@@Malfunctionwareyou think?
@iam_aphe2 ай бұрын
Panyaza for President! If that happens I'm voting ANC. Loved this interview. Enkosi Leadership 🫡
@Matthewnini6372 ай бұрын
Once you become a president all yr scandal will known even the business of your son yr cousin business I'm not saying is corrupt but every thing will make clear by social media
@nthabisenglauretta64642 ай бұрын
Mac G please send my regards to Mr Lesufi. This interview is helping me to write some great arguments into my masters degree thesis about languages in South African schools. Yal dont know how much information i have gathered from listening, thank you very much and great interview.
@Bongi_ZamaMboma2 ай бұрын
Panyazas laugh is so contagious 😂😂♥️
@mariamoagi175919 күн бұрын
😅😅❤❤nje
@ArthurBwanakawa2 ай бұрын
To see Panyaza laughing with Mac G,it speaks of the Man.
@thulanebenzo662 ай бұрын
Much as I don't like the anc, Panyaza is one leader I would love seeing as a President one day...already saw and listened to his many interviews, and I'd like to say that you will never easily meet someone as genuine as him. Enjoyed the interview Mac n Sol, you're the best guys🙌🏾
@katlegoserai49352 ай бұрын
He has potential
@katlholomapoloba28962 ай бұрын
I would definitely vote for the guy.
@emerymukendi97522 ай бұрын
Ntate Lesufi you are such a bowl of joy. Your ability to engage even when it goes against what you do not ascribe to
@Valerian772 ай бұрын
Panyaza is a real chiller he really watched the Monday ep 😮😮😮
@ditopanchachi48762 ай бұрын
No bombastic words and just a plain & simple English words throughout the episode, #PhakamaPanyaza🔥🔥🔥🔥
@ThusoTshiping-iw9ex2 ай бұрын
macG has mastered the art of interview.no need to use Jargon and complex language to make it easy for chillers to understand.
@thabanglenkoe43912 ай бұрын
😂 smart guy
@takalanimadzhie19842 ай бұрын
I mean how does he make everyone so relaxed....our Goat this one....phakama chiller
@olwethuthandomehlomakulu78672 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if I'm the only one here but Podcast and chill is really changing the game on what's considered as media... This is what we need as south Africans ,pure & clear intentions on bettering SA . Thank you P&C team, this is what you call a network
@suzanorefile1702 ай бұрын
Lol I love Ntate Panyaza Lesufi’s aura, his laughter is so contagious. Now I have a different view about him😂🏆🙌🏽
@meshackmuzima6142 ай бұрын
Well done Mac and Sol for the great line of questioning... MacG's talent/ability to have everyone loosen up in his interview must be studied in universities🤞🏿🤞🏿...🙌🏿... Dankie ntate Panyaza for being so open and putting things clearly without resting on old laurels but rather taking accountability and acknowledging short coming by this government... Showed maturity and wisdom... And his infectious laugh😅... I enjoyed this interview and probably the best politician interview👌🏿
@monyanetumelo58992 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@MongeziPeter2 ай бұрын
Panyaza is an amazing politician, leader, South African and human being.
@Malfunctionware2 ай бұрын
Nonsense.
@JaneMokgadi2 ай бұрын
Hee! Nda!,to INdlondlo ye podcasts VoMokwebo [Mag G] & team, Ndlovukazi Dudu🎉, fly high Mag🎉🎉🎉
@ronewakevin27452 ай бұрын
Panyaza for president!!!!🔒🔒🔒🔒
@skeelo12 ай бұрын
I share the same sentiments...
@Dooby_daddy122 ай бұрын
I like how he's so calm under pressure
@Inno4992 ай бұрын
He is hey
@Africaisnextpodcastclips2 ай бұрын
I think people will be interested to hear him speak. He is truly an interesting man. Looking forward to this.
@SandileMayekiCPT2 ай бұрын
McG is pure genius, not your typical broadcaster. Chillers we are blessed and Sol just compliments him, especially on the more technical questions.
@tetelo_og2 ай бұрын
Amazing tag team
@sibongakonkemtshali20342 ай бұрын
Ay bafan MacG is on a different league.
@themba20122 ай бұрын
MacG is on another level today , he's asking amazing questions big up Mac. Panyaza is always on point , its been 30 years the life of the Mases hasn't changed. ANC TIME IS OVER NOW
@nkululekodangale77142 ай бұрын
You lost me when you said panyaza is always on point 😢.
@Vuyo_Fono2 ай бұрын
You deserve to be our President Cde Panyaza..You are a true leader
@danielmonyaka36052 ай бұрын
WHY? WHAT DID HE DO? DONT BE FOOLED BRO ANC PANYAZA FAILED BLACK CHILD
@evelynnorahdlamini57372 ай бұрын
Mr. Panyaza's laugh is so contagious. 😂😂😂 And he is smart.
@Koketso.x2 ай бұрын
The way you guys are able to make people feel comfortable is insane👏🏽
@MfundoNtuli-n1k2 ай бұрын
What a informative interview with grootman panyza, wish was in the room, amazing atmosphere reminds me when I am at home chilling with my uncles absolving information.
@romeonkosi58822 ай бұрын
Panyaza's laughter is contagious yohh ive been laughing when he laughs 😂😂
@Nicky08-r1p2 ай бұрын
Me too 😅
@thabisomaelangoe81462 ай бұрын
Panyaza kept on complimenting the channel ❤❤❤❤❤well done to podcast n chill team🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 you're always delivering ❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
@sanelisiwembanga40642 ай бұрын
And he’s a Chiller so proud of Mac G❤️
@sihlemazibuko67742 ай бұрын
We need Dr Ndlozi next pleaseeee
@cindyhlophe73762 ай бұрын
Eishh he must get the permission from the cic still
@sihlemazibuko67742 ай бұрын
@ nah not anymore
@HulisaniBlojo-sl8vb2 ай бұрын
Yes
@Oleratomoyo13082 ай бұрын
😂😂@@cindyhlophe7376
@LeonNkala2 ай бұрын
He is very smart to respond!!!
@siphosimelane22142 ай бұрын
I didn't know Mr Lesufi was this funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@philghostrunnersimali4812 ай бұрын
MacG was cooking here, well done.🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@Tefl-Tesol-teacher2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this guys, it was great!!! Panyaza is so cool and relatable, just like TK Nciza...maybe after most of the elderly guys retire, we can look at associating with his party...unfortunately for now the gap between us and them is just too much, they just refuse to relate to us, the people on the ground...
@amosgalela82192 ай бұрын
I don't think I know a best interviewer in Mzansi that's better than McG he's my 🐐 OTHERWISE MY PEOPLE HAVE DONE IT AGAIN ANOTHER GREAT SHOW I SALUTE 🙌🙌🔥🔥 💥
@TshepisoManabile2 ай бұрын
This guy is a leader 👏 🙌
@ThatoKhumaloTK2 ай бұрын
So happy this was a 1 on 1 interview and not the normal studio.
@lindaniselepe52572 ай бұрын
After listening to Panyaza he gave Me hope that he can be the next ANC President and South African President I will defenetly VOTE for HIM #OurfuturepresidentPanyaza
@ninamaphoroma71142 ай бұрын
The truth is when Panyaza speaks I hear him, Shem! 👏🏽 well done Team!
@amukelaniirvin_SA2 ай бұрын
Mr Lesufi's vibe is contagious.
@mbalimaseko42012 ай бұрын
I admire Mr Lesufi's bravery, I have, on a few occasions disagreed with some of his opinions but he stands for something great and he is unapologetic about his stance in political policies and principles. His laugh is bold and contagious😂
@RealOVK27 күн бұрын
His laugh is so human, he is honest. He accepts but he still wants us to believe. I am a fan from today.
@KaraboMasemola64082 ай бұрын
I completely agree that South Africans share the responsibility of maintaining their cities and communities. For too long, we've relied solely on the government to address these issues. However, we must acknowledge our own role in contributing to the problems. We often complain about the dirtiness of cities like Johannesburg, but we're also part of the problem. We litter, and sometimes even bribe officials or give 'cold drink money' to avoid accountability. It's time for personal responsibility and accountability. We can't solely blame the government for corruption when we're complicit in it. Instead of just complaining, communities should come together to clean and maintain their cities. We need to take ownership of our actions and work collectively to create positive change. Until we change our own behavior, we have no right to complain about the state of our cities.
@tshepishochuene12802 ай бұрын
Wa re resha Tau. We should impose general hygiene standards within our cities and communities before they completely succumb to decay.
@laura73012 ай бұрын
Even this issue ya Vandalism when people are striking. We are taking ourselves back!
@kelemadileng9376Ай бұрын
Yoh I was so triggered when I read a comment somewhere that "Give the European bricks and he will give you a city but give an African a city and he will give you bricks". Driving around my area the other day I realised that if I wanted to have a better area then I will have to get involved.
@JohnKolisangMoshoaliba-o5i2 ай бұрын
MacG and Sol are just unstoppable...this platform will change the country..politicians now know they will always be held accountable by atleast over a million Chillers. Great team indeed,ALL OF YOU💯
@mphumelelimthimkhulu80532 ай бұрын
"Football Swallows money "😂😅 king of punch lines #solphenduka 😂
@cindyhlophe73762 ай бұрын
Please simplify that for me...I'm having a blonde moment
@tmlsa98302 ай бұрын
@@cindyhlophe7376 Panyaza said He lost a lot of money in football, while he was President of Swallows FC.
@MphoMehlomakulu2 ай бұрын
can we have Mr President of our country in the chillas because MacG and Sol can handle this big dudes yooh 👌👌👏👏
@omphilemofokeng7502 ай бұрын
A toast to Podcast&Chill🍻🍻Such a flowing conversation. Mr Panyaza, Mr TK and Mr Kgosientsho came here not to defend the ANC but engage and point out the shortcomings but also highlight the good that has been done. To be honest, a lot of good has been done but alot more can be done. S/O to everyone involved to make this episode possible🌟🌟
@gomolemojane48912 ай бұрын
Oh this episode was so refreshing. Panyaza is so cool
@SikelelaShenxane2 ай бұрын
McGee you and your team, i wanna say I'm great full for watching one of the best podcast as yours...Your podcast educate us almost everyday you drop an episode, salute to you and your team for making this possible 🙌🔥
@blackdeityonline8345Ай бұрын
did not know Mr Lesufi was this interesting you deserve our salute
@azalianieuwenhuys88442 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us chill with our future President 🎉 respects to Dudu and the team for making this possible
@ubuantaunation80122 ай бұрын
Sir Panyaza was one of the first politicians to be really best show team
@lemuelhove12682 ай бұрын
Panyaza's laugh is so contagious 😂 . Thank you for this episode I truly have more respect for him
@yandie_z2 ай бұрын
Every interview I see of Panyaza, I actually find that I like his personality. He also strikes me as a man of integrity and good character.
@dialekarabo19442 ай бұрын
I got to really put myself in the ANC shoes and understand their decision…
@comfortshi77392 ай бұрын
Nice conversation, beautiful to watch Panyaza
@zamanhlangothi92902 ай бұрын
I agree with you
@nhlakaniphodlamini78512 ай бұрын
Thanks MacG for interviewing my leadership @ Mr. Panyaza , I have been following him for more than 20years
@nonhlanhlankosi54862 ай бұрын
The one person who changed the township schools and gave our children a chance at a better education🤞👌. I'll forever respect him for his role in the Gauteng department of education. If he were to be president, I'd definitely vote for him. Thanks MacG and the team for letting us see a different side to who he is♥️
@GogoMahlabahlabane2 ай бұрын
Mr Panyaza Lesufi for president 🎉
@jimbaloyi43612 ай бұрын
Can we agree that Tk Nciza and Panyaza Lesufi episode are episode of the year.
@TravelEffect-oj3xv2 ай бұрын
This guy is very streetwise. He is eady to talk to ...laughs a lot and knows his story. He doesnt convince u to agree with him...answers straight to the point.....Bravo
@tebohomaholi67382 ай бұрын
I'm fond of this comrade,danko Mr Panyaza❤
@TheOlgad2 ай бұрын
This interviee made me view Mr Lesufi in a different light. Well done to Podcast and chill and Macg you held this interview once again
@squadsamasupa51012 ай бұрын
Thank you Panyaza Lesufi 🙏🏾I really love our Premier
@MinisterPaulIsrael2 ай бұрын
The wisdom on this podcast 🎊 This Father has so much knowledge and very calm.
@liopelokhechane90172 ай бұрын
Um really proud of Dudu. She is doing a great job neh. The way Macg ask questions, wow this guys is so brilliant. I love podcast n chill hlena. Joo
@kingthembabuthelezi2 ай бұрын
Mac G and Sol literally asked everything we would ask when given the chance and I'm not political but Panyaza answered like a human not a politician dodging questions, obviously certain things we expected better answers on what action will be taken on certain issues but this was a good interview 👌🏽
@karabolegodi20912 ай бұрын
Answered like a human 🔑
@TebogoFeltonMoropyane2 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉December and still an agent at Rochester mall of the north. Thanks to all your prayers , podcast and chill I can buy my son Christmas clothes. ❤❤❤❤❤❤We are together forever
@thulanimotloung31892 ай бұрын
Surely back than our people where blind folded by excitement of freedom before making decision 😢.😢😢😢
@VukileMakhanya-i5e2 ай бұрын
One of the best political interview I've seen 💯 ❤
@thabelonemagovhani69032 ай бұрын
As we approach the upcoming presidential election, I urge you to consider the remarkable leadership and vision that Panyaza Lesufi brings to the table.
@johnphiri41092 ай бұрын
That is why there is a huge target on Panyaza, its obvious that he is a competent person fit to lead the country.
@LM_OLIGARCH2 ай бұрын
MacG is the best..like I watched Panyaza’ interview recently but I never heard this side of Panyaza
@milward58682 ай бұрын
I suspect that Panyaza may become the next president of the African National Congress. This belief stems from the noticeable push to increase his visibility on the ground through traditional, mainstream, and non-traditional media. This effort is significant, especially considering the ANC's ongoing renewal mission, where all these elements seem to converge.
@nemo_shrts2 ай бұрын
Mac is a legend. His ability to seamlessly transition from serious discussions to lighthearted moments is truly remarkable. He’s undoubtedly one of the best interviewers out there.
@tlhologelomakotanyane4272 ай бұрын
Wow I enjoyed this interview, Comrade Panyaza is such a cool guy, I love his laugh Lolllll Well done guys
@myperspective20192 ай бұрын
Thank you for answering some of my questions Mr. Panyaza Lesufi🎉🎉🎉
@oscarkhakhu23802 ай бұрын
Wat I like abt macg is his homuor wen conducting interview...no wander guests becomes open and comfortable...
@escobar20502 ай бұрын
The video screen addition is dope. One edit, use the screen to fact check and not your phone just like how Joe Rogan does it. Dope interview
@thabangmahlamonyane30452 ай бұрын
Danko Venda boy, you never disappoint as usual. As for Dudu, we do recognize you baby girl. Keep them coming.
@SibongiseniBZondi2 ай бұрын
I have new found respect for Mr Lesufi🙌🏿🙌🏿
@nhlanhla85012 ай бұрын
Beautiful episode thank you Dudu, Mac & Sol
@Mphumlelibawuti2 ай бұрын
Such a beautiful interview thanks to Mac G and Sol as well the team 🙏
@nhlanzekontuli89812 ай бұрын
Not much into politics, but I am enjoying this interview and liking this Sir.
@blackkonnexion2 ай бұрын
*"Not much into Politics?" What are you 12? You must be from Swaziland or UK then🤷🏿♂️
@nhlanzekontuli89812 ай бұрын
Ey voters wena!
@buhlendwandwe84952 ай бұрын
@@blackkonnexiongiving kiddos vibes not much to politics wtf
@lilliannhlapo23092 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing Panyaza the questions were top 👌🏾 I can listen to him