Machine gun or firearm toy? Bump stock creator speaks out before Supreme Court case

[@mattb4580]

He said driving 180 in a sports car is fun too but not allowed. But did they ban the sale of those cars?

[@echospaw899]

oh!

[@jacksilver930]

Correct! And you can take a sports car to a private race track or private land and still go 180 mph. The government doesn't prevent you from owning and enjoying a sports car just because it can go fast. So, his analogy sucks!

[@prst99]

That may have been a counter argument cut out of the segment.

[@mro4440]

If people were killing 50 people at a time with them then yes we should look at banning 180mph cars. they have no utility just like the bump stock. When people cant go to a concert without the threat of being killed then the killing product should be banned in the interest of public safety.

[@timlamay4281]

I agree. Concerts should be banned. So should cities where mom and dad gamble away the kid's food money.@@mro4440

[@aboringsandwich]

"turns a weapon into a killing machine" Who writes this nonsense?

[@ekloosterman]

Ignorant anti gunners

[@I.G_NL]

Agreed. And the whole vegas thing was dirty

[@abluecardigan]

journalists

[@barfo281]

@@I.G_NLAnd it was done on RINO Trump's watch....the leftist clown who did more against the 2A than Obama ever even tried to do.

[@MysteryD]

I was about to type this

[@FSD_1776]

The rate of fire in the Las Vegas shooting is NOT the same as coming from a rifle with a bump stock. These also don’t make you more accurate, on the contrary you become less accurate.

[@slavesoul78]

don't need to be accurate in a crowd

[@melgillham462]

​@@slavesoul78The weapon used in las vegas was a belt fed machine gun. Not a bump stock. And youd be amazed how easy it is to miss a crowd.

[@mountainjews]

@@melgillham462maybe if you’re retarded lmao

[@leagarner3675]

@@melgillham462 I don't know if you realize that pretending the FBI would hide a machine gun at a crime scene makes you look like a whacko.

[@stripmin41]

Watch the video Jerry Michluk trying to use a bump stock from 5 years ago. He was faster and more accurate without it.

[@jamesb2291]

Wait until they find out what someone can do with a file and drill press.

[@PPaul556]

Shut up, Marv...

[@DarthUr-zd2hp]

You don’t even have to do all that. It’s not difficult to make your own Lightning link if you want full auto. Hell you can even bend up a coat hanger just right and have a drop in device that can be installed or removed in seconds without altering the gun in any way. I wouldn’t recommend it of course, just something I saw on KZbin 😂

[@ryanw2553]

​@@DarthUr-zd2hpDamn assault coat hangers!

[@Jason_556]

@@DarthUr-zd2hpright! I’ve been told it only takes about 30 mins to make.

[@the1spurs]

@@ryanw2553they must be banned… the coat hangers of course

[@bryanfox2735]

People that know how to use guns know that you don’t use a bump stock to be a better shooter.

[@LoveableLincoln32]

But you use it to have fun!

[@zakazan8561]

glock 18cs and mac 10s are notoriously inaccurate, yet they are the weapon of choice for gangs that can afford them to kill large amounts of rivals. Spray and pray works better in real life than it does in video games.

[@Dietznutz132]

​@@zakazan8561no way you just said that. The only time I've ever seen a switch work is when he was standing over top of the guy. Those MFS can't shoot and the people who can can't even really control that

[@TheRealWattLife]

​@@LoveableLincoln32🤡🤡

[@Migoladon]

@@zakazan8561you gotta be 11 years old or something coming up with that bs

[@LouC518]

It's amazing how many people die from alcohol every day in the U.S but nothing is said about that.alcohol isn't written into the U.S constitution either.

[@monotech20.14]

Wrong. There are many regulations on alcohol. More so than firearms.

[@leagarner3675]

Have you heard of anyone using alcohol in mass murder of our children?

[@prst99]

@@leagarner3675mass murder by alcohol is always advertised or claimed in the media and by organizations like MADD. Thousands of deaths a year is a mass murder.

[@prst99]

@@monotech20.14the point is alcohol is deadly directly and indirectly. Yet the alcohol is not banned. The same should be with bump stocks.

[@Nolimitation1]

@@monotech20.14 No you are incredibly wrong. There are far more restrictions on guns than alcohol.

[@ravenslaves]

"so the bumpstock let's you fire faster, more accurately" ..."more accurately "??? ...idiots.

[@GTFBITK]

Yep, these are urinalists pushing the narrative.

[@PartTimeJedi]

I used to have one for shits and giggles. Used it a few times and found it to be useless. Turned my precision AR into an inaccurate bullet-wasting garbage rod.

[@GTFBITK]

Journalists are just breathing op-eds

[@nwerd7584]

thats why as soon as people started putting space between each other at the LV show he was no longer hitting people. it was only effective with everyone in a tin can, especially from the distance he was if you believe the 3 letter agencies that is. Theres still never been any proof that disproves him as some sort of an agent with all the firepower and access he had. And they use this as ammo against Trump. Trump doesn't know about guns that's why he always had experts around him. he just chose the experts poorly. Its not a gotchya against Trump imo.

[@BushidoBrownSama]

more accurately than bump firing otherwise and more accurate than many fully automatic rifles

[@drewsirry9118]

Turns a weapon into a killing machine is the finest dumbassery I've heard.. Also the fact fully auto weapons are so regulated is terrible.

[@RecursivePB]

Where do you draw the line then? Should we be able to own rocket propelled weapons? Fireable tanks? Nukes lol? There has to be a line for dumbasses who want to kill

[@mountainjews]

You look how I’d expect someone saying this to look

[@devilsoffspring5519]

Hehehe yeah, ever been shot with a non-automatic weapon? It lengthens you life and even makes you feel all warm 'n' fuzzy :)

[@77Avadon77]

You should be able to own whatever you want to own

[@devilsoffspring5519]

@@77Avadon77 You are though, constitutionally anyway.

[@terryrogers9700]

On December 29, 1890, hundreds of U.S. troops surrounded a Lakota camp and opened fire, killing more than 300 Lakota women, men, and children in a violent massacre. Las Vegas was not the biggest mass shooting in the United States.

[@enchentez]

THIS.

[@chova1123]

Go back to 1863 and read about the Bear River Massacre of 350 slaughtered by the military

[@ec329]

its worth to mention that they did this after they were disarmed by the government, NEVER FORGET 2A IS FOR EVERY RACE EVERY PEOPLE IT A HUMAN RIGHT.......

[@ker4all]

trump for JAIL 2024

[@melgillham462]

​@@ker4allObly in your crack daddy bidenfuhrer delusions.

[@gorehammer1]

You can literally bump fire any semi auto with practice. You don’t need a stock

[@phillhuddleston9445]

True, belt loops help but are not needed. I guess belt loops will be banned as they are machineguns now too!

[@infamous407]

I was thinking this the whole video.

[@proguner]

true, but if your using a Glock its gonna jam 30x more

[@stayinyourlaneplease]

with finger

[@tank8285]

True. But doesn't an accessory that makes it so anyone, even without practice or proper training use that effortlessly make the weapon more dangerous? Let me put it another way... if u could buy a product that could turn you into a professional athlete, would that be acceptable? Would it even be worth participating anymore? The fact that the creator himself couldn't answer whether he would feel differently if his children were harmed by an evil person using his invention should tell the whole story.

[@OldGreyBeard45]

You don’t need a bump stock to bump fire. He is within the regulations of one bullet fired per trigger pull.

[@waimeagavin808]

The regulation is actually 2 bullets per pull of the trigger hence why you can still get binary triggers.

[@RichardsCranium]

@@waimeagavin808 wrong! binary triggers fire on pull and fire on release. 1 bullet per trigger manipulation.

[@kidfunkyfri3308]

It's per function of the trigger ​@@waimeagavin808

[@johnvahl762]

It is fires more than one bullet (or round) with a (or the) single function of the trigger. They didn't say single pull of the trigger because some firearms have a push trigger. It was in the oral arguments.

[@cmm3338]

Incorrect, binary triggers fire once per trigger manipulation. 2 or more rounds per manipulations is not legal anywhere in the United States.@@johnvahl762

[@mrmouse-ol9pw]

As a 2a supporter i think bump stocks are silly, but just like the pistol brace issue atf is not a law making organization. Thats a dangerously slippery slope

[@tartanfdo9769]

exactly- It's great Jeremiah made a bunch of money, but by themselves bump stocks are silly. The problem is ATF cannot just change its mind.

[@Danlight1911]

EXACTLY, even if you're anti-gun this shouldn't be the path you're pursuing. Giving agencies the ability to bend the law to their favor is a fast way to even further corrupt our government.

[@900jayjay]

I agree

[@cliffcharpentier34]

@@tartanfdo9769not about changing it’s mind. Legislatures can make and change laws. Atf has been doing it themsleves for some time not. Like a fourth branch of government

[@ker4all]

trump like bumps in the night little man!

[@mattlarson9897]

It is not about the product, it is about the ATF overstepping their authority. The product does not violate the law. If you truly wanted to ban the product then it needs to be done with Congress, not by the ATF.

[@rkba4923]

Congress has no lawful power to hinder or destroy our right to arms and is bound by the COTUS like every other branch/officer of government.

[@josh05683]

We’ll…see, it wasn’t done by the ATF. It was done by Trump.

[@TristanMorrow]

Bump stocks and binary triggers were banned by Congress *and Trump signed it in 2018* ...what rock have you been living under?

[@mfallen6894]

Yep. ATF can only enforce laws passed by Congress, not make it up as they go like they've done with bump stocks, forced-reset triggers, lightning links, solvent traps, etc, etc, etc. Chevron Deference needs to be thrown in the trash (along with the NFA)

[@duganashley1337]

feels good. the freedom@@rkba4923

[@llN3M3515ll]

"that converts an assault weapon into a machine gun"... So what's an assault weapon?

[@5demelo1daniel0]

There's no such thing! Assault is an action. I can turn anything into an assault weapon

[@cliftonjackson441]

i believe its a weapon class in video games

[@chesterwilberforce9832]

This is the biggest problem with the attempt to come to grips with guns here in the States. Language means everything. If you can't define something, how can you ban it? I have a Ruger 10-22 that by definition is also a semi-automatic that is, in function, identical to an AR platform rifle. The only thing you can assault with my Ruger is a squirrel or a tin can. Yet legislators not aware of this would create language that would treat both identically while the difference in power is the difference between a lightning bug and lightning.

[@jakem4579]

An “assault weapon” is any and all modern firearms that the establishment/managerial class doesn’t want you to own while they arm themselves to the teeth with anything they please. For your own good and “safety”. Obviously.

[@davidrodgers2534]

A vehicle driving down the sidewalk of new york city

[@killshot2534]

“People that are bent on violence will achieve violence regardless with the tool they use”. Best quote out this whole video.

[@user-jv4ue3kt4r]

By that logic why have any laws or police at all? Should we legalize murder? No, Because the law works when it’s ENFORCED. If a criminal won’t follow gun laws, the police will make them.

[@killshot2534]

No that’s not what it means. It means theirs no point to infringing our 2nd amendment right. Take guns away the enemy will use knives or any blunt sharp object. Murder is murder but self defending your self is something else:

[@JJ-ph1]

@@killshot2534​​⁠False equivalency- knives are nowhere near as lethal as assault weapons. There’s no such thing as stray knives but stray bullets kill all the time. You can’t murder dozens of kids/cops in seconds with a knife. Also gun laws still allow carrying for self defense.

[@JJ-ph1]

@@killshot2534​​⁠​​⁠False equivalency- knives are nowhere near as deadly as assault weapons. There’s no such thing as stray knives but stray bullets kill all the time. One can’t murder dozens of kids/cops in seconds with a knife. Also gun laws still allow carrying for self defense.

[@GOD719]

@@user-jv4ue3kt4r Having laws against murder doesn't prevent murder. Just determines the punishment afterwards

[@lawrencepickering1564]

That wasn’t a bump stock, that was an M60. Nice try, but no way. Shall not be infringed!

[@leftoverpastaz1182]

It was clearly a MP5

[@stephenneimann7263]

240Lima, its cyclic rate matches cadence

[@stripmin41]

Now do a story on parts for handguns from China used in certain cities across the US.

[@danielmartin7838]

They won’t do that for fear of being called “racist”. They just want to take the livelihood of a wounded warrior who overcame the TBI and impoverishment by doing what Americans do best, innovate, invent

[@youandme9569]

What delusional world are you living in ? Why would China needs to export handguns to America. That's like saying Americans are stupid because of other countries when in reality it's the other way around.

[@zeusdetro8173]

Such as?

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

@@danielmartin7838The mainstream media has been all over Glock switches for the past year.

[@rudy_ad]

The 2nd amendment is the 2nd amendment. This man got him self off of Welfare, and invented a gun part. What does race have to do with any of this?

[@nunya2814]

Funny the rate of fire on the shoots fired in vegas doesnt match what an ar 15 is even capable of.

[@ker4all]

once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"

[@dim7239]

@@CraigScottFrost It was a belt fed machine gun that he used

[@OPV305]

Wait until these people learn what a small rubber band can do

[@imthebadguy3225]

or a shell casing behind the trigger.

[@sushi_wolf]

@@imthebadguy3225you guys sound like Darwin nominees.

[@andreaholcock8992]

@@sushi_wolfgo ahead and get all your aggression out here, I know you don’t confront people IRL

[@TheRealWattLife]

​@@sushi_wolf🤡🤡

[@imthebadguy3225]

@@sushi_wolf I've never met a coward who didn't try to play it off as maturity.

[@thelore2755]

Credit where credit's due, the guy has massive balls for participating in what essentially is his own hit piece in order to get his side of things.

[@ryanw2553]

We don't believe in running and hiding. It would have been a hit piece if he wasn't setting em straight with facts. Its not a machine gun.

[@BenjaminSchollnick]

@@ryanw2553 It was still designed and intended to be a hit piece. He may have defused some of it, but .... They did everything they could to portray a bump stock as transforming a gun into machine gun

[@ram89572]

​@ryanw2553 This is ABC my dude. They are leftist legacy media. This is a hit piece and if they could have edited it to be more of one then they would have done so

[@STho205]

I think this story and the interviews were fair. Rare in modern network news. The functional end of the accessory is to make a civilian semiautomatic rifle behave as a military automatic. Now the law as written, passed and signed 35 years ago does not cover this accessory. It does cover internal modifications to turn an Armilite 15 into an M16...but not external non mechanical accessories. The exhibition was clear and the close up examination of the bump stock was also clear and fair. The vet that designed it only lives a few dozen miles from me, and the hills around me have lots of private range practice in rapid fire semiautomatics. His final conclusion us correct though. Agencies have no authority to make laws or broadly interpret them. Congress and a presidential signature or override make laws.... However he did submit his design to the ATF for approval, and was fine with them approving it....just upset when they reversed the decision. You can't legally agree with an agency right to approve and then cry foul when they disapprove.

[@YZXRYDR]

The opening statement, "He's a promoter of mass death." Obviously makes this a hit piece. No question.

[@kingofkingsmoonpie4075]

Never used in Vegas. Those was fully automatic rifles. There is no way someone, even with hours of practice, can fire that constantly with a bumpstock. Listen to the sounds very carefully.

[@immikeurnot]

I remember seeing pictures of the hotel room and at least one of the rifles had a bipod. Anybody who's used a bumpstock knows that it won't work with a bipod.

[@ker4all]

once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"

[@melgillham462]

Rate if fire is not even close either.

[@kirrasdad]

It was bumpstocks, you're an idiot.

[@curtisthorn6838]

The fact that there is even a bump stock invention and debate is just pure Idiocracy.

[@JohnDoe-gq6yg]

"it turns a weapon into a killing machine" i swear bro who cleared this into the script lmao

[@imthebadguy3225]

♀️

[@leeking1939]

Well what else is a bump stock used for besides putting more bullets down range? Not for hunting...

[@elia7597]

​@@leeking1939you are also an idiot, keep watching the news they'll keep you informed.

[@imthebadguy3225]

@@leeking1939 2A was never about hunting.

[@tomorrowsnews3915]

@@leeking1939 Glock switch

[@Captured-On-Camera-Reviewer]

The title is very misleading because all firearms aren’t toy’s period. Those who look at firearms as toys need more firearms education.

[@3clowns469]

No your brain just doesn’t comprehend. Its an attachment for guns. It says nothing about a gun being a toy

[@fishybusinessco.8398]

@@3clowns469 you have fun with toys even a six-year-old understands that

[@NakedSageAstrology]

That's the point, they are showing the mindset of bumpstock users playing with their toys.

[@shannonbarber6161]

@@fishybusinessco.8398 Is sex a toy?

[@stesgaming4570]

@@fishybusinessco.8398 and i have fun with guns. by your definition it's a toy. good dialogue.

[@OofOuchOwie]

Those shots in Vegas did not sound anything like the cadence of the bump stock

[@paulis7319]

Newton's 4th law of motion: For every enjoyable action, there's an equal but opposite government reaction.

[@ShadySKWASHA]

Ironically that equal and opposite law of motion is exactly how the bump stock works. I feel bad for the invetor cause

[@MsPBJTime]

​@@ShadySKWASHAdo you feel bad for the families who will never see their loved ones again?

[@sushi_wolf]

@@MsPBJTimeI think ARs are fine, fully automatic or the resemblance of that is not.

[@jasongrice5600]

​@@MsPBJTimedepends on which families your talking about😂

[@superuser8636]

@@sushi_wolfWhy? They were legal for civilians to buy until 1986 so there is really no text, history, or tradition of banning them. You can still buy and own a fully automatic today if manufactured before 86 - that is the government admitting they are sunsetting your right to own one because eventually, they will be impossible to locate. Even Clinton’s AWB did nothing statistically to erode violence so not only is gun control ineffective but it’s moreover unconstitutional. Repeal GCA/NFA and abolish ATF, no compromises

[@Bicbawsaq]

A machine gun is defined as a weapon designed to fires more than one round per trigger pull. Neither the bump stock nor the frt do this.

[@nickkerivan5780]

yea they should change it to a single pull of the finger

[@Bicbawsaq]

@nickkerivan5780 no, that would be an infringement like the nfa

[@Bicbawsaq]

@nickkerivan5780 that would make your finger a machine gun and everyone would go to prison

[@iDeagles]

*”per function of the trigger”* is actually the wording. That’s why binary triggers are also legal under the current set of infringements. 😂

[@Bicbawsaq]

@iDeagles yeah, one pull of the trigger "per function "

[@theredbaron057]

Wood, PVC, duct tape. Got it. Thanks ABC! Guess it doesn't matter if they're banned, sounds like their super easy to make at home!

[@Tyrant_Popper]

“This converts an assault weapons into a machine gun.” 😂

[@dough254]

I thought about that when she said it

[@Jasonbourne19741]

I have never assaulted someone with my rifle so it's just a RIFLE in my world.😂

[@DRob-gq3ki]

politically charged language sucks they ought to just talk normally and let society formulate their own opinions.

[@cameronlampe6384]

As soon as that person says “assault rifle” is when you stop listening to them seriously. Don’t waste any more of your time. Because obviously all they know about firearms is the workshopped anti-gun language leftist corporate media outlets spew into their living room.

[@martincool9221]

You dont need a bump stock to shoot fast. It takes technique to shoot fast without a bump stock.

[@gw1814]

Makes it a lot easier.

[@JosephAdolphgusStrauss]

But when u have both ❤

[@JuliusDeuxmar]

@@gw1814 the only thing it makes it is expensive and you rarely hit anything

[@imthebadguy3225]

It's like a wierding module from Dune. If you're good, you won't need it.

[@alexv1190]

Or a belt loop

[@logicae4096]

It’s not about bump stocks but if the ATF can arbitrarily regulate on accessory, that means they can regulate pretty much any part of the weapon with impunity. We have a tyrannical government, let’s not give them any more power. I’m not for bump stocks but make the law, not have the ATF do random crap.

[@ker4all]

once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"

[@rafaelmercado7363]

The funny thing is that they never say you don't really need a bump stock you are able to shoot it like that without one . All you have to do is leave an empty space between your shoulder and the stock of the gun.

[@imthebadguy3225]

True, but I'd never try that if people were shooting back!

[@JohnDoe-gq6yg]

i mean most of the time you wouldn't even use actual full auto unless you were just laying down suppression. @@imthebadguy3225

[@zachhenderson7982]

Or use your belt loop

[@clutchboi4038]

Yup. Keep finger stationary and then pull the rifle forward off the shoulder. Can literally do this with every semi auto rifle.

[@OregonCrow]

Takes a lot of practice, bump stock you can discover it on youtube and buy before the video ends. Ban Guns

[@johnhawkins2105]

"Turns a weapon into a killing machine"? I'm sorry, was the semi automatic rifle not a killing machine prior to installing the "bump stock"? The worst statement I've heard a media presenter make.

[@TractorWrangler01]

"As fast as the gun will go." Yeah....nope. That will NEVER be a machine gun. Its just a toy.

[@lilrow4206]

Well you should know what he means by that.. A semi-auto rifle will almost NEVER shoot as fast as a machine gun, even if converted. Unless you're using FA rated parts, h2 or h3 buffer, etc. You could theoretically get p quick w/ a bumpstock like that. But also your rifle will be nearing 10k

[@PaulTierney-nb3qe]

Banning works great. Remember prohibition

[@its.Andy1]

A bump stock is like a short shifter modification in a manual transmission car. It lets you change gears faster, allowing you to get up to speed faster, but it still doesn’t make it an automatic transmission.

[@flobie1kenobi]

What's this? We're still blaming guns instead of people?

[@katrinadarling3271]

I’m a little bit curious as to why a ban on fully automatic guns isn’t considered unconstitutional.

[@MYMARSHMELLOWLIFE]

That’s the great part… it is unconstitutional. We just allow the abuse of rights to continue.

[@user-jv4ue3kt4r]

Because it would turn our country into a war zone like Afghanistan or Yemen. The right to bear arms cannot infringe on the right to life and safety. If you want to live like that, move there. Don’t turn our country into y’all qaeda or the gop taliban.

[@user-jv4ue3kt4r]

Because it would turn our country into a war zone like Afghanistan or Yemen. The right to bear arms cannot infringe on the right to life and safety. If you want to live like that, move there.

[@user-jv4ue3kt4r]

Because it would turn the country into a war zone like Afghanistan. The right to bear arms cannot infringe on the right to safety.

[@user-jv4ue3kt4r]

Because it would turn the country into a war zone like Afghanistan.

[@jordanm6m637]

A M249 saw was used in vages.

[@kpp234]

Fuckin thank you no fuckin bump stock literally a squad automatic weapon for suppression,

[@d.i.m.eproductions6925]

Actually it was an M240, slower cyclic rate and the amount of carnage is in tandem with that platforms MO

[@sushi_wolf]

@@kpp234proof it was used, was there photos of a saw in the room? I sure didn’t see a saw or any belts from a saw being used.

[@sushi_wolf]

@@d.i.m.eproductions6925proof?

[@LanternFlies]

Sit down gravy seal.

[@mrtahoe]

Belt loop bump stock is the way to go now boys

[@DaveTex2375]

According to their logic, Jerry Michulek's finger needs to be banned for making guns fire so rapidly. A gun accessory that requires a certain degree of technique to make a gun fire more than a single shot is not a machine gun, which only needs you to hold the trigger down. No further action or technique is required.

[@mikepiurkoski9762]

Wait till they find out what someone can do with 4k pounds of metal and plastic moving at any speed above 0 mph.

[@ker4all]

once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"

[@SleepySkull1]

The thing is, you can bump fire without a bump stock. The bump stock only makes it safer. It's literally a bad and awful way to waste your ammo. The only thing is the fun factor, until you realize you just wasted 20-40$ of ammo in 5 seconds.

[@leagarner3675]

Unless you're a mass murderer.

[@kentonsoufal6340]

The original bump stock made of wood PVC and duct tape just proves that literally anyone at home can make one of these things. So banning them won't stop people from having them.

[@stefanl5183]

Anyone at home can make a "lightning link", with just a piece of sheet metal and that will truly turn your semi auto into full. And it'll make your shooting more accurate because it doesn't make your entire gun bounce back and forth. People looking to do bad things will find a way to do bad things. Bump stocks are just toys used by people who like to shoot their guns. They aren't the problem. They were just trying to have fun in a way that was legal until big government decided to crack the whip.

[@tomorrowsnews3915]

What a cool inventor. No tired talking points about legal rights and gun over-regulation from him, just humility.

[@JohnDoe-gq6yg]

"No tired talking points about legal rights" what an insane thing to say lmao.

[@tomorrowsnews3915]

@@JohnDoe-gq6yg I expected him to be a different about it but he was chill. If the government had that much say in my family businesses profits as they do for him I would be spouting as much as possible about how our rights are being infringed by them as soon as they put me on camera.

[@JohnDoe-gq6yg]

lol my bad i took that in a totally different way@@tomorrowsnews3915

[@CombatWombatSTL]

Remember that the ATF is an Executive Branch Agency not a Legislative one and has absolutely no authority to be making policy in any way shape or form. If these people are trying to prevent gun deaths they are going to be quite upset when they finally start the War they've been building up to for so long. Dont comply with Unconstitutional Actions of corrupt Governments. Defending against corruption is a perfect example of why owning these devices is a CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHT.

[@thelispinglizard5458]

Thats not a machine gun

[@kw8295]

functionally it is though. Function over form

[@331StrokedGT]

By definition, it is not.

[@lukezeiolf6977]

@@kw8295functionally it isn’t tho lmao

[@thelispinglizard5458]

@@kw8295 do you even know what the definition of a machine gun is by the ATF? one trigger pull per shot is semi auto. When you pull the trigger and hold it down and it keeps firing that's what the ATF defines as "automatic". what the bump stock is doing is not what a classically defined machine does. When the gun fires and the recoil pushes back on the buffer spring the stock receives that energy and then pushes back with equal force causing the shooters finger to reset the trigger each time.

[@Jason-cn5vo]

It was banned illegally by the atf

[@donaldreynolds4003]

Many drivers add "an incredible amount of lethality" when they drive drunk or text and drive and speed.

[@spacecatboy2962]

yeah, its against the law to drive a super car 180 on the road, but you dont see them banning ownership of super cars right?

[@oper12m]

Wake up people that was not a bump stock that was used in Vegas.

[@Thomas_Paine1286]

Rape, murder, and dealing drugs are celebrated as entertainment in rap music, WHY doesn’t this bother you ABC News?

[@jedibike]

I can sum this story up in three words: freedom is scary!

[@stevenm7146]

It really should be though. It'd be nice to live in freedom without living in fear.

[@LoveableLincoln32]

Freedom is scare that’s why you should have a gun. 😂😂 bunch of pussies.

[@iDeagles]

You forgot the “deal with it”. 😂

[@jeannerogers7085]

Especially in a country full of trigger happy idiots.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

@@stevenm7146 Here in Canada we get to live in fear and DON'T have freedom! We get the best of both worlds! Yay Canada! Yay tyranny!

[@ar-15techtipsinunder5minut8]

A machine gun is not defined by Federal law by how FAST a gun shoots, but instead by HOW a gun shoots fast, thus Bump Stocks are not machine guns.

[@samsaasen4922]

“It turns a weapon into a killing machine.” Geez Louise

[@DRob-gq3ki]

@samsaasen4922 you can turn anything into a killing machine

[@cyberbully7942]

yall gonna wish we had that bump when crap hits the fan.

[@aaronhysong405]

thats why they outlaw the stuff they kill us with do as i say not as i do its not what your country can do for u but what u can do for ur country i hate being a slave for the rich and i hate stupid can fix that. but when it comes down to crap hitting the fan there will be full autos all over the ground period so atf is nothing but a joke we the people will be fine as long as u choose the right ctr for live. much love for u all. o i wont be using one anyway i like my trigger finger its faster just a lot of practice practice and practice and then more practice not joking i have full control and the power to make the right choice defend ur people not the rest movement is very important remember its not the gun its the person period i would never harm anyone unless i really had no choice be true to yourself dont trust the goverment ever they are the rich sickos that have made us their slaves...

[@ker4all]

once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"

[@Jasonbourne19741]

not really you will run out of ammo way before me.😂

[@foodistzen]

@@Jasonbourne19741it takes 3 seconds or less to change a mag

[@95ellington]

@@foodistzen How many can you carry before you blew through all of them with that rate of fire?

[@wcsoblake85]

In layman's terms the definition of a "machine gun" is more than one bullet is fired with a single press of the trigger. I.E. holding the trigger rearward continually fires bullets until the trigger is released. These bump stocks and other kinds of triggers do not fit the ATF's definition of a machine gun. I have a feeling that a law will be suggested that regulates the number of rounds a weapon can be fired per second/minute. That is a horrible idea but government officials tend to be terrified of guns. Instead of more gun control, the government needs to spend more time and effort on helping those with mental illnesses and keeping criminals in jail instead of these no bail policies. More people in America are killed in motor vehicle collisions than by firearms but that does not seem to upset politicians. Also, most shootings are committed by criminals with stolen guns, not people who legally purchase firearms. Just imagine what it would be like today if in the 1760s all firearms were banned in America.

[@todydn]

The vegas shooting was nit carried out by the bumostock guns the dude also had an actual belt fed 240 bravo firing 308 also i promise there was more than one shooter you can hear 3 diffetent rapports in the span of a second wich is 3 different guns firing

[@jlcinternet]

They were trying to get conservatives to jump on the gun banning wagon by attacking a country music festival. Same plan as Operation Northwoods.

[@scavl14]

Look at flight radar of that night, it tells some interesting things. Video footage from the ground also shows some stuff too. Taxi driver in manadalay bay entrance had cell phone footage that showed shooting from a different angle not from the "alleged room". There is more going on in Vegas that night compared to what we were told.

[@todydn]

@@scavl14 100 percent i didnt know any of that but i dam well know what a 240 sounds like and an ar 15 both bump and real full auto that distance it would take an absolute master of sustained fire to do what he did alone hell it would take idk maybey 4 to 6 people who where very highly trained to get that level of accuracy in that time frame so i agree much like alot of things maui texas palestine indiana and the chemicals are all very weird not to mention the gas line in ohio that blew up could be seen for 3 states around

[@scavl14]

@@todydn I started out as a M249 gunner and then switched to M240. The fire rate is more consistent with those two than a bump stock. Don't forget the second room door was allegedly locked, so the armor piercing rounds fired at the fuel tanks on the Mcclaran Airport were fire by "who". Leaves more questions than answers that we got. Timing of everything gets questioned. Railway stuff looks more like profit over maintenance, though after one or two derailings. Things should be halted in a safety stand down.

[@todydn]

@@scavl14 one thank you for your sacrifices and welcome home soldier. Second you are litteraly the first person ive met who gets it.... last one and we can be conspirabros lol. Do you think fentanyl is juat a bad addiction crisis or a purposefull chemical attack by china

[@hammonds82]

I guess they better outlaw your thumb and belt loop cause it does the same thing lmao

[@derschwarzgeist]

Careful, the gAyTF already said a piece of string is a machinegun...

[@Donttreadonme2024]

Fully automatic shouldn't be illegal to begin with. The founders meant civilians to have the same firearms as the army

[@TS-us5tm]

The Las Vegas shooting video definitely sounds like a belt fed, not a bump stock.

[@supertigerroadtrip5193]

Anyone who's shot a belt fet or been around a belt fed being fired, quickly realizes this.

[@LanternFlies]

Go back to the 182nd chairborne gravy seals.

[@TS-us5tm]

@@LanternFlies what the hell are you talking about?

[@dwightrider5713]

I have been a competitive 3 Gun shooter for many years. I have met hundreds of gun owners and none of them ever mentioned owning a bump stock. They were always looked at as a novelty by competition shooters. No one I have shot with ever used one for competition, or even target practice. I have heard they can be unreliable as you have to hold them a certain way. None of that really matters in this case. This is not a 2nd Amendment issue and it has nothing to do with the horrific mass shooting. The issue is as fundamental as our democracy. Can a government agency without Congressional approval make private property illegal with the stroke of a pen? There was no grandfather clause, no compensation or buy back program. You legally purchased an item and could have owned it for years then one day some government agency says your property is illegal and if you do not hand it over you can go to federal prison and be fined thousands of dollars over a piece of plastic. It is the definition of tyranny. If you are ok with giving the government that much power then we have no democracy. It is that simple.

[@kerpwnt]

Just a kinda dumb "range toy" that doesn't interest me. However, the legality of it does interest me. If someone wants to ban it, they need to take it up with their congress people. The National Firearms Act has clear language, and bump stocks are NOT machineguns, nor do they convert a gun in to a machinegun. Government agencies can not re-make laws. That is the stuff of dystopian dictatorships. Very anti-democratic.

[@ThomasNux]

I don't object to making bump stocks illegal, I object to either the Executive or Judicial branch of our government making laws. Laws are the exclusive responsibility of the Legislative branch.

[@PoormansMachineGun]

Banning the device doesn't ban the firearms ability to bump fire.

[@cmf.atwill]

The 2nd amendment says "Shall not be infringed". The Founding Fathers were very specific in their wording in writing the Constitution. The ATF is a Government Administrative Bureau, not elected. The ATF isn't empowered to write the laws that litigate fines and punishment or prison time. Does the IRS, FDIC, FDA, CDC, EPA, etc change/write/create laws to put someone in prison? The FBI doesn't even write the laws they are tasked to enforce, Congress does.

[@CombatWombatSTL]

COWARDS who would trade the freedom of everyone for security for themselves DESERVE NEITHER.

[@AlwaysBored123]

On average, there are 10,000 gun homicides a year in America. 300 with rifles, 250 with shotguns, 3000 with "unknown," and the other 6,450 are done with handguns. "Your safety" is NOT why they want to ban rifles so bad.

[@shu281]

Yeah, I don’t know a lot of miseducation here. I heard a quote that said it could alter an assault gun into a machine gun. There’s some misinformation in that.

[@michaelmartin5453]

Next up banning belt loops.

[@zholland93]

"This converts an assault weapon into a machine gun" Oh the amount of stupid in that sentence alone 😂 Assault weapons ARE machine guns. If it is semi auto, it's not an assault weapon. It HAS to have full auto capability to be considered an assault weapon, that is a NECESSARY component to the definition of assault weapon. Also, it has to be chambered in a "battle" caliber, 762x39, 556, 308, etc.

[@cozz124]

no responsible gun owner treats their guns "like a toy"

[@madride858585]

But you can still buy and own a super car. Terrible analogy.

[@Akac3sh]

legalize full auto. all bullets and all guns are killing machines. guns are not the problem people are. any argument against that is ignorant like the idiots who took this from us

[@smh3293]

These should not be illegal

[@jeffsmith9420]

Its like saying the H Bomb was made because people liked seeing a flash and mushroom cloud.

[@cgmason7568]

No, it's really not

[@jmsmilin]

the inventors comments didnt do him any favors, he didn't defend it at all, he just fed the anti gunners and the reporter

[@ultrablue2]

Dear Devin Dwyer: how do you know a bumpstock played a roll in the “deadliest mass shooting”? By that, I take it you are referring to the Las Vegas shooting; have you seen the police report of that? If so, the rest of American would love to know the details of that incident, as those files have not been made available to we, the citizens. If not, you are commenting on hearsay, which makes you a very poor excuse for a newsreader.

[@TroySain]

A heavy-duty rubber band can achieve the same effect. Much cheaper than a bump stock.

[@Habib_Osman]

CAN. With a bumb stock anybody can do it for as long as they want with 0 practice and while drunk. That's not the same.

[@drerod89]

It obviously was designed to make semi auto shoot faster and somewhat autonomously, but by legal definition they were never machine guns, and Trump and the ATF subverting the justice system to ban them with no grandfathering was insane. I never owned a bump stock, and I don't even want one, but you can't make tens of thousands of people felons without passing a law.

[@Gargoyle3438]

What bothers me the most about this is those people at that music festival overreacring to someone just having fun with a bump stock and exercising his 2nd Amendment rights...

[@Bubblyhiccups]

Shall not be infringed! All firearms laws are unconstitutional.

[@robertjohnson2899]

I'm the biggest 2A activist and this pushes the limits of semi automatic weapons this is the biggest grey area we have currently. But the truth is 3% of shootings occur with AR-15 almost everyone killed in America happens with pistols. We have a mental health problem not a gun problem.

[@prst99]

The issue is usage of the law to prevent a crime. I feel law should not prevent crime. Only to define actual crime. Automatic weapons ban is a misuse of the law. We don’t want murders with guns and that is already illegal. We shouldn’t make a law to ban cars because hundreds of crimes a day involve cars.

[@PoormansMachineGun]

Its COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT........only involving firearms!

[@prst99]

The prevention of crimes is only through enforcement and punishment of crimes. A law to prevent a crime just makes innocent behavior illegal.

[@innerlightfilms]

The 2nd amendment is clear. Any law written to restrict firearms in any way, shape, or form, should be deemed unconstitutional.

[@ccul8339]

I put a Luth stock a custom build of mine, it turned it into a way more lethal firearm. I couldn't believe the increased power and rate of fire over the traditional M4 stock. These people are idiots

[@ker4all]

once a loser always a loser, trump followers are ignorant as "F"

[@PS25458]

I'm life long gun owner, no reason to have that, ridiculous

[@PS25458]

@alexblais8076 I'm not for gun control on anything for law abiding citizens, but for that one I'd have to say yes, probably the only thing I'd say yes on for law abiding citizens

[@GOD719]

Ok fudd

[@GOD719]

@@PS25458 Bump stocks came from bump firing. Basically, people using sticks and belt loops. Are you going to band sticks and belt loops?

[@PS25458]

@@GOD719 I just gave my opinion, take it or leave it, go do your belt loop stuff all ya want, I could care less

[@DaveTex2375]

7:52 Would you blame Ford if someone used one of their trucks to mow down innocent victims?

[@tomgosy]

The real catch? You don't need a bump stock to bump fire a gun... but don't tell the ATF that, they'll ban triggers

[@oliverstianhugaas7493]

It's not a machinegun, if i press the trigger fast i have not transitioned my firearm into a machinegun.

[@berserkerok3351]

Societal Interest balancing the 2nd amendment is not allowed.

[@slimtyler1000]

This totally wasn't biased and didn't have an agenda to push.

[@dolij5]

It's not close to automatic.. it's significantly different. As long as we are talking about the "spirit of the law", this administrative ban violates the "spirit" of the second amendment. We need to stop crazy people, not go after the tools they use.

[@derschwarzgeist]

Basically any gun restriction law violates more than just the spirit of the Second Amendment.

[@lenholt7419]

Spirit of the Law? What about Black letter Law? Where is Congress? Why is any Executive Agency allowed to change the meaning of words? The last I checked the ATF does not create law via regulations. The arguments being put forth against Bump Stocks is not sound. For those that missed Civics Class and ABC after school specials. Everyone has to agree or disagree about a Bill that may become Law. Yes Virginia, there is a process to go through. If you don't like a Law you must go through the process to create, modify, or sunset a Law. When that activity occurs civil discourse or not can happen. Activism disguised as lobbying is not news, It's Propaganda. Any lobbying organization purposely going against the Constitution should be held accountable for their actions taken. Some would call that a Felony, I would call it Treasonous. I will take Rule of Law any day over opinionated activism. Jeremiah said it best in his last statement.

[@ChiTownBossFJB]

There are so many wrong terms and definitions in this video. Also, the main reason for the 2nd amendment is to defend against terrorists, foreign and DOMESTIC. Believe me, there is a lot of defending to be done in the near future!

[@crush3095]

as a hunter; it is kind of a dumb toy what kind of accuracy are you going to get with that amount of play? out of polymer? jiggling all over the place, it's just a range toy I think I hate range toys, I live in California, you go to the rifle range, they don't even let you rapid fire, sold all my semis, only have a hunting rifle now

[@cf6552]

Shall not be infringed

[@Danlight1911]

Repeal the NFA and abolish the ATF.

[@alanmeyers3957]

Machine guns should be legal anyway, if you can be trusted with an ar and 30 round magazines, then full auto should be allowed.

[@thomasgilley9015]

Any weapon is an assault weapon when used to assault people 😐 All of the people who push for restriction of the 2A literally no nothing about guns or gun crime.

[@johnleake5657]

"It turns a gun into a killing machine". Isn't a _gun_ a killing machine? Don't you mean "turns a gun into a _mass_ killing machine"?

[@thebudman1980]

Hold the gun loose a certain way and this works without any modified stock. Like from the hip. Your finger just keeps pressing the button due to recoil. My cousins with some of these types of guns demonstrated this when target shooting in the woods. Bump stock vs machine gun. Bump stocks destroy the accuracy. A machine gun has more accuracy when rapidly firing and they fire faster. One bullet at a time is the most accurate.

[@Dr_GraysGhost_420]

Trump banned them? Wow