I've made a number of adapter plates and always find it easier just to drill through the threaded mounting holes in the chuck, then counter bore the face of the chuck so the bolts go through and thread into the plate- makes removing the chuck from the plate faster and eliminates a lot of layout work. BTW- watch a lot of your casting videos and wondering how your knees are holding out- Mine are shot from many years of auto work etc., I would suggest you build a table to do your molds while standing.
@rattansharma2582 Жыл бұрын
Tt
@rille476 жыл бұрын
For a snug fit between chuck and adaptor, let the adaptor plate COOL OF before the test fittings, I was surprised how much the adaptor plate could shrink.
@atothek18047 ай бұрын
Good point that out! Tnx myfordboy for the chuck adapter machining video. Liked a lot your metal casting and lathe machining series 🙂🙂🙂🙂
@Mentorcase6 жыл бұрын
I noticed you programming in four holes on the digital display and I started jumping up and down on my seat remembering the chuck only had 3 holes, then like magic the problem went away, nice trick there myfordboy!
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
No magic was used during the making of the video. With my DRO you program the number of holes you need + 1. The last position takes you back to the start position.
@BedsitBob6 жыл бұрын
Those Allen Screws seemed a bit tight in the holes. Are the holes a whisker out of position?
@stevecarlisle33235 күн бұрын
Sanou brand seems to be reasonable good quality. I am not sure why you would want a four jaw you cannot adjust 🤔🇨🇦
@myfordboy5 күн бұрын
Actulally the chuck is very useful. If you have a 3 jaw and independant 4 jaw one the self cetering one adds to the versitility. Great for holding square stock round, and even hex. 4 jaws give more grip than 3.
@sajaldebnath58042 жыл бұрын
Can I make left handed thread my 16inch chuk backplate actually I need left handed threading because my work piece is run 14rpm clockwise so some time my backplate is little loose so please sir suggest me thanks so much for the topic.
@myfordboy2 жыл бұрын
Not sure I understand. You would have to thread the backplate the same as your spindle thread, if it is threaded.
@gregc15202 жыл бұрын
Since that is a scroll chuck, why didn't you ever check the runout? Not like it is an independent and you can zero it.
@myfordboy2 жыл бұрын
It was checked and it is more acurate than my worn Pratt Burnard 3 jaw.
@biasedzero32956 жыл бұрын
That must be a new carbide cutter, that finish looks fantastic.
@backyardmechanic9216 жыл бұрын
Just bought the same chuck this week, now I have to do the same job.
@zukjeff4 жыл бұрын
you didnt test the runout or skim the face of the chuck. Id mark the backplate and the chuck with an index. good job.
@CatNolara6 жыл бұрын
Very nice, have you measured the runout after installation? Some people keep the step a little loose so they can adjust it if it's neccessary.
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
I figured I could do that but It's actually better than my 3 jaw which is worn. i just chucked a 16mm silver steel bar in this 4 jaw and measured the runout. it is 0.05mm which is exactly what is specified on the description.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc6 жыл бұрын
Nice. Our chuck is stuck on our lathe we are working on getting it loose. We hope to do a future video showing how to make a standard chuck an adjustable chuck. It would work great with your 4 jaw. Steve
@raymondsymonds61036 жыл бұрын
Try using a fire extinguisher(co2) to chill the mandrel while keeping the chuck warmer ! Note that the mass of the chuck will take awhile to warm so use somethine like a hair dryer on the chuck plate ! If no success then blow co2 from the back n chill the mandrel !
@wayned42716 жыл бұрын
Why a four jaw that can't adjust each jaw separately? That lathe looks dangerous if you have to reach over the chuck to stop it.
@frankbritt21726 жыл бұрын
Wayne D yeah i notice that too... He should modify that stoping mechanism
@abdelazizmazari49746 жыл бұрын
4x4 skoda
@abdelazizmazari49746 жыл бұрын
Kodiak skoda4x4
@jarwik6 жыл бұрын
Congratulations .. you can,t fit very little parts, because the center hole is wide advantage use two remaining compressors to disassemble the two compressors to a rectangular piece you can open big holes :)
@evugar6 жыл бұрын
It's moved on you at 9:27
@canamflaco5 жыл бұрын
Hi. Want to upgrade mu chock ( got s use mill lathe that come with. Inside jaw only) so I can only work 2" or less. 4" chock ... So here my. Cuestion. What's the correct way to measure the spindle size and the tread to. Buy s correct faceplate for my. Lathe? The tread its 1 5/8 wide its it an standar size?
@myfordboy5 жыл бұрын
You would normally use a thread gauge to determine the tpi and thread form. See if you can find your lathe here it will probably tell you. lathes.co.uk
@canamflaco5 жыл бұрын
@@myfordboy thx
@peterslade73044 жыл бұрын
I have seen some people using a thin soft washer between the backplate and spindle faces. Do you think it is better than face to face.
@myfordboy4 жыл бұрын
I would have thought metal contact would be better.
@Darren_Barclay2 жыл бұрын
Nice mill, cannot wait to get one, is there one you’d advice for a novice? Have you got that in your wee shed or elsewhere!
@myfordboy2 жыл бұрын
I realy only have experience with my own mill. It's at least 50 years old now. You would probably have to go for a Chinese one if you want to buy new.
@Darren_Barclay2 жыл бұрын
@@myfordboy yeah I have been looking at older ones but my problem is space, one of the Chinese ones are probably the way forward, maybe a sieg or warco, I like the warco wm 14 or 16, they are compact and pretty capable by the specs, only problem is they seem to never have stock, So keeping my eye out. Is a belt driven mill better than a gear driven? What’s the best?
@myfordboy2 жыл бұрын
@@Darren_Barclay I belive belt drive is prefered as it is quieter. I have read of of owners modifing their gear drive ones to belt drive.
@thomasstewart24704 жыл бұрын
B
@rbalderson55686 жыл бұрын
Did I miss the undercut at the internal corner of the spigot? For the poster who thought that one should leave the sipot loose - a loose spigot is a waste of machining. It is what supports the otherwise heavy loadings on the retaining bolts as well as centering the chuck.
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
The chuck had a chamfer on the outside of the locating bore so no undercut was needed.
@TheRCHyper5 жыл бұрын
Grüße aus Deutschland, vielen Dank für die super tollen Videos.
@sayedhsssan43434 жыл бұрын
Tm🖒💚💚💚
@jcustomdiy36616 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@mickcarson85044 жыл бұрын
Nice chuck. 😉👍 Also, tell me, myfordboy, is the reader you have there used to control the auto feeders or used just to track the X and Y positions?
@myfordboy4 жыл бұрын
It's a manual mill, no CNC. Display shows position of the bed instead of using the handwheel graduations.
@mickcarson85044 жыл бұрын
@@myfordboy I understand what you mean. You're setting positions with the DRO which I believe is more precise than the readings on the hand wheels. Right? I wanted to buy a DRO but wasn't sure how to use it. I've asked a few, but they stay tight lipped 😶 about it, as if it's gold being discovered. 🙄
@myfordboy4 жыл бұрын
@@mickcarson8504 I have since replaced the display with this one ban.ggood.vip/V9Ec video here kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGeahJuXp9uWlck recommended if you are looking for one.
@mickcarson85044 жыл бұрын
@@myfordboy Hey, thanks for the suggestion and video (the one with the wobbly pointer LOL) but, is it What it does on screen. If so, it's great. However, it's only AU$144., whereas on eBay they sell them for 350-400+ AUD, a real rip off. Do you think this nice DRO will be okay for my new Sieg SX2LF mill machine (Google it)? If so, what make and model is the DRO please? Thanks. Also, from what I see on your video (the video with the wobbling pointer) I see some nice settings that you have done to drill multiple holes and slots on that sheet. Does that mean you have auto feeders connected to the DRO, or is that all manually done? I find these whole videos of yours very interesting, Paul. Er, sorry, is your name Paul? I am a bit mixed up 🙄
@myfordboy4 жыл бұрын
To drill the holes for example you program the DRO with the number, spacing and angle. Drill hole 1, then select hole 2 on the DRO and you move the table manually until the display reads zero, then drill hole 2 and so on. This suitable for any milling machine or lathe. You buy the scales separately according to the length required. Not called Paul!
@ianrenshaw66536 жыл бұрын
Hi David. I have an ml10 like yours. Can you tell me what oil cup you’re using on the front bearing? Mine is much smaller and the oil runs out the front after using the lathe for a bit. It does not run out when the lathe is not in use however. Is this normal?
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
The oil cups are the ones that came with the lathe. They will drain if there is oil in them and the lathe is not used for a while. Do you mean oil runs out from the bearing in use? That's fine, I have an O ring pushed over the front of the spindle and it stops it fling about.
@ianrenshaw66536 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! I’ll try an o-ring in the front.
@gvet475 жыл бұрын
What good is a self centering 4 jaw? Better to be independent to hold odd shapes or center round to higher degree.
@myfordboy5 жыл бұрын
There is a place for both types. self centering can quickly hold square, round and hex and hold rectangular shapes for drilling in the centre. Also 4 jaws give a better grip than 3.
@firstmkb3 жыл бұрын
myfordboy I was wondering too, thanks.
@JShel146 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing! Can I ask what is the thread count/diameter of your spindle?
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
My lathe spindle has a 1.125 dia 8tpi thread. I bought a backplate with this thread already machined.
@misfitsailor6 жыл бұрын
A real luxury!
@EDZTHELENTATTOOMACHINES6 жыл бұрын
hi there myfordboy hope you dont mind me asking .what type of insert and rpm are you using ?
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
840rpm and the tip is a Sumutomo with a 0.2mm radius tip.
@EDZTHELENTATTOOMACHINES6 жыл бұрын
thank you
@Daledavispratt6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done!
@caskwith6 жыл бұрын
Is that a steel backplate? If so where did you get it? I hate machining cast iron plates.
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
I believe it's stainless steel. It came from Chronos ltd.
@caskwith6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply, they must have changed their supplier since I last bought one from them.
@journeysjoe56356 жыл бұрын
you have crazy skills
@daveanderson23166 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos, keep up the good work!
@billmaguire62166 жыл бұрын
I was curious as to whether you took the chuck apart to see if there was any schmoo left inside from manufacturing? I enjoy your channel.
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
No I just used it as it was. I am pleased with the chuck and it stays on the lathe in preference to my 3 jaw.
@billmaguire62166 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Teunbaartman16 жыл бұрын
I was wondering. What is the run out of this chuck right from the box?
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
It's actually better than my 3 jaw which is worn. i just chucked a 16mm silver steel bar in this 4 jaw and measured the runout. it is 0.05mm which is exactly what is specified on the description.
@Teunbaartman16 жыл бұрын
0.05 is quit OK for a scroll chuck
@MrLukealbanese6 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@jasonburns14076 жыл бұрын
Did you get the backplate from banggood?Is it good for the backgear teeth to undo your chuck?Iknow thats the easy way to do it.
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
The backplate came from a model engineer supplier. You can buy pre threaded ones for most popular lathes. I did not have backgear engaged, I rarely use the backgear.
@brianwarburton44826 жыл бұрын
The backplate looked like steel. Are some of them cast iron? Which is best?
@jasonburns14076 жыл бұрын
When you took off the chuck from the lathe I thought you had it in back gear so you could unscrew it
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
The way the backplate machined makes me think it's stainless steel. I cant see it makes much difference whether it's steel or iron. I know that some unmachined iron ones cost the same as the pre threaded steel ones.
@Мастер7разряда6 жыл бұрын
Как он в работе?
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
I am very pleased with the chuck.
@Мастер7разряда6 жыл бұрын
Спасибо. Может я и себе такой закажу.
@satxsatxsatx6 жыл бұрын
Steve Jordan is also satisfied with Sanou chuck
@XXCoder6 жыл бұрын
Did I see backplace move on second center drill? Yep... It was ok though apparently. Why not get a stub drill so length is much shorter? Or maybe use lathe to make one out of regular length drill? I know drill is made from harder material but is it possible?
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
XXCoder If it moved it would be because I forgot to lock the table. One advantage of videoing your work is you can look back and see where you went wrong.
@XXCoder6 жыл бұрын
What about making your own stub drill though?
@HomeDistiller6 жыл бұрын
yeah i saw it tip in the chuck on most of the holes on both the mill and the drill press.. was it being held on the taper in the 3 jaw chuck?
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
Not held on the taper but on the round part of the adaptor. looks like i got away with it this time.
@corwinweber6936 жыл бұрын
How the hell do you EYEBALL three thousandths of an inch?!?!?!?!?!?
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
You measure it with a dial indicator.
@corwinweber6936 жыл бұрын
Oh. Ok then. :) Seriously though. You have to admit that from the video it looks like you're looking at the number, saying 'Eh, it'll work' and just bumping it and getting the right amount. :D
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
If the work is say 0.003" oversize the hand wheel is turned 1 1/2 divisions which advances the tool 0.0015 and removes 0.003"
@lensman57625 жыл бұрын
@@myfordboy Makes you wonder if they ever worked on a lathe?
@jabadespite69645 жыл бұрын
ааааажж слюни текут!
@clebersantosfarias79845 жыл бұрын
Vc comprou aonde esse mandril
@myfordboy5 жыл бұрын
Backplate came from Chronos
@apiaristicone95856 жыл бұрын
...would that fit on my speed 10?
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
Yes it would, it fits my ML10.
@apiaristicone95856 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@josephinring6 жыл бұрын
Did you initially set the DRO to a 4 hole circle by mistake and change it to 3 off camera?
@FredMiller6 жыл бұрын
I saw that too! I was yelling at the screen for him to catch his possible mistake before spotted his second hole(point of no return) LOL I have learned SO much from him over the years....
@myfordboy6 жыл бұрын
With my DRO you program the number of holes you need + 1. The last position takes you back to the start position.
@josephinring6 жыл бұрын
Oh oh, a little bit confusing. Great video, Thanks.
@screwpull16 жыл бұрын
Or you could program it for 3 holes with the start angle at zero and the end angle at 240 degrees. Although I use the same method as you. It takes all the math out of it. 😉
@АлексейАбрамов-у6ю6 жыл бұрын
Как всегда великолепно
@02os6 жыл бұрын
Алексей Абрамов Верно, особенно мне понравились кадры с выбором координат при разметке отверстий!
@АлексейАбрамов-у6ю6 жыл бұрын
высший пилотаж))
@nordbaracuda6 жыл бұрын
Алексей, а в чем пилотаж по электронным линейкам координаты выставить? Пилотаж это циркулем разметить с первого раза и попасть.
@АлексейАбрамов-у6ю6 жыл бұрын
я вот не умею электроникой пользоваться, поэтому меня это и восхищает, ожидал увидеть разметку обычным способом круговую риску и кернение через 120 градусов, не знаю зачем вам циркуль
@nordbaracuda6 жыл бұрын
Алексей, бонжур. Какую круговую риску? Можно по 120 гр отложить, если есть делительная головка. Если ее нет, то транспортиром градусы не выставить. Поэтому условно берут окружность, равную диаметру посадки шпилек, внутри ее строят равнобедренный треугольник (квадрат), и считают длину между вершинами фигуры. Отбив одну точку на круге, чертят искомые две, или три для квадрата в местах пересечения линий. По электронным линейкам все просто, точность до сотки, электронщиком быть не надо. Но цена девайса для большинства из нас великовата, и стремиться иногда к соимости самого станка.
@giusepperisini56202 жыл бұрын
Pessimo prodotto, comprato 2 mandrini, uno più storto dell'altro, roba cinese, si sapeva!