Machinist's Minute: Lathe safety

Be safe!

[@JimDean002]

There is no substitute for that 10-second look around before you hit the button

[@notworthit1096]

And even then you sometimes miss shit.

[@efreeze287]

Giving it a spin by hand is also a good idea if possible

[@Texn33]

@@efreeze287 I always did this. It also allows one to check swing clearance.

[@ubcts]

No chuck key, no long sleeves, no gloves. 45 years

[@MatthewK863]

I was flipping through and hadn't even watched the video yet. My eyes locked onto that dogbone in about 1.2 seconds flat. Then I watched the video and realized he was doing safety video but my brain was screaming the entire time before he took it out.

[@fjcruiser289]

@@MatthewK863 Well this guy is wrong......40 years cutting steel 10 years HSE Never wear gloves !!!!!!!!!! clean the casting man..

[@thunderthormx]

I wear long sleeves everyday it's cold in our shop. Just don't be dumb

[@jb76489]

I guess if thinking before acting is difficult for you, this is an ok alternative

[@crf80fdarkdays]

​@@fjcruiser289 was told to use gloves for a bench grinder once, got a bit too close because I generally go by feel and the glove bit in and chipped the stone, nearly started dragging my finger in but my quick reflexes were enough to brake friction. Never used gloves on one after that and I have had them nip me, the thing is it just takes skin off instead of dragging it through I. Grinders are a different story though, I've had gloves save me a bit from fresh grinding disks them edges are nasty when they are fresh and will cut like a 1mm

[@justme8340]

Don’t get OWEES at Howee’s!

[@KikoValleyMan]

😂

[@KingfishStevens-di9ji]

Don't listen to this clown with long sleeves

[@jakehanneman6956]

Beat me to it 😂

[@whirltech8031]

Visited a US Forest Service Smokejumper base once. Hanging in the gear room was a big orange sign: "STUPID HURTS"

[@davered27]

Muscle memory adds a level of protection, never leave a key in… and look around…

[@Ben-kt5rc]

Always better to have to make multiple mistakes before something bad happens! If you always take the key out and always check then you'll catch the time you make a mistake

[@willl7780]

100% agree

[@scudzuki]

Make sure you don't put tools on machine ways. Not a safety issue but a good practice in my 4 plus decades of experience.

[@angrydragonslayer]

The way i do it is thin-ish rubber gloves They protect you from that extra beryllium, cadmium or chromium some jackass decided was necessary but they don't have enough durability to pull you into the machine if they get caught

[@headcheesefry]

I had latex gloves get me once. I was drilling crud out of the tubes in a star cooler with low head room, so I had to use a bunch of extensions for each tube. We had to wear sealed chemical suits with forced air respirators, our boots and doubled up gloves sealed with duct tape. One man running the drill, the other adding and removing extensions. In hindsight I should have had cotton or leather gloves on over the latex ones. Anyways, you're right about it ripping off, but it wound my fingers up backward first. Hurt for a couple years but I fully recovered. Of course I finished the job and never reported it.

[@kristianskov4841]

I've recently had a very bad experience wearing gloves while working with a drill press. Glove got caught in the chuck or the shavings, pulled my hand in, twisted my index-, middle- and ring finger out of socket, bending them the wrong way round. Luckily the glove ripped before the fingers... It was mid-January, and I'm still feeling the aftermath. Can't fully make a fist yet, but I can still count to 10.....

[@jmills287]

The best thing I ever heard was "this machine doesn't care about you or your feelings"

[@Rough_cut613]

My first shop prof used to tell us "You may think you're hard but you're the softest thing in the shop"

[@tyrel7185]

Where I come from you get kicked in the nuts by everybody in the shop including the supervisor, boss and ladies up in the office if you leave that chuck key in!

[@KingfishStevens-di9ji]

The hand never leaves the chuck key while in use

[@andrewb2475]

Great point, this clown obviously isn't worried about other people's safety

[@krislink1761]

I always wear gloves. I don't care what the company policy is. I also don't stick my fingers near the moving bits and have never had a problem

[@TomJachimstal]

Yet

[@shawnhorvath2014]

We always wear thin nitrile coated gloves in our shop. Not a policy thing or anything, just our choice. No issues what so ever other than not getting annoying metal slivers stuck in your hands etc.

[@jjrobiso]

Safety said “no gloves, ever”. Journeyman says, “gloves when you need them”

[@markvanderknoop131]

Or turn the mashine on with the key. A little adjustment on the switch panel.

[@qballew]

I'm definitely of the No gloves around rotating equipment crew... from a way too close incident in my younger days using Emory cloth to clean up a shaft spinning in a lathe. Ripped my Mechanix style glove completely off of my left hand, pulled me within a hair of the rotating chuck, close enough to grab my shirt pocket (complete with notepad) and rip off half of my work shirt and exploding the notepad. Chuck teeth took chunks out of my arm, twisted and broke one finger, but could have been SO much worse. My kids still refer to the Chuck marks scars as my "shark bite" as that it what it looks like. I do like the idea of using nitrile style gloves if anything... but definitely not anything more robust or bulky.

[@chrisschultz6541]

Ouchies are in fact bad.

[@oradros]

I forgot the chuck key once at school it would have hit the guy behind me but luckily he was sick that day. Now they all have spring chuck key.

[@jameshathaway5117]

I agree with taking a good look over everything before turning on a machine but I once saw a dead man's switch modified to use a chuck key to engage the switch. I thought even as an extra stage of precaution it was a pretty good idea. The machine won't start till the chuck key was out of the chuck and tucked into its home.

[@StuntPosse]

Yes, but some nit would probably find a way to defeat the safety function, because he thought he was smart. I remember a bunch of OSHA mandated covers and stuff that made a Bridgeport impossible to make parts on. The belt/pulley access hatch was one of them. They also had a plexiglass surround for the cutter...never saw a way to make chips with that nonsense in place.

[@LKLK343]

I was standing right next to a Guy that suddenly started screaming. Noticed he was wearing Gloves at a pillar drilling machine. E stop stopped the machine but his thumb was ripped. Couldn't believe that's possible - i was an apprentice at that time. I took that lesson and never forgot the picture.

[@shawnhorvath2014]

Ouch.. how bad was it? Like ripped right off kinda deal?

[@LKLK343]

@@shawnhorvath2014 The finger was not completely detached but hanging loose - hold by the skin. There was some bleeding so after removing the glove his hand was wrapped quickly. The guy was from a different company - didn't see him after the ambulance got him.

[@shawnhorvath2014]

@@LKLK343 ouch that's rough!!

[@russellanderson3901]

Wear gloves for handling materials but not while running the lathe for me.

[@everettplummer9725]

We all wore nitrile gloves on the CNC machines, because of the coolant. When you hear a spindle turning a few thousand rpms, with pieces of nitrile flapping around, you remember that sound.

[@KJ-xt3yu]

the sign of a good machinest, 10 fingers, 10 toes, still alive and teaching safety first 🎉

[@willqzada2226]

That key!!!! 😂😂😂

[@grimmj0ker]

Fired immediately . 🤨

[@KingfishStevens-di9ji]

Yep leaves key in Chuck wears long sleeves. Apparently OSHA has never stopped by and he hasn't been sued by an employee yet.

[@shawnhorvath2014]

​@steveleingang440 Yeah, my boss reemed me out once for that. All I did was turn around 180 to grab my little cheater pipe to snug up the big ass sprocket I had chucked up, and he lost it😅. I even had the lathe out of gear and turned off. Never did that again😅😂

[@shawnhorvath2014]

​@KingfishStevens-di9ji I work in a union shop. And we are required to wear coveralls. Why wouldn't you want your arms, etc, covered anyway? Just don't be dumb and pay attention lol.

[@KingfishStevens-di9ji]

@@shawnhorvath2014 ''I work in a union shop''. LOL

[@phillipware9681]

Took hand off chuck wrench. As a machine shop instructor myself, I would deduct at least 15 points front score. In my Navy training as a machinist if you took your hand off the wrench while in lathe you wore a special chuck wrench with a logging chain welded to it so you could wear it the rest of the day!

[@everettplummer9725]

My neighbor wore his wedding band and gloves. Had a stack on the drill press, had a wrench on the hold down nut and he left the drill motor running. He slipped off and the glove ripped off of his hand, except for his ring finger. Pulled tendons and the metacarpal too. Doctor divided his hand and closed them together. Told him it would be more useful that way.

[@stefannico]

Our chuck key was spring loaded. It couldn't stay on the chuck, it had to be pressed down to insert and would come loose if you let go of the pressure.

[@trailblazer632]

Use your head 😂 dude people dont have those anymore

[@13jtyler]

Just seeing that chuck key stuck in chuck reminded me of college when a student left one in a chuck got complacent and launched it tru a steel roll up door

[@phillhuddleston9445]

I can see why the chuck key rule went into effect, it's not about smart, responsible people it's about the idiots that work in the shop! The rules were developed are for the stupidest people in the shop not the smartest ones but if they see you breaking them they will do it too and that's when the chuck key goes flying across the shop!

[@hasinoltabar1925]

a tip for guys who use lathe as a hobby. if you put a spring at the end part of the chuck key you will never ever forget it in. the spring will push it out

[@jaxithfox]

This is why disposable gloves are best for shop work. Gives you chemical and minor abrasion protection but they wont drag your hand into something.

[@OB1canblowme]

We had quite the good solution in vocational school for the chuck key: An arm fabricated from steel pipe and a piece of plate that was bolted into the frame under the headstock and with a holder for the chuck key that was at about waist level. The holder had a splash-proofed enclosure with a 24V limit switch in it that turned on the contactor or the motor protection breaker for the spindle motor. You couldn't make the spinde start without the chuck key being in the holder and once you needed the key after machining you always knew where it was. The arm was never in the way when i worked with the lathes and i never experienced any situation where i needed to power on the spindle with the key not in the holder.

[@mosinnagant76]

An Engineered solution is often the best solution. Humans become complacent. You look at the machine and never throw a chuck key until you do.

[@danieloberg7652]

The only way to have it

[@Rough_cut613]

That's smart, I like it. I guess you have to see a young guy missing half a row of teeth with his top lip hanging off to think maybe just teach your guys that the chuck key never leaves your hand.

[@bdgackle]

Chuck key gets left in chuck. Someone bumps switch to on position. Someone comes by later, notices key, places in holder... Lathe starts unexpectedly. Oops. Complication always adds failure modes. Engineered solutions aren't bad but they do trigger a need for another analysis.

[@Rough_cut613]

@@bdgackle have you worked on a lathe? If you turned it on w the key out of position and inserted it after the fact the lathe would not engage. Not if it was built in the last 40-50 years.

[@Demonlord468]

I've always been told, "How do you work in a machine shop with long hair down to your ass?" Well considering how long ive had long hair it's pretty obvious I take that into consideration with all my machining work. Hell i'm more afraid of my hair getting caught in drill presses running for champhering or grinders than Mills and Lathes. My number rule of thumb for me in my case is NEVER turn your back on a running machine...

[@alexfraser2508]

Or get a haircut and turn your back as much as you want 😎

[@md4luckycharms]

I wear like 5-7-9 mil nitrile gloves at work, doesn't do much when you snag a chip and they shear clean off if something grabs them but they keep your hands clean and mostly sliver free

[@shawnhorvath2014]

Exactly! Same with us in our shop.

[@backho12]

Gloves, rings, and neckties are a no no around machine tools!

[@KingfishStevens-di9ji]

Sleeves too

[@NP-zl7dz]

The owies do be bad

[@jamesconnors5653]

No gloves. Mindful of the chuck key- always.

[@lowtech81]

Seen it done, it will pull you around until its just a red mess left

[@AffordBindEquipment]

There is no substitute for paying attention. There are no accidents, just stupid carelessness. And if you wear a tie, make sure it's tucked in.

[@benjurqunov]

I wear gloves as needed. Take them off when I don't.

[@richardzicarelli3193]

I work with students, not professionals.... NO GLOVES and NEVER leave a chuck key in the chuck!... by the way, as a professional, I never wear gloves on a lathe or any machine that can catch a glove. Ask my student that lost two fingers on his right hand because he had a glove on running a knee mill.

[@171apples171]

I kicked one on at 265RPM with the chuck key in it yesterday. Flung it straight at the floor. I just stood there feeling like a moron, literally said outloud "I really just fkn did that."

[@andrewl2787]

College? You mean trade school? Machine operators usually don’t have 4 year university stem degrees

[@IsaiahMalin]

It all comes down to common sense, and not becoming complacent. People go awhile not getting injured, and they loose that healthy fear of cold, unfeeling machines that will eat you alive. I don't even think about that on/off switch until I've gone over, with eyes and fingers, everything im about to be working with. Great video.

[@joblessalex]

There's no substitute for using a low HP machine and fucking up a few times first. Throw a chuck key a couple times or accidentally bump the switch with your hand in the way and you won't do that again on bigger machines

[@BlackEpyon]

Could wear disposable rubber gloves. keeps the chemicals and chips off of your hands, and if it gets caught, it just tears off.

[@GNARWHAL720]

As a butcher, same thing with your chainmail gloves and a bone saw, NOT A GOOD COMBO 😂 rip ya fkn limbs off in a split second

[@marksmith3991]

100% you could even further specify a fitted glove

[@HandicapRacer]

Keep the key out of the chuck unless you're using it....

[@markbroad119]

I've done sheet metal for 20yrs now. One company said "100% gloves, all the time" well anyone who has ever used a power roll former knows DO NOT WEAR GLOVES. Well the safety guy saw a man not wearing gloves at the machine and instructed him to dawn gloves. Well....... It pulled his hand on and turned it to powder bones up to this 3rd knuckle.

[@bobbycheshire4033]

The way i was taught was thinking that the chuck key should be respected and part of your hand Take your hand away from the chuck the key ALWAYS comes with !!

[@Pathfinderxr]

😊 just take the danger away to begin with. People forget to do checks.. take the risk away at the earliest opportunity.... first time ive ever disagreed with this channel 😮😢

[@laksivrak2203]

I’m definitely from the no glove school, that is what my teachers instilled in my head, not just on the lathe but the grinding wheels also!

[@squirrelrobotics]

As far as the chuck key goes... Isn't it worth it to have standard practice be to take it out when you're done, but still having that inspect before you turn the mschine on? It both fixes that possible hazard at the source and also has a sort of redundancy since the person that may use that lathe next will also check for the chuck key.

[@stevenpederson1645]

No gloves if the machine is on, loading or unloading parts is okay-ish, but I don't wear gloves around machines.

[@tonyanderson-ln9gl]

Every shop I've worked in, if you took your hand off a lathe chuck key while it was in the chuck, you loaded up your box and found another job. Except Navy shops, where you got an opportunity to attempt to justify your carelessness to the commanding officer, at Captain's Mast. Gloves? Ok while cleaning, handling materials and tools. While machining? Oh, hell no!

[@charmio]

Ngl, I've had the chuck key go flying 😅. Happened at home after a few beers, turns out you shouldn't drink and machine.

[@lastyfirst3788]

They also say to not remove the springs for Chuck key. Unless you like dodging projectiles

[@ObservationofLimits]

When I worked at a foundry, many stainless parts had to get cutoff the sprue using a giant Norton 30" cutoff wheel driven with a 3HP on a hydraulic actuator. Sometimes it grabs the sprue and the fiddly bits grab your sleeve or glove. Talk about pants shitting. But BUT if you DO IT RIGHT there is basically zero opportunity for you to actually get hurt. Don't be like that guy who puts his hand on top, between the mold and the wheel. Be like the guy with 10 fingers and put the mold between your hand and the wheel.

[@lommerdpassievrucht8555]

Use gloves when touching and inserting the workpiece in te chuck. Take them off when operating the lathe. Best of both worlds

[@christopher.t.johnson5489]

Never wear gloves. Never wear a tie. Never leave the chuck key in the chuck. Don’t wear a ring on your finger. Or a wear a watch or bracelet or anything around your neck.

[@MoistTowelettes-rg1il]

I remove the chuck key and check the machine before powering on lathes i dont play around lathes

[@dgs0011]

Jesus the chuck key was giving me major anxiety

[@richardoakley8800]

We put an ignition key on the lathe..the key was attached to the chuck key ..a pain..yes.. but I've seen someone with chuck key in their head

[@thebassassin5507]

Wear gloves when loading and unloading. Don’t wear gloves when the machine is on or about to be on. Easy shit.

[@freethinker4991]

When I did my apprenticeship I got my ass kicked if I left the chuck key in the chuck.

[@bluefalconssuck5881]

Gloves come off before the machine starts. Glove go back on when all the parts stop moving... Gloves are just "another tool" to be used when appropriate.

[@bret_Lambky]

Chuck keys are loose clothing will get you every time! I agree to wear gloves when loading and unloading parts! Sharp edges will lance you wide open! Ouch!

[@pourattitude4206]

Having a keen sense of self-preservation, I kept gloves nearby to use when handling chips. At no time doing this while the lathes were running. Long chips sometimes (oftentimes) get caught up when you're trying to remove them. This scenario gets ugly quick when you consider what a tangle of razor sharp ribbons will do to you. If pliers or a stick or something won't allow you to keep chips from building too fast, then at least just use a shop rag for God's sake. When it gets caught up you just let it go.

[@norwegiangadgetman]

The 'no gloves' rule desperately needs to be revised. Black Nitrile gloves will protect you from oils and nasty chemicals, but will tear easily if they get hung up on anything.

[@joshuabrown1309]

Oh you mean you have use common sense. 😮 mind blowing. Lol! When people do dumb things and they start making up rules

[@JMAN2002]

Wear loose fitting gloves . I worked in a reman plant making fingerjoists . Machinery will grab your glove giving you a split second more to pull your hand away leaving the in the machinery

[@4Gehe2]

I know a machinist who almost haa almost lost their hand because not using gloves. They constantly got cut and such, and they got infected because of dirty parts, foul coolant reserves, and generally average dirty machineshop environment. I think they have had sepsis like twice. You can't make make them wear gloves even if you force them, theyll quit and change jobs to some other desperate small shop. We ain't from USA. So don't try to reference your legal framework or healthcare on to them. When they get infection its, either workplace insurance or public healthcare which rushes in to treat them for few € total cost to them.

[@mosinnagant76]

I would never rely on a human to visually inspect something as the only means to ensure a critical task is being done correctly. It shall be part of the process but an Engineered solution is also needed. A chuck key spindle interlock would prevent a chuck key from EVER being left in a chuck. It's an easy solution to implement and does not detract from "getting the job done". Similar to a kirk key interlock method for electrical switchgear. Safety does not have to be cumbersome and can oftentimes support a more efficient process when done correctly.

[@keldinks]

Okay, Ive only been around the big shiny thing in the sky less than 40 times. Only been working under the shiny thing in the sky for around 18-20 of those trips. Lathes have been around with this issue long before. Why havent they designed it so that you have to put the chuck key in a holder that is also a sort of deadman switch. Lathe no go unless chuck key is home???? Asking for a friend

[@frankperrotte4379]

I don't know how many times i've accidentally left the Chuck key in turn the machine.On I had to go flying right by my head

[@danielriccobono699]

Im 100% no gloves, my old boss was missing part of his finger from wearing gloves when he shouldnt

[@sidshepherd5700]

Use leather gloves for cleaning and nitrile 8mil while operating.

[@phalanyx3478]

I take the chuck key out if I walk away from the lathe for more than 3 seconds. I wear heavier disposable gloves because if I dont get part of me mangled, I will certainly develop some illness working with all the chemicals. Also I hate getting sliced up by chips and burrs.

[@caldert4248]

Thin rubber gloves will tear, so they are great if you need gloves for chemicals

[@natereinhold6180]

I like your way. Making rules to keep people safe makes people lazy and complacent and they forget common sense safety. Same thing with left on green arrow only. Now people see a green arrow and turn left without even looking because "they had the light". Lady killed her family turning left because she had the green arrow by not even looking ahead to see the dump truck that missed the light and turned anyway.

[@TheTsunamijuan]

I just feel like you have a extremely skilled, and down to earth shop. It seems to be a great environment/attitude, and stuff just gets done. Despite all the additional Alaska challenges.

[@bennichols1113]

I have worked with wood chippers. Gloves are a no for me. Skin rips but it grows back. Gloves wont rip and going through a chipper is not a growing experience

[@buildingracingvideos4714]

I can't do gloves. I like to feel what I'm holding, not feel what my gloves are holding. I weld with only one glove also.

[@josephmorse4318]

Thin nitrile gloves break away when getting snagged.

[@neilattaway2182]

You are relying on the great god common sense...... don't you know it is forbidden to teach common sense. Sadly, the fact that you are correct on every aspect does not necessarily mean you can win the argument. But still, you get my vote . 😅

[@albratgaming2348]

its a Machine that when turned on will kill you without a second of thought. You are the safety device. Never trust that the machine is safe. I went to college with a guy who had already lost the end of his little finger in the chuck of a lathe at work. Placed his hand on the chuck to turn it, tip of finger curled into the chuck key hole and got leverage... But the handle was not in full off position and the safety guard switch was not working properly... When he turned the chuck... the motor spun the chuck just a little torque and pop goes the finger joint then plop the tip dropped into the bottom of the lathe. He learnt a painful lesson. It was a split second of saving time. but cost him and his employer a lot. 10 seconds of checks, saves many hours of safety inspections and investigations.

[@shanecollins4902]

I only wear gloves loading the machine or on heavy cuts to keep hot chips off my hands when reaching for the controls. Any time I’m interacting with the part be it filing, sanding ect sleeves go up gloves come off. Some owies can be your last…

[@andynichols3464]

Mini-series "Howie's Owies"

[@tyrel7185]

❤😂

[@bt9653]

I had a leather glove snapped off my right hand when polishing. Never saw it and it completely tore every stitch if thread out and it was in two pieces when I found it. I can’t believe I have my fingers completely intact with no soreness or cuts. I had an employee lose a finger on a horizontal bandsaw. Reached under the blade for some reason glove got hooked and he pulled back and the blade sawed thru the finger.

[@dannyvanstraelen3273]

more accidents happen with gloves during machining than without. gloves are good when you work in the garden or in construction etc.

[@creator1089]

I was in precision machine technology in high school. And there was this kid who fired up the lady. For didn't take the Chucky out. Anetchki launched all the way up to top of the shop ceiling and punched a hole. Right through the roof

[@bekesir12]

Don't wear gloves and be careful, make sure that fucking key is not in there.

[@willl7780]

machinist for 15 years .started driving flatbed and could not be more happy...better pay no stress home every weekend company doesnt care when i want a few extra days off

[@louiel8711]

Sharp parts cut gloves, once its loaded they come off thin blue nitrile gloves when it's running. Chuck keys aren't an issue for me being left handed still make sure it's out before i start the spindle.

[@robertschemonia5617]

I have stickers at work that I have put on machines that are used to process scrap metal, they are called alligator shears, that say "This machine has no brain. Use yours." And I tell all the new guys to always always remember, that they are the softest thing on the property. Everything here can kill you, and it *will* hurt the entire time.

[@jeremylunning654]

Never wear gloves. It doesn't take long for a string of chips to teach out and grab you. I've had a Chuck key fly past my head from someone else. I don't have enough faith in other people to trust them leaving a chuck key in.

[@brettcox7941]

Just seeing that key in the chuck made me uncomfortable.

[@Tyler45832]

I'd be lying if I said I hadnt accidentally launched a chuck key by hitting start without looking 😅 listen to this man

[@simonjahr2770]

You know you can just get a chuckguard so you cant even turn on the Machiene when you left the Chuckkey inside

[@dahabsemitdiemutterfutter2735]

I weldes a litle spring on my Chuck key So it jumps out if you don't press down on it.