Macintosh Plus black screen repair

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Adrian's Digital Basement

Adrian's Digital Basement

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@smcic
@smcic Жыл бұрын
My dad bought me a Mac plus in 1987 to bring to college - I used it until about 1990 and then put it in a box until last year. I recapped it and it works as good as new, even the apple HD20 works and I now have all of my college papers! It was a blast to read them. I also have some stuff I downloaded from bbs’s. Man those were the days, when only nerds and techies were online…
@TimPerfetto
@TimPerfetto Жыл бұрын
I used my dad in 1987 until about 1990 and put him in a box until last year. Man those were the days.
@minty_Joe
@minty_Joe Жыл бұрын
You're lucky the HD20 still worked. Between stiction and failed caps, I would've been surprised if it even fired right up. The Mac Plus, more so, with some minor repairs (cold solder joints, caps, etc.).
@squirlmy
@squirlmy Жыл бұрын
​@@TimPerfetto I bet it was a blast to unbox him! Or, it would at least be memorable.😮 😂
@TimPerfetto
@TimPerfetto Жыл бұрын
Yeah but I'm older than him now so its been difficult
@GymChess
@GymChess Жыл бұрын
@@TimPerfetto Lol you used your dad?
@turmel3689
@turmel3689 Жыл бұрын
Week 3 of watching your content with absolutely no need to repair anything old tech. Nor having Any background in tech. But enjoying non the less
@kefkafloyd
@kefkafloyd Жыл бұрын
FYI, the Mac Plus does not supply termination power on the SCSI bus. It can be modded in with a diode (that might make for a good follow up video), but most haven't had this mod done. Any device like a BlueSCSI that draws power from termination power won't work unless you supply external power (as you've shown). Even then, sometimes the external power for the device might not be adequate for proper termination load for the bus depending on the device, its termination resistors, and the cable length. I'm not sure how well the SCSI2SD supplies term power. The Zip drive can also be sensitive to termination power level when it's the only device on the bus as its notorious for weak termination. I've used DB25 BlueSCSIs with external power when attached to the DB25 port, but as soon as any kind of cable length is introduced it starts having issues. I bet if you plugged in a real external disk enclosure (with an actual SCSI HD inside) and then plugged the SCSI2SD in as a terminated device everything would work fine. That's because most hard drives of that era will supply termination power. Or an external CD-ROM/SyQuest/Jaz/whatever.
@TachiTekmo
@TachiTekmo Жыл бұрын
I believe that Zip drives have weak termination voltage. That drive mechanism, while revolutionary in the mid-Nineties, ate up damn near all of the 2000 mA the OEM power supply could output. They also started to droop in voltage with age. Instead of 5.0 ± 0.5 V DC, they'd drift to like ± 0.8 (usually always on the low end). So, if you're P/S has dropped to 4.2 volts, you're down to 1600 mA-barely enough to power the drive mechanism. Termination voltage (talkback) is 0.4 ± 0.1 V DC. So if the output voltage has drifted within that overlap, talkback will be intermittent, at best, because of the drop in milliampere (mA). So yes, a new (or even just more modern rectifier) power supply, will keep that voltage right at 5 volts, thus the full 2000 mA needed. Check the adaptor specs: minimum output should be no less than 2000 mA (2.0 A) and no _more_ than 3500 mA (3.5 A).Otherwise, I've found the sweet spot to be 3000 mA (3.0 A). More than adequate power to supply the drive, the logic, and the termination signal, without drawing more than 0.7 A from mains.
@tim0steele
@tim0steele Жыл бұрын
Always worth reminding people to be very careful not to bump the neck of the tube as that can release (let in?) the magic smoke. I did that once.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
Yes!! I’ve never made that “oopsie” myself, but it’s something I was taught by the seasoned Mac technicians who trained me back in 1999. I was actually thinking to myself “please tell people to be careful of the neck board when opening” while he did it because indeed, I’ve heard of many retro Mac enthusiasts cracking their tubes that way. :(
@tim0steele
@tim0steele Жыл бұрын
@@tookitogo I only did it once, on an old SE/30. Once is too often though!
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
@@tim0steele At least you learned from it! Some people are… resolute in their hamfistedness. :P
@timothyp8947
@timothyp8947 Жыл бұрын
Sympathise over the annual eye check; it’s amazing how blurry it makes the world and it can even make it near impossible to see in very bright conditions. There’s something very appealing about those compact Macs. Never really got to use one, although remember seeing one during my final few months at college back in 1987. Did at that time get to use a micro vax workstation with a bitmap screen and windowed VMS, along with a Sun 3 workstation.
@redleader6442
@redleader6442 Жыл бұрын
These things really are tanks. Mine survived a flood (submerged for hours), and only the analog board needed to be replaced. The floppy drive spindle motor was loud and scratchy and I needed to relube the eject mech, but it still worked perfectly. Cleaned rust from the metal bracket that's soldered to the rear of the logic board, checked the caps, and all is perfect. No parts of the tube rusted whatsoever and somehow got absolutely no water in it. It's very, very hard to completely kill a Mac Plus.
@fredsk1
@fredsk1 Жыл бұрын
Sony use those black plastic push-pins too and I found that an effective way to get them out without pushing from the other side is to use a pair of needle nose pliers and grip the flat part from the edge and pull straight outward.
@bookerol
@bookerol Жыл бұрын
This really brings back memories. I had found a Mac 512k at a thrift store, ages ago. It had HV issues and I purchased a used board and had it up and running. I have quite the collection of thrift store finds still, and this video makes me want to get the old ones out again and play. Adrian, thanks for putting this up, I really enjoyed it!
@kjamison5951
@kjamison5951 2 ай бұрын
I have a few of these in various states of repair. Floppy drives are the issue with small broken gear wheels in the mechanism. Rifa caps are smelly when they explode. And retrobriting takes time but it’s all worth it. Recapping and cleaning everything thoroughly is a good rule of thumb.
@lgmuniz
@lgmuniz Жыл бұрын
There's something about Adrian that I like a lot, which is always adding knowledge about everything that is happening in the video, not only about the Mac; e.g. the tip about the Zip drive's power supply and to not mess with the voltage regulator on the board. That shows a lot of care and attention. Kudos!
@minty_Joe
@minty_Joe Жыл бұрын
The Macintosh Plus was introduced in early 1986 and discontinued in late 1990. IIRC, it was the longest running model of Macintosh; all other models ran for about 1 to 3 years tops.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
For a long time it was. But the cylindrical Mac Pro (the 2013 model) was sold unchanged for over one year longer!! (The 2013 Mac Pro was discontinued only about a week shy of being sold for 6 years unchanged!!!)
@gene2024
@gene2024 Жыл бұрын
Wow!! A Zip Drive ... that brought back a whole bunch of memories. Those were the greatest thing since sliced bread.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
I sadly no longer have my external SCSI Zip drive, but I do have an internal Zip drive on my old PowerBook, and of course a USB drive for use on modern Macs. And all of my old Zip disks, including a few unused ones!
@user-mz6qu3hz6m
@user-mz6qu3hz6m Жыл бұрын
The screen is 72DPI, so you want to adjust the screen so that 1” measures 1”. You can use a ruler right on the screen.
@pauledwards2817
@pauledwards2817 Жыл бұрын
Great repair and especially enjoyed that it portrayed the real experience of retro computers, back up plans to backup plans to get around those snags that stop a fix. I went through so many options to get nextstep working on a sun box. I pays to have a lot of alternative tech around as they all have quirks.
@codfish6845
@codfish6845 6 ай бұрын
Well I just got a Macintosh Plus and it had the exact same issue and the things you did fixed it! Thank you!!
@hughoneill9929
@hughoneill9929 Жыл бұрын
In the '80s I had an Apple dealership on the UK south coast. Had a phone call from the USS Iowa in the Bay of Biscay; their Mac had stopped working and would need it to pay the crew, I understood. They didn't have the long tool to open the case, so Iowa came alongside at Portsmouth for me to fix the Mac. Most of the internal connectors had separated, so I simply reseated them all and it worked. The likely reason for the partial disassembly at sea was that they had been practising broadsides - well, the Mac wasn't designed to withstand that kind of punishment! Had a conducted tour of the ship too, most impressive.
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 Жыл бұрын
My first Mac. One of Apple’s best machines. I bought mine brand new in 1989.
@Rossv2motion
@Rossv2motion Жыл бұрын
I must commend your excellent walkthrough of this Macintosh Plus repair. Your methodical approach, coupled with your clear, concise explanations, really simplifies what could otherwise be a complex process. It's refreshing to see such dedication to preserving and maintaining vintage technology. I'll certainly be referencing this video in future restoration projects. Outstanding work!
@nintendoeats
@nintendoeats Жыл бұрын
A few months ago I pulled out a 512k Mac I inhereted. Two issues with it: the internal floppy drive didn't work, and the video signal was intermittent (it would come on if I gave the machine a good whack). I did pull it apart, but unfortunately the piece of card on mine was held in with double-sided tape so I didn't want to pull it off unless I was reasonably confident of a fix. So I saw this, thought "yup that is the fix" and put it on my to-do list. Just took the machine down to my digital basement and reflowed those connector joints, she now works. They were very nasty, and obviously cracked. Thanks!
@rickjansen3823
@rickjansen3823 11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, exactly the same prob! Just the boing and a black screen. Reflowing the joints of the connectors did it! 😘
@terminusaquo1980
@terminusaquo1980 Жыл бұрын
Even though I'm not a Mac person it's nice to see older Macs getting some TLC 😄
@DarrenHughes-Hybrid
@DarrenHughes-Hybrid Жыл бұрын
Yeah! It's nice to see all these old computers get re-appreciated! Imagine/remember what we accomplished with them! For what they were compared to today!!
@dashcamandy2242
@dashcamandy2242 Жыл бұрын
I used to "operate" on Pluses, SEs, and lower II-series in my high school's two Mac Labs. My initial hope after the successful "bong" was waiting for the tube to warm up and to see the flashing disk with question mark, crossing my fingers that we wouldn't see a Sad Mac. When the CRT didn't come up, but you felt static, my immediate diagnosis was "cold solder joints on sweep board at the mobo connector" followed by "cold solder joint on sweep board at the flyback transformer." I've seen those two failures so often... The high school had a breakout lead that plugged into the floppy port to check system voltages. I actually did, on the rare occasion, tweak the "Voltage" pot when needed, but if I couldn't get both voltages into spec through that adjustment, I discharged the caps & CRT, pulled the board, and packaged it for transport. We had a company we ordered refurbished boards from that had an exchange program, it cost the school $185 per refurbished board. Much cheaper than ordering from Apple. When I graduated in '96, there were far more refurbished boards than original boards in use. We ended up modding fans in all of the Pluses to pull heat out the top, which helped keep them from self-destruction. 11:49 - Congratulations! The common failure points are always worth checking first. (As you said, the compact Macs are fairly bulletproof - aside from the SIM slots.) System 6.0.8 is the latest System that will run well on that architecture. The poor things just can't handle 7 very well. System 7.5 boots in roughly seven and a half minutes, which makes it rather appropriate (4 MB RAM, plus an aftermarket accelerator card boosting me to 16 MHz). Of course, with System 6.x.x, you could have a functional OS, a Word Processor (with Spell Check), a handful of extra fonts, and room to save a few documents all on the space of an 800K floppy disk, which was pretty convenient. A hard drive failure didn't mean you were dead in the water.
@Zeem4
@Zeem4 Жыл бұрын
I guessed it was the solder joints on the video connector before I even started watching the video - that was also the last repair I did to a Mac Plus. It was also the last cheap retro computer I bought from anywhere before prices went silly - I managed to buy it off eBay for £10, and it was a local pickup. It's been in my loft for years because the floppy drive scratches and ruins any disk that's inserted. One of my other Mac Pluses has a wobbly picture and a blown SCSI chip, so I was just going to swap the floppy drives over, but I never got round to it.
@thecomputergeek101old
@thecomputergeek101old Жыл бұрын
this is completly random
@thecomputergeek101old
@thecomputergeek101old Жыл бұрын
sorry, I am watching a different video, so I kind-of broke youtube.
@dminalba
@dminalba Жыл бұрын
My high school’s business studies department had a lab of mac pluses all networked to a LaserWriter II, later on a 2nd mac lab was installed with Mac classics
@jamesdemarco5671
@jamesdemarco5671 Жыл бұрын
Adrian, enjoyed the videos, I have a Mac Plus with a sad mac face and a 01C82A code displaying, any advice ? Thank you !
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke Жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's nice to have a repair that's so easy and quick to fix, cos having to reverse-engineer things to figure out how it works in order to repair it can be a headache, so a simple revival feels quite satisfying... :)
@ImmortanJoeCamel
@ImmortanJoeCamel Жыл бұрын
You absolute genius! I have a proprietary monitor from a Brother word processor that I repaired. I absolutely cannot work out the sync rates. I never thought of using a spectrum analyser!
@King_Dub_Dub
@King_Dub_Dub Жыл бұрын
I got 3 of these last summer from an newspaper company that did some spring cleaning, so far I just need to test an OS on the big one, debug some glitchy video and recap another, and figure out what's even wrong with the last one since it might be absolutely dead. There was a mac classic as well, but the inside literally turned to dust when I opened it and the board is almost completely corroded. Did some cleaning but haven't looked at it or the others in over a year, will be working on those and watching your stuff for sure.
@KerboOnYT
@KerboOnYT Жыл бұрын
Nice repair. My aunt had one of these for a long time. Every 3-5 years it would quit and I'd tweak the 5V voltage reg a bit to get it back to spec and it was good
@BollingHolt
@BollingHolt Жыл бұрын
I have two of these machines, one of them I keep on display in my office with 4 MB of RAM. It has a SCSI2SD in an external hard drive enclosure. The only way I got that to work was because of some tips that you gave me a few years ago I think you again and I’m glad you have one as well. You are right. It is a very reliable machine!
@1BitFeverDreams
@1BitFeverDreams Жыл бұрын
Macintosh Plus! The computer I started on, still own it. It still works. Had to reflow some solder joints. Had to repair a crack in the keyboard. Now it's supported by 3 Raspberry Pis - (1) a Pi Zero running a RGBtoHDMI (I have you to thank for being inspired to do it from your Classic RGBtoHDMI video) (2) a Pi Pico running a BlueSCSI v2 and (3) a Pi3b running a USB4VC if I want to use modern peripherals (usb mouse and keyboard, wireless bluetooth playstation gamepads) using the spanking new protocol card for early macs+lisa+adb macs!
@IkarusKommt
@IkarusKommt Жыл бұрын
What a waste of perfectly good hardware.
@1BitFeverDreams
@1BitFeverDreams Жыл бұрын
@@IkarusKommt Imagine gatekeeping the niche hobby of retro computers according to arbitrary standards?!
@IkarusKommt
@IkarusKommt Жыл бұрын
@@1BitFeverDreams Wasting perfectly good modern equipment for 'retrocomputing' is just creating e-waste.
@1BitFeverDreams
@1BitFeverDreams Жыл бұрын
@@IkarusKommt oh, I must have missed the part of the EULA where I can only use those Pis according to IkarusKommt's ideas. Let me check the documentation real quick and I'll get back to you as soon as I find it, pinky promise.
@series80
@series80 Жыл бұрын
Hi Adrian, I'd like to thank you sooo much for the tip about using an audio spectrum analyzer to detect the the HV is present on the tube. I have an HP-150 which had a blank display, and I thought that it was due to a failed flyback transformer. But with the help of a spectrum analyzer I determined that the display was in fact driven, so the cause was elsewhere. Eventually I found that the problem was with the intensity knob(!). Now my HP-150 is working again. Wooow. Thanks again Vassilis
@DemagnetizedMedia
@DemagnetizedMedia Жыл бұрын
The original Mac case design may be one of the friendliest designs ever.
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement Жыл бұрын
It's pretty iconic and indeed, it's very easy to work on. A great design!
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
Other than how easy it is to crack the CRT by bumping the neck board when pulling off the back case. (I never made that mistake myself, because the veteran Mac techs who trained me back in 1999 warned me about it.)
@squirlmy
@squirlmy Жыл бұрын
​@@adriansdigitalbasement while not "portable" in modern standards, the design was inspired by the success of the Compaq Portable. I'm sure you know how IBM machines, with separate CRTs were very unweildy. Apple took their cue, after all at the time Compaq had been the fastest growing American company ever.
@soundman447
@soundman447 Жыл бұрын
Love the Zip boot disk I did that all the time back in the day
@DeathMetalDerf
@DeathMetalDerf Жыл бұрын
I just took my dad (also a diabetic) to have the exact same thing done on Friday morning. Everything was good for him, I very much hope everything went well for you, too!
@miked4377
@miked4377 Жыл бұрын
adrian i have to give you credit for being a die hard retro computer enthusiast! i just found your channel and it is great because i love retro computer and game consoles...you have a ton of good videos! thanks adrian!!
@TheGreatAtario
@TheGreatAtario Жыл бұрын
That Lazy Susan is a good addition to the bench
@azmrblack
@azmrblack Ай бұрын
I had the same problem back in 1997 when I pulled one of those out the closet at my aunts. It worked for a day, then I turned it on, heard a pop, and no screen. Back then I knew nothing as a 14 yo teenager, so I called Apple. They said it was possibly the flyback transformer, and wanted me to send it in. Well, wasn't mine and we threw it away. I had a Macintosh Classic and a LC II (both which I used in grade school) for a few years in the mid-2000's, it was fun to play with them again, but ended up selling them when I could emulate the old 68K macs on Windows.
@patprop74
@patprop74 Жыл бұрын
Adrian's so good at fixing old computers, he doesn't even need to see to get them fixed lol
@VK2FVAX
@VK2FVAX Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed Adrian's LongPlay Crystal Quest video. Nice one. Need to change the title of the video to LongPlay Crystal Quest
@retropuffer2986
@retropuffer2986 Жыл бұрын
Love the Plus. The 1MB memory was awesome for it's day!
@angrydove4067
@angrydove4067 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you would have tried a Blue SCSI as well. Great fix, once I got an abandoned 26" color console TV and found a burnt wire on the yoke plug in 2 minutes by doing a visual inspection, free TV! It can be simple or it can be hard. Keep up the good work and videos.
@ukmk3supra
@ukmk3supra Жыл бұрын
You reminded me that I still have to fix my Mac Plus - the flyback on it died, and the Dalbani sourced one i got never worked - luckily i found out that the one from the SE work, as do ones from the Classic, too.
@voneschenbachmusic
@voneschenbachmusic Жыл бұрын
I enjoy seeing another classic mac restored to working condition for many more years of fun!
@principals16842
@principals16842 Жыл бұрын
"Is it booting? It is booting indeed." For a video that came out shortly after Easter, that really tickled me.
@keith_5584
@keith_5584 Жыл бұрын
There is that engineering spirit. I cant see well so bonus points if I can fix it!
@jameshall8838
@jameshall8838 Жыл бұрын
Ooooh I had a couple of these back in the day. Tandy IBM clones too. I really like your intro music, and the 8 bit feeling video filter. Very catchy and cool.
@squirlmy
@squirlmy Жыл бұрын
Nitpick, but most of the Tandy machines weren't "clones". They used an MS-DOS incompatible with PC-DOS, and required applications specifically made for the Tandy version of DOS. Compaqs were the first true clones back then, and were at least 95% compatible with IBM. After Phoenix BIOS, there were a lot of clones. I believe BASIC worked identically though. This is important to know to get software running.
@dave928
@dave928 Жыл бұрын
i still have my Mac 128k (haven't turned it on in probably 30 years). was forever fixing bad solder joints on the analog board to keep it running. it also has a Mac Plus ROM and 4 megs on a daughter board. my IIsi had it's battery leak to the point that it corroded 1/3 of the board and lifted the traces on the board, so it's completely shot. :(
@LymanGreen
@LymanGreen Жыл бұрын
They were making Mac Pluses in 1988, I received a new one as a freshman in college. I believe they were still going for a year or two after that.
@cliffshockley4406
@cliffshockley4406 Жыл бұрын
I see... on a video recorded on 4/20, it's the "eye exam" that dilated Adrian's pupils! :D
@sfred
@sfred Жыл бұрын
Great fix and now I want to play Crystal Quest!
@acubley
@acubley Жыл бұрын
Those Sharpies are really great for black power bricks. They don't seem to fade.
@robbybobbyhobbies
@robbybobbyhobbies Жыл бұрын
Eyes dilated and you're making content? That's dedication. I sit in a darkened room for a few hours after that procedure (just regular sight tests).
@softdorothy
@softdorothy Жыл бұрын
Love seeing Casady & Greene (and Patrick Buckland) show up in the 21st Century.
@sloopymalibu
@sloopymalibu Жыл бұрын
Nice, I used to be a Mac tech back in the 90's... I have seen way too many of these... and I am glad you liked and use the Metallic Sharpie! Also, missed you at CoCoFest! But look forward to seeing you at VCFmw in September!
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
19:25 The Mac Plus was one of the longest-lived Mac models, being sold from January 1986 until October 1990! So this motherboard would still have been well within the regular production timeframe.
@ChrisFaulkner
@ChrisFaulkner Жыл бұрын
I have one of these, fell off my table, still works.. only problem i have is I can't find any floppies to get it up an fully working
@ytgadfly
@ytgadfly Жыл бұрын
the most reliable mac back then was an amiga running a mac emulator
@DIYDaveOK
@DIYDaveOK Жыл бұрын
ZIPDisks were/are the unappreciated mass storage from that era. They were super!
@Darknecros7
@Darknecros7 Жыл бұрын
The first computer I used (I was 5 years old at the time) was the good old Apple ][. The first computer with a mouse and a full GUI I used was a Macintosh Plus. To this day, I very well remember the sounds of the floppy drive on those Macs. I’ll take the floppy drive noises the macs made over the PC ones any day.
@stevethepocket
@stevethepocket Жыл бұрын
I'd have taken either over the Amiga 1000's with its loud scratchy honking. You put a bad disk in that sucker and you really know something's wrong.
@marksterling8286
@marksterling8286 Жыл бұрын
Love the max plus. Loved the extra ram and the scsi interface. A vaguely remember using one of these with a scsi Ethernet adapter to let it access an Ethernet network and an Apple talk network.
@Peter_S_
@Peter_S_ Жыл бұрын
Ah yes... the Asante EN/SC. That brought back some memories. I had a few clients who used the secretary's old cast-off Plus as a font server on LocalTalk so when Ethernet arrived in the office that EN/SC interface became quite popular for about a year.
@smcic
@smcic Жыл бұрын
Rascsi can emulate an Ethernet adapter and let’s you connect to a lan. Telnet and ftp work but web browsing will be difficult - need a web proxy…
@Alexis_du_60
@Alexis_du_60 Жыл бұрын
​@@Peter_S_ I think I have one of these for my LC II (currently in pieces at a friend's place waiting to be recapped), I could've gotten a LC PDS card but I'm going to reserve that for the day I find a Apple IIe PDS card, even though it's probably not going to happen in a gazillion years until someone manages to somehow recreate it using a FPGA (or something like that) to emulate the main chip 😂
@robertoXCX
@robertoXCX Жыл бұрын
Spectroid sounds like the kind of app that I've been seriously missing out on.
@sideburn
@sideburn Жыл бұрын
“Not going to have no video signal though” - the one time that grammar is correct 😆
@josch1710
@josch1710 Жыл бұрын
I have both types of the floppy emu firmwares on the SD, so I can switch between Mac and Apple II mode without constantly downloading firmwares.
@Cybernetic_Systems
@Cybernetic_Systems Жыл бұрын
Great video Adrian. I personally found that SCSI2SD does not work with older compact Mac’s than the SE (inclusive). However BlueSCSI units work perfectly.
@InitialiseDisk
@InitialiseDisk Жыл бұрын
Great video Adrian! I should really get myself a compact Mac at some point.
@rfmerrill
@rfmerrill Жыл бұрын
Aren't later monitors usually 30 kHz or higher? That probably won't get picked up by a phone since it's outside the audible range.
@jbwrist
@jbwrist Жыл бұрын
Love my Mac Plus.
@darkwinter6028
@darkwinter6028 Жыл бұрын
Technically, fourth in the line - there was also the 512ke; which was just like the 512k but had the upgraded ROMs so it was compatible with the 800k floppy drive.
@kargaroc386
@kargaroc386 Жыл бұрын
I'd figure that it came out after the Plus, or at the very least at the same time.
@darkwinter6028
@darkwinter6028 Жыл бұрын
@@kargaroc386 By shipping date, the 512ke was a couple of months later. By capability; the Plus would be the fourth step up from the original Macintosh… which is what I was thinking of in my original post. 🤔
@squirlmy
@squirlmy Жыл бұрын
I guess you did "Think Different" For that one. 😂
@hamradio3716
@hamradio3716 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Excellent as usual 😊
@RudyAdrian
@RudyAdrian 3 ай бұрын
One way of preserving those valuable and fragile floppy discs is to leave 'em in when turning off - the ejecting and pushing back in seems to be quite harmful
@sjgrall
@sjgrall Жыл бұрын
I have an SE I need to dig out of storage and re-restore, it was damaged in storage a few years back. Never got the opportunity to use a Plus, but I once knew someone who had one as a conversation piece.
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement Жыл бұрын
The SE is quite a reliable and hearty machine -- other than the motherboard mounted battery which can spill tis guts all over the PCB, killing it. Hopefully your Mac can be happy again :-)
@Zeem4
@Zeem4 Жыл бұрын
@@adriansdigitalbasement I removed the battery from my SE to guard against that. It had a 1989 date code, hadn't leaked at all, and was showing full voltage when I tested it with a multimeter. It seemed a shame to put it in the battery recycling bin!
@Marco_Chiappetta
@Marco_Chiappetta Жыл бұрын
HA -- I think we were chatting when he gave you that Sharpie at VCF East!
@mike03151
@mike03151 Жыл бұрын
The 1989 date codes on ICs are no big surprise. The Plus was on the market for a long time - until 1990
@ChrisHalden007
@ChrisHalden007 Жыл бұрын
I love those Macintosh videos. Always hope the next one will show how to fix the issue I have on mine 🤣 great video. Thanks
@desiv1170
@desiv1170 Жыл бұрын
What's the firmware version of that SCSI2SD? I seem to think that some early versions didn't work with the Mac Plus? I have to admit, early in the vid, I was trying to tap the side of my laptop to "tap" the Mac Plus a few times. I've seen some vids where they did that to see a solder joint problem... That probably isn't a great idea to do to a running Mac tho... ;-)
@shiroshine7227
@shiroshine7227 Жыл бұрын
Mine still runs with original scsi disk.... yah that title is 100% correct (most reliable mac)
@johnwells558
@johnwells558 Жыл бұрын
Here the uk (hull), i most of sold hundreds of them , great machine
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra Жыл бұрын
Damn, after your "quick" game I now want to play that old original Crystal Quest, but I don't have any old Mac to do that.
@tocsa120ls
@tocsa120ls Жыл бұрын
Love the old "Hershey bar" 68xxx CPUs 😊
@Brad64url
@Brad64url Жыл бұрын
I do believe that there is a firmware setting that needs to be changed to get the sd2scsi working on the Mac plus. I have one that works, and I do remember having to edit the firmware settings on the sd2scsi device.
@DarkVain
@DarkVain Жыл бұрын
Happy eye checkup! 😁Have to go for my checkup soon. Fellow diabetic
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement Жыл бұрын
It was a clean bill of health for my eyes! Woot
@diags6468
@diags6468 Жыл бұрын
I noticed you used the 1MB ram sticks with 3 chips. I’ve had really bad luck with those, and the machine can randomly crash when using them. I think that’s what caused the error when you booted it up on the first attempt.
@DarrenHughes-Hybrid
@DarrenHughes-Hybrid Жыл бұрын
Of course you mean, general recapping is not necessary, but rifa (sp?) caps should be replaced, as you did in this computer, right?
@tookitogo
@tookitogo Жыл бұрын
Yes. Old RIFA caps are liable to belch black smoke.
@HardDriveGuruOfficial
@HardDriveGuruOfficial Жыл бұрын
The Sad Mac code at 22:58 is 0F0002, in case anyone's curious and doesn't feel like going back!
@mikespangler98
@mikespangler98 Жыл бұрын
I dimly remember the Mac plus was very picky about SCSI termination.
@suvetar
@suvetar Жыл бұрын
Oh lord, I hate those drops ... first time I had them, it took 4 weeks to wear off .... even street lights hurt at that time!
@TheSulross
@TheSulross Жыл бұрын
Adrian soldiers on even when he's blind :-)
@stevethepocket
@stevethepocket Жыл бұрын
And solders on, even.
@alexshepherd
@alexshepherd Жыл бұрын
I think you were a little lucky that it was just solder joints :) I have a Mac Plus here today that’s making the ‘snick-snick-snick’ noise…
@sym0n
@sym0n Жыл бұрын
I have a 1MB Plus that had the exact same issue. Mine booted just fine from the bluescsi so maybe it's something weird with your emu and the Plus. I wish you wouldn't gloss over and cut around discharging the CRT in your videos, though. Someone is going to skip past your verbal warning and get a shock while trying to do the repairs.
@Milsparro
@Milsparro Жыл бұрын
Studio lights and dilated eyes is dedication - ouch!
@LibertyWarrior68
@LibertyWarrior68 Жыл бұрын
My mother bought a Mac Plus, it was around $4000 which was very expensive back then.
@bitoxic
@bitoxic Жыл бұрын
Adrian, I would not be surprised if you can repair this Mac blindfolded! 😉
@RS-ls7mm
@RS-ls7mm Жыл бұрын
The only thing I liked about these tiny screen macs at the time was McDraw. The best drawing program.
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk Жыл бұрын
I have one from 1990 or so, one of these days I’ll pop it open and start swapping caps.
@JulienMR
@JulienMR Жыл бұрын
6.50$ my god :) Those stickers are collectors :) Good job with the Mac, I have an SE to repair, I guess it's the same ?
@wkrick
@wkrick Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video where you recommend tools and products for soldering? Irons, flux, braid, etc..?
@stridz0r
@stridz0r Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Venezuela! Love your videos! Care to tell us what video equipment you use to make your videos?
@eugenimacia7576
@eugenimacia7576 Жыл бұрын
I had an SE/30 with the 40Mb disk. Near indestructible one.
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