Mack R Model Loading and Moving 161 Fiat Allis Scraper

[@kman-mi7su]

You have to love an old R model Mack! They are definitely a working man's truck. They aren't there to say "Hey!, everybody look at me with my goofy oversized visor and other silliness". Nope, its there to get the job done and on to the next with no nonsense.

[@timmensch3601]

You never see them on the west coast probably because they are to heavy and ride like shit nothing but paccar here In heavy haul on the west coast

[@kman-mi7su]

@@timmensch3601 They used to dominate her on the East Coast back in the 70s and 80s. I grew up in NJ and back then you weren't a contractor or heavy hauler if you didn't have one in your fleet.

[@richardjohnson5883]

Great video! These older machines will be running long after the electronics have shut down this new equipment.R model Mack = one of the most dependable trucks ever built

[@alanwilliamson9350]

I'm glad I found your channel. I love the older equipment you guys use and supporting a fellow Virginian. I'm in Bedford County, VA. and related to some May's here.

[@AppalachianRust]

@@alanwilliamson9350 Nice! Thank you. We’ve done a lot of work in Bedford. I’m waiting for someone to say they saw one of our trucks on the road. Dad and my Uncle bought most of the stuff through the 90s and early 2000s And I hope to get some fresh paint on this truck it needs it. Thanks for watching

[@carlwilliams1570]

@@AppalachianRust I saw the Autocar with the dump trailer a month or more back coming out of Cross Roads Market on 60.

[@AppalachianRust]

@@carlwilliams1570 that the store on 60 by riverville? If so my uncle got a load of compost for this job down there

[@carlwilliams1570]

@@AppalachianRust Yes

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[@mintyman1968]

Great video, love the old Mack and FiatAllis. I really enjoy your channel with all the old iron. Reminds me a lot of the equipment my Grandpa had in the 70s for his road construction company., Albeit he run all Terex and Cat scrapers. I think his biggest ones were 657s, which my Great Uncle says could haul 7 tandem dump truck loads of dirt and go 50mph down the road, because they were too big to haul around. Neat to see an old FA (as my friend Ray calls them, Flat Allison) still around, not many still kicking and making a buck.

[@timmensch3601]

Here on the west coast, with the big single engine scrapers, they would haul the front end on a dolly connected to the fifth wheel and let the rear wheels roll on the road when they transported it could only go like 45 mph because the rear ends would bounce like crazy on the pavement

[@jasonbuck489]

I spent A LOT of Hours on those Old Pans.... We almost never Hauled them... We had a Big Beam Trailer and Blocking them up and Chaining them was a pain, but not as bad as Goofing Around trying to get Permits... Im here in Pa... Most of the time we would just Drive the daggone things from Job to Job... The were the Big Twin Engine CAT's and they would Run down the Road 40 plus MPH, Bouncing, Lashing, and Wriggling the whole way... Haha!

[@AppalachianRust]

Yep we have a 627 Cat we need to move. We’ve got a bigger trailer for that monster. Don’t run any of them much anymore though. We have driven them a lot down the road, thought about doing it here, but was afraid it might blow a hose out on the road. And it did as soon as we got it off the trailer at the job site.

[@18winsagin]

I learned in a 79 R Model in 83 hauling track loaders, dozers, paddle pans, excavators and paving equipment . Was a great opportunity to learn what I did then. The license was a chauffeur's then and no written tests required. Was a great time in my life at 22 years old. The company had a 72 DM but it was a very rough ride, it was originally sold for a concrete mixer but they bought it to pull a lowboy, it didn't have a lot of power but definitely pulled the loads.

[@glennhunter7018]

Man that sure was a big load for the Mack but it handled it real good Mack is a tough truck my friend. Be safe on the job and road.

[@clarkecampbell5843]

Ok i clicked because of the r model mack... and holy crap i know the people where you picked up the pan, and then you drove right by my house!! I see my own work truck at 18:03 lol.

[@AppalachianRust]

Nice haha that man where the pan was worked for us for a long while. Still occasionally helps. He used to drive all these trucks and recently helped on some repair work on the red dump truck. (Also I responded to your other comment on the other video) thanks for watching.

[@keithselzer9816]

That old equipment reminds me back when i ran our lowboy. I use to haul 621 cat. Pans on our 35 ton eager beaver trailer. I never had to put blocks under the front wheels. I just backed them on and put the bowl down on the beaver tail and let the back wheels hang off the back. Looked bad but i never had any fall off.

[@CharlesSmith-ty2ce]

Thanks Young Man can't wait to see it run my uncle worked on interstates and ran that old steel 😊😊

[@AppalachianRust]

@@CharlesSmith-ty2ce I would leave high school early my senior year and run this machine when I first started working. Kind of a daunting machine to jump on and figure out especially when everyone says “just don’t turn it this way on a hill or it might turn over”😅 Thanks for watching

[@troybigham2453]

That's a dream setup right there!

[@steveleonard3262]

ranum brand new! my problem with fat alice is limited slip differentials . by the time the other wheel would kick in u were stuck like chuck. the 613 cat had a dif lock button on floor n u could hit it before you started into mud n would not get stuck near as often as fat alice. also drove r model lowboy n dumps. good dependable trucks. back n tha day 😊

[@Userqwerty349]

I drove a Mack and lowboy. Like yours, it had air conditioning, but so much heat comes through the floor it doesn't do much.

[@treystewart544]

That scraper looks exactly like a caterpillar scraper sounds awesome with caterpillar diesel power 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@Mudsuitable]

Cool equip. that's a gorgeous area too Ive got family in Red House..

[@raystarky3896]

That looks just like MY Green 71' Mack with a 350 13spd minus the Bull Dog on the Nose of the truck. You would have love it Though because It had a Winch with a 1/2" cable and i installed a Wet Kit for an End Dump and wired it up for a Semi Bottom Dump. It did ALOT of work in california Highways. City streets, sub diviisions. and many many other jobs i forgot about

[@Thefunnyfarm78]

That ol mack didn't care a bit that old scraper was on her back. 👍

[@JimmyCasket02]

That looked like quite the load for that little old bulldog seems like it handled like a champ

[@SootyMangabey.]

Cant remember the last time I've seen a Fiat Allis in person, rare machines nowadays. Those 903s were either loved or hated. They were real bad for electrolysis and hydro locking. One had to take extra care that the coolant had the proper additives. They do sound great though especially with a turbo.

[@Bob-j5o3b]

I like them but like just about all engines, they have their peculiarities that need to be taken care of. We added a coolant filter to ours that didn't previously have one and that along with the correct coolant, treated it and we no longer had electrolysis problems.

[@roberthenry9319]

Marvelous video. @fourbanger's "Fat Alice" comment is good. @fourbanger is talking about the fact that before Fiat jumped over their heads into the earth moving scene, these big machines and everything from dozers to backhoe/loaders were made by Allis-Chalmers in West Allis, Wisconsin (Milwaukee).. A-C blew it by selling themselves to Fiat. The Italians bumped up against Caterpillar and John Deere and had to run back to Italy to focus on fast cars that fall apart. Old Allis Chalmers was left to turn into dust.

[@AppalachianRust]

Allis Chalmers had a lot of things going it’s a shame it fell apart like it did

[@davidforbes6250]

Great commentary and content as usual.

[@DalePopiel-z4q]

I REMEBER THE OLD R MODEL MACK THEY ARE AWESOME

[@vintagetruckgarage]

Not too many of us around keeping the old macks and equipment around that are younger. Over winter i should have videoed my work for the farm, 300 twin stick rd686 with 56000# rears. I drove it daily 10 years ago to the feed grinder in muncy. Did 2 wheel seals and the 300 dropped 2 exhaust valves in 5&6. And bent all 6 pushrods in the rear head. Damaged pistons and cylinder head. Parts are not as easy to find anymore good used. Can still get some parts new or nos. New heads are dear tho.$ 1400 bare. Most trucks that age were scrapped years ago in the scrap yards near me in pa. The old allis peaks me too. I have a 38 unstyled wc. Allis was sold off in the 70s and bounced around until agco acuired the name. I dont think they are in construction anymore. They used to be a leading mfg of almost everything imagined especially construction. They were right there in the 40s and 50s with case and cat.

[@AppalachianRust]

@@vintagetruckgarage dang. Yeah Fiat bought Allis Chalmers heavy equipment in the mid 70s. Allis Chalmers farm equipment went into the 80s but deutz bought them and then to AGCO

[@SBVegasAdventures]

Your audio is great! Subscribed

[@AppalachianRust]

@@SBVegasAdventures much appreciated

[@frfrpr]

That was some good filming. New subscriber here.

[@AppalachianRust]

Welcome. thanks!

[@johndowe7003]

Nice ol truck and trailer. Looks like fun

[@ricksadler797]

Nice. Old equipment is awesome

[@chriszumsch47]

what a cool rig.

[@farmall51]

Enjoyed the video.

[@CLHardy44]

Love seeing the Melvin Morgan truck😅 they are everywhere

[@AppalachianRust]

Haha

[@danthompson1467]

I worked on them when they where new 1978 man them was good days

[@jaykobb.stephens2446]

My cousin had one for a long time. He moved a lot of dirt with it, but the 615 CAT's he had ran circles around it. Pretty sure his had an Allis engine.

[@jlmarvin5277]

I've ran alot of scrapers ts14 terex, 260 fiat, and 621 cats. They are all a pain in the rear to load!

[@AppalachianRust]

@@jlmarvin5277 yes haha

[@AmericanoTS]

this V8 cummins sounds nicely

[@googguy59]

old but gold

[@willieabraham4882]

I got over 35 r700 mack long nose I love that them mack truck I learn truck mack, Peterbilt, international truck always have mack special r700 mack

[@jdjeep46]

Nice equipment. I live not far from there, in Prospect.

[@AppalachianRust]

@@jdjeep46 Nice. We’ve done a lot of work in Appomattox for Bill Jamerson. Dad does work as far down as keysville and Chase City for Ontario hardwood occasionally.

[@jimsbasslist]

The ol doggy was earning that bone that day!

[@davieferdinand8832]

Great video! Love to see the Mighty Macks in action. Out of curiosity why didn't you haul the Scraper to the site?

[@AppalachianRust]

@@davieferdinand8832 you mean me personally drive the truck? I guess I could have but my uncle knew exactly the route he wanted to take.

[@Ledwards22]

Nothing on gods green earth like some good old iron!

[@jasonbuck489]

Old Paddle Pan with a Screamin' Jimmy in it..... NICE!

[@AppalachianRust]

@@jasonbuck489 it’s a Cummins but yeah still screaming haha

[@a.m.9529]

قناتك رائعة جدا وتقدم محتوى جميل لقد قمت للتو بالاشتراك في قناتك الرائعة

[@AppalachianRust]

Thank you

[@Nudnik1]

Cummins v5 in pan ? Or 3208 Cat? Air tires down better traction on soft ground.

[@AppalachianRust]

@@Nudnik1 it’s a V8 Cummins. He ran through a stump hole, it was still wet underneath from a recent rain

[@claudemardebemdesouza1292]

Caminhao muito bom👍👍

[@flir67man84]

The amount of mountain land that being cleared for houses is insane… what are the lots going to go for? 20k?

[@AppalachianRust]

@@flir67man84 I’m not sure but I wouldn’t doubt it. The land owner will probably build spec houses on each lot.

[@Donald-jm4hi]

R600 best truck Mack ever built

[@AppalachianRust]

Ol Mack keeps going after many other trucks give it up

[@MattHercik-q9t]

When do you get a m 21:39 ack superliner to own

[@carldrexler7883]

Hi James, you could use a 6 speed in that truck should the opportunity ever arise 😉

[@AppalachianRust]

Yeah it could use those lower gears

[@dainisrubulis7171]

Durvis kaa zili'nam!

[@danielfontaine1880]

Bonjour ,c est délicat a conduire cette " grosse bète " 😄 mais le conducteur connait la dompter et gérer 👍 bonne vidéo merci a toi salutation .

[@gilbertomoreira7019]

Top esse fiat allis scriper qual engines dessa maquina cummins ou detroit diesel ?!

[@AppalachianRust]

Cummins 903 V8

[@gilbertomoreira7019]

@@AppalachianRust obrigado parceiro 🤝👍

[@muhammadjipri9362]

❤

[@lewiemcneely9143]

I got around 555's and 903e's in the Army and they came one small hair of turning me totally against Cummins motors forever, BUT I sure lonve hearing that 300 in that R-model!

[@AppalachianRust]

@@lewiemcneely9143 yeah I’ve heard that they weren’t a very popular engine

[@lewiemcneely9143]

@@AppalachianRust I get disgusted even thinking about them.

[@Justifiedlife]

My home state...❤❤❤

[@rodneygrant7726]

Sounds like a Cat 1160/3208 in that scraper.

[@AppalachianRust]

V8 Cummins straight exhaust

[@rodneygrant7726]

@@AppalachianRust 903 or 555?

[@AppalachianRust]

@@rodneygrant7726 903

[@leroybullied7705]

Gotta love the old iron. Those teeth on the cutting edge is that a Fiat design or did someone mod that.

[@AppalachianRust]

I know my uncle did add the outside shanks and teeth. But as far as I know the ones in the center were factory.

[@poct3326]

cool!

[@Bozukoviy]

While reversing that scrapper sounds a bit like an old 1940s emd diesel locomotive.

[@slayer2261]

Drove nothing but R models years back, all with Mack 300’s or 350’s. Had a Roger’s tri-axle low boy as well. Glad I never had to use the gooseneck pony motor. What year is your Mack? Thinking it’s, 82-84.

[@AppalachianRust]

@@slayer2261 this truck’s actually an 86. It has a 300 with a 5 speed.

[@slayer2261]

@@AppalachianRust Tan interior, forgot it was used up to 86. Gray after that. Thank you.

[@gmaster4898]

блин. черт возьми. клевая у вас американцев техника.... эххх

[@t335er7]

i absolutely love the spot mirror just flapping in the breeze 😂

[@AppalachianRust]

@@t335er7 someone else mentioned that haha guess I know what I’ll be fixing soon lol

[@t335er7]

@@AppalachianRust Single stack Mack with a window in the back and a barking pipe, best truck ever made 👍 have fun with her

[@fourbanger]

I've got a running driving '56 model Mack B-81 fifth wheel winch truck you need. 5 speed main 4 speed Brownie power tower, rolling tail board, 220 N/A....

[@AppalachianRust]

@@fourbanger haha intriguing

[@timothyhorne3313]

that little spot mirror is hangin on aint it😂

[@AppalachianRust]

For dear life haha. You should have seen the mirrors on the dump truck before I started making videos..

[@bradleydass3075]

That fiat belonged in the brush when it was brand new.

[@fourbanger]

A Fat Alice....cool

[@AppalachianRust]

Yes sir

[@matthewkabanuk443]

What are the mechanicals on that R600? (Engine trans, suspension, etc)

[@AppalachianRust]

@@matthewkabanuk443 I need to start putting this in the description like I did for the AutoCar. It’s got a 300 with a five speed. 34,000 pound suspension with 3.87 gear ratio

[@vintagetruckgarage]

Sounds like a light built truck for local hauls, especially with that gear ratio. 300 is a strong engine.

[@AppalachianRust]

@@vintagetruckgarage yeah I might make a video on it sometime and talk about it a little more. But they joke about this truck because when they got it they got it cheap and it had been wrecked and it turned out to be one of the best trucks they’ve had. It just hasn’t given much trouble. It needs to tlc though

[@vintagetruckgarage]

@AppalachianRust same with ours. Is beat and has had major problems but it is the least problem truck. Starts everytime and does its job

[@fourbanger]

E Mack engines will pull their hearts out and give more....the variable valve timing I'm sure adds to its performance. I've got a W Model with a 300 and a 5 speed it always amazes me....

[@JayBee-zd7mr]

Brother, when ground guiding just tell the operator which way he needs to go with a simple point. Doing those tiny circles is a nightmare to see from the seat.

[@kimmorrison9169]

And what weight did we gross out at?

[@AppalachianRust]

Gross weight, we are good. It’s not tremendously heavy.

[@Васявасин-ш8щ]

Привет из России

[@AppalachianRust]

Howdy

[@geir.mathello]

What those who were in the bushes? I want to see video from when you moved those bushes, not from 06:35 Have a nice day Best regards from Norway

[@AppalachianRust]

@@geir.mathello so I was just showing that we have one as a parts machine.. Funny thing though after starting this job we blew a tire on the one in the video and I made a video of removing a tire from the one in the bushes to replace on the one we’re running. Check out the channel to find that video Thanks

[@ricardofranco2000]

BRASIL

[@carlachambers3771]

8v92?

[@AppalachianRust]

It’s a 903 Cummins V8

[@agray_lowboost]

Shoot im right over the mountain in waynesboro lol

[@AppalachianRust]

Howdy neighbor

[@agray_lowboost]

@@AppalachianRust love the channel keep up the great work man!

[@AppalachianRust]

@@agray_lowboost thank you

[@scottvaughan473]

I’ll Be dipped a KZbin channel close to Me. I’m Here in Providence Forge Virginia. But I haul to Lynchburg weekly

[@AppalachianRust]

@@scottvaughan473 nice! Hey, well I’m just like anyone else. But we have some much older equipment and I’ve had so many people say to me I should make videos so I started the channel.

[@avontaprice2]

why 🚫 get a used bigger or a longer used lowboy semi trailer so u can haul big heavy equipment???????🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 (like hauling that scraper for example)

[@AppalachianRust]

@@avontaprice2 I was waiting for this comment. we have one that needs a little work but we needed to get this job done. We plan to have it ready to move it away.

[@avontaprice2]

@@AppalachianRust so u got a bigger lowboy trailer then the one you have in this video???????🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@AppalachianRust]

@@avontaprice2 yep

[@avontaprice2]

@@AppalachianRust ok.

[@avontaprice2]

@@AppalachianRust can make a video of u using it????

[@heavydutyrepair64]

Them maxidyne engines & maxitorque transmissions areTOUGH

[@AppalachianRust]

Absolutely

[@Johnnie-tx5mp]

Run trucks like this daily they'll out last this overpriced crap any day

[@raginroadrunner]

The 903 Cummins is a mystery. It was good for over 1.000.000 miles and yet Cummins dropped it. Then 20 years later it reappears in the Armies Bradley fighting vehicle. Cummins is a poorly managed company. Im amazed they havent gone broke with some of the dumass things they have done.

[@AppalachianRust]

Interesting

[@Scott-ec4ux]

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[@AppalachianRust]

@@Scott-ec4ux I don’t have control over the types of ads, not sure how that works. I can place them in certain spots though out the video but they’ll be there regardless.

[@DWTAVey]

I appreciate Truck Drivers but man oh man, you are not right to be Driving a Truck, sorry but it is what it is.. Well myself I Love Driving a Truck so heck I Love it but you in my observation, no way in Hell you should be Driving a Truck..

[@AppalachianRust]

@@DWTAVey talks cheap

[@DWTAVey]

@@AppalachianRust Lol, Talk is Cheap huh

[@DWTAVey]

@@AppalachianRust You shouldn't be Driving a Truck..

[@brianholcomb6499]

So DOT is cool with no fenders or flaps down there 🤷🤷🤷🤷? Nice to see the old stuff running!

[@AppalachianRust]

No don’t get any trouble with that…. Just got stopped by dot. Check the recent video. Mind you it was a smaller machine haha.