MacOS 4k Monitor Performance Issues? Here's Why

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@motionfxes 3 ай бұрын

I have never experienced such a performance drop on a M1 Pro base model (14 core gpu) with 16gb of ram. I did a few tests in Final Cut Pro and DaVinci Resolve. The difference between running a 4k display at 1920p or 1440p equivalent was around 2 o 3% performance lost. Barely noticiable. So run your own tests to see if it's a problem or not based on the software you use, as it seems to be part of the problem.

@ilikefrogs525 3 ай бұрын

This whole video explains nothing. Did you do any tests? What else did you try except echoing the first thing that shows up on google? I have a very similar setup (but a lot weaker mac) and see none of these issues. Just came here to learn about possible scenarios where this issue may occur. Just seems like bad adobe software or misconfigurations.

@bikedan99 Ай бұрын

So true!

@hackintoshslovakia368 2 ай бұрын

in benchmark yes, in real work in FCP, PS, AI and SWIFT no observable differnece for me on Macbook Pro M1 pro 16" 16 GB RAM, 500 GB SSD between 2 years of using externall display DELL 2720Q 4K (scaling on 2560x1440) and 6 month of using my new APPLE STUDIO DISPLAY 27“ 5K RETINA , i have no interest about PPI difference untill i i find videos like this telling that CPU working on scaling :) so i try some benchmark and as i say yes 2-4 % worse on 4K so teoretically yes it's difference here, but again, in real work in FCP, PS, AI and SWIFT i don't see any difference, the same count of coffee working on 4K and 5K it's still 3 cup of coffe per day for me :) may be very long video editing could make some minutes difference, but what is 10 minutes in your day? just wake up morning 10 minutes sooner :) and remember that was the period in your life we all have black & white CRT monitors (or green or orange) and your CPU has 2 MHz :) that is what i mean under word DIFFERENCE !

@cyberlizardcouk Ай бұрын

Given the selling potential of the new Mac Mini m4 and the fact most people don’t already own a 5k monitor but many own a 4k, Apple should really offer improvement in fractional scaling.

@franciscodiaz5778 27 күн бұрын

They won't do it. It could help the competition, and even worst, it could help their own customers.

@brucesyvertsen2147 6 ай бұрын

Oddly I went from 2 LG 32 UN880s running at 4kx60hz (thinking they looked pretty good), to a 48" LG Oled, again running at 4k, 120Hz. I have noticed no real downside using the apps I normally used for work, just the bog standard Microsoft Excel, Word, Powerpoint, etc. Adobe DC Pro functions fine as well as a few specialty apps. I just bumped up the icon size and font size for those on the desktop and all's well. I did notice a small problem with the mouse cursor. At the default size setting, you could indeed lose the mouse on this size of screen and resolution. I bumped up the cursor size and did notice a little less accuracy. Just not enough to go back to a smaller cursor. After close to 2 years using this monitor, I wouldn't trade it. Yes the PPI isn't in the "good" range but I don't notice any downside. An added bonus is that most movies look better on my 4K OLED monitor than the 75" LG TV I also have in the room....

@kmtim6888 Ай бұрын

It depends on whether you want to scale to 1080p or 1440p. If to 1080p, then a 4k screen is suitable for you. Don’t be misled by the bad zone in that chart.

@DeepPocketCapitalism 2 ай бұрын

Oh for flip sake. Why does it have to be so complicated. All i want is to get the Mac mini m4 pro and to pair it with a 4K 27 inch display for 4k video editing, but all this stuff with the mac OS issues have me doing mental & mathematical gymnastics just to do something that should be simple. I'm on a budget, the computer itself already costs £1700

@jeradtech 2 ай бұрын

I agree, it's irritating.

@jodierizky- 2 ай бұрын

did you end up getting the mac mini?

@DeepPocketCapitalism 2 ай бұрын

@jodierizky- not yet, im waiting until january so i can watch peoples reviews on how it handles video editing & I'm still doing research on this screen stuff. I'm trynna get it right the first time, I don't want to have to be sending back screens

@AllenRowell 2 ай бұрын

Amen, brother! I’ve been lost in this rabbit hole for the last two days.

@kesado_ 2 ай бұрын

@@AllenRowelli am in this hole sine a year do you got new Information?

@SteveLo Ай бұрын

Same with windows this issue ,ex. 4k settings to 125% scale.

@mcmouse92 6 ай бұрын

This was super helpful. I was noticing some odd graphical hitches (M3 Pro MBP 14", 12 CPU cores, 18 GPU cores, 18gb ram) when using my external 3840x2160 32" display when the internal display wasn't showing the same issues. Thanks!

@markshirley01 Ай бұрын

Hi Ive just bought a M4 Mac Mini - have you tested your Mini yet as you mentioned in a comment below. Its 4 months since this review, I wonder could you advise as Im about to buy a Benq 4K 32 linch monitor designed for a Mac.

@cesvlc5211 Ай бұрын

I believe you didn’t enable Retina mode, because you say that when you choose 4K, you see everything super-tiny, but in fact it should be the other way around: everything should be larger than usual, because Retina is 200dpi and a 32’’ at 4K is less than 200dpi. I think you were using 4K in non-Retina mode.

@JAFOpty 2 ай бұрын

check out Teoh on Tech video on scaling: Fix for fuzzy text with MacOS UI scaling on external displays

@markshirley01 Ай бұрын

Thanks will do 👍🏻

@pixelturm Ай бұрын

Theoretically yes … practically not really noticeable

@littleshubunkin7926 5 күн бұрын

I have an Asus Proart PA279cv 4k 27” monitor and it works fine with my M4 Mac Mini scaled to 2560x1440. The Asus website advertises it as for Mac with the Mac logo.

@jeradtech 4 күн бұрын

I used an Asus ProArt PA279 in the past as well and it seemed to work well. I no longer have it to test on more modern Mac’s. I think the last Mac I used it on was M1.

@cerulyse 2 ай бұрын

My my 2014 Mac mini looks great on a 4K monitor it's slow as a dog though a slight lag on the UI is the least of my worries lol. No one in their right mind will pay apple's price for their monitor its the same cheap lcd technology as everyone else. Just get a couple of cheap 4K and let them do the upscaling

@cruztube23 2 ай бұрын

If I scale my 4K monitor to the default scale my MacBook suggests (1080p), do I still keep the sharpness (of that 4k capable monitor) when I'm designing?

@helgeopdal1452 16 күн бұрын

Yes, you will. You will have less room for an image in Lightroom, for example, since the menus take up more space, but the resolution of the image you edit will be 4k.

@marble_wraith 2 ай бұрын

Both Windows and linux can do fractional scaling... what's Apple's excuse?

@bikedan99 Ай бұрын

You're holding it wrong 🤣 My guess: All the engineering power goes into iOS and visionOS. Not too much love for Macs anymore.

@franciscodiaz5778 27 күн бұрын

Greed

@kiboo1212 5 ай бұрын

very informative, thank you

@jalalabdulaziz 4 ай бұрын

You get it right. Most people/reviewer say this is a non-issue are probably using they computer for what, spreadsheet? I just got my self 4K screen using scaled resolution and I notice there's sigfnificant performace drop especially when using GPU intensive apps such as After Effect, Photoshop, etc.

@StoicOutlaw17 4 ай бұрын

There's an app called better display that helps with this.

@attika70 3 ай бұрын

@@StoicOutlaw17yeah? How does it help? I tried. Many keep saying wha you just said. But none of them can explain how does it help

@motionfxes 3 ай бұрын

@@attika70I does not help at all. It was a great app when macos did not showed retina resolutions on some displays. But It never helped towards performance.

@joaoah 3 ай бұрын

The problem is not the scaling, but the fact that you are running bigger resolution. The impact will be the same if you compare a 5k to a 4k monitor performance.

@Agnoletta 2 ай бұрын

Music, in my case

@jodierizky- 2 ай бұрын

I was planning on buying the mac mini m4 base model thinking it may be powerful enough to handle the scaling issue, because my M1 13inch MBP suffered a performance lost from a 5k resolution (scaled from a 2560x1440 resolution monitor). I use Figma for work. To help with the workaround, I use the BetterDisplay app to disable the scaling But your statement regarding your fully decked out M3, the performance issue of the resolution scaling is still there. So I guess I wouldn't be buying the mac mini yet

@jeradtech 2 ай бұрын

I just received a base Mac Mini M4 and a full spec M4 Max MacBook Pro. I’ll test this again and if it’s no longer an issue I’ll make a new video about it.

@jodierizky- 2 ай бұрын

Cant wait for the update!

@markshirley01 Ай бұрын

Did you test it - I'm about to buy a M4 Mini @@jeradtech

@franciscodiaz5778 Ай бұрын

@@jeradtech Did you test it already? I'm about to buy a M4 Mini