Why i returned? My 4K monitor with a 5K?

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@MrMahdy 10 ай бұрын

NOTE: You can use this website www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/technology/ppi-calculator.php to calculate the PPI for any monitor by entering your monitor resolution and monitor diameter as an example a 5K monitor 27 inch 5120X2880 will give you a 217.57 PPI (exactly in the safe zone 220PPI for a Retina display 1440p after scaling as APPLE recommendation)

@michaelkhalsa 8 ай бұрын

Actually, i use dual 27 inch 4k monitors with an m3 max macbook. I also use this with windows for development environme reqyiring it. It is fine. Not 5k, but still very usable, and I would think much better than getting low resolution monitors. Apple uses bicubic scalling for fonts, icons, etc., when not vector based. However for images, it will not make any difference. It is text, bitmapped icons, and scrolling through some kinds on content where it makes a difference. Apple could, if they wanted to, add the bitmaps to support the very common 27inch 4k, and add alternative scaling approaches, but chooses not to. What i would love, is if they update the studio display and find it in their hearts to reduce the price even a few hundred for at least for the vesa mount. Maybe a budget version withot speakers, microphone, and 999, but with all the apple quality. Also, with default option to use their current standard for color space, plus a selectable wider gamut native for photography. Otherwise, please start supporting 4k properly. It takes some engineering, but nothing astronomical.

@Raywaan.mohameed 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for this information❤😊

@hamiltonb.8468 4 ай бұрын

This chart primarily refers to how efficiently macOS handles scaling. It’s more about the technical effort macOS has to do behind the scenes rather than the actual sharpness and clarity of the visual result you experience. A higher ppi like 163 does mean the mac has to use fractional scaling but it should still give you increased benefits in clear and sharper text than say a 109 ppi display. Thanks for the video.

@SXZ-dev 2 ай бұрын

It's not fractional scaling if you run the display at 1080p, a 4K display running at 1080p is the same for MacOS as a 5K display running at 1440p, it's halved resolution. The only thing apple can't handle is trying to run a 4K display at weird middle-of-the-road resolutions like 1440p which is somewhere in between native and halved. But for the overwhelming majority of people you can run any 4K display at 1080p and have full retina graphics, and 1080p is what most of the world is used to anyways so it's not a big deal

@RaywaanMohamed 10 ай бұрын

Wow...thank you for the information 😃

@SXZ-dev 2 ай бұрын

The image is just as crisp if you use the 4k display at 1080p, this needs to be reinforced because a lot of people are getting the wrong impression and buying 2k displays for no reason. Any 4K display WILL look more crisp on macos than a 2k display, the issue SOME people have is that the 1080p resolution needed to run retina graphics on a 4K display is too large for them. They prefer the look of Native 2K, perhaps because they were used to 1440p displays beforehand, but to get Retina with 2K resolutions on MacOS you need a 5K display, that's the issue people have. FFS don't buy a 2K display and don't splurge on a studio display if you don't really need the extra space, the image will not be any more crisp than it is on a 4K display running at 1080p. Only do it if the scaling at 1080p really feels too large for you The scaling issue is simply that "Retina" graphics need 2x as many pixels as your display can handle so to get Retina graphics you need to halve the native resolution of your display and tell MacOS to run at that halved resolution, MacOS calls this "HiDPI mode" but it looks fundamentally the same on a 5k display running at 1440p as it would on a 4k display running at 1080p the only difference is at 1440p there's more screen real-estate

@freecourseplatformenglish2829 Ай бұрын

Absolutely, you someup everything beautifully if you like fhd scaling on 27inch 4k display then buy it else go with 2k and run it natively without any scaling.

@zachywacky1 19 күн бұрын

Also, like, the scaled 1440p option on 4k doesn't look bad at all, and the performance hit is negligible in most cases. Comparing to 5k you compromise on slight crispness and a bit of artifacting, and comparing to 1440p you compromise on artifacting a bit?? But you notice the pixel grid of 1440p far more than you would ever notice the artifacting of 4k

@pasqualeconvertini4083 3 күн бұрын

exactly this! I actually moved from my 2k monitor to a 4k one to get crispier image. If you buy a 2k monitor and connect to your mac, you'll find out that the image is not as crispy as it would be on the 2k. It's much better having a 4k monitor with 2k scaled resolution instead of a 2k monitor with a not scaled 2k resolution.

@freecourseplatformenglish2829 2 күн бұрын

Update: I recently purchased a 2k monitor and use it at native resolution. The quality is definitely not good because the PPI is 110, while my MacBook has a PPI of 220. My problem with 4 K is that I like the screen space on a 2 K monitor. At 1080p, you can't open two windows side by side. Best solution: Right now, the best solution is a 5k display, but unfortunately, it's not widely available, and a Studio display is too expensive.

@zachywacky1 2 күн бұрын

@@freecourseplatformenglish2829 have you tried scaling the 4k monitor to 1440p, and comparing it to how the 1440p monitor looks?

@nasmith67 10 ай бұрын

@MrMahdy thanks for this information. Where did you find the graphic showing Retina PPI sweet spots?

@MrMahdy 10 ай бұрын

@pythonantole9892 10 ай бұрын

Oh no. I just ordered a 16in 2K monitor:2560 by 1600 to use as an external monitor with my M1 Air. Does it mean it will not work?

@MrMahdy 10 ай бұрын

Hello, how are you doing? You definitely must return it back. I suggest buying a 27 inch 1440 P you will end up at 110 PPI non retina or buy a 34 inch 1440 P you will also end at 110 PPI as a non retina display or you can take my choice and buy a 27 inch 5K 5120×2880 after a scaling will be 1440p and you will end at Reina display 220p super crisp and sharp I wish you found this helpful

@MrMahdy 10 ай бұрын

@cirozorro 5 ай бұрын

Solid video and good to understand, Apple really did figure out optimum PPI way ahead of the curve, this mirrors my experience. I personally found 4k @ 27" unworkable, at the same time 1080P is too enlarged on 27". 1440p is the sweet spot at 27" and double the scaling to 5k (5120x2880). I hope for high refresh displays to grace this space in the future. Mac or Windows I would agree and avoid 4K(same with ultra-wides, but sometimes you have to experience it to believe it)...

@MrMahdy 5 ай бұрын

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@thrash1337 2 ай бұрын

Gotta warn people not to get a native 1440p monitor for MacOS though. It's pretty much the worst of both worlds. It's better to get a 4K display and downscale from 5K (which MacOS does automatically). There are workarounds but it's not great.

@NoNameToHave 4 ай бұрын

Macbook Pro supports the original 4k resolution when set to 1080p. Just check the system report to find the best combination.

@larryphelps66 9 ай бұрын

I went with the new Dell 2725DS 27" 2560x1440. Ditched the HDMI cord and went with thunderbolt to DisplayPort.

@MrMahdy 9 ай бұрын

Very good, but I prefer you check the website above for the correct calculations and as I can see, this is a 110 PPI

@bharat5194 2 ай бұрын

Detailed video. Thanks for sharing. Sadly, in the end, you opted for a Studio display replica which isn't half as good as the original. Can't blame you though when it's all a part of Apple's arm twisting my way or the high way product strategy.

@jamesskyway6746 Ай бұрын

I am using a Dell U2723QE 4K monitor on a M4 mini pro and have no issues. Looks just as good as an Apple Studio display to me. Plus the Dell is one third the cost. I am running the Dell at 2560x1440. I tried a Studio Display but I returned it. I also compared the screen to my MacBook Air M2 and the Dell looks just as good.

@piotrrosi8200 24 күн бұрын

Can You chose this resolution 1440 on your m4?

@jamesskyway6746 24 күн бұрын

@@piotrrosi8200 not sure I understand the question. As I stated I am running the Mac mini M4 pro on the 4K Dell at 2560x1440, same resolution the Apple Studio would be at.

@piotrrosi8200 20 күн бұрын

@@jamesskyway6746 thats mean You using default resolution 1440 and its good option?

@johnscott5105 7 ай бұрын

Same issues for me running a 4K Dell 27" monitor. Apple seems to default to a looks like 1920 x 1080 scale which is 2x scale which is Integer scaling and is the best option for sharpness. But in reality I prefer 2560 x 1440 looks like scale but ends up less crisp because it is a non-integer scale. Splitting up pixels is not possible, you always want a scale factor of x1,x2,x3. Smart to buy a 1440 monitor where you can use 100% or x1 scaling so no problems dealing with scaling.

@motionfxes 3 ай бұрын

A 4k display remains sharper. I have had both and I much prefer 4k.

@freecourseplatformenglish2829 Ай бұрын

@@motionfxes you are right real performance hit is on graphic intense task. What is your preferred scaling?

@motionfxes Ай бұрын

@@freecourseplatformenglish2829 Have you done any testing to see how much performance impact you get? Because I have done tests with Final Cut Pro and DaVinci Resolve and in both cases the performance impact is 2-3%. I run mine at 2560x1440 equivalent.

@joseestupinan4484 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for this detailed video. IK have been looking for a monitor for the last 2 weeks and nothing. Is there no Monitor for MAc and Gamming all in one? something with high PPI and high refresh rate?

@anastacioiii4047 7 ай бұрын

A 4K monitor scaling down to 1440 is a whole lot better than a native 1440k monitor.

@MrMahdy 7 ай бұрын

1440 p is best for mac

@jasras5003 6 ай бұрын

@@MrMahdy What are your thoughts on a 4k monitor scaled down to 1440p?

@alperkocatas2353 4 ай бұрын

@@jasras5003i used it for the last 4 years. Not as sharp as 5k scaled to 1440, but it is waaaaaaay better than native 1440p

@jasras5003 4 ай бұрын

@@alperkocatas2353 I ended buying a 27" 4k LG monitor and scale it down to 1080p. Looks great. Glad I didn't go the native 1440p route for office work but get why some do. 5k scaled to 1440p is the goal.

@alperkocatas2353 4 ай бұрын

@@jasras5003 Yes, I also thought that I would just spend this transition period using my LG 4k 27 inch monitor, but apparently, that transition is happening veeery slowly. We still do not see any 27 inch 5k monitors other than Apple's and Samsung's. Come on LG, you can do it !!! (I am not counting ultrafine 5k as an option, since it's still too expensive and hard to find)

@MarksZeen 5 ай бұрын

What's wrong with the Mac mini m1? Can I buy a 4k monitor without worrying or should I buy a 2k monitor?

@MrMahdy 5 ай бұрын

First thank you for subscribing buy a 2k monitor instead

@Body-rb7pd 10 ай бұрын

Good ❤and thanks ❤

@selimkamar9544 5 ай бұрын

Yeah i have been through this and yeah s9 view infinity is the best for mac just bought it couple of months ago

@MrMahdy 5 ай бұрын

@@selimkamar9544 Thank you for being a subscriber and you are right you comment If you need anything else

@grzegorzkacperski2471 8 ай бұрын

Hi! What will be better for choose for begginner photographer to use with Mac M1 mini? Used Benq sw270c 1440p with adobe rgb 109 PPI Or Benq PD3220U 4k 140 PPI?

@MrMahdy 8 ай бұрын

This is absolutely fine

@grzegorzkacperski2471 8 ай бұрын

@@MrMahdy but I don't know which wiill be better 🙈

@grzegorzkacperski2471 8 ай бұрын

@@MrMahdy Pd3220U has got 196 PPI

@MrMahdy 8 ай бұрын

@@grzegorzkacperski2471 NEVER use a 4K under any circumstances.

@ishkool8664 4 ай бұрын

I recently brought a 27inch 2K monitor and had to upscale/downscale using the app betterdisplay, mac scaling is a nightmare

@yohanespradono5224 4 ай бұрын

what resolution are you using now? do you get good text?

@motionfxes 3 ай бұрын

You are not supposed to use a scaled resolution with a 2,5k 27" display.

@samitharasanjana 8 ай бұрын

Hi Mahdy.. Did u experience any Kernel crashes while using the S9 with the Apple silicon Mac? I have seen that mentioned in many places. I'm also considering to buy the same monitor and seeing about this issue made me worry. Thanks for the very informative explanation.

@MrMahdy 8 ай бұрын

This monitor works flawlessly with Mac , With no issues if you have the opportunity to choose one the Apple or the S9 Go for the Samsung S9 you will never regret.

@samitharasanjana 8 ай бұрын

@@MrMahdy Thanks for the reply. One last question. Is the difference between a 5K and a scaled 4K drastically visible with a 27-inch monitor? I'm from Australia and managed to find a great deal from Samsung for around US$880 (A$1330) where the retail price is A$2300. My next option is the Dell U2723QE (27-inch 4K) which is around A$600. Do you think the $700 difference is worth it in the long run? Appreciate your view on this matter.

@MrMahdy 8 ай бұрын

@@samitharasanjana Forget about any 4K monitor with Mac. You must rewatch my video again 27 Inch 5K 220 PPI Retina Display in the safe ZONE.

@samitharasanjana 8 ай бұрын

@@MrMahdy I just placed an order to secure the great deal. Thank you for the detailed explanation.

@MrMahdy 8 ай бұрын

@@samitharasanjana any time brother

@zachywacky1 19 күн бұрын

Wait, seriously, it destroyed your performance on M3 max? I can do a blender test on my base M1 macbook pro and it barely changes from the scaled resolution on my 4k monitor to just using my monitor's screen. (talking like a 2% difference) How does it affect your performance so much on your much more powerful machine? Also, like, you can just switch to the unscaled resolution when doing demanding tasks. Most of the time when you are, the UI isn't being actively used anyway. Idk, I had a 27 inch 1440p imac and a 28 inch 4k monitor and the 4k monitor looks leagues better when scaled. Not even close lol

@zachywacky1 19 күн бұрын

I do appreciate the detailed video about scaling and why 5k is best for Mac btw. I'm not trying to spread negativity or anything, and I really like your set design and editing :)

@neamaabobakr2160 10 ай бұрын

I was lost and really thank you for this wonderful explanation 🎉 I well sell my 4K AND CALCULATE MY NEW DISPLAY❤❤❤

@yaryank 9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the video! Everything is perfectly understandable! But did I understand correctly, you chose the Samsung for $1800 over the MacStudio, which costs about the same? What's the logic?

@MrMahdy 9 ай бұрын

Samsung's displays often have higher resolution, higher contrast ratio, better high dynamic range If you compare them both side-by-side you will notice the difference anytime bro.

@airpoint9715 4 ай бұрын

@@MrMahdy nah bro - I thought your vid was insightful but in the end you've undermined it with such decision lol. Makes no sense - nothing integrates better with Apple than Apple devices, screens included

@grigoriyb 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video. What about MB Pro 14" M2 Pro?

@MrMahdy 3 ай бұрын

You are more than welcome brother i can't understand you're question

@grigoriyb 3 ай бұрын

@@MrMahdy Resolution of this MacBook's display is 3024x1964 (254 PPI). Or I don't understand?

@zachywacky1 19 күн бұрын

@@grigoriyb since the macbook's screen is closer to your face, the added ppi means it can fit more on the screen without scaling, and the UI won't be too small. Previous Retina macbooks would have 220ppi, but use a scaled resolution by default to fit slightly more on screen, similar to 1440p scaling on a 4k monitor.

@annamarialocurtodesign 8 ай бұрын

A monitor with 3840x2160px with 28inch has 157, 35ppi is good for Mac mini??

@MrMahdy 8 ай бұрын

No its in the Bad zone double check my video again.

@يوسفمهدى-ق6ش 10 ай бұрын

Very good

@georgepayne9506 9 ай бұрын

Hi I have a 27 1440 monitor but I find the text very small then the hipdi option from Apple looks very zoomed in! Any help with this will be much appreciated

@MrMahdy 9 ай бұрын

Hello reply with the display spec or model number bro

@georgepayne9506 9 ай бұрын

@@MrMahdy AOC Q27G2U/BK Quad HD 27" VA Gaming Monitor thanks so much

@MrMahdy 9 ай бұрын

It's absolutely fine. It's considered as a 110 PPI non-retina, and it is in the safe zone just go the Apple logo on youre mac in the upper left hand and go to settings and type display and the choose (default)

@georgepayne9506 9 ай бұрын

Thanks it’s just the text look a bit small I can use the hidpi but it looks a bit zoomed in! Something in between would be perfect haha have you used any apps that scale? Switch res for example

@MrMahdy 9 ай бұрын

@@georgepayne9506 No just set you're mac display to default.

@PhilipDSouza 9 ай бұрын

This is tough to understand ! Thanks for the video though; I was just looking at 4k monitors for my Mac (would have been screwed up) Without the math, I guess what it means: A 27 inch monitor 1440p or 5k display is good... Not a 4k display Thanks !

@MrMahdy 9 ай бұрын

any time brother

@carlosduran5460 8 ай бұрын

TLDR: Mac is stupid and only supports well the the original or the half. 27" 4K: too small or too big (1080p) 27" 1440p: good 27 5k: good for M-Pro but it's expensive.

@airpoint9715 4 ай бұрын

You're stupid lol

@annamarialocurtodesign 8 ай бұрын

So 4k is not good??

@MrMahdy 8 ай бұрын

Forget about 4k with mac.

@annamarialocurtodesign 8 ай бұрын

@@MrMahdy and if it has 1440px?

@MrMahdy 8 ай бұрын

@@annamarialocurtodesign I prefer if you double check the video again so you can understand the difference between 110 PPI and 220 PPI and what is the resolution 1440 P.

@annamarialocurtodesign 8 ай бұрын

@@MrMahdy I don't understand spoken English. I'm Italian! Can you write?

@MrMahdy 8 ай бұрын

@@annamarialocurtodesign go for a 27 inch monitor 1440P its a 110 ppi in the safe zone or go for a 27 inch 5k 2880P 220 ppi in the safe zone best regard.