Macro, this was a great and wonderful walkthrough of how we could dive deep into theory-crafting and understand the pathing and selection of boards. I really appreciate you taking the time to go through the pathing decisions, especially the shot where you showed pathing through boards and ended up with 35 points to spend, it really showed the priorities and how to think about how to spend your points. Very well done!!!! Rather than see this for each class, I'd love to see a Part 2 where you dive a bit deeper with one build, say Bone Spirit. I can imagine starting with a blank slate and asking - which glyphs do we want in this build and figuring out a priority for which to include/ignore, then same with the legendary nodes. The math of whether it's better to include more legendary nodes vs. glyphs is the hard part for me to grok, as you do sometimes see boards with only 6 glyphs and more legendary nodes.
@92up75 ай бұрын
OMG! This is great. This is a video that could have saved me like 20 hours. Even though I consider myself well understanding when it comes to necro paragon boards there are still a few things I learned. I also realized that boards have an efficiency depending on if a glyph needs int or will or dex as well as the order the boards are in and I knew this well but I never took the time learn what was what and I thought it would only benefit maybe 10 points but I now see I was wrong. Thank you for you work.
@mattywork41745 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. The paragon board's concept is simple enough to understand but the efficiency was a struggle with my limited play time available. Trying to balance glyph to board order, trying to get the double rare buff. Plus I didn't realize the damage nodes were additive so I thought they had more value. While copying a build can be nice, I've found that either through a lack of gear luck, glyph levels, or simply a play style preference needing to tweak affixes and paragon to be able to enjoy a character. I very much appreciate the knowledge to better use the paragon system and be able to build my own character. Plus I've always enjoyed finding a way to make something that isn't the meta efficient enough to surprise people.
@GamerGrampz5 ай бұрын
This so far is definitely an underappreciated diamond in the rough. An absolute gem of a d4 KZbin video! Thanks for taking the time to explain some of this shit... I recently created my first paragon board for a build that was significantly different than something I saw on Maxroll etc... this helps, but honestly I wish somebody smarter than me could figure things out to fully take advantage of a variation of a build that nobody has pushed to its full potential yet
@Mykahnhine5 ай бұрын
That would be amazing for each class
@tyleralane5 ай бұрын
agreed!
@bipolargods5095 ай бұрын
Agreed
@tlynx1005 ай бұрын
Would love that!
@sommm5 ай бұрын
Absolutely yes pls!
@tommythunder74985 ай бұрын
The man the myth the Excel Legend MacroBioBoi! This should have been the in game guide for this core feature!! We really need this adapted for every class!! I am so happy for you that you got to test the new Class! Will it be a class that would make you not play Necromancer for a while ? Be safe and take care, if we loose you the D4 world would be in a sad sad place! And in general you are a great human being !!
@MacroBioBoi5 ай бұрын
Nothing will take me from the Necro but I intend on playing a lot of the spiritborn
@JasonTaylor-fg1btАй бұрын
I appreciate how you go in depth more than most and at same time making it more understandable and with me being a necromancer character all your content is very welcome thanks
@Stefiou9744 ай бұрын
I always use your "Paragon glyph socket table" sheet trying to theorycraft my own builds. But needless to say, my boards pathing was bad ^^'. Finally got the time to watch this video, and this is exactly what I needed to improve ! Extremely precise and well made ! I would love to see similar sheet for the other classes. Thank you for sharing your knowledge !
@D9_R7_5 ай бұрын
This is dope. Looking forward to not looking at build guides for spirit born on launch. I feel like youve given us all the tools to make a maxroll guide ourselves.
@goldensamurai5 ай бұрын
Thank you again for a very helpful video! I’ll be saving this for future reference. I’m yet to use a planner, but after your brief tips on its use, I’ll give it a go on the weekend 🙂 Looking forward to seeing more insightful sharing from your good self 🙌🏻
@DemonEyes235 ай бұрын
I'm definitely just going to keep copying your build. But thanks for the lesson 😅.
@wilpaulk63035 ай бұрын
😂
@RakuraiZero4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, having some rules of thumb really helps take some complexity out of designing my own build.
@timwoo71065 ай бұрын
Cheering loudly for the data charts!!! Thank you for your content it has helped me be more efficient in my builds and helped immensly.
@marcoppenheimer64325 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@MacroBioBoi5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@ethanh95435 ай бұрын
this is a great educational video. i suggest adding a worked example demonstrating ur thought process on for instance how u follow/break ur rules, how u compromise one choice over another. i suggest using overpower bone spirit with minions, 1 min roll armor affix, no all res affix, min roll int affixes (if any). amplify, corporeal, deadraiser, dominate, essence, exploit, maybe control; bone graft, blood bath, scent of death, flesheater on whatever boards that optimize this setup. these requirements maybe difficult but this is the nature of optimizing. that's why some people's builds are underperforming.
@edwardbailey17435 ай бұрын
I’m not really a necro main but this video and your newer one about specifically necro paragon are very helpful. Many thanks
@z3n71n3l5 ай бұрын
Learned so much. Thank you. I am one of those players who refuse to watch ultimate build content. I want to learn and figure out rather than copy.
@jf28495 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why we have caps. We should be able to play any build we want this includes a tank and we shouldn’t have to stack life to do so . Why can’t we increase armor as well ? The ideal tank would have a ton of life, armor, resistances, and dmg reduction.
@tasandmnm695 ай бұрын
This is amazing content, thank you. I am a Druid main and we have some great creators like Ace but we dont have anyone that actually goes into detail breaking stuff down like this. I would gladly pay you to do this for Druids 😂 I am using Stormslide build with only 5 glyphs but 4 legendary nodes and having the tools for Druid that you habe put out there for Necros would be beyond amazing.
@steaks145 ай бұрын
Single handed, the best video for all theory crafters wannabe like me! Good work as always
@BobMotster5 ай бұрын
To me, it's tragic that in 2024 Diablo is still a game of multipliers. I think that such an approach to accumulating power in an ARPG makes it sterile and emotionless. When I play an ARPG, I want to reinforce the fantasy for a character through skills, mechanics, lore. Systems like the paragon board should be yet another tool to help us reach that goal. If I were to change the paragon system, I would move the skill modifiers we had in Diablo III there. Let me transform my skills by choosing one path on the board or another. Let me pursue my fantasy and evolve it rather than seek the best mathematical formula to optimize the multipliers.
@XIIILostSoul5 ай бұрын
Appreciate the insight, enjoy looking at all the builds on maxroll but still like to try making my own builds. Great video!
@wacopiper5 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Really explains things to us laymen. Thank you Mac.
@nic_chain3 ай бұрын
Great stuff thx! Hope this gets a season 6 / VoH update!
@dk314-countryboy5 ай бұрын
This was really good. Thank you.
@MacroBioBoi5 ай бұрын
Np fam
@GamerGrampz4 ай бұрын
Just a follow up comment... yeah, after watching this front to back I redid the original paragon setup I had and ended up grabbing an extra legendary power and a 7th glyph for my rabies shred build for s5 :)
@Fred-ug2vz5 ай бұрын
Great vid but i dont understand the last example you showed when flipping the board. From top to bottom (or bottom to top) you spent the same amount of points.
@paolodb75715 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Your contents are always very, very interesting (I'm sorry for my bad english)
@ShaneBuchman5 ай бұрын
I found it funny so many people were like "POE destroyed D4" because they are comparing a class reveal to a expansion reveal, when the expansion reveal is next month lol
@TrueGoalkeeer5 ай бұрын
but poe revealed season update, it's completely free and feels like amount of content compares with entire d4 game
@activoDS5 ай бұрын
stop, its ok. poe is the better game, that doesnt mean people cant play both.
@TrueGoalkeeer5 ай бұрын
@@activoDS I play both. Just want d4 be better than its now
@DarkWidget4 ай бұрын
Well, if it makes you feel better, poe players are migrating to d4 due to the issues the game has.
@keenanharris24965 ай бұрын
This was extremely insightful, would you be able to share what the rest of the Excel sheet categories were?
@Avarilyn5 ай бұрын
Great video Mac, well done!
@gMRibcage5 ай бұрын
Other classes please! This was great
@yixuanwang37745 ай бұрын
please do this for Druid
@chrisbenson985 ай бұрын
I’d be interested in a Sorc explanation. I have a pretty efficient build, but still had to put topaz in most of my gear to build up intelligence to meet caps.
@chrisbenson985 ай бұрын
I’m also aware that most of this will likely change with the expansion, but will likely still apply.
@stackingcoins43044 ай бұрын
Greatest ever! Thumbs up/shared let's go
@duckie-dragon16745 ай бұрын
hell yeah homie keep it up
@yeetcannon16935 ай бұрын
Can Macro just be the class dev. Please.
@NautDiver6 күн бұрын
Detail. Detail. Detail. By all means😎
@Peter_Parker695 ай бұрын
Perfect, just what I needed after your damage guide! Do you think the new paragon system for s5 will change these principles by the way?
@MacroBioBoi5 ай бұрын
Perhaps, and if they do, I'll make a new video once I feel confident about my approach in that system.
@Peter_Parker695 ай бұрын
@@MacroBioBoi Thanks a lot! Appreciate your lessons
@hunterstrong33185 ай бұрын
Bone prison seems to be not counting as minions atleasr in regards to deathspeaker pendant for me.
@chris.w3915 ай бұрын
Gosh, the is so valuable, thanks!
@MultiSubspace5 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, Sir!
@kapiteinlulhaas76125 ай бұрын
What i would be very interested in learning is when do you choose one stat over an other. For example you talked about a bone spirit build using overpower to deal damage. How does a player who wants to build their own build knows to focus on overpower? The game doesnt tell you? Then later you were talking about intelligence being way more valuable than willpower which would boost overpower damage. How can a non-content creator player arrive at that conclusion absent of someone at maxroll telling him?
@MacroBioBoi5 ай бұрын
The answer is doing the math. I have a damage calculation breakdown video that could add to your knowledge on this subject.
@Peter_Parker695 ай бұрын
Also, why does theorycrafters stack so much crit damage%? Wouldn't regular damage% do the same?
@MacroBioBoi5 ай бұрын
Depends on the build, but with 100% chance to crit, the crit damage value on gear and tempers is always a larger number than generic damage.
@Elbreth795 ай бұрын
So, I was told to level glyphs up to 21. Is that not correct?
@Orthus1005 ай бұрын
It's not wrong, it's just not crazy valuable in many cases so if you really hate dungeons you can skip it if you aren't going to be pushing the hardest Pit.
@Irburnt5 ай бұрын
My favorite d4 build is a lightning druid. I just sit back cast and stay alive. None of that shape shifting stuff.
@justdust90895 ай бұрын
amazing video, but u did made a small little mistake :D when explaining tip 5, the wp node up is of less important then the int left of the glyph, and they are either way the same points. ie left int then up take the uncommon, and proceed to path left and take the rare on the way. You took wp up then rare etc. But i do it basicly just the same, with all these little tips in the back of my mind.
@charleswatts18645 ай бұрын
Why did Bliz provide magic (blue) and rare (yellow) glyphs if there is no reason to use them due to a legendary always being better?
@MacroBioBoi5 ай бұрын
There are not currently any legendary glyphs in the game.
@andyg68Ай бұрын
For gods sake… do a rogue one!
@NeillSmith5 ай бұрын
So many content creators not following the rule of 5 out there. You hate to see it.
@MacroBioBoi5 ай бұрын
Rip
@danieldanieletto77344 ай бұрын
👌🏻
@tonynguyen41365 ай бұрын
This will be great for every class.......... After the Expansion. I don't think you should spend time on this for season 5 when Season 6 is going to obliterate the systems with almost 100% certainty
@Winterhe4rt5 ай бұрын
Wait - there are +life nodes on paragon boards? - a Sorc Player xD
@MacroBioBoi5 ай бұрын
Sorc can't complain. Every other rare node says damage reduction which is significantly more valuable.
@infectedmethod5 ай бұрын
WTH is a Grock?
@MacroBioBoi5 ай бұрын
To grock something is to understand it.
@infectedmethod5 ай бұрын
@@MacroBioBoi OOhhh, I grock you now.
@MacroBioBoi5 ай бұрын
@@infectedmethod GG!
@mackdog32705 ай бұрын
Yeah, max life can make up for deficiency elsewhere.
@luckyirishlad20115 ай бұрын
lizzard: "Hey guys, Season 5 is a TON of work. We had to recolor Hell Tides AGAIN! The color theory and consultants we needed to make it a slightly deeper shade of red would blow your mind."
@NautDiver6 күн бұрын
[Post video comment] This helped immensely. Going to start fresh and path using these parameters. Thank you😎 [Edit: The difference is this: walking thru easiest world tier then going to Torment 1was a huge jump. Survival just in the open world was a struggle. After respec: Walking thru T1 without really the need to pay attention. Freezing and complete annihilation of everything.] Rogue DoK. Used your amulet trick for Star Shard. Thanks🫡 Just started playing 3 weeks ago.