To Feel The Pain of Frida Kahlo (Part 1)

[@loreelaiii]

Between Kahlo's own father proposing to her mother while his ex wife's body was still warm, and how much she likely loved Diego, she probably had an extremely skewed view of what 'love' meant in a relationship. Frida deserved so much better...

[@teebradley2078]

And after her accident specifically

[@Robbie2121]

What a stupid name

[@c2e.7877]

THIS! I literally never seen that being brought up, like dude literally married another woman the same day his wife died in childbirth, and send away this kids. I don't need to know much more abt her father, he's horrible. And to add that she was aware that her parents marriage wasn't filled with love whatsoever.

[@cocoaswann2095]

"My painting carries with it the message of pain.” - Frida Kahlo "I hope the exit is joyful and i hope never to return” - Frida Kahlo

[@ms.gretchencole1990]

Like Freida Payne. ❤

[@Gleamorous]

The bottom quote is one of my favorites! I tried using it for my senior quote, but it was declined for obvious reasons! 😂

[@jaclynrodrigues7289]

God bless you and your kind words and such a beautiful quote, so thankful for having found this strong and proud and talented soul such a beautiful person

[@smidgen]

i have an interpretation of frida's "the wounded deer" tattooed on me a couple years back. she painted it to express her chronic pain, but to me it represented recovering from self-harm. lovely exploration, i cannot wait to watch both parts

[@JustSomeBridgeTroll333]

As a queer artist living with mental illness, Frida Kahlo’s work always spoke to me. Her tragic life also got me to funnel my own pain into my art. I’m beyond excited to see your series on her.

[@seeshure1545]

Yeah it's just so terrible how people treat queers today, like some people think it's kind of weird and that's just horrible. You're such a tortured soul.

[@Dianeediegoo]

She wasn’t just queer, she was proudly Mexican, dressing traditional clothing. Her Identity was always Mexican panting her struggle with infertility due to her accident. Her queerness wasn’t her reason for panting, her Mexicaness was

[@BasileosHerodou]

​@@seeshure1545today? You ungrateful swine back then they'd just get shot or worse you can't say that these are some monstrous conditions

[@444angelina]

@@seeshure1545 you lack psychological skills surrounding empathy. it’s evident in your comments on this topic.

[@seeshure1545]

@@444angelina Ah yes indeed, for what is the soul of a human if it does not harbor empathy for all walks of life? I argue that is the very basis of our soul and without having such compassion for others we simply become beasts wearing a human facade. Im so intelligent and deep. I don't think a 14 year old who likes to draw furry art and became queer because everyone else is, rebelling against our parents stage is very troubled. I think they're 14.

[@katelyn4358]

I genuinely think Frida was groomed. She was sixteen when they met, if I'm remembering correctly. Her devotion to Diego - well, I've experienced something similar with a significantly older man. It took a lot of therapy to get me to realize that fifteen years is...too much for a sixteen year old. At that age, it's easy to drown in another person, especially if you're chronically ill and they can stomach it. If you're separated from your peers through trauma, it's difficult to be young. You're grown but not grown. You're smart but not smart. You're a teenager whose body can't keep up with that fact. It's a tragedy that she met that man, though the art her love produced is stellar.

[@seeshure1545]

She was abused by a female teacher going through an influential time in any young persons life, puberty. The blame cant only be placed on Diego. He took advantage of a traumatized young confused girl, he has a special place in hell, but why do people see her as some queer symbol when she probably only gravitated towards him and pushed away from her femininity because of what that woman did to her? What better way to make sure another lesbian doesn't sexually assault you than to become the very thing they aren't attracted to, masculine. She was abused, and abused again, I hope she found some peace in her life.

[@Hippidippimahm]

@@seeshure1545lesbians are attracted to masculine women all the time. Frida clearly had a complex sexual orientation and gender identity neither of which we’ll ever truly understand.

[@seeshure1545]

@@Hippidippimahm Lesbians are attracted to masculine women all the time, you're right. My point is that Frida was abused as a young feminine girl, and I believe as a result she fought back and protected herself by trying to be strong and masculine to make sure it never happened again. No one will ever fully understand someones true identity, especially when it comes to sexuality. What we can understand is that she was abused, traumatized, confused and probably ashamed. It wasn't a normal thing to be gay back then, in all reality it's not normal. That's how she became a "queer icon". I wonder if that event never happened, how would things of turned out, would she even be mentioned?

[@snailart14]

​​​@@seeshure1545ehhhhh being gay wasn't that taboo, like it was but in certain places and certain circles it was actually pretty normal - a lot of artists of that time were just as sexually fluid as Frida. I'm not saying she wasn't confused but she was running in a very queer crowd. We just have to be careful, I'm sure that abuse had an impact on her as a person because of COURSE it would; but getting abused doesn't make you a queer, like let's not get regressive here. Being abused makes you more likely to continue getting abused no matter your sexuality or identity, that's for certain. And lesbians definitely aren't all attracted to masculine women, some are specifically only interested in feminine women (femme for femme relationships where both women present very traditionally feminine are common). Being gay isn't a reflection of heterosexual relationships it's being gay lol.

[@BCBrownBooks]

@seeshure1545 @@snailart14 Thank you for pointing out that being abused, even at a young age, doesn't make someone queer. Yes, Frida was abused by a woman; yet she went on to have both male and female lovers frequently. She also clearly questioned the social constraints of both men & women in her experimentation with portraying both roles & also being raised & encouraged to basically be both a daughter & a son. Lastly, on the subject on queerness, we have always been around & in the same numbers. The difference between now & before now is society's acceptance of us so that we can openly be gay, be trans, be ace, whatever we are. Additionally (& sadly this is still a thing in too many countries legally & in too many others illegally yet still not prosecuted justly) being openly queer got us killed. That's why we don't have as many elders as we know lived. To this day, there are so many queer ppl who are closeted because either society or the ppl in their world can't accept who they are & would often seek to harm or kill them for coming out. Her relationship with Diego was most certainly toxic & concerning, & while he was concerningly older than she, at the time women were often considerably younger than their husbands (still doesn't make it right but it is a societal fact that has to be considered upon evaluation). Her attraction to & adoration for Diego could certainly be attributed to a multitude of factors: transference of attention & love from her father to that of a father-figure; her insecurities about her illnesses & the condition she lived in as a result to the fact that regardless of her physical appearance or deformities, Diego saw beauty in her art; being attracted to Diego (& that of so many others), while it may seem odd given his personality & appearance, was one perhaps it could be said that many ppl were attracted to his charisma, his talent, & his impact in art & the world. All we know is that Frida, by her own admission, adored him. Some of it can be her youth vs his larger-than-life presence or his talent, for that isn't in dispute, but Frida was 15, not an infant. She certainly was traumatized but she was also a person who seemed to know herself well enough to know what she wanted out of life. Yes, there are huge red flags that she was groomed but it could have easily been that of a mentee falling in love with their mentor. We only know what we've been shown by them & those who knew them who thought it odd but that was all.

[@weronika7596]

Frida has always inspired me to be myself, unapologetically. Thank you for this video!

[@NY_Mountain_Man]

Just hearing about Frida's childhood reminds me why I'm a teacher. Wow. Like.. a boy threw a log at a kid and the parents were like, "Oh well. Boys will be boys." And the bullying from the other kids? Sigh... I'm glad there's a lot of people nowadays who are actively working behind the scenes to assure that there's no more bullying in the classroom.

[@portpiraya5758]

I really recommened the movie about her with Selma Hayek and Alfred Molina in the leading roles. It is a great movie that manages to make a serious movie about her and not being all that serious all the time, using humour as a method also to mediate the message of her art and personal life. The movie is named simply Frida. Saw it this summer, rented it from one of Swedens last movie rental-stores haha!

[@BlindDweller]

Oddly enough, I haven't actually watched Frida yet! Maybe I should before I finish Part 2 😆

[@j.elizabeth4621]

The commentary on the DVD is phenomenal!

[@CarolH2]

I too saw that movie, a year or two or three ago, I think. After this video series ends, I think I'll watch it again as I really loved that film❤

[@youllbemytourniquet]

@@j.elizabeth4621 I just saw the movie recently, but I'll have to check this out. Frida is such a fascinating person.

[@Eroxi3]

One of my all time favorite movies

[@wormperson]

its beautiful how many people can pick her soul off her canvas and cherish it. she is so dear to my heart.

[@monsieurlaguillotine3481]

No artist is a famous artist until they've died. And that's a fucking tragedy. You can be a brilliant painter, poet, or performance artist, but it doesn't mean a damned thing until you're feeding worms or ash in the breeze.

[@BCBrownBooks]

I'm not sure I totally agree with that assessment. Tons of artists were revered, even famous, during their lives as artists. But many many artists aren't recognized for their skill & vision until after their deaths. I feel it's more a 'now' thing though than historically. But I want to refine that statement a bit more. Historically, fewer ppl were artists because, typically, it was not a profession that one could support themselves with unless they were royal artists or from wealthy families, both of which did often win them notoriety in their time. But it's through the lens of hindsight that they become elevated to genuis after death. Perhaps it's because we don't really study ppl until after their deaths? I don't know that for certain. Just a feeling. On the flip side, the modern world has tons more ppl. Statistically, that presents that more ppl could be or are artists. And then there is our technology, whether it's the camera or the internet. Technology has allowed more artists to share their art & become known, yet it also floods the world with so much art that it, while still spectacularly skilled & executed, becomes overwhelming to remember the artists unless they become exceptionally outstanding or make a cultural dent (Warhol, Banksy, Kahlo, Rivera, etc) or shift the paradigm of art in some manner. But I'm also not saying you're wrong. Too many brilliant creatives are relegated to a footnote in history before their death & only "discovered" after it's too late to really show them how their art impacts the world.

[@ms.gretchencole1990]

No, no! Like the Stevie Wonder song says, the love of them they leave behind.

[@ms.gretchencole1990]

They are uninterrupted by fan mail requests and can get "it" out!

[@reigee2869]

Not true. Monet, De la Goya, and Dalí were all very well recognized during their life (just to name a few). Dalí was actually so pretentious about it, it made various people in the art world hate him (but it didn’t make his art any less sensational or make him any less of a celebrity).

[@nas8104]

I believe it’s close to psychology, with art being so close to the world around them from the eyes of the viewer, it’s like being in a war you don’t know how bad it is until afterwards

[@lydieluck7753]

As a creative person dealing with mental illness, Frida and her work has always fascinated me! It’s strange that now her face is plastered all over things commercially. I know Ulta did a line of Frida Kahlo makeup which seems strange to use her as a selling point considering she was a socialist lol.

[@redblackjester]

I love that you are contributing to more people knowing about the incredible story behind Frida Kahlo and her pain. Many know what she looks like but not many know of her story.

[@squirrelflowers]

I absolutely am in love with Kahlo and her works. I've been for a long time. The way most people don't know her story is still crazy to me.

[@Mashida_Killzzz]

Her ART is something else of Frida Kahlo I really like how she was before her time making, creating art that has true meaning!!

[@coreyburns8022]

You said it may be a while before part 2 drops. I hope it is sooner than later. Kahlo was such a fascinating person. I never tire of stories about her.

[@walnutpalette]

Her art is her autobiography. Frida's life was so difficult and painful. 😥💔

[@umpapaweiwei7352]

Damn. Guillermo’s first wife wasn’t even cold before he proposed to Fridas mother. 🥶

[@Friedfishstucktomypan]

Loved the video as usual it’s always a treat to dive deeper into the artists background and see how their life shaped them and their works!! Also I think both your long and short form content is good despite the changes in length etc!!

[@martaiswatchingyoutube5063]

as a woman and artist and sickly human being- I saw a documentary when I was 12- and was overwhelmed by the felt pain through and through. did before and will- very talented lady with a hard life.

[@peterlogan1264]

I went to see her exhibition in Auckland NZ last year and was greatly impressed. You documentary was great as it gave me some more insight to her life and work

[@ericdravenX00X]

Frida is an interesting individual with interesting works, and Pete also.. Thanks Mr.Dweller..

[@BreakingBadFan420]

I’ve just finished the series of your documentary on Kahlo’s life. You did an incredible job, even if you missed some interesting details. I personally think there are many artists in history that deserve as much, if not more both sympathy, and fame. She was undoubtedly a great artist, but as subjective as art is, I’m sure I’ve seen better. I’m sure a lot of people would agree.

[@KatLim7778]

I absolutely love Frida Kahlo. Thank you for this video.

[@andrewbellavie795]

Frida is the reason I always tell emerging artists to create from the heart. Her work is so personal and that is what gives it power. Also shoutout to Fulang Chang the pet monkey.

[@cynthiablandford6213]

Can't wait to see part 2.Fantastic video,thank you ❤

[@mallbratgirl_3005]

saving this to watch before bed, very excited

[@ceresalaa]

I didn't paint any tribute to her yet!! but really it's a very inspiring video.

[@bwaluvr7]

God I love your channel ! so well made, honestly my comfort channel < 33

[@cloudsaysthings]

Yessssss. I'm so excited for this!

[@GONZØ-d6h]

Thank you for making this 🙏🏼

[@MarzannaMorana]

I think she had beautiful childhood photos and her in that suit...😮 STUNNING. Her bus accident had to be the most poignantly expressive time for her work. And her relationship with Diego was proof LOVE IS BLIND. It was very paternal for her, but the toxicity overwhelming!

[@Kmanh-xf2jq]

That unibrow, that mustache... unforgettable...

[@kimcharles1874]

OH IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE

[@aliemariearjaans535]

Thanks for sharing your work with us.

[@MyDuckSaysFucc]

Living with chronic pain is a constant level of tolerable unhappiness. Sometimes, it’s intolerable.

[@blissfuldissonance]

Excellent depiction of Frida's life and work!

[@BCBrownBooks]

Thank you for another wonderful video (even if just in part right now) about my favorite artist. Frida was the inspiration behind me pursuing art after I became seriously ill & was left limited from constant pain & fatigue. I'd always loved her art, but then it just made sense to me to channel what I experience in this world into art since, while creating it certainly takes a toll, it is still something that I can do even when in so much pain I can't leave my bed or so exhausted I can barely raise my head. I simply thought, 'Frida could create glorious art that was powerful and moving while in even more pain and anguish than I experience, so I can too; not everything creative & beautiful is denied to me because I often can't leave my bed, much less home.' Frida taught me that lesson. I look forward to your next videos on her life & work. Remember to take care of yourself first, however, to balance work demands & the more pleasurable YT content demands.

[@darth-gerry6659]

I was born in mexico city very close to Coyoacan where Fridah lived. Her house is such a beautiful museum everyone should visit

[@arbitrarychaos3551]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE

[@WierdArtistMarcell]

I feel it's sad that despite doing art in college, and always being fascinated by art history, I had never heard about her before seson 2 of Clone High this year.

[@pingutune]

..... you've never heard of frida kahlo?

[@gloomy9100]

​@@pingutunehow like

[@WierdArtistMarcell]

@pilotheress nope. Might have been mentioned in history class in middleshool, but if so, I can't remember. But in college, where one of our art courses was art history, we did not learn about her.

[@WierdArtistMarcell]

@gloomy9100 Norwegian school system and its priorities.

[@pingutune]

@@WierdArtistMarcell ohhh, i see now thank you.

[@bryonhogg485]

Well thought out and researched . . .

[@sarahloomis2034]

Its strange to me how many of these commenters feel the need to pass moral and aesthetic judgement on Kahlo. Her life and works speak to some and not to others

[@end.olives]

Thats what comments are for: opnions. Its strange how you can read 50 people that agree with you and be bothered by that one that doesnt.

[@snailart14]

​@@end.olivesyou can have opinions but they should be fueled by something other than "well I just don't like that color" lol. I wouldn't hang any of her works in my room, but her story and life is interesting. And a lot of people who pass aesthetic judgement on her work (or most work) have never picked up a paint brush to begin with. It's fine to have opinions but I can have an opinion on your opinion.

[@DrBitchcraft.]

​@@snailart14that I absolutely agree. "I don't like that color, thats not technically good, blablabala. Yes useless comments like that are annoying.

[@CreativaArtly]

So excited for this series!!! 😮😮😮

[@stanelris7930]

great video ❤️ looking forward to any future frida videos

[@teebradley2078]

My favorite artist ❤❤

[@lisamurphy5663]

Thank you!!

[@annamossity8879]

Pete Conroy is amazing! And Frida, what more can be said about the incomparable Frida!

[@camargorafael420]

Very good video, Very well details, congratulations.

[@gingersnapcam7334]

The fact that she was referenced in Coco is crazy. But besides that, I am glad I looked into her. I've seen her all over

[@capuzzo63]

wow amazing work

[@Annatomova7]

I’m bisexual, have a slipped disc, which affects my spine, have issues with a parent (my mother), deal with chronic pain and mental illness, and I was molested at a very young age. I too, deal with a lot of insecurity over my body and appearance, and I love to draw. I’d consider myself gender non conforming, in the sense that even though I like to appear feminine, sometimes I do like to dress more androgynous or masculine and I’ve been told on numerous occasions that I talk or “express” myself similarly to men, lmao. Can’t say I relate to Frida Kahlo in the sense that she dealt with her issues very differently than I would have… for one, I’d never be with a disgusting misogynist like Diego Rivera. Even though my parents had problems, and got divorced, I strive to be different from them. I want a healthy relationship with my (future) partner. I wouldn’t consider myself all that “promiscuous” either. I just don’t have a preference between men and women, when it comes to my sexual orientation. My culture and heritage are a big part of me and influence my art a lot, as well!

[@rprp5244]

As an indigenous person and queer artist, my respect for her is complex and it is important to discuss her grief and trauma, but I would like to mention it's also important to discuss how she exploited, discarded and used her indigenous identity only for provocation while insisting it and her mother's heritage was beneath her. It's not completely her fault because the climate of Mexico at the time was big on indigenous erasure to make way for a "new caste of mestizo" which offered a lot of advantages to those who partook in paper genocide as proof of triumph of Spain's conquest and to help facilitate stripping away even more land during their colonization - so when we discuss Kahlo, let's talk about her role in that too. It doesn't have to undo her talent or suffering but we should feel comfortable discussing all sides of an artist's cultural impact. Joanna Garcia Cheran, an indigenous woman from Mexico, has a great article on this and Kahlo's impact on her culture.

[@ausrm001]

So let’s talk about Kahlos cultural impact as an artist ? Is it because she was in a privileged position to be a provocateur ? Kahlo was privileged to know that art and politics go together . She was privileged to understand the power of the image and It’s what makes her relevant today for the fact that she can now be discussed through the lens of indigenous epistemology and so Kahlo’s expression of her indigenaity is her rightful place just as it’s Cherans rightful place to have a voice about her indigenous identity

[@larifari12oder3]

I just found your channel and I think its really interesting what you do! Maybe you could also look into Gottfried Helnwein. He is an Austrian painter and had been off and on with the police in the 70s about his paintings. They have a lot to do with war, capitalism and comics (especially Mickey Mouse). He is a super interesting figure, maybe he fits into what you are searching for :) Also a funfact- he made a painting called "Boulevard of broken dreams" which was the name giving painting of the song by Green Day

[@olasylvia1]

Ok, what's with this censoring of life ? Who cut out the word about what her teacher did to her ? Is it youtube "authorities" ? Who are they to be censoring anything ? I can't stand this bs anymore. If she was abused , that has to be said out loud, not hidden. What other words are not allowed on youtube ??

[@snailart14]

It's just the algorithm, if it's talked about the video will get flagged and not shown.

[@olasylvia1]

@@snailart14 Well, that's my point exactly. What's that about? You can't say the truth on you tube ? If you were abused, you can't speak the truth about it? You can say "murder" for ex. but you can't say "rape"? How is that ok ?

[@hairlessgrizzly559]

@@olasylvia1 it's really not that deep

[@z3ke648]

wow she’s attractive

[@cloud9withme]

david rivera next or jose clemente orozco, jose chávez morado , olga costa…. love seeing my fellow mexican artists talked about

[@tundranone8366]

4:11 Would like to know what happened to Kahlo's poor half siblings.. convents can be truly nasty places.

[@matheuslima3369]

Amazing video! I'd like to see a video about the art of Gustav Doré. I'm absolutely sure that will be great!

[@NoahKaneYhen]

seeing frida kahlo always makes me remember my mother,she always would have something of frida kahlo even in her death te amo mamá espero que puedas descansar

[@transgenderbasketballplayer]

You kinda skipped over the fact that Diego was beating her the whole time.

[@Cat-tastrophee]

Pete Conroy's art is beautiful, and especially poignant when paired with Frida's story.

[@fioregiallo]

17:25 this is why i only suggested the mural

[@bealreadyhappy]

It’s often confusing that you keep changing how you refer to her! What age was she when she had the coach accident?

[@thepowerisyetunknown7710]

I absolutely abhor Diego Rivera so much, you have no idea

[@mikeluke7417]

I totally agree! What a predatory monster 👹 he was, vile, cruel and selfish 😮

[@Claudia-i7c3z]

A real woman. Nothing plastic or gross put into her body. I love you.

[@Ghostofthegallow]

I love Frida but I had to do a thousand word essay on one of her paintings. I forget the name but the one where she's contacted to her own heart by her twins heart. It was a nightmare to write about lmao

[@DiabolikalFollikles]

I abhorred the movie. Hollywood did her memory and legacy dirty. Glossed the hell over it. 🇲🇽

[@mikeluke7417]

Wonderful human who's only flaw was loving a selfish pig💔😭

[@blewskidoo2110]

Lol the Diego Rivera court still exists. Henry Ford saw what he actually commissioned and got mad and closed the court off. It’s still available to tour to this day.

[@ArtEquum-v6u]

ART EQUUM🌍🌎🌏

[@mayranoguera838]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@aaron_osborne]

I did a portrait of Frida to represent minorities so the video was a long time coming.

[@clarissamachado]

Thank you for your sensibility

[@morindahoelzle559]

I think Frida was more indigenous than led on. Of mixed blood, but with an indigenous heart.

[@melissasanford2051]

Those ahead of their time are rarely celebrated in their time

[@artbylee68]

This was another Amazing video. I know and Respect Frida Kahlo and her work. But it's the details that Blind Dweller gives us to make these videos make more sense. SUBSCRIBE you won't be disappointed . I'm not disappointed

[@BlindDweller]

Thanks so much Lee 🙏

[@mayranoguera838]

I don't really follow artist I just recently been looking at paintings and I heard a little bit here and there about their life but it does seem like it was very painful for her

[@corkycobon1481]

Frida was such a beautiful disaster on so many levels and so broken that I dont think God himself could have put her back together. For all of her inward look on herself, she just could not see the forest from the trees. Her family dynamic, all of the truly horrendous things that happened both physically and mentally, and the Mt. Everest sized mountain pain she lived with on the daily made some of the most surrealist art released at the time. I would put Frida up against Dali any day for a surrealist comparison as Frida's work, although surrealist, was also evocative and more meaning laden than Dali, in my opinion. Dali did surrealism, most times, because he could get the attention of many and feed his ego. Frida's surrealism was derived from a wholly different well as her life, from the jump, was completely surreal. Dali was more conservative in his life and his surrealism depicts this. Frida didnt have the same boundaries or if she did, she ignored them completely. Her surrealism is grounded in more pathos than any modern artist I have encountered. You can definitely track her life and what was going on with her by her art. The movie that starred Salma Hayek was excellent but I think glossed over a lot of things in her life that made her so complex. Frida is an intersting case study in villain/victim dichotomy.

[@Tremere]

I wonder to what extent her popularity among millennials would change if she wasn't a "girlboss anti-capitalism queer icon slayyyy"

[@wladimir4106]

based communist frida

[@lizardchosimbastedanko5195]

Aw you’re upset lady did this trigger your jiggers

[@mijiyoon5575]

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@limitlesscondition]

You slayed

[@traceywhyte2325]

Why did you have to mention or link in the lgbq stuff in this video. She didn’t have anything to do with that movement. I think she would roll in her grave to be linked to that ideology.

[@raccoonenjoyer01]

Dude you know that she also had female lovers in her life, right?😂

[@lgstar3363]

Most artists usually are celebrated after their deaths unfortunately A “Mexican” woman as an INDIGENOUS NATIVE NORTH AMERICAN, she was not of “Spanish” decent…

[@suesmith9665]

Make a good novel

[@lobotzindiegoantesnesslope6004]

Feel her pain

[@daopunk]

Average? Girrrrrrrl...

[@mathieuleader8601]

interesting to hear about the backstory of one of the new characters from Clone High

[@goopapa4758]

8:34 damn it, just let histoy be history. modern day politics don't translate to history. she probably just liked the way it looked

[@hairlessgrizzly559]

Modern day things do translate to history And the concept gender identity is nothing "modern" genius, that's obvious Plenty of men and women challenged traditional ideals in the past, but they either weren't given much attention, or were silenced for being different

[@goopapa4758]

@@hairlessgrizzly559 gender identity wasn’t a thing until recently. For hundreds of thousands of years, we had men, and we had women. Some challenges gender norms, sure, but there wasn’t such a thing as ‘gender identity’ - gender wasn’t even a term until the mid 20th century, genius. Modern politics are called that for a reason - they’re new, they didn’t exist in the past, nor should they be forced on it. By doing that you’re trying to reset history, Big Brother.

[@hairlessgrizzly559]

@@goopapa4758 actually, there is historical evidence of ancient societies, namely Native American tribes, using genders other than male and female So no, gender identity isn't a new thing At this point, you're just making shit up to be mad at, nothing new for homophobes lol

[@goopapa4758]

@@hairlessgrizzly559 sources? also, even if that is true, it's not true across ALL of history, so imposing other cultures onto other historical cultures is stupid. i mean dont get me wrong, i dont mind embracing other cultures, but rewriting others to fit your agenda, especially ones from the past, is flat out nonsense. btw you know you have no argument when you resort to namecalling. hOmOpHoBeS. never said or even indicated i had a problem with homosexuality

[@LifeInPink999]

I can feel the pain, in fact I can’t look for more than a minute at her paintings because seeing unibrows triggers my OCD. If I had an infinite amount of money I would have done anything possible to get at least one painting and convert that unibrow into a normal set of brows. I almost sure that this characteristic feature of her paintings were one of her methods to make a person feel uncomfortable.

[@orajoubert1242]

We all feel pain! It is what you do with it

[@queerulantin6431]

A queer icon

[@ivonnecolon8471]

An accident broke her back.

[@nachtgoblin]

well its a good documentary, but until today I am always wondering why most of modern artists or almost all of them have extreme sexual habits completely out of control. like as if this is needed for art to be produced. and if sex as a drug does not work it developes into drug abuse. an we have to adore all of this to a point that we have to respect this behaviour. life is miserable alot of times, but this selfdestorying manners should not be any kind of basic instrument for any form of art as it is nowadays

[@joel1550]

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[@richardtscott7489]

I studied her work in college. I could not look at it I don't want to feel her pain and I don't want her pain reverberating through my entire home I would never put her work up in my world artist supposed to be something beautiful and pleasing to the eye. Many people have lost their way. It's horrible what happened to her in her life she should have turned it into beauty. I understand if she was unable to do that but I would not want to be subjected to darkness 24 hours a day throughout my home 0:23

[@stella-vu8vh]

it is so heartbreaking you view this persons work as so bleak, because i personally think it's a very great example of the inverse of this, it's not bleak at all, it's beautiful, albeit clearly a window into how frida was doing during the period of the work being done. she had a lot of pain in her life but it's horribly reductive to view things in the manner you are. Art doesn't have to fit within your definition of what is and isn't beauty, which honestly sounds narrow minded as fuck since you think you are qualified to make such judgements... change how you view this dude! why do you think it's so bleak ?

[@richardtscott7489]

@@stella-vu8vh I'm speaking specifically of the work that expresses extreme pain I have complete respect for her as a human being I am aware of what she went through with her husband. But it all comes down to one sentence I guess. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One man's garbage is another man's treasure. I respect your views and I'm sure you will have it hanging in you're home. It just doesn't appeal to me

[@DrBitchcraft.]

​@richardtscott7489 you sound ridiculous. Art can convey EVERYTHING. negative, ugly, grotesque feelings included. She painted her pain and it helped her to cope.

[@richardtscott7489]

@@DrBitchcraft. Good convey that ridiculous garbage in your home not in my sanctuary

[@hairlessgrizzly559]

@@richardtscott7489 nobody is saying you have to like it, you just want to be different and seek attention If you really don't care, you wouldn't be insisting SO MUCH

[@gyanprakashraj4062]

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[@RegenerationOfficial]

no i just think we reached her level... the bar was build on sand in front of California

[@maddengirl5427]

Triazapam is not known as a date rape drug it is a benzodiazepine used commonly for anxiety . You're probably thinking of Rohypnol, which is the most common drug used as a date rape drug. Please do better research.

[@denisefuentes7905]

Yeah, that’s what a lot of morphine will inspire.